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Title: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 02, 2011, 09:41:45 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0039689/


Just saw Out of the Past (1947) on TCM. 10/10


An incredible noir.

the writing, the one-liners, the cinematography, etc. etc. etc. all amazing. Fantastic performances all around.

cast (Courtesy of imdb)


Robert Mitchum    ...   Jeff
    Jane Greer    ...   Kathie
    Kirk Douglas    ...   Whit
    Rhonda Fleming    ...   Meta Carson
    Richard Webb    ...   Jim
    Steve Brodie    ...   Fisher
    Virginia Huston    ...   Ann
    Paul Valentine    ...   Joe
    Dickie Moore    ...   The Kid
    Ken Niles    ...   Eels


This is one of those movies that just makes you so happy while you're watching it. One of those movies that makes you so happy to be a lover of cinema. One of those movies that almost makes you want to hug yourself. I'll stop before this gets any creepier, but this is THAT good.

The dialogue is spectacular, and Mitchum and Douglas et al. deliver the lines so incredibly well.


in other words, if you haven't yet, WATCH THIS MOVIE!!!  O0 O0 O0





Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: Groggy on November 06, 2011, 09:16:01 AM
I remember not being a fan but it's been years since I watched it. Maybe a rewatch would improve it.


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: dave jenkins on November 06, 2011, 09:25:21 AM
I remember not being a fan but it's been years since I watched it. Maybe a rewatch would improve it.
No, a rewatch would improve YOU.


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: Groggy on November 06, 2011, 09:27:38 AM
Zen master Jenkins.


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on January 19, 2014, 03:08:09 AM
I just saw the movie for the 3rd time (DVD).... one of my favorite noirs.... terrific actors, terrific (and pretty) actresses. Jane Greer here is one of the greatest of all femmes fatale, Rhonda Fleming and Virginia Huston are also good, as is Robert Mitchum and Kirk Douglas. Paul Valentine does a good job in a supporting role.... This movie has everything you'd want in a great noir  :) :) :) :)


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: Groggy on January 19, 2014, 08:10:04 AM
No, a rewatch would improve YOU.

Your koan contains the wisdom of that great philosopher Yakov Smirnoff. What a country!


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 18, 2014, 04:53:13 PM
Warner Archive Collection released OOTP on BRD.

We've been discussing it in the Film Noir Discussion Thread, but it should be discussed here.

Just to confirm: the Warner Archive Collection, that's when they release stuff on DV-R on demand? or in this case, BRD-R on demand (is there such a thing?) It's not an "officially pressed" disc?
is the quality of these discs any worse than an officially pressed BRD?



Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: dave jenkins on August 18, 2014, 05:13:36 PM
Warner Archive Collection released OOTP on BRD.

We've been discussing it in the Film Noir Discussion Thread, but it should be discussed here.

Just to confirm: the Warner Archive Collection, that's when they release stuff on DV-R on demand? or in this case, BRD-R on demand (is there such a thing?)
No, there isn't. A Blu-ray disc is always pressed. There is no difference in terms of the physical media between a WAC and any other commercially vended disc.



Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 19, 2014, 05:37:43 AM
No, there isn't. A Blu-ray disc is always pressed. There is no difference in terms of the physical media between a WAC and any other commercially vended disc.



but isn't that the whole point of the Warner Archive Collection, that it's manufactured-on-demand, for titles from the back end of the catalogue that may not generate such wide interest so they don't wanna risk pre-pressing a bunch of discs that may not get sold? if that's how it is for the DVD's on the WAC, then what's the difference with BRD's? If they issue a regular pressing, then why is it considered part of WAC?

(i mentioned before how OOTP doesn't seem to have nearly the fame that other great noirs have  - even more so if they are only releasing it through WAC!)


