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Title: List your SWs
Post by: redyred on July 01, 2004, 04:41:59 AM
My aim in movie buying at the moment to get hold of copies of all the "essential" spaghetti westerns. Question is, which ones are essential? I've currently got (other than the Leones, of course):

Django
Death Rides A Horse
Keoma
Bullet for the General
Companeros
Professional Gun
Texas Addio
Sabata
Django il Bastardo
La Resa dei Conti (hopefully in the post)

I'm on the lookout for:

Face to Face
Django Kill
My Name is Nobody
A Man Called Blade

Can anyone think of any others I should go for? I'm not really interested in the trinity films.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Nobody on July 01, 2004, 06:17:08 AM
The Great Silence
Run Man Run


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: DJIMBO on July 01, 2004, 06:56:39 AM
If ur not interested in Trinity films then id think twice about My Name is Nobody its basically like that with some serious moments - an ok film.

Definitely The Great Silence and poss Sartana.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: El Bon on July 01, 2004, 03:29:43 PM
Also try Requiescant  Keoma  Mannaja and Navajo Joe


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: redyred on July 02, 2004, 08:41:25 AM
Yeah I forgot to add Great Silence and Navajo Joe to my list of ones I'm looking out for. I'm mainly interested in My Name is Nobody for the Leone involvement. Run Man Run I will probably get after seeing La Resa.

I was absolutely stunned by Keoma which I watched for the first time last night - possibly my favourite non-Leone. It almost made me forget I was at work.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: cigar joe on July 02, 2004, 03:11:59 PM
No Kidding I hope I get mine back from Anchor Bay soon.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: mortimer on July 03, 2004, 02:01:18 AM
From the ones on your list. I'd rank the ones I have seen:

The Great Silence
The Big Gundown (only seen full screen, a crime)
Death Rides a Horse (only seen full screen, same as above)
Bullett for the General
Run Man Run
Sabata (full screen)
Keoma


A couple others I have seen

A Minute to Pray  A Second to Die (good)
Four of the Apocolypse (decent)
A Reason to Live A Reason to Die (decent)
Adios Sabata (decent)
A Man Called Sledge (decent)
The Texican (fair)
The 2 Trinity DVDs with Hill and Spencer (Bad but funny)

I have Django, Django Kill, Companeros, and Mannaja dvds on the way. :)

Wont be happy until they are all on widescreen dvd







Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: grandpa_chum on July 04, 2004, 03:27:32 PM
keoma
a bullet for the general(quien sabe)
Companeros
Death rides a horse
django
my name is nobody
and of course the 5 leone westerns...

are all essentials IMO... other than those i haven't found any other spaghetti westerns i've liked too much... four of the apocolypse, texas adios, above the law, and django kill are ok, but not worth the buy imo... specially since they are rare and will cost some dough.

all of you probably already know this but if you like leone you'll like john ford even though he makes american westerns there good ones, and i don't like american westerns for the most part.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: grandpa_chum on July 04, 2004, 03:34:24 PM
oh yeah, how could i forget jonathan of the bears... made by the same team of director enzo castellari and franco nero as in keoma... considered the keoma sequal... although i don't know why... same reason the dollars trilogy is called the dollars trilogy i assume.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Half Soldier on July 04, 2004, 05:06:44 PM
The Angry Gun is a good 'un :)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: rddesq on July 18, 2004, 02:45:59 PM
There is a list of the Top 20 Non-Leone Spag. Westerns on the Spaghetti Western Website which is in the links section of this site.  That is the list I have used as my guide.  Except for the rating of Django and Django Kill in the top 10 the list is pretty accurate as far as my tastes.  It rates The Big Gundown number 1.  Keomo is very good too.  


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: HEX on September 22, 2005, 09:35:09 PM
no one eveR mentions BLINDMAN

GREAT SW


Title: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 15, 2005, 10:43:43 AM
i will give a list of my entire collection of NON-LEONE spags.
some are taped 1 or 2 are bootlegs but most are dvds.
i will have a percentage on how good it is. 1% being the lowest and 100% being the highest.


THE GREAT SILENCE-100%
RUN MAN RUN-80%
MANNAJA-80%
DJANGO KILL-60%
DJANGO-90%
DAY OF ANGER-90%
ACE HIGH-55%
DEATH RIDES A HORSE-90%
THE BIG GUNDOWN-95%
COMPANEROS-95%
THE MERCENARY-100%
BLINDMAN(uncut)-80%
A STRANGER IN TOWN-75%
THE STRANGER RETURNS-79%
GOD'S GUN-40%
SARTANA IS COMING TRADE YOURE PISTOL FOR A COFFIN-70%(A FISTFUL OF LEAD)
DJANGO THE BASTARD-80%
TEXAS ADDIO-85%
FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE-70%
KEOMA-90%
MY NAME IS NOBODY-95%
NAVAJO JOE-89%
LIGHT THE FUSE...SARTANA IS COMING-90%
SABATA-85%
RETURN OF SABATA-45%
ADIOS SABATA-60%
A BULLET FOR THE GENERAL-75%(wonderful ending. i am surprised this ending hasnt been in discussion on this board. it is definatly worth some talking about)
THOSE DIRTY DOGS-85%
A PISTOL FOR RINGO-80%
THE RETURN OF RINGO-83%
THE PRICE OF POWER-70%
THE STRANGER AND THE GUNFIGHTER-70%
KID VENGEANCE-5%
VIVA DJANGO-80%
A BULLET FOR SANDOVAL-75%
DJANGO STRIKES AGAIN(if u consider it a sw)-60%
HELLBENDERS-80%
MASSACRE TIME-60%
THE BOUNTY KILLERS-65%
BEYOND THE LAW(UNCUT)-60%
THEY CALL ME TRINITY-80%
TRINITY IS STILL MY NAME-30%
BOOT HILL-10%
THE GRAND DUEL-89%
JOHNATHAN OF THE BEARS-85%
CRY BLOOD APACHE(10%)



the rest are on there way
as we speak...



W DJANGO
THE BEAST( a little known KLAUS KINSKI sw.)
CEMETARY WITHOUT CROSSES


can u guys do the same. i think this is a great way to find stuff we havent seen.

and give a grade like i did.

also i need some help in finding A NAME THAT CRIED REVENGE. there is a vhs floating around somewhere. and i believe it is only in german.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: grandpa_chum on November 15, 2005, 09:18:23 PM
Obviously I have all 6 of Leone's better known films on dvd... so non-leone spaghettis here we go...(btw, these percentages are percentages I give to EVERY film I see, so they are relative to all my favorite movies, and I love spaghetti's so they might be a little on the higher side)

99% Keoma(1976)
97% L'Ultimo Pistolero(2002)short film that comes on minidisc with django dvd
95% The Great Silence(1968)
95% Companeros(1970)
95% Mannaja: A Man Called Blade(1977)
95% Death Rides A Horse(1968)
95% Django(1966)
88% Day Of Anger(1968)
88% Run Man Run(1968)
84% Quien Sabe?(aka a bullet for the general)(1976)
78% Texas Adios(1966)
76% Four Of The Apocalypse(1975)
(haven't watched)% Above The Law(1968)


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 15, 2005, 09:29:25 PM
Obviously I have all 6 of Leone's better known films on dvd... so non-leone spaghettis here we go...(btw, these percentages are percentages I give to EVERY film I see, so they are relative to all my favorite movies, and I love spaghetti's so they might be a little on the higher side)

99% Keoma(1976)
97% L'Ultimo Pistolero(2002)short film that comes on minidisc with django dvd
95% The Great Silence(1968)
95% Companeros(1970)
95% Mannaja: A Man Called Blade(1977)
95% Death Rides A Horse(1968)
95% Django(1966)
88% Day Of Anger(1968)
88% Run Man Run(1968)
84% Quien Sabe?(aka a bullet for the general)(1976)
78% Texas Adios(1966)
76% Four Of The Apocalypse(1975)


wow quite a strange but interesting list u have there.
i dont think i have ever seen nor ever will see KEOMA as the best sw on some ones list. this is quite a moment to be treasured. also THE LAST PISTOLERO(short film) better then THE GREAT SILENCE? and most of the sw's u have up there to boot! :o

well i am glad that was different. i thought i was just going to get a rehash of pretty much what i wrote down.

thanks GRANPA. ;)


also i was not going to count it because i pretty much forgot about it. but...

the short film THE LAST GUNSLINGER(IL ULTIMO PISTOLERO) will have to get a 70% from me. but that is on a totally different category.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 16, 2005, 06:42:28 AM
Hex,i see you have changed your opinions and now rate Adios Sabata(60%) above Return of Sabata(45%) and Gods Gun(40%)!!!!!!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 16, 2005, 07:59:14 AM
Hex,i see you have changed your opinions and now rate Adios Sabata(60%) above Return of Sabata(45%) and Gods Gun(40%)!!!!!!

lol
i got caught.

yes indeed i saw ADIOS SABATA last night for a second viewing. i liked it a bit more this time. but as u can see not by much. perhaps a third viewing is order.




i also saw RETURN a second time and liked it marginally more.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 16, 2005, 08:05:16 AM
Kid Vengeance must really suck if it gets 5% compared to 40% for Gods Gun.
I don't think Beyond The Law is great but i think its tons better than Gods Gun.
I'm not sure if i should print out my own list of film ratings in case you try to get your own back,hehe!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 16, 2005, 08:13:52 AM
Kid Vengeance must really suck if it gets 5% compared to 40% for Gods Gun.
I don't think Beyond The Law is great but i think its tons better than Gods Gun.
I'm not sure if i should print out my own list of film ratings in case you try to get your own back,hehe!


by all means post them. u have youre opinions and i have my own. such as GRANPA above.


i did not really like BEYOND THE LAW at all. it was the worst hour and a half i can think of in a long time. i was just waiting for it to  be over. even though i bought the damn movie again with the partnering of GRAND DUEL, i asure u i only bought it for the latter.
but that does not mean i will not watch LAW again. i will have to check it out because it is apparently uncut. and i dont have to squint at the screen any more trying to see what is going on through the crap vhs transfer.


and KID VENGEANCE is complete garbage

i was being nice when i gave it a five


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 16, 2005, 08:18:38 AM
Perhaps i ought to lend you the full uncut version of Beyond The Law then which is just short of 2 hours!!
I'll have to go away and think about how to rate my SW's.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 16, 2005, 08:22:04 AM
Perhaps i ought to lend you the full uncut version of Beyond The Law then which is just short of 2 hours!!
I'll have to go away and think about how to rate my SW's.


no BANJO dont worry

i have purchased it with THE GRAND DUEL(IT IS A DOUBLE FEATURE U SEE) i will see it when it comes in.(which should be very soon.)

here take a look at it

www.xploitedcinema.com


i tried the wild east link but it does not work.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 16, 2005, 10:30:53 AM
I think alot of people on this board know what I have in my collection but here they are again...

