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Films of Sergio Leone => For a Few Dollars More => Topic started by: Dirty Rat on November 04, 2011, 04:15:33 PM



Title: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: Dirty Rat on November 04, 2011, 04:15:33 PM
Something else that I have always wondered........
What exactly is it that makes the train passenger and conductor stop mid conversation whilst addressing Colonel Mortimer upon seeing the full frontal view of him? Is it because they realise that he is a man 'of the cloth'?
That's what I have always thought. If so, what exactly is it? He isn't wearing a dog collar or anything.....?


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: Jordan Krug on November 04, 2011, 04:40:19 PM
Maybe just the look on his face or the way he's staring at them?


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: Huey on November 14, 2011, 12:05:34 PM
I thought the passenger called him "reverend" or something because he was reading a bible and then stopped talking because he realised Mortimer is a dangerous customer. He had the same effect on the conductor but not, until he grabbed him by the scruff of the neck, on the bartender.


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: Dirty Rat on November 14, 2011, 12:09:11 PM
Yeah, it's certainly interesting and I'd like to hear more people's views.......


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: t-bone on February 19, 2012, 05:55:11 AM
I think it's because when Mortimer turns to face him, he kinda puts his right hand on his hip, near his gun...expressing that there's really no need for further discussion.


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: El_Chuncho on February 19, 2012, 06:45:58 AM
It's because he exudes class and influence.
Everything from his black steed, to his age, posture and his impeccably elegant clothes mark him as a man of means.
You can see the sudden change in the conductor's attitude toward him as he checks out the Colonel's fine threads and obvious status.
I always felt it was more the sight of his silver waistcoat and gold watch-fob than his pistol that compels the conductor to cease calling him "mister" and address him instead as "sir": It's not fear that brings that change, but respect.


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 19, 2012, 02:29:00 PM
I'm pretty sure the conductor change his demeanor when he sees Mortimer's gun


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: Dirty Rat on February 20, 2012, 06:37:49 AM
I have never noticed the hand on the hip thing but am starting to lean towards what El_Chunho is saying.
The same thing happens to me when I'm on the bus.....


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: El_Chuncho on February 20, 2012, 12:13:57 PM
I have never noticed the hand on the hip thing but am starting to lean towards what El_Chunho is saying.
The same thing happens to me when I'm on the bus.....


 ;D nice one DR...you'd be useful on the 82X...


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: emmo26 on April 29, 2012, 06:40:09 AM
Herman Reynoso is that uncredited train passenger...

He also plays that pervy mormon leader guy in The Big Gundown.


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: Rudra on July 02, 2012, 10:55:22 PM
"This train will stop at Tucumcari!". Mortimer pulls the emergency cord, bringing train to a complete halt. The train conductor gets down and asks the locomotive crew for the reason of unscheduled stop. Suddenly the freight carriage door opens and Mortimer walks out with his horse, down the ramp. So:

1. How did Mortimer get to the freight wagon before the train come to a complete stop? Not that the passenger and freight carriage were inter-connected?

2. Assuming, that he did get to the freight wagon, so he got to door, opened it, closed it, took reigns of his horse and then opened the door again, too much of a work eh?



Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: cigar joe on July 03, 2012, 04:18:22 AM
1. Well it took a little while for the brakemen to turn all the breaks on the train. Leone shows just one sequence on one car, so conceivably it could have taken a few minutes. No air brakes yet on that train.

2. Well again it is Leone playing with time. ;-)


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: Cusser on July 03, 2012, 07:28:22 AM
And what a coincidence that the stable car door was perfectly aligned with the ramp after the panic stop !!!  And that the horse already had his bridle and saddle on, that's not what's done.  And you don't tie up a horse with the reins either, like they always do in westerns.  And typically the saddle and bridle come off when not riding.

Mrs. Cusser has a horse, and so does oldest daughter.  No need to ask why I drive a 1988 truck and a 1971 VW convertible....


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: Groggy on July 03, 2012, 09:45:24 AM
Something else that I have always wondered........
What exactly is it that makes the train passenger and conductor stop mid conversation whilst addressing Colonel Mortimer upon seeing the full frontal view of him? Is it because they realise that he is a man 'of the cloth'?
That's what I have always thought. If so, what exactly is it? He isn't wearing a dog collar or anything.....?

If Lee Van Cleef sneered impatiently at you how would you feel?


Title: Re: The Colonel Mortimer affect
Post by: Senza on February 24, 2013, 01:51:42 AM
I think it's more "The Lee Van Cleef Stare Effect", SL himself said his eyes makes holes in the screen.