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: dave jenkins on August 19, 2014, 05:00:24 PM
but isn't that the whole point of the Warner Archive Collection, that it's manufactured-on-demand, for titles from the back end of the catalogue that may not generate such wide interest so they don't wanna risk pre-pressing a bunch of discs that may not get sold? if that's how it is for the DVD's on the WAC, then what's the difference with BRD's? If they issue a regular pressing, then why is it considered part of WAC?

You'll have to ask Warner about why they're putting non-MOD discs in their MOD program. But that's what they're doing. I'm not sure, but they may even have pressed DVDs (in some cases) in the WAC.


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 19, 2014, 06:29:21 PM
You'll have to ask Warner about why they're putting non-MOD discs in their MOD program. But that's what they're doing. I'm not sure, but they may even have pressed DVDs (in some cases) in the WAC.

I just looked again at blu-ray.com, and read the first paragraph of the review you linked to earlier; perhaps the answer is there:

Many posters on the Blu-ray.com forum have complained about the slow startup of the Warner Archive Collection's Blu-ray program and the high cost of its releases, relative to most catalog titles from Warner Home Video. But Out of the Past should be Exhibit A for the truth of the adage that you get what you pay for. If WHV had released this 97-minute black-and-white film with its windowbox bars and minimal extras, the feature would have been compressed onto a BD-25 with a low bitrate in order to shave every possible penny off the budget against the likelihood of retailers discounting the disc to $7 and under. Since WAC doesn't operate under those constraints, it was free to place Out of the Past on a BD-50 with an average bitrate of 34.57 Mbps, which is unheard-of at WHV. It looks gorgeous.

I'll provide the link here again because you posted it in the FNDT thread http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Out-of-the-Past-Blu-ray/56288/

I guess I was confused because looking at Amazon Marketplace, some sellers wrote "this is a MOD DVD-R ... " but I guess they just automatically write that every time there is something from WAC, and didn't actually check in each case to see that it really is a MOD DVD-R


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 20, 2014, 03:59:52 AM
Amazon just dropped the price of the BRD to $16.49. Glad I didn't make the purchase yet. With Amazon, waiting almost never hurts ...  ;)


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: dave jenkins on August 20, 2014, 01:26:44 PM
Ordered!


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 20, 2014, 05:45:10 PM
I still haven't seen anyone comparing the BRD to the DVD. I already have the DVD; for a black-and-white movie in which (as I recall) the DVD is pretty good quality, and the BRD doesn't offer any new bonus features, is there really any particular reason to get the BRD? I don't think I will, until I see some reviewer say that the BRD is clearly an upgrade


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 20, 2014, 11:30:42 PM
Your koan contains the wisdom of that great philosopher Yakov Smirnoff. What a country!

according to wikipedia (where people voluntarily consume lies - what a country!) Smirnoff was not the inventor of and rarely told jokes involving the Russian reversal http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakov_Smirnoff#Russian_reversal


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 26, 2015, 12:02:51 AM
I recently watched the DVD of Out of the Past on a friend's laptop, and the movie looked like it had sort of a blue tinge to it. Then I brought it back home, stuck it into my blu-ray player and turned on the TV, and it looked normal. So, her laptop must have been causing the movie to have that slight blue tinge; something to bear in mind when talking about image quality and screencaps the system you watch it on has a large effect, too; the way a movie looks on Beaver's screencaps isn't necessarily the way it'll look when you watch it.  ;)



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Anyway, I ordered the BRD of Out of the Past a little while ago, but just watched it now for the first time I didn't watch the whole movie (cuz as I mentioned above, I watched it on DVD not long ago), but I just skipped around a few minutes here and there just to see the image quality. And I've gotta say I am very happy with it. The DVD, while not bad, certainly has plenty of speckles/damage marks, but the BRD really looks cleaned up. It is a noticeable improvement.  O0


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 05, 2017, 01:55:05 AM
Out of the Past was this week's selection on TCM Noir Alley.

For his introduction/afterword, host Eddie Muller was joined by Robert Mitchum's son Christopher.