Johnny Yuma 82%
Between God, The Devil and a Winchester 48%
The Man From Nowhere 80%
Kill And Prey 78%
Pistoleros 54%
Day of Anger 86%
Django 78%
Django Kill, If You Live Shoot 75%
Run, Man, Run 90%
Mannaja 76%
The Big Gundown 84%
Death Rides A Horse 84%
Sabata 48%
Return of Sabata 12%
Texas Adios 62%
A Bullet For The General 75%
Companeros 94%
Four of the Apocolypse 82%
Keoma 54%
My Name is Nobody 97%
Nobody Is The Greatest 12%


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 16, 2005, 10:47:48 AM
I haven't seen the 1st,2nd,3rd and 5th on you list Leone Admirer but i would go along with most of your ratings apart from the Sabatas which i really like.I'm surprised to see Keoma low down at 54% but i  guess this is because of the music.
You must really hate Nobodys the Greatest and i found this gets better with repeated viewings.I haven't seen the dvd docu's but wonder if its true that Leone only directed the opening scene-but i guess they would've said!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 16, 2005, 10:52:41 AM
Banjo, its my opinion at the moment regarding greatest but it may change. Simialr to my opinions to Keoma. I recomend Johnny Yuma and The Man From Nowhere. Tehy are fun spaghettis and can be had quite cheaply from www.xploited.com (http://www.xploited.com) (they are released by Wild East) as you know you can always check out my reviews to see if you like the sound of them.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 16, 2005, 10:55:50 AM
I badly want Johnny Yuma but will have to save up the pennies!!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: indio on November 16, 2005, 01:45:49 PM
ok this is my non leone so far....all dvd...

keoma 100%
companeros 100%
django 90%
the mercenary 95%
face to face 100%
the big gundown 90%
the great silence 95%
the hellbenders 65%
sartana in the valley of death 30%
i am sartana your angel of death 40%
the genius 35%
bounty killer/ugly ones 40%
django kill 80%
tepepa 80%
sonny and jed 75%
run man run 65%
four of the apocalypse 65%
day of anger 65%
death rides a horse 90%
sabata 90%
return of sabata 90%
the grand duel 85%
a bullet for the general 100%
viva django 90%
a man his pride and vengance 70%
my name is nobody 100%
django strikes again (sort of spaghetti!) 70%
deaf smith and johnny ears 60%
blindman 75%
jonathan of the bears 85%
samuari 30%
ace high 65%
massacre time 70%
no room to die70%

vengance is on itv4 this week (my only SW on video) oh i tell a lie ringo and his golden pistol.

on the way is ...
the 2 providence films 90%
death sentance
long live your death

god when you write it down it just shows you what money you spend!!!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: The Peacemaker on November 16, 2005, 02:56:04 PM
To Hex, Where did you get all those SWs? Hardly any of them are available in any form here in the states!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: grandpa_chum on November 16, 2005, 03:29:46 PM
I don't think Beyond The Law is great but i think its tons better than Gods Gun.

That reminds me, I do have to add above the law to my list, i own the double sided death rides a horse/above the law dvd, but have yet to watch above the law at all... really i'm not sure if I even should.



Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 16, 2005, 04:54:39 PM
That reminds me, I do have to add above the law to my list, i own the double sided death rides a horse/above the law dvd, but have yet to watch above the law at all... really i'm not sure if I even should.




which reminds me...LEONE ADMRIRER u did not add THE GREAT SILENCE to youre list.


as for u GRANPA go into that film at youre own risk.



also i just bought TERENCE HILL'S TRINITY dvd pack. which includes the films THEY CALL ME TRINITY, TRINTY IS STILL MY NAME and BOOT HILL(i bet cut).
i bought it for 6.99 at best buy. and for a price like that i am sure the transfer is beyond awful.

i will add it to the list when i am finished viewing them.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 17, 2005, 05:49:17 AM
Here's my list of non-Leone SW's and the percentage ratings reflect my own personal enjoyment of each movie more so than the quality.

GREAT SILENCE 100%
DJANGO 100%
SABATA 100%
DEATH RIDES A HORSE 100%
COMPANEROS 100%
FACE TO FACE 100%
THE MERCENARY  100%
MY NAME IS NOBODY 100%
RUN MAN RUN 100%
BIG GUNDOWN 100%
TEPEPA 95%
BULLET FOR THE GENERAL 95%
LIGHT THE FUSE...SARTANA IS COMING 95%
THEY CALL ME TRINITY 90%
BANDIDOS 90%
FORGOTTEN PISTOLERO 90%
HAVE A GOOD FUNERAL...SARTANA WILL PAY 90%
ADIOS SABATA 90%
NO ROOM TO DIE 85%
HILLS RUN RED 85%
KEOMA 85%
FIVE MAN ARMY 85%
IF YOU MEET SARTANA PRAY FOR YOUR DEATH 85%
A MINUTE TO PRAY,A SECOND TO DIE 80%
MASSACRE TIME 80%
TRINITY IS STILL MY NAME 80%
HELLBENDERS 80%
ACE HIGH 80%
VIVA MARIA 80%
RETURN OF RINGO 80%
DON'T TURN THE OTHER CHEEK 80%
DJANGO THE BASTARD 80%
I AM SARTANA YOUR ANGEL OF DEATH 80%
NAVAJO JOE 75%
JONATHAN OF THE BEARS 75%
I WANT HIM DEAD 75%
CEMETARY WITHOUT CROSSES 75%
GRAND DUEL 75%
PRICE OF POWER 75%
REQUIESCANT 75%
VENGEANCE 75%
MAN CALLED SLEDGE 75%
MANNAJA 75%
BLINDMAN 75%
DAY OF ANGER 70%
FISTFUL OF LEAD 70%
MASSACRE AT FORT HOLMAN 70%
RUTHLESS FOUR 70%
THEY CALL ME HALLELUJAH 70%
MAN,PRIDE & VENGEANCE 70%
RETURN OF SABATA 70%
DEAF SMITH AND JOHNNY EARS 70%
DJANGO STRIKES AGAIN 70%
DJANGO KILL 65%
ANY GUN CAN PLAY 65%
TEXAS ADDIO 65%
TODAY ITS ME TOMMOROW ITS YOU 65%
STRANGER AND THE GUNFIGHTER 65%
NOBODYS THE GREATEST 60%
LIFE IS TOUGH EH PROVIDENCE? 60%
THE UGLY ONES 60%
THE MOMENT TO KILL 60%
FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE 60%
CHUCK MOOL 60%
BULLET FOR SANDOVAL 55%
RINGO AND HIS GOLDEN PISTOL 55%
MAN OF THE EAST 55%
GOD FORGIVES,I DON'T 50%
BEYOND THE LAW 50%
CAPTAIN APACHE 40%
CAN BE DONE,AMIGO 30%
CUT THROATS NINE 20%
SON OF A GUNFIGHTER 10%
BAD MANS RIVER 5%
GODS GUN 1%


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 17, 2005, 05:55:51 AM

which reminds me...LEONE ADMRIRER u did not add THE GREAT SILENCE to youre list.


I only when to the UK Cinema Premiere of Great Silence, I don't own it (yet) but I will give it 96%


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 17, 2005, 12:03:15 PM
well i just added the two TRINITY films to the list having finished watching both now.

i loved the first one as u can see from the rating i gave it.

the second was a complete disappointment. it is great for the first 20 minutes then it loses its way.

oh well...

tonight ill watch my cut BOOT HILL that came with the TRINITY films. ill see how that goes.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 17, 2005, 12:18:08 PM
I got both Trinitys on a 2 on 1 disc -both pan and scan and look like they've been transfered from a knackered  video.The sound quality on the 2nd movie is atrocious with a high pitched whirling sound which gets louder as the film progresses-but i did only pay about £3 for this-will have to get a decent print of both in widescreen!
Have you seen any of the Hill & Spencer films in a more modern setting?Watch Out We're Mad and Crimebusters are hilarious!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 17, 2005, 12:24:30 PM
I got both Trinitys on a 2 on 1 disc -both pan and scan and look like they've been transfered from a knackered  video.The sound quality on the 2nd movie is atrocious with a high pitched whirling sound which gets louder as the film progresses-but i did only pay about £3 for this-will have to get a decent print of both in widescreen!
Have you seen any of the Hill & Spencer films in a more modern setting?Watch Out We're Mad and Crimebusters are hilarious!


no i have not. i will check them out though. i have seen them at xploited cinema.

as for the second TRINITY film yeah we probably have the same transfer it was awful. and it did not help the rating either(though i tried to look past it).

but i have seen much worse. for example my BEYOND THE LAW and DEATH RIDES A HORSE dvd are the most awful transfers that have ever been bestowed upon my collection and probably the world. u almost cant see a damn thing! and the screen is  constantly changing colors, to red to green to a blue tint then back to green.

awful awful awful!

i am gonna have to get a hold of the region two version. i have seen the screen shots and they look wonderful.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 17, 2005, 01:02:15 PM
I've also got similar prints of Death Rides a Horse(luckily i've also  a decent vcr print!) and Beyond the Law on a 4 on 1 LVC dvd as part of the Great American Western Collection.This also has Grand Duel and Gods Gun.As discussed elsewhere my print of Gods Gun is double atrocious and a major reason (among other things)for my complete lack of enjoyment and the 1% rating!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 17, 2005, 01:02:32 PM
Hex I can definatly recomend the R2 of Death Rides A Horse  (it feels oddly wrong to say a R2 is better then a R1). As described in my review the picture and sound quality are good. There are zero extras however, menu design is poor and there is an annoying anti-piracy trailer at the begining of the disc. If you just want the film though this is a good buy.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: indio on November 17, 2005, 01:20:39 PM
that is annoying your right.
oh and banjo your new pic is great!!!!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 17, 2005, 03:09:35 PM
Hex I can definatly recomend the R2 of Death Rides A Horse  (it feels oddly wrong to say a R2 is better then a R1). As described in my review the picture and sound quality are good. There are zero extras however, menu design is poor and there is an annoying anti-piracy trailer at the begining of the disc. If you just want the film though this is a good buy.


thanks LEONE ADMIRER. that seems very much the same as the SABATA dvds that came out recently. no extras, annoying piracy trailer, but incredible transfer.



i get the feelingMGM will release the region 1 version just after i get the region two version. but the hell with that i am not waiting.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 17, 2005, 03:40:54 PM
I overlooked but have now added Day of Anger(i knew i had 80 SW's in all !) to the above list.I've only given this 70% because it's the cut version and also i don't like LVC dying at the end(sniff!).
Cheers Indio and it's thanks to Hex that i got the picture sorted out!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 17, 2005, 03:48:51 PM
I overlooked but have now added Day of Anger(i knew i had 80 SW's in all !) to the above list.I've only given this 70% because it's the cut version and also i don't like LVC dying at the end(sniff!).
Cheers Indio and it's thanks to Hex that i got the picture sorted out!


well youre welcome BANJO. but if it were not for HARMONICA'S instructions i could have never told u myself.

 everybody listen ignore our conversation and dont mind us. continue on posting youre collections.

also BANJO u should really get a hold of the WILD EAST dvd of DAY OF ANGER.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Christopher on November 17, 2005, 06:20:34 PM
i bought it for 6.99 at best buy. and for a price like that i am sure the transfer is beyond awful.
That's a really good price for it! My mom bought it for my dad a few years ago for $15.

I don't have much of a SW collection, but my non-Leone DVDs are:

Death Rides a Horse/Beyond the Law 2-sided DVD
Django
Mannaja-A Man Called Blade

I'm thinking about ordering Four of the Apocalypse soon.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: grandpa_chum on November 18, 2005, 12:48:44 AM

I'm thinking about ordering Four of the Apocalypse soon.

