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Title: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: Amaze on January 29, 2011, 07:52:29 AM
Saw in the paper yesterday that Marty is shooting a movie next year called "The Irishman". And it will feature De Niro and Joe Pesci. There's also a rumor that Pacino and Harvey Keitel will star in it as well.
It's based on the story of the mob hitman Frank Sheerman who among other things was involved in the murder of Jimmy Hoffa.

That's all the info they had.
Title: Re: Scorsese To Direct Another Gangster Epic
Post by: dave jenkins on July 12, 2017, 07:38:06 PM
http://deadline.com/2017/07/joe-pesci-the-irishman-al-pacino-robert-de-niro-martin-scorsese-deal-1202126751/
Title: Re: Scorsese To Direct Another Gangster Epic
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on July 12, 2017, 08:03:16 PM
Wow, that took a long time. I'll watch it.
Title: Re: Scorsese To Direct Another Gangster Epic
Post by: dave jenkins on July 14, 2017, 11:51:03 AM
And the next one after, with Di C-3PO: http://variety.com/2017/film/news/martin-scorsese-development-killers-of-the-flower-moon-dante-ferretti-1202495680/
Title: Re: Scorsese To Direct Another Gangster Epic
Post by: titoli on August 01, 2017, 11:36:45 AM
I've just read the book. I'm curious to see how Scorsese will deal with the dark side of politics and the criminal ways the various unions worked. More than in his previous gangster movies here the equation: politicians=gangsters is quite apparent. The title of the book (I Heard You Paint Houses) are the very first words Hoffa spoke to the Irishman. The explanation of the Kennedy's assassination as a favour to Hoffa (and how it came to be that Ruby had to deal with Oswald), the murder of both Crazy Joe Gallo and Hoffa himself are given a quite credible explanation. Of course, can't wait for the movie.
Title: Re: Scorsese To Direct Another Gangster Epic
Post by: dave jenkins on February 25, 2019, 08:14:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfr44G1KJmc&feature=youtu.be

LMRIAO. (And I'm not Royal, not Irish, never been an empire).
Title: Re: Scorsese To Direct Another Gangster Epic
Post by: T.H. on February 25, 2019, 02:29:57 PM
They took the word "teaser" way too literally.
Title: Re: Scorsese To Direct Another Gangster Epic
Post by: moorman on February 25, 2019, 05:57:18 PM
That was a waste of a trailer... :-[
Title: Re: Scorsese To Direct Another Gangster Epic
Post by: cigar joe on February 26, 2019, 03:44:54 AM
That was a waste of a trailer... :-[

 ;D
Title: Re: Scorsese To Direct Another Gangster Epic
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 29, 2019, 10:53:59 AM
Scorsese and De Niro conversation at Tribeca the other day. I have not found any videos of it, just articles about it.

https://apnews.com/d07f7374825b4d7fa7000229ada13513

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/28/movies/martin-scorsese-robert-de-niro-leonardo-dicaprio.html

https://deadline.com/2019/04/robert-de-niro-martin-scorsese-the-irishman-tribeca-film-festival-1202603448/

https://variety.com/2019/film/news/martin-scorsese-robert-de-niro-tribeca-film-festival-1203199832/

Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 27, 2019, 11:05:01 AM
I changed the subject of this thread to the movie's title, so it'll be more easily searchable
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 27, 2019, 11:06:11 AM
The Irishman to get exclusive theatrical release for 4 weeks

https://apnews.com/0f7c7bc638aa4dc5a18623fa800c2c67
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: PowerRR on August 28, 2019, 03:57:13 AM
And a confirmed 210 minute runtime!
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: dave jenkins on August 28, 2019, 01:24:55 PM
And a confirmed 210 minute runtime!
So . . . this will be Marty's OUATIA.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: dave jenkins on August 30, 2019, 06:15:12 PM
The Irishman to get exclusive theatrical release for 4 weeks

https://apnews.com/0f7c7bc638aa4dc5a18623fa800c2c67
I checked this out to see when the film would play NYC theaters (since Drink and I are going on a date). I also came across this: https://www.indiewire.com/2019/08/the-irishman-release-date-netflix-theatrical-scorsese-1202168628/
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: titoli on October 04, 2019, 07:22:29 PM
Reading a review of the movie after it was presented at a NYC festival (it will also be presented here in a few days at the film festival) I learned that Scorsese had first planned to do a movie based on this:

(https://images.gr-assets.com/books/1442888492l/164760.jpg)

So I was curious and started to read as soon as it was delivered not intending to really finish it today, just to have a general idea of what it was about. And couldn't stop, had to read it at a sitting. If somebody else will read it will understand why Scorsese was intrigued by it , actually some of the events were probably inspired by some of his movies. I suspect though that he went for the true crime book in the end because the finale is too banal, you know it from dozens of other novels and movies. Still I think that it makes for a wonderful thriller and one of the best mafia novels you may happen to come by. 9/10
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 05, 2019, 06:27:33 PM
Interview at the NYFF with Scorsese, de Niro, Pacino, Pesci, and producers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e4-Ko2KyPko

I only watched the first few minutes; something is wrong with Pesci, not sure if he is hard of hearing or what; when the interviewer asks him a question, he needs to have someone repeat it for him, and then he gives like a one-word answer.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 07, 2019, 09:00:10 AM
The Irishman to Play Broadway's Belasco Theatre for a month, starting November 1

https://apnews.com/5e57afa8e3aa4fc3986877dcbb7f6e96

http://www.playbill.com/article/martin-scorseses-the-irishman-to-play-broadways-belasco-theatre

https://deadline.com/2019/10/netflix-the-irishman-broadway-belasco-theatre-martin-scorsese-al-pacino-1202753643/

Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: dave jenkins on October 07, 2019, 09:01:56 AM
Nov. 1 is a Friday, which I know is inconvenient for you. When would you like to go?
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 07, 2019, 09:56:34 AM
Nov. 1 is a Friday, which I know is inconvenient for you. When would you like to go?

I can go to any nighttime showing (around 8:00 p.m. or later) Sunday through Wednesday.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 16, 2019, 10:01:58 PM
Press conference with Scorsese, De Niro, Pacino, and producers https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMej9AXZT_A
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 23, 2019, 07:22:39 AM
Scorsese, Pacino, and De Niro on CBS Sunday Morning

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6SppMAglmEM
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: PowerRR on October 23, 2019, 10:58:01 AM
Got my ticket for Boston, December 16th 11AM!!! How bout you New Yorkers?
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 23, 2019, 02:14:19 PM
Got my ticket for Boston, December 16th 11AM!!! How bout you New Yorkers?

Did not book tickets yet.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: PowerRR on November 02, 2019, 10:21:17 AM
Okay New Yorkers... how is it?
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: dave jenkins on November 02, 2019, 11:23:29 AM
I might see it today. The wife is keen.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: PowerRR on November 02, 2019, 01:08:00 PM
I might see it today. The wife is keen.
i hope it’s a DJ 10. We usually disagree, except for Leone and Scorsese
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 02, 2019, 05:28:04 PM
I might see it today. The wife is keen.

DJ and I were supposed to see it together - he is cheating on me with his wife  ;D
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: Novecento on November 03, 2019, 04:27:05 AM
Scorsese, Pacino, and De Niro on CBS Sunday Morning

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6SppMAglmEM

Interesting comment at the 8:15 mark on the state of the industry.

Gonna be a Netflix viewing for me I think.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: dave jenkins on November 03, 2019, 06:33:43 AM
Sorry, Drink, Mrs. Jenkins just wouldn't wait. I told her I'd promised to go with you. She told me I had a difficult decision to make, and I'd better make the right choice, or there would be many cold nights in my future. I hope you'll understand.

I walked up to the Balasco box-office at 3pm to buy tickets for the 7pm show and had no trouble scoring Orchestra center seats 9 rows from the screen. I thought, huh, there must not be much demand. When I returned at 6:30 there was a line stretching down the block and a woman circulating telling everyone the show was a sell-out. One guy in line asked the woman if she could give a quick review. She said, "You kiddin'? It's Maaa-tee!" "That's the review?" "Yeah. Two words."

Inside there were people moving about with some kind of newspaper parody with the headline: "Where Is Hoffa?" Apparently these were available downstairs next to the concessions and toilets. I went down and the place was all promo'd up: there were 4 phony phone booths and two phony newspaper dispensers. You opened the dispensers and pulled out a copy of The Irishman Daily, an 8-page edition claiming to be from August 1, 1975. In addition to "articles" and "ads" that tied in to the events of the movie, but there were also what appears to be actual pieces from back in the day: a story that Billy Martin was coming to manage the Yankees, a notice that the MTA would be raising fares to 50 cents, an announcement that Springsteen's new album Born To Run would be released Aug. 25.  Good fun.