Intro: https://youtu.be/TD6tqarSYM8

Outro: https://youtu.be/26PXGS2kq10



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Looking around on YouTube, I found videos of Robert Osborne's introduction/afterword from a TCM screening of this movie in 2014. This screening was part of a salute to Rhonda Fleming, so his comments have an emphasis on Fleming. (BTW, Osborne has called this movie his favorite film noir.)

intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em8p9MHoOlQ

outro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFKChtigdk

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for the English nerds:

are you ok with the word "outro"? I don't like it.

I used to use the words "introduction" and "closing comments," but "closing comments" is kind of unwieldy; I needed one word. I was thinking of using "afterword," though that is generally for a book; I am not sure if it's correct to use for a video.

Then I saw some TCM users using "outro." I've never liked that word. I first heard it about 15 years ago, by a classmate of mine in a rock band. Many great rock songs have a great opening guitar piece, before the vocals begin, known as the "intro." My friend used to refer to the guitar piece that closes a song as the "outro"; that's the first time I heard that word (I see online that the word has been in use since the 70's.)

Well, "intro" is, of course, short for "introduction." So I guess the opposite of "in" is "out," so the opposite of "intro" is "outro," even though nobody ever says "outroduction"  ^-^ I never felt comfortable with the word "outro." I definitely can't use "closing comments"; I need one word. I am not sure if "afterword" is too literary. "Outro" sounds kinda like crappy slang. Waddaya say? I have to go with either "intro" or "afterword," or find another word ... Or I can avoid this problem altogether by refraining from posting videos ;)


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on June 05, 2017, 09:49:11 AM
Outro is fine. You need something short and catchy, closing comments is too long. Titles should be short.

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Or I can avoid this problem altogether by refraining from posting videos

No.


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: dave jenkins on June 05, 2017, 01:01:19 PM
for the English nerds:

are you ok with the word "outro"? I don't like it.

I used to use the words "introduction" and "closing comments," but "closing comments" is kind of unwieldy; I needed one word. I was thinking of using "afterword," though that is generally for a book; I am not sure if it's correct to use for a video.

Then I saw some TCM users using "outro." I've never liked that word. I first heard it about 15 years ago, by a classmate of mine in a rock band. Many great rock songs have a great opening guitar piece, before the vocals begin, known as the "intro." My friend used to refer to the guitar piece that closes a song as the "outro"; that's the first time I heard that word (I see online that the word has been in use since the 70's.)
And I've been into rock since the 70s, so I'm perfectly comfortable with "outro". It was probably the music of Jethro Tull that first introduced me to it. I think it's fine and can be used for things other than songs.

The one thing that annoys me more than anything else is a greenhorn who shows up on the scene and starts complaining about things that were established long before he was born. "I don't like this, I don't like that." Bock, bock, bock, bock, bock. Go lay an egg!


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on June 05, 2017, 01:56:54 PM

The one thing that annoys me more than anything else is a greenhorn who shows up on the scene and starts complaining about things that were established long before he was born. "I don't like this, I don't like that." Bock, bock, bock, bock, bock. Go lay an egg!

And who are you talking about now?


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 05, 2017, 02:16:02 PM
And who are you talking about now?

Don't even give dj the satisfaction of responding to his crankiness.


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: dave jenkins on June 05, 2017, 05:19:24 PM
I was responding to Dipshit & Destroy, so I intended my comment be directed to him. Now that's he had a chance to pause for breath, perhaps he can regale us all with his antipathy for Barbara Stanwyck. ONE. MORE. TIME!


Title: Re: Out of the Past (1947)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 05, 2017, 09:09:39 PM
perhaps he can regale us all with his antipathy for Barbara Stanwyck. ONE. MORE. TIME!


So THAT's what this is all about: I said some nasty comments about DJ's ass-ugly movie crush  :'(  I won't even defile the Out of the Past thread by saying her name. This thread is only for hot babes, like Jane Greer and Rhonda Fleming  >:D