If I were you I'd just save up for the whole Once Upon A Time In Italy Box Set... It doesn't cost that much more(maybe the price of 3 of them seperately) and all 5 of the dvds are well worth it.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 18, 2005, 02:57:53 AM
Hi Christopher
I'd think carefully before getting Four of the Apocalypse.Apart from Tomas Milian its not particularly SW in style and is nowhere near as good as the recognised classics.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 18, 2005, 04:22:44 AM
As you know banjo, I was quite surprised by the fact that I liked Four of the Apocalypse. I agree its not the most spaghetti of italian westerns and it does seem to take the form of a hazy journey movie, but in my review I liked it and I would recomend it for people to check it out.  I also recomend the Once Upon A Time In Italy. As Hex said all the five films included in the box were great, even better if you like Keoma, and each film contains a stirling transfer and audio along with some interesting features. Plus it contains the excellent Companeros


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Marco Leone on November 18, 2005, 04:25:45 AM
Well here goes - those without a rating are the ones that I haven't watched yet!  Apologies, but being lazy I have just lifted my ratings from my site rather than using a % system!  Which is **** must view, *** recommended, ** watchable, * avoid.   :P And ignore the Poll and Information terms which are links on my site (see, I told you I was lazy.  Would have taken ages to delete all of those!).

$10,000 Blood Money (Poll)
A Pistol for Ringo (Information) ****
A Town Called Hell (Information) ***
Ace High (Information) ***
Acquasanta Joe (Information) **
Adios Sabata (Poll)
An Eye for an Eye (aka Drummer of Vengeance) (Info) **
And for a Roof a Skyful of Stars (Information) ***
And God Said to Cain (Poll)
Angry Gun (aka The Return of Ringo) (Information) ****
Any Gun Can Play (Information) ***
Bad Man's River (Information) **
Ballad of Death Valley (aka Sartana in the Valley of Death)(Information) ***
Bandidos (Information) ***
Belle Starr Story (Information) ***
Between God the Devil and a Winchester (Information) ***
Beyond the Law (Information) **
Big Gundown (Information) ****
Blind Man (Information) ***
Blood Money (aka Stranger & the Gunfighter) (Info) ***
Bullet for Sandoval (Poll)
Bullet for the General (Information) ****
Captain Apache (Information)
Cemetery Without Crosses (Information) ****
Chapaqua's Gold (Poll)
Chato's Land (Poll)
Cjmango (Poll)
Coffin for the Sherriff (Poll)
Companeros (Information) ****
Cut Throats Nine (Information) ***
Day of Anger (aka Gun Law) (Information) **
Deaf Smith and Johnny Ears (Information) **
Death Played the Flute (Information) ***
Death Rides a Horse (Information) ****
Death Sentence (Poll)
Death Walks in Laredo (Information) ***
Django (Information) ****
Django Against Sartana (Information) **
Django Kill.... If You Live, Shoot (Information) ****
Django Shoots First (Information) ***
Django Strikes Again (Information) ***
Django the Bastard (aka The Strangers Gundown) (Info) ****
Django the Runner (aka Massacre Time) (Information) ***
El Puro (Poll)
Execution **
Face to Face (Information) ****
Find a Place to Die (Information) ***
Fistful of Dollars (Information) ****
Fistful of Dynamite (aka Duck You Sucker) (Information) ****
Five Man Army (Information) ***
For a Few Dollars More (Information) ****
Forgotten Pistolero (Information) ****
Get Mean (Information) *
God's Gun (Information) **
Good, the Bad and the Ugly (Information) ****+
Grand Duel (Information) ****
Great Silence (Information) ****
Guns for San Sebastian (Information) ***
Hate Thy Neighbour (Information) ***
Heads You Die, Tails I Kill You (Information) ***
Hellbenders (Information) ****
Hills Run Red (Information) ***
I Want Him Dead (Poll)
Johnny Yuma (Information) ****
Jonathan of the Bears (Information) ***
Keoma (Information) ****
Kill and Pray (aka Requiescant) (Information)
Kill Johnny Ringo (Information) **
Last of the Badmen (Information) ***
Life is Tough, Right Providence? (Information) **
Long Live Your Death (Information) ***
Man Called Blade (aka Mannaja) (Information) ***
Man Called Sledge (Poll)
Man, His Pride and His Vengeance (Information) ***
Massacre at Fort Holman (Poll)
Matalo! (Poll)
Mercenary (aka A Professional Gun) (Information) ****
Minnesota Clay (Information) ***
My Name is Nobody (Information) ***
Navajo Joe (Information) ****
Once Upon a Time in the West (Information) ****
One Silver Dollar (Information) ***
Pancho Villa (Information)
Payment in Blood (aka Blakes Marauders)(Information) ***
Pistoleros (aka Ballad of a Gunman)(Information)
Price of Power (Information) **
Return of Sabata (Information) *
Ringo and his Golden Pistol (aka Johnny Oro) (Poll)
Ringo: Face of Revenge (Information) **
Ruthless Four (Information) ***
Sabata (Information) ***
Samurai (Poll)
Sartana, Pray for Your Death (Information) ***
Some Dollars for Django (Information) **
Son of a Gunfighter (Poll)
Sonny and Jed (Poll)
Stranger in Sacramento (Poll)
Stranger in Town (Information) ***
Stranger Returns (Information) ***
Texas Adios (Information) ***
They Call Him Veritas (Poll)
They Call Me Trinity (Information) ***
Today its Me.... Tomorrow You (Information) ***
Tramplers (Poll)
Ugly Ones (Information) ***
Vengeance (Information) ***
Viva Django (Information) ***
Wanted (Poll)


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 18, 2005, 06:51:06 AM
Phew,am i ever gonna catch up with you Marco?
Leone Admirer it would seem the best bet,money permitting ,to get the 5 disc box set.Otherwise in view of the very mixed reception Four of the Apocalypse tends to get,its possible(especially if he's coming in from a Leone Lovers angle)that Christopher would feel let down here-elsewhere you admitted yourself that the film falters in the last third of the movie .Its not as if our friend is struggling for choice at the moment!
Indio,i've never heard of "The Genius"-any good?And (Marco & Indio) is Sonny & Jed worth getting hold of?


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 18, 2005, 07:41:48 AM
If I were you I'd just save up for the whole Once Upon A Time In Italy Box Set... It doesn't cost that much more(maybe the price of 3 of them seperately) and all 5 of the dvds are well worth it.


i second GRANPA'S notion CHRIS. u get that film and four others.
KEOMA
COMPANEROS
TEXAS ADDIO
BULLET FOR THE GENERAL and of course APOCALYPSE


all must sees if u ask me. but most might disagree with APOCALYPSE.






BANJO i must agree that APOCALYPSE falters in the last third of the film. but only in the snow scene does it falter. after that it is forgiven(at least by me) for that overly long and dragged out scene. it is really cool to see what happens to CHACO. but dont expect an amazing shoot out or showdown CHRIS. the last scene is rather suddle.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 18, 2005, 07:51:51 AM
I agree with you banjo, as you know I didn't think I was going to like Four Of The Apocalypse but ended up doing so. Also, I believe that The Genius is the UK and Austrailan release name for Nobody Is The Greatest so if you've got the German Paramount release of the Nobody films, then you may well have seen it. If not, I would say don't see it, it has a good opening and then the rest of the film is dissapointment after dissapointment. Well in my opinion anyway.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Christopher on November 18, 2005, 08:24:55 AM
That Once Upon A Time In Italy box set looks good, but I don't know if I could spend that money right now. The best price I've seen is on deepdiscountdvd.com at around $53.

Oh, I forgot in my last post to include the other SW's that are in my house, but they don't belong to me. I've mentioned before my dad as the Trinity collection with They Call Me Trinity, Trinity is Still My Name, and Boot Hill. Then there's also My Name is Nobody and a much newer movie called Sons of Trinity.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Marco Leone on November 18, 2005, 08:32:43 AM
And (Marco & Indio) is Sonny & Jed worth getting hold of?

Banjo, its one that I have got but haven't yet seen.  I'll let you know  ;D


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 18, 2005, 08:36:59 AM
That Once Upon A Time In Italy box set looks good, but I don't know if I could spend that money right now. The best price I've seen is one deepdiscountdvd.com at around $53.

how about a nice CHRISTMAS gift from someone? ;D
just ask youre parents. they got to get u something this CHRISTMAS any way.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 18, 2005, 10:24:27 AM
BOOT HILL was disgustingly bad.
it starts off well enough with CAT STEVENS wounded and in hiding from guys who want to kiill him. he hides in a circus carriage. he is found by WOODY STRODE who then helps him heal. when CAT is healed they go to look for HUTCH(bud spencer) CAT'S old friend and companian in the prequels. once BUD is in the picture the film goes down hill. not that because BUD ruined it, but because it just becomes hopelessly boring.

maybe i am being harsh on it considering i have the worst copy imaginably. when i watched it i felt as if i were under water. the screen is murkey throughout. GOD praise u if u can actually understand what is going on in the twilight and night scenes. u cant see a damn thing.

the only reason i can think of to buy the apparently pristine copy from WILD EAST is to see how good a job they did with it. those people are miracle workers if they actually can make an entertaining movie out of this piece of shite.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 18, 2005, 03:08:21 PM
cool! i just got my BEYOND THE LAW and THE GRAND DUEL double-pack from WILD EAST.

ill be making a review of it possibly tomorrow and i will add it on my list.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: indio on November 19, 2005, 12:19:52 AM
banjo- leone ad is right the genius is also called nobodys the greatest a sort of sequel to my name is nobody.
i like sonny and jed milian is great in it. but its not one of the best


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: cigar joe on November 19, 2005, 04:58:16 AM
Got my Beyond the Law & Grand Duel too!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 19, 2005, 12:00:44 PM
Looking forward to hearing about the Cleef double pack Hex. Its definatly one of the releases I'm going to buy after Christmas, along with the 6 Fox Noirs I need to catch up on.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: The Smoker on November 19, 2005, 01:40:20 PM
(Marco & Indio) is Sonny & Jed worth getting hold of?

Banjo, its one that I have got but haven't yet seen.  I'll let you know  ;D

Sonny & Jed is not bad.
The film looks fantastic. Has that Django compination of muddy backwater towns and over-cast skies. Something Corbucci hadn't revisited for a while, very odd gritty look for something so light an hyperactive. Looks like it was intentionally filmed during the spanish wintertime. No snow but looks bloody cold. Everybody seems to be decked out in animal furs.
Milian is at his funniest in places.
The guy can act waspy, use language like a sailor then walk off camera annoyed and get laughs. Savalas cigar chomping sheriff Francisco is also alot  fun. Looks very bear like in his grey fur coat.
The chemistry between outlaws Susan George & Thomas Milian can be hit and miss. A scene in a dingey gambling room is a highlight, which Sonny decides to hold up after she looses money on the roulette wheel. Also adding to there own infamousy by actually complaining to a town printers about the duos wanted poster, and thus forcing the tradesman at gunpoint to take a photograph of them for a new poster.
Does disolve into noisy italian domestic like squabbling, and can be bit too much at times. Its a movie of Make up brake up... and then make up.
There probably isn't enough scenes of them working as a western bonnie and clyde as there should be. Far too much falling out, and one of them (normally Sonny) being left shouting obsentites from a road side as the other rides off with loot to the next town. But i have my suspison this might be down to cuts and the version i own. 
 
Morricone Soundtrack is very melancholy like Giu La Testa/Nobody but with a more poppy acoustic guitar struming theme like Genius.

Good Corbucci is few and far between by the early 70s. Buts its a dam site better than White, the Yellow, and the Black
J&S is not perfect but its a guilty pleasure almost.