The phony phone booths were set up with a video screen. When you stepped into the booth and lifted the receiver you heard dialog from the film while images of the movie played. People were posing in the booths while their friends snapped pictures--losers, every one. On a table there were 5 different 2-sided lobby cards available to cadge. Hey, all this extra promo material and the tickets were the standard NYC $15!

I tapped my radiator (before a 3 and half hour movie, natch) and headed back to my seat. A good thing as there was no intermission. There were two trailers and then they got right into it. Three-and-a-half hours later we finally got to the opening credits. The lights came up and I turned to a red-eyed Mrs. Jenkins and said, "That was a loooooong film, eh?" She did not reply. We staggered out of the theater and found ourselves back on 44th and 6th Ave. It was only 4 blocks to Grand Central Terminal. There was an express waiting when we arrived. We were home before midnight, and we were exhausted.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 03, 2019, 07:12:07 AM
Sorry, Drink, Mrs. Jenkins just wouldn't wait. I told her I'd promised to go with you. She told me I had a difficult decision to make, and I'd better make the right choice, or there would be many cold nights in my future. I hope you'll understand.



No worries. Glad you had fun. Catch you next time  :)
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: noodles_leone on November 03, 2019, 08:22:46 AM
Sorry, Drink, Mrs. Jenkins just wouldn't wait. I told her I'd promised to go with you. She told me I had a difficult decision to make, and I'd better make the right choice, or there would be many cold nights in my future. I hope you'll understand.

I walked up to the Balasco box-office at 3pm to buy tickets for the 7pm show and had no trouble scoring Orchestra center seats 9 rows from the screen. I thought, huh, there must not be much demand. When I returned at 6:30 there was a line stretching down the block and a woman circulating telling everyone the show was a sell-out. One guy in line asked the woman if she could give a quick review. She said, "You kiddin'? It's Maaa-tee!" "That's the review?" "Yeah. Two words."

Inside there were people moving about with some kind of newspaper parody with the headline: "Where Is Hoffa?" Apparently these were available downstairs next to the concessions and toilets. I went down and the place was all promo'd up: there were 4 phony phone booths and two phony newspaper dispensers. You opened the dispensers and pulled out a copy of The Irishman Daily, an 8-page edition claiming to be from August 1, 1975. In addition to "articles" and "ads" that tied in to the events of the movie, but there were also what appears to be actual pieces from back in the day: a story that Billy Martin was coming to manage the Yankees, a notice that the MTA would be raising fares to 50 cents, an announcement that Springsteen's new album Born To Run would be released Aug. 25.  Good fun.

The phony phone booths were set up with a video screen. When you stepped into the booth and lifted the receiver you heard dialog from the film while images of the movie played. People were posing in the booths while their friends snapped pictures--losers, every one. On a table there were 5 different 2-sided lobby cards available to cadge. Hey, all this extra promo material and the tickets were the standard NYC $15!

I tapped my radiator (before a 3 and half hour movie, natch) and headed back to my seat. A good thing as there was no intermission. There were two trailers and then they got right into it. Three-and-a-half hours later we finally got to the opening credits. The lights came up and I turned to a red-eyed Mrs. Jenkins and said, "That was a loooooong film, eh?" She did not reply. We staggered out of the theater and found ourselves back on 44th and 6th Ave. It was only 4 blocks to Grand Central Terminal. There was an express waiting when we arrived. We were home before midnight, and we were exhausted.

RELEASE THE REVIEW.

There are no screenings in France for legal reasons. Only Netflix. Well, there was a single screening, with Marty himself (+Q&A) at the Cinematheque, but it was virtually impossible to book a seat if you aren't a member. So it will be a (long) Netflix evening for me.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: cigar joe on November 03, 2019, 08:39:16 AM
RELEASE THE REVIEW.

There are no screenings in France for legal reasons. Only Netflix. Well, there was a single screening, with Marty himself (+Q&A) at the Cinematheque, but it was virtually impossible to book a seat if you aren't a member. So it will be a (long) Netflix evening for me.