On the Spaghetti Western list?.. i couldn't begin. Somebody only the other week ask me for a list of my 60s Japanese Chambara movies which I also seem to horde in large quantities. Still havn't sorted out a few cardboard boxes chocked full of VHS / DVD-R bootlegs after moving house. There buried under some more boxes 6 deep in the spare room.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Marco Leone on November 20, 2005, 08:48:51 AM
Thanks Smoker.  Hopefully I'll be watching this one soon.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 21, 2005, 02:19:42 AM
Thanks Smoker and Indio for the info about Sonny & Jed.I'm a bit of a Susan George admirer as well as Tomas Milian and i'll keep an eye open on Ebay for this movie!
Hex-i vaguely remember Boot Hill as being pretty tedious and thanks for confirming this.I also found the first in the trilogy,God Forgives..I don't,a bit boring and overlong though the basic storyline was gripping.However,i  really enjoy the middle one,Ace High,which shows the beginnings of Hill and Spencers (Eli Wallach's brilliant here too!)great comedy future!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 23, 2005, 10:23:01 AM
To Hex, Where did you get all those SWs? Hardly any of them are available in any form here in the states!


sorry i have not responded to this in a long time
PEACMAKER. for those that u cannot get in the states(on my list) which are only about a few of them not more then 4. are bootlegs. i purchased them all last month from an ebay seller named JERKSI. other than that everything else u can find on vhs if not on dvd. but be warned the hard to find ones are really crap quality.



if youre having trouble finding them just locate JERKSI on ebay.

or u could go to www.xploitedcinema.com where u can find all the titles i have mentioned and probably over a 200 more.


(wow i advertise that site in my posts all lot.) ;D


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 24, 2005, 01:51:20 AM
Yeau i've been tempted to buy from Jerksi(i want the uncut Tepepa!) and its good to hear he's a quality seller of hard to find SWs.Fortunately we have a two or three good ones in the UK as well ,selling on Ebay!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: grandpa_chum on November 24, 2005, 11:18:13 AM
uncut(as far as I can tell from the description) tepepa is available at xploitedcinema.com... definitely on my to buy list.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 24, 2005, 12:28:15 PM
Yeau i've been tempted to buy from Jerksi(i want the uncut Tepepa!) and its good to hear he's a quality seller of hard to find SWs.Fortunately we have a two or three good ones in the UK as well ,selling on Ebay!


BANJO,

JERKSI clearly states that his version of TEPPEPA is not uncut.
which makes me want to wait for a full uncut version(which apparently there is none.) but how long do i have to wait? ahhhhhhhhh!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on November 25, 2005, 04:39:16 AM
I think i read it as the fullest available version with just the English audio-the very cheap (and cut)Blood & Guns video is a pretty good substitute though!


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 25, 2005, 08:47:21 AM
I think i read it as the fullest available version with just the English audio-the very cheap (and cut)Blood & Guns video is a pretty good substitute though!


JERKSI claims that his version is the longest running version(and i tend to believe him)


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 25, 2005, 11:22:40 AM
Is Teppepa available uncut and in English anywhere in the world? I'm sure I read of a German 2 discer which had the English soundtrack.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 25, 2005, 12:34:18 PM
Is Teppepa available uncut and in English anywhere in the world? I'm sure I read of a German 2 discer which had the English soundtrack.


if there is i have never heard or come across one on the interenet. and for those that claim to be uncut usually have a few scenes in itailian with no english subtitles.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 25, 2005, 02:12:01 PM
I'll see if I can dig it up again Hex. I remember I typed the title into Google and came across it after a bit of searching.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Sundance on November 25, 2005, 04:16:25 PM
There is an uncut disc from Italy with english audio. But the english soundtrack is missing about 15minutes of audio which has never been dubbed into english. I think Jerksi has cut these scenes away from his disc... so his disc is probably the most complete english version of the movie, but is very much cut.

Jerksi's disc description says his disc runs 116minutes (NTSC I believe) and the italian disc is 126min54secs in PAL which would convert to about 132minutes in NTSC speed. (Although Jerksi's disc might be PAL in speed but NTSC in resolution, which would make the length difference only about 10-11minutes. Which could be true since judging from the description, it seems jerksi has couple of lines in italian with english subtitles. Why not add all the scenes like that then, I wonder... Also, the italian disc might have scenes with no audio even though theres no speech, and jerksi probably has these on his disc)

http://www.sundances.net/spaghetti/tepepa.php


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 26, 2005, 12:05:46 AM
There is an uncut disc from Italy with english audio. But the english soundtrack is missing about 15minutes of audio which has never been dubbed into english. I think Jerksi has cut these scenes away from his disc... so his disc is probably the most complete english version of the movie, but is very much cut.

Jerksi's disc description says his disc runs 116minutes (NTSC I believe) and the italian disc is 126min54secs in PAL which would convert to about 132minutes in NTSC speed. (Although Jerksi's disc might be PAL in speed but NTSC in resolution, which would make the length difference only about 10-11minutes. Which could be true since judging from the description, it seems jerksi has couple of lines in italian with english subtitles. Why not add all the scenes like that then, I wonder... Also, the italian disc might have scenes with no audio even though theres no speech, and jerksi probably has these on his disc)

http://www.sundances.net/spaghetti/tepepa.php


well i think JERKSI should leave it uncut. i think to take 11 minutes out of a film is way to much to take out.


nice to hear how famous JERKSI is though ;D.

and he deserves his fame. i have bought quite a few sw's from him that u cant get in the u.s and let me tell u the guy is a miracle worker. his prints are beautiful. and if youre lucky u can get them under 10 bucks. i recently won CEMENTARY WITHOUT CROSSES for like 15 bucks and JERKSI'S auction. that same movie has to be purchased for 50 dollars! no way sir. i am trying to stay away from those japanese prices as much as i can. if i have to buy bootlegs of them, well dammit so be it! ;D


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: HEX on November 30, 2005, 07:13:29 PM
forgot to mention(and i cant blame myself, the film is best forgotten) i own CRY BLOOD APACHE in a really bad video transfer. it is just awful. i never even finished it. doesnt even feel like an sw.


also guys i am all for talking about the films here but can we have a few more collections listed here? i know its a pain to go through all youre stuff and give grades but it will be nice to have here.


i still want to see the following members grade there films.

CIGAR JOE
THE SMOKER
JUAN MIRANDA
DERRINGDO
BOARDWALK ANGEL
NOBODY
GROGGY
BEEBS
and a few more


come on guys.


and oh INDIO...can u please grade youre collection?


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: cigar joe on December 02, 2005, 07:00:53 PM
Here is my ungraded Spaghetti-Euro Western collection:

GBU
OUTITW
FAFDM
AFOD
The Great Silence
The Mercenary
Companeros
Django
Navajo Joe
Face To Face
The Big Gundown
Run Man Run
A Bullet For The General
Price Of Power
Day Of Anger
My Name Is Nobody
Death Rides A Horse
Tepepa
Keoma
Blindman
The Grand Duel
Beyond The Law
A Man Called Sledge
Cemetery Without Crosses
Mannaja A Man Called Blade
I Am Sartana Your Angel of Death
Four Of The Apocalypse
Renegade




Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: grandpa_chum on December 03, 2005, 11:39:03 PM
you should sell me your copy of navajo joe since you say it was only worth one viewing anyhow...haha... or at least tell me where you happened to get it.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Christopher on December 17, 2005, 04:20:36 PM
I just ordered the Once Upon a Time in Italy box set. I'm looking forward to watching all five of these.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: cigar joe on December 17, 2005, 07:04:20 PM
Give us your reports when you get them. Looking forward to them.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 18, 2005, 12:00:51 AM
The boxset is a good collection of Spaghetti's Chris, I hope you enjoy them.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on December 21, 2005, 08:23:48 AM
GREAT SILENCE 100%
DJANGO 100%
SABATA 100%
DEATH RIDES A HORSE 100%
COMPANEROS 100%
FACE TO FACE 100%
THE MERCENARY  100%
MY NAME IS NOBODY 100%
RUN MAN RUN 100%
BIG GUNDOWN 100%
SARTANA 100%
TEPEPA 95%
BULLET FOR THE GENERAL 95%
LIGHT THE FUSE...SARTANA IS COMING 95%
VIVA DJANGO 95%
THEY CALL ME TRINITY 90%
BANDIDOS 90%
FORGOTTEN PISTOLERO 90%
HAVE A GOOD FUNERAL...SARTANA WILL PAY 90%
ADIOS SABATA 90%
JOHNNY YUMA 90%
NO ROOM TO DIE 85%
HILLS RUN RED 85%
KEOMA 85%
FIVE MAN ARMY 85%
A MINUTE TO PRAY,A SECOND TO DIE 80%
MASSACRE TIME 80%
TRINITY IS STILL MY NAME 80%
HELLBENDERS 80%
ACE HIGH 80%
VIVA MARIA 80%
RETURN OF RINGO 80%
DON'T TURN THE OTHER CHEEK 80%
DJANGO THE BASTARD 80%
I AM SARTANA YOUR ANGEL OF DEATH 80%
AND FOR THE SKY A ROOF FULL OF STARS 75%
NAVAJO JOE 75%
JONATHAN OF THE BEARS 75%
I WANT HIM DEAD 75%
CEMETARY WITHOUT CROSSES 75%
GRAND DUEL 75%
PRICE OF POWER 75%
REQUIESCANT 75%
VENGEANCE 75%
MAN CALLED SLEDGE 75%
MANNAJA 75%
BLINDMAN 75%
DAY OF ANGER 70%
FISTFUL OF LEAD 70%
MASSACRE AT FORT HOLMAN 70%
RUTHLESS FOUR 70%
THEY CALL ME HALLELUJAH 70%
MAN,PRIDE & VENGEANCE 70%
RETURN OF SABATA 70%
DEAF SMITH AND JOHNNY EARS 70%
DJANGO STRIKES AGAIN 70%
WHAT AM I DOING IN THE MIDDLE OF A REVOLUTION 65%
THOSE DIRTY DOGS 70%
DJANGO KILL 65%
ANY GUN CAN PLAY 65%
TEXAS ADDIO 65%
TODAY ITS ME TOMMOROW ITS YOU 65%
STRANGER AND THE GUNFIGHTER 65%
FIGHTING FISTS OF SHANGHAI JOE 60%
NOBODYS THE GREATEST 60%
LIFE IS TOUGH EH PROVIDENCE? 60%
THE UGLY ONES 60%
THE MOMENT TO KILL 60%
FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE 60%
CHUCK MOOL 60%
MINNESOTA CLAY 55%
BULLET FOR SANDOVAL 55%
RINGO AND HIS GOLDEN PISTOL 55%
MAN OF THE EAST 55%
SAVAGE GUNS 50%
GOD FORGIVES,I DON'T 50%
BEYOND THE LAW 50%
FIND A PLACE TO DIE 50%
CAPTAIN APACHE 40%
WHITE COMMANCHE 35%
BETWEEN THE GOD,DEVIL & A WINCHESTER 30%
CAN BE DONE,AMIGO 30%
CUT THROATS NINE 20%
SON OF A GUNFIGHTER 10%
BAD MANS RIVER 5%
BOOT HILL 2%
GODS GUN 1%

To be rated
$10,000 BLOOD MONEY
FOR $100,000 PER KILLING
THIS MAN CAN'T DIE

Updated 2/4/06


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on December 30, 2006, 10:07:41 AM
List the SWs you have seen, in no particular order.

( Firecracker, please stay away from this topic. Your list will take up the entire page!  ;D )

-OUATITW
-GBU
-FOD
-FFDM
-Quien Sabe?
-Companeros
-Death Rides a Horse
-Navajo Joe
-Keoma
-Four of the Apacolypse
-Texas Adios
-The Mercenary
-The Great Silence
-A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die
-Massacre Time
-The Big Gundown
-Vengeance
-The Genius
-My Name is Nobody
-Any Gun Can Play
-Ace High
-Boot Hill
-Django
-Run Man Run
-Blindman


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on December 30, 2006, 10:30:55 AM
Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

OUATITW *****
GBU *****
FOD ***
FAFDM ****
DYS
*****
Death Rides a Horse *** (will watch in Widescreen soon)
A Bullet for The General ***
Keoma ***
Four of the Apocalypse *
Texas Adios **
The Mercenary ****
The Great Silence ****
Django ****
The Big Gundown ****
The Hellbenders
****
My Name is Nobody *** 1/2
Ace High ** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***
Trinity is Still My Name **
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Face to Face ****
Cemetery Without Crosses
****
Compañeros ****
Django The Bastard ***
W Django * 1/2
Sabata *** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot![/i] **

I'm hijacking this thread and taking it as a thread where i can keep track of every spag I've ever seen and also my own personal SW review thread.

My buddy burned a copy of Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! for me. I'm giving it


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Amaze on December 30, 2006, 12:29:30 PM
OUATITW
GBU
FOD
FAFDM
DYS
Django


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on December 30, 2006, 01:30:40 PM
You forgot DYS on your list as well as RMR and Blindman. You kinda suck at this.

Oops.  :-[

I fixed my mistake.

I forgot about RMR and Blindman, but I didn't put DYS on deliberately because I never felt it was a western.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Beebs on December 30, 2006, 02:15:18 PM
GBU
FFDM
FoD
OUTW
My Name is Nobody
Death Rides a Horse
Ace High
They Call Me Trinity

and just recently added

Trinity Is Still My Name


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: PowerRR on December 30, 2006, 10:00:56 PM
I sure don't feel like listing them, but how is Death Rides a Horse and Boot Hill? I recently recieved them in a collection along with One-Eyed Jacks and The Gunfighters. I would like to get your opinions on them, as I saw a couple listed.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on December 30, 2006, 10:11:12 PM
I sure don't feel like listing them, but how is Death Rides a Horse and Boot Hill? I recently recieved them in a collection along with One-Eyed Jacks and The Gunfighters. I would like to get your opinions on them, as I saw a couple listed.

Death Rides a Horse is one of the best in the genre. truly a great SW.

I liked Boot Hill, but it's nothing great. If you haven't seen it, you're not missing anything.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: cigar joe on December 30, 2006, 10:14:36 PM
DRAH though, if you don't get the SPO Japan release or a DVDr of it, is kinda ruined in the Pan & Scan, so beware.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on December 30, 2006, 10:17:23 PM
DRAH though, if you don't get the SPO Japan release or a DVDr of it, is kinda ruined in the Pan & Scan, so beware.

That's not true. If you have a region free DVD player then you can get the British mgm DVD. It's in widescreen.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Amaze on December 31, 2006, 04:36:57 AM
region free is not enough. you also need a player and a tv that can handle the pal signal.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: grandpa_chum on December 31, 2006, 05:06:13 AM
OUATIW
GBU
FAFDM
FOD
DYS
Navajo joe
keoma
Great silence
companeros
Mannaja
Death rides a horse
The Grand duel
Django
Big gundown
Day of anger
My Name is nobody
Run Man run
A Reason to live a reason to die
Quien sabe
Texas adios
Four of the apocalypse
beyond the law
The Mercenary


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: cigar joe on December 31, 2006, 05:59:02 AM
Quote
If you have a region free DVD player then you can get the British mgm DVD. It's in widescreen.

I was talking about R1 options without a region free DVD player, Peace. lol

There is a Canadian Death Rides A Horse DVD release that's just crap. I got around it with an excellent DVDr of the SPO Japan release that plays fine for $10.



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: cigar joe on December 31, 2006, 06:13:56 AM
As far as my SW's

GBU  SE
GBU
OUTITW
FAFDM
AFOD
Run Man Run
Blindman
Cemetery Without Crosses
The Mercenary
The Great Silence
Beyond The Law
Day Of Anger
A Man Called Sledge
The Grand Duel
The Big Gundown
A Minute To Pray A Second to Die
Companero's
Face To Face
And God Said to Cain
The Specialist
My Name is Nobody
Man Pride Vengence
A Bullet for the General
Manjana a man called Blade
Tepepa
Keoma
Four of the Apocalypse
The Price of Power
Django
Sartana Your Angle of Death

I also have a number of Euros that I didn't list




Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on December 31, 2006, 08:22:01 AM
region free is not enough. you also need a player and a tv that can handle the pal signal.

Every region-free dvd player that I've seen has a Pal to NTSC converter.


Are we listing all the SW's we've seen or all the ones we own?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Beebs on December 31, 2006, 08:43:04 AM
I just realized the Trinity is Still My Name disc also has Boot Hill!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: cigar joe on December 31, 2006, 09:06:17 AM
I listed those that I own currently, I did sell Navajo Joe to the g_c I think it was (correct me if I'm wrong) and gave away Aces High to Kermit/Cisco.  :)

I've seen Sabata, Deaf Smith & Johnny Ears,


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on December 31, 2006, 01:19:23 PM
A FISTFUL OF DOLLARS *** (R2)
A BULLET FOR THE GENERAL ****
A BULLET FOR SANDOVAL ***
ANY GUN CAN PLAY **1/2
ADIOS, GRINGO *** (R2)
ADIOS, SABATA ***
A CLOUD OF DUST...A CRY OF DEATH...SARTANA IS COMING! ***1/2
AND GOD SAID TO CAIN ***
ACE HIGH **1/2
AND FOR A ROOF, A SKY FULL OF STARS **1/2 (R2)
ALIVE OR PREFERABLY DEAD (not watched yet) (R2)
A REASON TO LIVE, A REASON TO DIE **1/2
A COFFIN FOR THE SHERIFF **1/2
A TASTE OF KILLING ***
A STRANGER IN TOWN **1/2
ARIZONA COLT ***

BEYOND THE LAW **
BEN & CHARLIE **1/2
BIG GUNDOWN, THE **1/2
BOUNTY KILLER, THE *1/2
BLACK KILLER *
BLINDMAN *** (R2)
BANDIDOS *** (R2)
BLOOD AT SUNDOWN **1/2

CALIFORNIA ***
COMPANEROS ****
DJANGO ****
DJANGO, KILL! * (one star for the talking bird only)
DJANGO THE BASTARD *1/2
DJANGO, GET A COFFIN READY **1/2 (R2)
DAY OF ANGER ****
DEATH RIDES A HORSE **** (R2)

FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE **** (R2)
FOUR OF THE APOCALYPSE *
FIND A PLACE TO DIE **1/2
FIVE MAN ARMY **
FORGOTTEN PISTOLERO, THE **** (R2)
FIGHTING FISTS OF SHANGHAI JOE, THE ** (R2)
FACE TO FACE ****
FAST HAND IS STILL MY NAME **

GREAT SILENCE, THE ****
GRAND DUEL, THE ***1/2
GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY, THE ****
GENTLEMAN KILLER **1/2
GOD FORGIVES, I DON'T ****

HIS NAME WAS HOLY GHOST **1/2
HELLBENDERS, THE ****
HILLS RUN RED, THE ****
HERE WE GO AGAIN, EH PROVIDENCE? **1/2
HAVE A NICE FUNERAL MY FRIEND, SARTANA WILL PAY ***

I WANT HIM DEAD **1/2
IF YOU MEET SARTANA, PRAY FOR YOUR DEATH **1/2

JOHNNY ORO ***
JOHNNY YUMA **1/2

KEOMA ***1/2
KILL & PRAY **

LIFE IS TOUGH, EH PROVIDENCE? ***
LONG DAYS OF VENGEANCE ***1/2 (R2)
LONG LIVE YOUR DEATH ***1/2
LONG ROAD TO HELL, THE **1/2

MERCENARY, THE ****
MINNESOTA CLAY **1/2
MY NAME IS NOBODY ***1/2 (R2)
MAN OF THE EAST **1/2 (R2)
MAN, PRIDE & VENGEANCE ***1/2
MASSACRE TIME ***
MANNAJA, A MAN CALLED BLADE **1/2

NAVAJO JOE ****
NOBODY'S THE GREATEST *1/2 (R2)

ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST ****
ONCE UPON A TIME IN THE WEST...THERE WAS A MAN CALLED INVINCIBLE **
ONE SILVER DOLLAR ***1/2

PRICE OF POWER ***1/2
PISTOL FOR RINGO **** (R2)

RETURN OF RINGO **** (R2)
RETURN OF SABATA **1/2
RETURN OF THE STRANGER **1/2
RUN, MAN, RUN

SABATA ***1/2
SARTANA THE GRAVEDIGGER **1/2
SARTANA'S HERE, TRADE YOUR PISTOL FOR A COFFIN *
SEVEN GUNS FOR THE MACGREGORS **** (R2)
SEVEN WOMEN FOR THE MACGREGORS **** (R2)
STRANGER & THE GUNFIGHTER, THE ***1/2
SHOOT THE LIVING & PRAY FOR THE DEAD ** (R2)

TEXAS, ADIOS ***
THEY CALL ME CEMETERY **1/2
THEY CALL ME TRINITY **** (R2)
TRINITY IS STILL MY NAME ***1/2 (R2)
TODAY WE LIVE, TOMORROW WE DIE **1/2
10,000 DOLLARS BLOOD MONEY **1/2
THOSE DIRTY DOGS **

VENGEANCE * (R2)
VENGEANCE IS MINE ***

WANTED *** (R2)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Beebs on December 31, 2006, 01:20:10 PM
Wow!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on December 31, 2006, 01:28:19 PM
Arizona Colt, do you own all 86 of those SW, or are you like me, and just listing all the ones you've seen? You're a real expert of the italian cult cinema.

I agree with you on Four of the Apocalypse  ;) but I liked Django the Bastard a little more than you did.

And your region 2 dvds of Fistful of Dollars and FAFDM, are those the British or the German special editions?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on December 31, 2006, 01:36:10 PM
Yes, I own all of those I didn't list them all though. My dollars films are the german 4 disc set with the stunning packaging. xploitedcinema.com has it for $44.00. Firecracker has much more than me. I have a vast dvd collection spanning all genres as I like just about everything. If you limit yourself to one type of film you're missing out on a lot of great entertainment.

That's what cinema is all about-entertainment.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on December 31, 2006, 01:38:42 PM
Regarding DJANGO THE BASTARD, I'm going to watch it again as I fell asleep several times. I think I was simply misled by the packaging about the violence. Considering Sergio Garrone, who directed several of the Italian Nazi films, did this one, I expected a certain element of sleaze value and it had none unless there is an uncut version somewhere.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on December 31, 2006, 01:41:47 PM
Yes, I own all of those I didn't list them all though. My dollars films are the german 4 disc set with the stunning packaging. xploitedcinema.com has it for $44.00.

Yes, that set looks quite marvelous.

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I have a vast dvd collection spanning all genres as I like just about everything. If you limit yourself to one type of film you're missing out on a lot of great entertainment.

Very true, what are some of your other favorite genres? (I understand from your other posts you're a fan of Blaxploitation and Italian Horror)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on December 31, 2006, 01:45:03 PM
Regarding DJANGO THE BASTARD, I'm going to watch it again as I fell asleep several times. I think I was simply misled by the packaging about the violence. Considering Sergio Garrone, who directed several of the Italian Nazi films, did this one, I expected a certain element of sleaze value and it had none unless there is an uncut version somewhere.

yes, I rather enjoyed Django the bastard. Anthony Steffen delivers an extremely wooden performance (though it's intentional, since he's an avenging ghost) but I still found it very entertaining. I really loved those two opening minutes when Django walks into town with his black poncho, takes the cross out from under it, and rams it in the ground. It's a very good introduction!