I probably wont be able to catch it either until after the 15th
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: titoli on November 04, 2019, 02:23:15 PM
As apparently nobody here has seen it, so far, it is up to me to review it as first. For those who, like me, have read the book, it adds little storywise. Actually one wonders why in the end Sheeran isn't shown as finally dictating his memoirs and so one could wonder how the book and the movie based on it came to be. The interminable finale is the weakest part of the movie, absolutely useless and boring.But the whole movie itself adds little to the fame of Scorsese's gangster movies: although it keeps you interested for a whole 3 hours it doesn't have the spectacularity of Goodfellas (or even Casino's) and the only cinematically original moment (as I expected) is the murder of Joey Gallo (the short Gallo episode is the one which really makes the movie go up the grade). The problem with the movie is the lack of the nihilistic approach of Goodfellas, which allowed the director to show original characters and scenes. Here both the story ad the direction are faultless but lacking that something more of the movies I quoted above. The choice of songs by Robertson doesn't help, by the way: they put you to sleep, mostly. Still I put this over Casino because it has no female subplot, thank God. 8/10   
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 05, 2019, 12:13:40 AM
Article about the fight between Netflix and major-theater owners over the exhibiting of The Irishman – it isn't being shown in major theaters because of a fight over how long the theaters would get exclusivity before Netflix began streaming it.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/netflix-theater-chains-feud-over-201132345.html
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: noodles_leone on November 30, 2019, 05:38:30 PM
As apparently nobody here has seen it, so far, it is up to me to review it as first. For those who, like me, have read the book, it adds little storywise. Actually one wonders why in the end Sheeran isn't shown as finally dictating his memoirs and so one could wonder how the book and the movie based on it came to be. The interminable finale is the weakest part of the movie, absolutely useless and boring.But the whole movie itself adds little to the fame of Scorsese's gangster movies: although it keeps you interested for a whole 3 hours it doesn't have the spectacularity of Goodfellas (or even Casino's) and the only cinematically original moment (as I expected) is the murder of Joey Gallo (the short Gallo episode is the one which really makes the movie go up the grade). The problem with the movie is the lack of the nihilistic approach of Goodfellas, which allowed the director to show original characters and scenes. Here both the story ad the direction are faultless but lacking that something more of the movies I quoted above. The choice of songs by Robertson doesn't help, by the way: they put you to sleep, mostly. Still I put this over Casino because it has no female subplot, thank God. 8/10

Pretty much every single word from this review is wrong, apart from the part about the music And the fact that the Gallo episode is indeed great.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 30, 2019, 10:21:13 PM
I saw the movie in a theater in Brooklyn.

This doesn't reach the level of any of Scorsese's other gangster films.

A lot of it feels inauthentic. Like de Niro's acting doesn't feel natural; it feels like a "performance." A good performance, but a performance nonetheless; this is not one of those acting jobs where the person just feels like he is the character. And those shoulder pads de Niro is wearing, making him look like a football player. Pacino, too, feels like a performance, not natural. And the hairpieces everyone is wearing, and the switching back and forth between the ages. This feels very much like it's "put on" rather than natural.

Some exceptions. Pesci is absolutely terrific in every way.

And (I assume everyone on this board has seen it, so I won't worry about spoiler alerts) in the prison scene at the end, Pesci is absolutely amazing. And Stephen Graham as Tony Pro is terrific, too.

The ending, with de Niro in the old-age home, being regretful, I suppose some might want to have scrapped; but for me, those scenes have the best acting by de Niro.

I agree with titoli that Sheeran should have been shown dictating his memoirs, making it clear that the movie is not taking a position on whether or not his "recollections" are accurate.


These were my impressions walking out of the theater.

I thought that maybe after watching the movie again, I may have a different opinion, that I'd get used to the things that bothered me. But I saw it again (on Netflix) and my opinion is the same.

Not a bad movie, but not as good as Mean Streets, Goodfellas, Casino, The Departed.

BTW, RE: the fish scene: https://heavy.com/entertainment/2019/11/chuckie-obrien-fish/



Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: noodles_leone on December 01, 2019, 03:48:17 AM
That final half an hour is obviously what the movie is about, I don’t understand how anybody would want to cut it out. I mean you either dislike the movie as a whole or like the ending. Any other opinion is inconsistent, absurd.
It’s like saying “I like OUATITW but did these aging gunslingers really have to die?”
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: Cusser on December 01, 2019, 08:11:08 AM
Mrs. Cusser and I watched this yesterday afternoon on NetFlix.  Pretty good, and DeNiro did a great job.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 01, 2019, 09:27:51 AM
This movie really is like Marty’s version of OUATIA.