I don't remember a whole lot about the movie now that you mention it (I should i saw it just a month ago for the first time) but I do remember enjoying it. A seven out of ten from Silenzio.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on December 31, 2006, 01:47:47 PM
Check out my sci-fi thread in the off topic discussion and I have a kung fu and sonny chiba thread around somewhere also. If you want give me you email and I can email you my catolog of my collection or get it from FC, as he has it. You'll see everything I've got then.

There are so many things I want to see and so much I've only heard of that I want to see. I just finished a script that I'm preparing to have copyrighted so hopefully if one of them sells I'll be able to have the free time to watch the 100 or so dvds that have piled up. Next week I'm going to purchase 18 Italian crime films. I own 4 and there all pretty good except for BEAST WITH A GUN with Helmet Berger and that "great" actor Richard Harrison.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on December 31, 2006, 01:50:43 PM
Agreeance about that opening. One thing I did like was the horror ambience the film had and I really like the final shot where the woman proclaims they will live forever and Steffen says "Nobody lives forever", and when the lady turns he has vanished. The comparisons to HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER are unavoidable but DRIFTER is the better film.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on December 31, 2006, 01:55:54 PM
Agreeance about that opening. One thing I did like was the horror ambience the film had and I really like the final shot where the woman proclaims they will live forever and Steffen says "Nobody lives forever", and when the lady turns he has vanished. The comparisons to HIGH PLAINS DRIFTER are unavoidable but DRIFTER is the better film.

Correct on all accounts.  :)

Quote
Check out my sci-fi thread in the off topic discussion and I have a kung fu and sonny chiba thread around somewhere also. If you want give me you email and I can email you my catolog of my collection or get it from FC, as he has it. You'll see everything I've got then.

There are so many things I want to see and so much I've only heard of that I want to see. I just finished a script that I'm preparing to have copyrighted so hopefully if one of them sells I'll be able to have the free time to watch the 100 or so dvds that have piled up. Next week I'm going to purchase 18 Italian crime films. I own 4 and there all pretty good except for BEAST WITH A GUN with Helmet Berger and that "great" actor Richard Harrison.

Alright, thank you, I'll have to search for some of those threads. I'll e-mail Firecracker about that collection, I already have his e-mail address, he's a cool dude.

And I hope your script sells! What's it about?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on December 31, 2006, 02:10:47 PM
Sent you a PM Silenzio.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 01, 2007, 02:39:40 AM
"A CLOUD OF DUST...A CRY OF DEATH...SARTANA IS COMING! ***1/2"


I am shocked and apalled! That film deserves nothing less than four stars! There isn't a dull moment in it!

I thought I knew you.  :-\


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 01, 2007, 02:44:15 AM
he's a cool dude.




I am NOT! Don't lie to the man!

I thought I knew you :-\


"And I hope your script sells! What's it about?"

It's by far the greatest fucking script I have ever read.


COPYRIGHT! COPYRIGHT! COPYRIGHT!


NOW!

 


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 01, 2007, 12:26:52 PM
"A CLOUD OF DUST...A CRY OF DEATH...SARTANA IS COMING! ***1/2"


I am shocked and apalled! That film deserves nothing less than four stars! There isn't a dull moment in it!

I thought I knew you.  :-\

Sorry,  I had to take a 1/2 star away because I think I saw, upon another viewing, a gravel pit in the background.  ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 01, 2007, 12:30:46 PM
Sorry,  I had to take a 1/2 star away because I think I saw, upon another viewing, a gravel pit in the background.  ;)

So?

Doesn't FC's very own " Firearm " take place in a gravel pit area?   ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 02, 2007, 01:18:23 AM
Sorry,  I had to take a 1/2 star away because I think I saw, upon another viewing, a gravel pit in the background.  ;)

Oh well that is totally understandable.


But in all seriousness I don't recall one. In fact it is the only official Sartana movie where the exterior sets are all filmed in Almeria. The others were always filmed in a sandy dump near Cinecitta studios.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 09, 2007, 10:50:18 AM

 Firecracker, please stay away from this topic. Your list will take up the entire page!  ;D

-
Mine will require 2 entire pages ^-^


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 09, 2007, 02:44:32 PM
Mine will require 2 entire pages ^-^

 :o

And here I thought FC was the king of the SW collection.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 10, 2007, 04:47:27 PM
:o

And here I thought FC was the king of the SW collection.
I'm some way over the 200 mark but i strongly suspect that Titoli is reigning at present but thats not at all surprising for our Italian friend is it? ::)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 10, 2007, 04:48:27 PM
I'm some way over the 200 mark but i strongly suspect that Titoli is reigning at present but thats not at all surprising for our Italian friend is it? ::)

He probably saw some pretty obscure ones back in the Italian theaters.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 10, 2007, 04:52:02 PM
He probably saw some pretty obscure ones back in the Italian theaters.
Yes and i guess they show most of the rest on Italian TV as regular as John Wayne films in the USA.Lucky sod ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 10, 2007, 04:53:54 PM
But hey, with the unknown SWs comes the crap like Killer Kid and God's Gun.  ::)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 10, 2007, 04:55:59 PM
But hey, with the unknown SWs comes the crap like Killer Kid and God's Gun.  ::)
Killer Kids currently sitting in my to view pile but i heard it was good? :-\


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 10, 2007, 04:57:34 PM
Killer Kids currently sitting in my to view pile but i heard it was good? :-\

The one with LVC?!?!?!?!


It sucked!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 10, 2007, 05:02:09 PM
The one with LVC?!?!?!?!


It sucked!
I'm thinking of Anthony Steffen-better check this out ::)
Hey you don't mean Kid Vengeance do ya-i'm taking my time before watching that one! ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 10, 2007, 05:03:05 PM
I'm thinking of Anthony Steffen-better check this out ::)
Hey you don't mean Kid Vengeance do ya-i'm taking my time before watching that one! ;D

Oh yeah.

Sorry, wrong movie.

I meant Kid Vengeance.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 10, 2007, 05:05:12 PM
Oh yeah.

Sorry, wrong movie.

I meant Kid Vengeance.
Yeah here we go:-

http://imdb.com/title/tt0269443/

I got this on Firecrackers recommendation so it'll better be good ???



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 10, 2007, 05:07:24 PM
Okay.

I heard of Killer Kid before but I always get it confused with Kid Vengeance.

I never saw Killer Kid, but the latter film I can say from viewing experience is a piece of crap.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 10, 2007, 05:13:15 PM
Okay.

I heard of Killer Kid before but I always get it confused with Kid Vengeance.

I never saw Killer Kid, but the latter film I can say from viewing experience is a piece of crap.
I'm sitting on another (more contemporary) LVC movie from his bad hair days called Squeeze.
Yes,Gods Gun has left me scarred :'( ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: titoli on January 10, 2007, 05:36:38 PM
I collect basically different movies from the other collectors here as I look for italian versions of them and only if I can't find them I turn towards foreign ones. So I don't think I belong in this thread.  I must also confess that I was driven towards starting collecting SW by being member of this forum. So it is a quite recent thing. The mark towards which I'm heading is still a long way from being reached, I doubt I'll ever will and, anyway, that is far in the future. 





Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 10, 2007, 05:47:45 PM
Are you (like Firecracker) intending to obtain EVERY sw ever made?I'm not sure i am because i'm now at the point where diminishing returns are beginning to set in and i'm seeing much more bad films than good,but Johnny Hamlet was a very pleasant surprise the other day so i guess there may still be some gems lurking ::) but the words "needle" and "haystack" do come to mind.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: titoli on January 10, 2007, 05:59:59 PM
The fact is that, in my book, most of movies (especially genre movies) are "bad". I collect SW for sentimental reasons, not for aesthetic ones. That being the case, even the worst of the crop can have elements of interest (an actor I used to like or a gimmick - something you usually could find even in the worst of italian westerns because that was expected from them. Anyway, the goal of watching "every" SW ever produced is at the moment quite illusory as there are a dozen of them that SW researchers do not even know if they were ever actually released theatrically and copies of them are unobtainable even at the italian state institutions (there are two of them) where by law a copy of every movie to be shown in the theatres has to be deposited.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Leone Admirer on January 12, 2007, 05:28:07 PM
Thanks to members of this board, Banjo, Boardwalk and Firecracker mostly, here comes my list of SW

Fistful Of Dollars
For A Few Dollars More
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly
Once Upon A Time In The West
Duck You Sucker
My Name Is Nobody
Nobody Is The Greatest
Bandidos
A Bullet For The General
Companeros
The Forgotten Pistolero
The Man From Nowhere
Sabata
Return Of Sabata
Requiscant
Beyond The Law
The Grand Duel
If You Meet Sartana Prey For Your Death
Django
Django Kill...If you live shoot
Run Man Run
Mannaja
Keoma
Four Of The Apocalypse
Texas Adios
The Big Gundown
Death Rides A Horse
Johnny Yuma
Between God, The Devil and a Winchester
Pistoleros
Day of Anger
The Great Silence
Cemetery without Crosses
Hellbenders
Navajo Joe
Return Of Ringo
The Mercenary
Face to Face
Blindman
And For The Sky A Roof Full Of Stars
The Dirty Outlaws
A Taste Of Killing
Gentleman Killer
The Price Of Power
A Reason To Live, A Reason To Die
They Call Me Trinity
Trinity Is Still My Name

Wow, thats quite a few, probably forgotten some. I was just on my way out to dinner and thought I'd check out the forums and saw this thread. I had to trail through my review thread to remind me and 40 minutes later I finished.

You should get me to list all my Noirs that'd be fun

I'm gonna walk along 5th Avenue and enjoy my dinner.  ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: pixelated on January 12, 2007, 05:40:27 PM
Are you (like Firecracker) intending to obtain EVERY sw ever made?

that is my goal as well  :D



off the top of my head..

El Topo
Face to Face
Navajo Joe
The Mercenary
Black Killer
Dead Aim
Five Man Army
Four of the Apocalypse
A Coffin for the Sheriff
If You Meet Sartana, Pray for Your Death
Sartana Kills Them All
Trinity and Sartana
Shoot the Living and Pray for the Dead
Man, Pride and Vengeance
$10,000 Blood Money
Any Gun Can Play
Vengeance
The Stranger
The Stranger Returns
Long Days Of Vengeance
Johnny Hamlet
The Price of Power
It Can be Done Amigo
Mannaja
Run Man Ran
God's Gun
Kid Vengeance
The Great Silence
Keoma
Django
Django Kill
Django the Bastard
A Noose For Django / No Room to Die
W Django
Sabata trilogy
A Bullet for the General
Companeros
Death Rides a Horse
The Hills Run Red
The Hellbenders
The Grand Duel(horrible quality, holding out for a better version)
Kill and Pray(horrible quality, holding out for a better version)
Boot Hill
Blindman
Man Called Sledge
Take a Hard Ride
My Name is Nobody
Nobody’s the Greatest
FOD/FFDM/GBU/OUATIW/FFOD(of course)

..any taders?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 12, 2007, 06:10:24 PM

The Grand Duel(horrible quality, holding out for a better version)


Tadaaa! (http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/cleef-double-feature-grand-duel-beyond-p-5592.html)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: grandpa_chum on January 12, 2007, 08:51:22 PM
I listed those that I own currently, I did sell Navajo Joe to the g_c I think it was (correct me if I'm wrong) and gave away Aces High to Kermit/Cisco.  :)

I've seen Sabata, Deaf Smith & Johnny Ears,

not to sound ungrateful(because i'm lucky to have it) but I had been wondering lately where the hell i got navajo joe, that was me you sold it to... I'd just forgotten where i'd gotten it.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: cigar joe on January 12, 2007, 09:08:42 PM
 ;) by the way Maine isn'y that far from Radio City are you going to try & make it to the Morricone Concert?  Catch the Amtrak from Boston if you don't want to drive.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 12, 2007, 11:36:59 PM
I'm hijacking this thread and taking it as a thread where i can keep track of every spag I've ever seen and also my own personal SW review thread.

Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

OUATITW *****
GBU *****
FOD ***
FAFDM ****
DYS
*****
Death Rides a Horse *** (will watch in Widescreen soon)
A Bullet for The General ***
Keoma ***
Four of the Apocalypse *
Texas Adios **
The Mercenary ****
The Great Silence ****
Django ****
The Big Gundown ****
The Hellbenders
****
My Name is Nobody *** 1/2
Ace High ** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***
Trinity is Still My Name **
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Face to Face ****
Cemetery Without Crosses
****
Compañeros ****
Django The Bastard ***
W Django * 1/2
Sabata *** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! **



My buddy burned a copy of Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! for me. I'm giving it two stars for now... review to follow. Repeat viewings could raise or lower the score.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on January 13, 2007, 01:24:55 AM
Haha, what more than "must view" is possible, that you mark OUATITW, GBU and DYS with *****? Though I suppose it's reasonable.

My current, funny state (many thanks to Dave Jenkins, my long-time-friend, my dad and Firecracker!)
OUATITW
GBU
FD
The Specialist


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 13, 2007, 09:02:48 AM
Haha, what more than "must view" is possible, that you mark OUATITW, GBU and DYS with *****

I frequently give OUATITW more than necessary, since it's my favorite film. i often give it an 11/10 or so on. I rated these Five out of Four because they're a billion lightyears ahead of all other spaghetti westerns. They're so GREAT!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on January 13, 2007, 09:51:51 AM
I frequently give OUATITW more than necessary, since it's my favorite film. i often give it an 11/10 or so on. I rated these Five out of Four because they're a billion lightyears ahead of all other spaghetti westerns. They're so GREAT!

I understand it, I would probably do the same. I was just wondering, what words would fit those five stars... "must have"?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 13, 2007, 04:00:31 PM
"must have"

Yup. They're probably "must-own."


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on January 14, 2007, 12:25:52 AM
Yup. They're probably "must-own."

DYS still missing in my list... :-\


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 14, 2007, 03:14:52 AM
taking it as a thread where i can keep track of every spag I've ever seen

Ace High
Acquasanta Joe
Adios Sabata
Alive or Preferably Dead
All Out
Among Vultures
And For The Roof A Skyful Of Stars
And God Said To Cain
Any Gun Can Play
Apocalypse Joe
Arizona Colt
Bad Mans River
Bandidos
Beast
Belle Starr Story
Ben and Charlie
Between God Devil & The Winchester
Beyond The Law
Big Gundown
Black Killer
Blindman
Blood At Sundown
Boot Hill
Buddy Goes West
Bullets Don't Argue
Bullet For Sandoval
Bullet For The General
Bury Them Deep
California
Captain Apache
Cemetery Without Crosses
China 9 Liberty 37
Chuck Mool
Cjamango
Coffin For The Sheriff
Coming At Ya
Companeros
Cost Of Dying
Cowards Don't Pray
Crazy Bunch
Cry For Revenge
Cry Onion
Cut Throats Nine
Day Of Anger
Dead Aim
Deaf Smith & Johnny Ears
Death At Owell Rock
Death Played The Flute
Death Rides A Horse
Death Sentence
Death Walks In Laredo
Dirty Outlaws
Django
Django Chalenges Sartana
Django Kill
Django Last Killer
Django Strikes Again
Django The Bastard
Don't Wait Django...Shoot
Drummer Of  Vengeance
Duck You Sucker
Dynamite Joe
Execution
Face To Face
Fasthand
Few Dollars For Django
Fifteen Scaffolds For The Killers
Fighting Fists Of Shanghai Joe
Find A Place To Die
Fistful Of Lead
Fistful Of Dollars
Five Man Army
$5000 On The Ace
For A Few Dollars Less
For A Few Dollars More
Forgotten Pistolero
Fort Yuma Gold
Four Of The Apocalypse
Four Rode Out
Garringo
Gentleman Killer
Get Mean
God Forgives I Don't
Gods Gun
Good,The Bad And The Ugly
Grand Duel
Great Silence
Greatest Robbery In The West
Gunfight At Red Sands
Hands Of A Gunman
Hate For Hate
Hate Thy Neighbour
Have A Good Funeral Sartana Will Pay
Heads You Die Tails I Kill You
Hellbenders
Here We Go Again Providence
Hills Run Red
His Name Was Holy Ghost
His Name Was King
His Name Was Sam Walbush
I Am Sartana Your Angel Of Death
I Came I Saw I Shot
I Want Him Dead
In A Colts Shadow
It Can Be Done Amigo
Jesse & Lester
John The Bastard
Johnny Hamlet
Johnny Yuma
Keoma
Kid Vengeance
Kill Johnny Ringo
Kill Them All & Come Back Alone
Killer Calibre .32
Killer Kid
Lemonade Joe
Light The Fuse Sartana Is Coming
Long Days Of Vengeance
Long Live Your Death
Machine Gun Killers
Man Pride & Vengeance
Man Called Blade
Man Called Noon
Man Called Sledge
Man Of The East
Man Who Cried Revenge
Massacre At Fort Holman
Massacre at Grand Canyon
Massacre Time
Matalo
Mercenary
Minesota Clay
Minute To Pray,A Second To Die
Moment To Kill
Mutiny At Fort Sharp
My Name Is Nobody
My Name Is Pecos
Navajo Joe
Nobodys The Greatest
No Graves On Boot Hill
No Room To Die
On The 3rd Day Arrived A Crow
Once Upon A Time In The West
One After The Other
One Silver Dollar
$100,000 For Ringo
Payment In Blood
Pistol For 100 Coffins
Pistol For Ringo
Pistol Packin' Preacher
Price Of Death
Price Of Power
Raise Your Hands,Dead Man
Red Blood Yellow Gold
Red Coat
Return Of Hallelujah
Return Of Ringo
Return Of Sabata
Requiescant
Rewards Yours,The Mans Mine
Ringo:Face Of Revenge
Ringo & His Golden Pistol
Rojo
Run Man Run
Ruthless Four
Sabata
Sartana
Sartana Does Not Forgive
Sartana In The Valley Of Death
Sartana Kills Them All
Seven Dollars On The Red
Seven Guns For The McGregors
Seven Women For The McGregors
Shango
Shoot The Living,Pray For The Dead
Sometimes Life Is Tough Eh Providence?
Son Of A Gunfighter
Sonny & Jed
Specialists
Starblack
Stranger & The Gunfighter
Stranger In Japan
Stranger In El Paso
Stranger In Town
Stranger Returns
Sugar Colt
Take A Hard Ride
Taste For Killing
Tepepa
$100,000 Blood Money
Texas Adios
Texican
They Call Him Cemetery
Ther Call Him Veritas
They Call Him Trinity
Thirteenth Is A Judas
Thirty Winchesters For El Diablo
This Man Can't Die
Those Dirty Dogs
To Hell And Back
Today Its Me Tommorow Its You
Train For Durango
Tramplers
Treasure of Silver Lake
Treasure Of The Aztecs
Trinity & Sartana Are Coming
Trinity Is Still My Name
Ugly Ones
Vengeance
Vengeance Is Mine
Vengeance Trail
Viva Django
Viva Maria
Viva Sabata
Wanted
What Am I Doing In The Middle Of A Revolution?
White Commanche
White,The Yellow & The Black
Winnetou The Warrior
W.Django

Just added Bullets Don't Argue and Seven Women For The McGregors.
I've also had to change Django Shoots First to Don't Shoot Django...Wait  :-[


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on January 14, 2007, 03:33:29 AM
 :o :o :o

How could you remember it and create such list?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 14, 2007, 09:15:32 AM
Good Idea:-
Ace High
Acquasanta Joe
Adios Sabata
Alive or Preferably Dead
All Out
Among Vultures
And For The Roof A Skyful Of Stars
And God Said To Cain
Any Gun Can Play
Apocalypse Joe
Arizona Colt
Bad Mans River
Bandidos
Beast
Belle Starr Story
Ben and Charlie
Between God Devil & The Winchester
Beyond The Law
Big Gundown
Black Killer
Blindman
Blood At Sundown
Boot Hill
Buddy Goes West
Bullet For Sandoval
Bullet For The General
Bury Them Deep
California
Captain Apache
Cemetery Without Crosses
China 9 Liberty 37
Chuck Mool
Cjamango
Coffin For The Sheriff
Coming At Ya
Companeros
Cost Of Dying
Cowards Don't Pray
Crazy Bunch
Cry For Revenge
Cry Onion
Cut Throats Nine
Day Of Anger
Dead Aim
Deaf Smith & Johnny Ears
Death At Owell Rock
Death Played The Flute
Death Rides A Horse
Death Sentence
Death Walks In Laredo
Dirty Outlaws
Django
Django Chalenges Sartana
Django Kill
Django Last Killer
Django Shoots First
Django Strikes Again
Django The Bastard
Drummer Of  Vengeance
Duck You Sucker
Dynamite Joe
Execution
Face To Face
Fasthand
Few Dollars For Django
Fifteen Scaffolds For The Killers
Fighting Fists Of Shanghai Joe
Find A Place To Die
Fistful Of Lead
Fistful Of Dollars
Five Man Army
$5000 On The Ace
For A Few Dollars Less
For A Few Dollars More
Forgotten Pistolero
Fort Yuma Gold
Four Of The Apocalypse
Four Rode Out
Garringo
Gentleman Killer
Get Mean
God Forgives I Don't
Gods Gun
Good,The Bad And The Ugly
Grand Duel
Great Silence
Greatest Robbery In The West
Gunfight At Red Sands
Hands Of A Gunman
Hate For Hate
Hate Thy Neighbour
Have A Good Funeral Sartana Will Pay
Heads You Die Tails I Kill You
Hellbenders
Here We Go Again Providence
Hills Run Red
His Name Was Holy Ghost
His Name Was King
His Name Was Sam Walbush
I Am Sartana Your Angel Of Death
I Came I Saw I Shot
I Want Him Dead
In A Colts Shadow
It Can Be Done Amigo
Jesse & Lester
John The Bastard
Johnny Hamlet
Johnny Yuma
Keoma
Kid Vengeance
Kill Johnny Ringo
Kill Them All & Come Back Alone
Killer Calibre .32
Killer Kid
Lemonade Joe
Light The Fuse Sartana Is Coming
Long Days Of Vengeance
Long Live Your Death
Machine Gun Killers
Man Pride & Vengeance
Man Called Blade
Man Called Noon
Man Called Sledge
Man Of The East
Man Who Cried Revenge
Massacre At Fort Holman
Massacre at Grand Canyon
Massacre Time
Matalo
Mercenary
Minesota Clay
Minute To Pray,A Second To Die
Moment To Kill
Mutiny At Fort Sharp
My Name Is Nobody
My Name Is Pecos
Navajo Joe
Nobodys The Greatest
No Graves On Boot Hill
No Room To Die
On The 3rd Day Arrived A Crow
Once Upon A Time In The West
One After The Other
One Silver Dollar
$100,000 For Ringo
Payment In Blood
Pistol For 100 Coffins
Pistol For Ringo
Pistol Packin' Preacher
Price Of Death
Price Of Power
Raise Your Hands,Dead Man
Red Blood Yellow Gold
Red Coat
Return Of Hallelujah
Return Of Ringo
Return Of Sabata
Requiescant
Rewards Yours,The Mans Mine
Ringo:Face Of Revenge
Ringo & His Golden Pistol
Rojo
Run Man Run
Ruthless Four
Sabata
Sartana
Sartana Does Not Forgive
Sartana In The Valley Of Death
Sartana Kills Them All
Seven Dollars On The Red
Seven Guns For The McGregors
Shango
Shoot The Living,Pray For The Dead
Sometimes Life Is Tough Eh Providence?
Son Of A Gunfighter
Sonny & Jed
Specialists
Starblack
Stranger & The Gunfighter
Stranger In Japan
Stranger In El Paso
Stranger In Town
Stranger Returns
Sugar Colt
Take A Hard Ride
Taste For Killing
Tepepa
$100,000 Blood Money
Texas Adios
Texican
They Call Him Cemetery
Ther Call Him Veritas
They Call Him Trinity
Thirteenth Is A Judas
Thirty Winchesters For El Diablo
This Man Can't Die
Those Dirty Dogs
To Hell And Back
Today Its Me Tommorow Its You
Train For Durango
Tramplers
Treasure of Silver Lake
Treasure Of The Aztecs
Trinity & Sartana Are Coming
Trinity Is Still My Name
Ugly Ones
Vengeance
Vengeance Is Mine
Vengeance Trail
Viva Django
Viva Maria
Viva Sabata
Wanted
What Am I Doing In The Middle Of A Revolution?
White Commanche
White,The Yellow & The Black
Winnetou The Warrior
W.Django