Btw, has there ever been a main character in a gangster movie who was more meek than Frank Sheeran?
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: noodles_leone on December 01, 2019, 10:16:59 AM
This movie really is like Marty’s version of OUATIA.

Btw, has there ever been a main character in a gangster movie who was more meek than Frank Sheeran?

What's meek? Sweet?
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: titoli on December 01, 2019, 10:45:07 AM

A lot of it feels inauthentic. Like de Niro's acting doesn't feel natural; it feels like a "performance." A good performance, but a performance nonetheless; this is not one of those acting jobs where the person just feels like he is the character. And those shoulder pads de Niro is wearing, making him look like a football player. Pacino, too, feels like a performance, not natural. And the hairpieces everyone is wearing, and the switching back and forth between the ages. This feels very much like it's "put on" rather than natural.

Some exceptions. Pesci is absolutely terrific in every way.

And (I assume everyone on this board has seen it, so I won't worry about spoiler alerts) in the prison scene at the end, Pesci is absolutely amazing. And Stephen Graham as Tony Pro is terrific, too.

The ending, with de Niro in the old-age home, being regretful, I suppose some might want to have scrapped; but for me, those scenes have the best acting by de Niro.


The problem is that De Niro and Pacino have created iconic characters in other gangster movies. And iconic to the highest possible degree. So, though it's true that the characters they play here are different from those they played in the past (yeah, Sheeran is a "meek" killer, a family man, not a psychopath; and Hoffa is not even a gangster, strictu sensu  ) but still this is a gangster movie and so the problem lies in the fact that Scorsese can't resolve himself to  make completely  a different kind of movie from the ones done in the past or staying in the genre. I was afraid it might happen after reading the book but I was hoping he might come up with a different approach. Instead he clung to the book quite tightly and the result is inevitable. And sorry, but I can't see such a great Pesci performance: not even distantly comparable to the one in Goodfellas.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: dave jenkins on December 01, 2019, 01:34:07 PM
I agree with 100% of what Drink says. But here's the more amazing number: I'm with titoli for 90%, a personal best. Now watch him start retracting . . .  >:D
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 01, 2019, 02:19:47 PM
What's meek? Sweet?

As in the opposite of "forceful."
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 01, 2019, 02:24:56 PM
And sorry, but I can't see such a great Pesci performance: not even distantly comparable to the one in Goodfellas.

Pesci to me is terrific, feels completely natural, as opposed to de Niro.

And in that brief prison scene, when his teeth are gone, they're having the wine and bread, he is absolutely sublime.

I wouldn't mention Goodfellas here; it's a completely different character. There he as unhinged. Here he is more of a classic mafia head. But I think he is great here, too.

Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 01, 2019, 02:25:35 PM
BTW, I hope y'all caught the Taxi Driver reference, with the guns being laid out on the sheet  :)
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: titoli on December 01, 2019, 05:33:33 PM

And in that brief prison scene, when his teeth are gone, they're having the wine and bread, he is absolutely sublime.

"Mangia che cresci".

Quote
I wouldn't mention Goodfellas here; it's a completely different character. There he as unhinged. Here he is more of a classic mafia head. But I think he is great here, too.

Not as great as there, though.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: titoli on December 03, 2019, 01:46:10 PM
A good synthesis of parts of the flick, which also might explain how, actually, De Niro is shown giving the interview to Charles Brandt who wrote the book. I should rewatch the movie, though, as I'm not sure that the fact that De Niro is shown dictating his recollections to a writer is made clear.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJ-6hdYGJKs
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: noodles_leone on December 03, 2019, 04:46:21 PM
So I rewatched the opening 15min and I totally changed my mind. Once you know where it is going, everything makes sense. And rocks.

I could wath the whole thing all over tonight. I'm actually sad I cannot.

Pretty sure I'm gonna change my rating to a 10 when I see it again.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: titoli on December 04, 2019, 03:35:01 PM
Funny about De Niro and about "the fish".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sLUUTlWunY
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: cigar joe on December 04, 2019, 06:45:11 PM
Funny about De Niro and about "the fish".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sLUUTlWunY

I couldn't listen to that shit past the greatest president remark.  ::)
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: titoli on December 04, 2019, 09:19:36 PM
I couldn't listen to that shit past the greatest president remark.  ::)

I couldn't care less.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: cigar joe on December 05, 2019, 11:19:43 AM
I couldn't care less.

I wish I couldn't care less.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: noodles_leone on December 05, 2019, 12:05:02 PM
This has to be one of the most pathetic videos on YouTube though. And I’ve seen my fair share of pathectic videos on YouTube.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: LITTLE BIG MAN on December 05, 2019, 04:12:24 PM
How To Watch The Irishman As A Mini - Series

Episode 1: I Heard You Paint Houses
Watch from start to 49:00
Stop when Jimmy Hoffa ends call

Episode 2: Hoffa
49:00 - 1:40:00
Stop when Joey The Blond is introduced

Episode 3: What Kind Of Fish
1:40:00 - 2:47:30
Stop when Frank exits the house

Episode 4: It Is What It Is
Watch from 2:47:30 - till the end 😉

Winner of Best Film National Board Of Review & New York Film Critics
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: noodles_leone on December 06, 2019, 09:00:44 AM
If you have to cut it in parts it's the way to do it, but please watch it all at once or you won't experience the whole power of the thing.
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 06, 2019, 11:19:06 AM
If you have to cut it in parts it's the way to do it, but please watch it all at once or you won't experience the whole power of the thing.

I watched it straight in theater, but did have to run out in middle for a minute to take a piss. They should have had an intermission.

Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: cigar joe on December 06, 2019, 05:33:19 PM
I watched it straight in theater, but did have to run out in middle for a minute to take a piss. They should have had an intermission.

Only once? What about a popcorn run?
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 16, 2019, 04:17:36 PM
Some good YouTube links (yes, I have watched all of these, in their entirety)

The Look of The Irishman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0NRAgEoBp8

The Irishman Cinematography Featurette by Rodrigo Prieto

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGlB3G8-pxc

Scorsese on Jimmy Kimmel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N80s8hBLaJM

Scorsese with Peter Travers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opqCW-rAnE4

Stephen Graham on Filming THAT Scene With Pacino And De Niro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBx4pezGXHg
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: noodles_leone on December 16, 2019, 04:27:47 PM
Ha, I've seen all of them.

Aaaand the screenplay: https://pmcdeadline2.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/the-irishman-ampas-script.pdf
Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: T.H. on December 25, 2019, 11:28:05 AM
That final half an hour is obviously what the movie is about, I don’t understand how anybody would want to cut it out. I mean you either dislike the movie as a whole or like the ending. Any other opinion is inconsistent, absurd.
It’s like saying “I like OUATITW but did these aging gunslingers really have to die?”
100% passionately disagree with this. OUATITW doesn't painstakingly dive into the minutiae of being elderly and facing mortality. The last half hour was incredibly inefficient storytelling and shows 10 examples of being elderly when one could have made a much bigger impact. It would be like the last 25 mins of OUATIA featuring an elderly Noodles getting stuck on the toilet, forgetting his address and not being able to open a jar. We. Get. It.

The movie as a whole is messy. The anti-aging CGI was just absolutely terrible ("young" DeNiro looks a DeNiro impersonator - not a young one) and it's ironic that Happy Meal Marvel did a hell of a better job with this technique in that Ant Fart movie. There's way too much exposition introducing too many characters and this doesn't have the storytelling grace of a Casino (Goodfellas is a perfect movie and not fair to use as a comparison) that seamlessly weaves through all the exposition introducing plotlines and new faces in a very natural way.

This is like if Goodfellas and OUATIA had a baby but the baby came out like the CGI gone wrong de-aged Deniro. This movie certainly has value (and would have more if the score was replaced with more era specific popular music), but I don't know if I would revisit this any time soon, possibly if ever. B


Title: Re: The Irishman (2019)
Post by: noodles_leone on December 27, 2019, 04:47:11 PM
It may seem like a mess on a first viewing, a second watch shows it isn’t. It is flawed though (and not only in the deaging department) but it’s still one of the most powerful films I’ve ever seen (and is in my top 10 movies of the 2010’s). I’ll watch it once a year for the next decade.