Wow.   :o


That's some list!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 14, 2007, 10:25:50 AM
:o :o :o

How could you remember it and create such list?
No problem really,i went through Weissers book ticking off and listing  the sw's in alphabetical order.I'm sure Boardwalk Angels a little ahead of me and absolutely certain that Titoli is way ahead!!
   I have a feeling that Sundance may possess more than a fistful too :)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 14, 2007, 10:50:21 AM
Yeah Titoli, make your list!  ;)

That would be interesting.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 14, 2007, 10:53:09 AM
Yeah Titoli, make your list!  ;)

That would be interesting.
Yes if you don't mind reading 240+ titles in Italian ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 14, 2007, 10:57:51 AM
I want to hear all the unknown spaghetti titles. Those are usually the best ( They smelled the Strange, exciting & Dangerous Scent of dollars...that's just classic  ;D ).


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 14, 2007, 11:00:52 AM
I want to hear all the unknown spaghetti titles. Those are usually the best ( They smelled the Strange, exciting & Dangerous Scent of dollars...that's just classic  ;D ).
I'll try and look some up for you Peacemaker-but i'm just about to watch the World Darts final-c'mon Wolfie.See ya later ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on January 14, 2007, 11:22:26 AM
No problem really,i went through Weissers book ticking off and listing  the sw's in alphabetical order.

Not having an access to that book, I never thought about it. ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 14, 2007, 11:25:24 AM
Not having an access to that book, I never thought about it. ;D

That book is full of errors.

The guy who wrote it put false information on SWs in his book.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on January 14, 2007, 11:42:51 AM
It's definitelly more interesting to learn about the films on such forum like this. ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: titoli on January 14, 2007, 01:51:38 PM
Quote
Yes if you don't mind reading 240+ titles in Italian

You're absolutely right. If one wants to get acquainted with those exotic titles he just has to go to the italian SWdb link I always include in my mini reviews. Also, mine is not a remarkable collection by italian collectors standards. I've just begun.  I could post it only after and if I ever will reach the "500" mark. But in a way I'm already being posting it by my reviews.



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 14, 2007, 05:36:39 PM
You're absolutely right. If one wants to get acquainted with those exotic titles he just has to go to the italian SWdb link I always include in my mini reviews. Also, mine is not a remarkable collection by italian collectors standards. I've just begun.  I could post it only after and if I ever will reach the "500" mark. But in a way I'm already being posting it by my reviews.



Titoli please tell us the crazy unknown SW names.

I like the crazy names like THEY SMELLED THE STRANGE, EXCITING, AND DANGEROUS SCENT OF DOLLARS!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 15, 2007, 01:55:07 AM
I haven't tooken part in this yet because unlike AC I have not catalogged my stuff so I have no intention of going through my memory banks for titles.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 15, 2007, 08:25:07 AM
I haven't tooken part in this yet because unlike AC I have not catalogged my stuff so I have no intention of going through my memory banks for titles.

Your list will be as big as Banjo's.   ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 15, 2007, 10:41:19 AM
Your list will be as big as Banjo's.   ;)


Not quite...he's got quite a few more titles than I do at this point.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 15, 2007, 10:42:25 AM

Not quite...he's got quite a few more titles than I do at this point.

Oh yeah, I remember him telling me that.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 16, 2007, 07:41:13 AM
Your list will be as big as Banjo's.   ;)
His list is as big as it is thanks to Banjo ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 16, 2007, 02:51:29 PM
His list is as big as it is thanks to Banjo ;D

 :o


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 23, 2007, 10:03:45 PM
I ordered two spaghetti westerns from xploitedcinema almost exactly one month ago. It didn't ship until the tenth of January though, because one of the film was out of stock and they wouldn't ship either until it got back in stock.

Anyways, the films I purchased were Death Rides a Horse and Death Sentence to test out the region free dvd player i got for christmas. I had seen Death Rides a Horse, but i was only familiar with the "Shod-to-Shite" pan-and-scan version. Here were my first reactions to this film:

Death Rides a Horse

This, needless to say, is a classic spaghetti western not to be missed. The direction by Giulio Petroni is all-around solid. I have no real complaints about it in that aspect. The score is awesome (thank you Ennio) and Lee Van Cleef (as usual) is badass. He makes any spaghetti western he's in better by his moustache alone. Note that he shaved his moustache in Captain Apache. Also note that Captain Apache is widely considered to suck ass (this relationship of "awesome" to "moustache" can not be a coincidence).  I'm going to have to do the typical thing and complain about the one thing about this movie that just doesn't do it for me: John Phillip Law. He's too wooden. I'm glad there was actually more focus on Cleef's character than Law's, Cleef gets much more screen time. Other than that, everything's great. The plot, though not the most original thing, is good, with some classic dialogue courtesy of mister Luciano Vincenzoni, who's work with Leone is unforgettable. And Law's gunplay is really good. In my top ten (but then again that's not saying much out of only 25 non-Leone spaghettis). I would go on, but most people here have seen this one anyway.

Death Sentence review to follow tomorrow.







This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *1/2
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
My Name is Nobody *** 1/2
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***
Trinity is Still My Name **
W Django * 1/2




Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 24, 2007, 05:39:09 AM
Ace High
Acquasanta Joe
Adios Sabata
Alive or Preferably Dead
All Out
Among Vultures
And For The Roof A Skyful Of Stars
And God Said To Cain
Any Gun Can Play
Apocalypse Joe
Arizona Colt
Bad Mans River
Bandidos
Beast
Belle Starr Story
Ben and Charlie
Between God Devil & The Winchester
Beyond The Law
Big Gundown
Black Killer
Blindman
Blood At Sundown
Boot Hill
Buddy Goes West
Bullets Don't Argue
Bullet For Sandoval
Bullet For The General
Bury Them Deep
California
Captain Apache
Cemetery Without Crosses
China 9 Liberty 37
Chuck Mool
Cjamango
Coffin For The Sheriff
Coming At Ya
Companeros
Cost Of Dying
Cowards Don't Pray
Crazy Bunch
Cry For Revenge
Cry Onion
Cut Throats Nine
Day Of Anger
Dead Aim
Deaf Smith & Johnny Ears
Death At Owell Rock
Death Played The Flute
Death Rides A Horse
Death Sentence
Death Walks In Laredo
Dirty Outlaws
Django
Django Chalenges Sartana
Django Kill
Django Last Killer
Django Strikes Again
Django The Bastard
Don't Wait Django...Shoot
Drummer Of  Vengeance
Duck You Sucker
Dynamite Joe
Execution
Face To Face
Fasthand
Few Dollars For Django
Fifteen Scaffolds For The Killers
Fighting Fists Of Shanghai Joe
Find A Place To Die
Fistful Of Lead
Fistful Of Dollars
Five Man Army
$5000 On The Ace
For A Few Dollars Less
For A Few Dollars More
Forgotten Pistolero
Fort Yuma Gold
Four Of The Apocalypse
Four Rode Out
Garringo
Gentleman Killer
Get Mean
God Forgives I Don't
Gods Gun
Good,The Bad And The Ugly
Grand Duel
Great Silence
Greatest Robbery In The West
Gunfight At Red Sands
Hands Of A Gunman
Hate For Hate
Hate Thy Neighbour
Have A Good Funeral Sartana Will Pay
Heads You Die Tails I Kill You
Hellbenders
Here We Go Again Providence
Hills Run Red
His Name Was Holy Ghost
His Name Was King
His Name Was Sam Walbush
I Am Sartana Your Angel Of Death
I Came I Saw I Shot
I Want Him Dead
In A Colts Shadow
It Can Be Done Amigo
Jesse & Lester
John The Bastard
Johnny Hamlet
Johnny Yuma
Keoma
Kid Vengeance
Kill Johnny Ringo
Kill Them All & Come Back Alone
Killer Calibre .32
Killer Kid
Lemonade Joe
Light The Fuse Sartana Is Coming
Long Days Of Vengeance
Long Live Your Death
Machine Gun Killers
Man Pride & Vengeance
Man Called Blade
Man Called Noon
Man Called Sledge
Man Of The East
Man Who Cried Revenge
Massacre At Fort Holman
Massacre at Grand Canyon
Massacre Time
Matalo
Mercenary
Minesota Clay
Minute To Pray,A Second To Die
Moment To Kill
Mutiny At Fort Sharp
My Name Is Nobody
My Name Is Pecos
Navajo Joe
Nobodys The Greatest
No Graves On Boot Hill
No Room To Die
On The 3rd Day Arrived A Crow
Once Upon A Time In The West
One After The Other
One Silver Dollar
$100,000 For Ringo
Payment In Blood
Pistol For 100 Coffins
Pistol For Ringo
Pistol Packin' Preacher
Price Of Death
Price Of Power
Raise Your Hands,Dead Man
Red Blood Yellow Gold
Red Coat
Return Of Hallelujah
Return Of Ringo
Return Of Sabata
Requiescant
Rewards Yours,The Mans Mine
Ringo:Face Of Revenge
Ringo & His Golden Pistol
Rojo
Run Man Run
Ruthless Four
Sabata
Sartana
Sartana Does Not Forgive
Sartana In The Valley Of Death
Sartana Kills Them All
Seven Dollars On The Red
Seven Guns For The McGregors
Seven Women For The McGregors
Shango
Shoot The Living,Pray For The Dead
Sometimes Life Is Tough Eh Providence?
Son Of A Gunfighter
Sonny & Jed
Specialists
Starblack
Stranger & The Gunfighter
Stranger In Japan
Stranger In El Paso
Stranger In Town
Stranger Returns
Sugar Colt
Take A Hard Ride
Taste For Killing
Tepepa
$100,000 Blood Money
Texas Adios
Texican
They Call Him Cemetery
Ther Call Him Veritas
They Call Him Trinity
Thirteenth Is A Judas
Thirty Winchesters For El Diablo
This Man Can't Die
Those Dirty Dogs
To Hell And Back
Today Its Me Tommorow Its You
Train For Durango
Tramplers
Treasure of Silver Lake
Treasure Of The Aztecs
Trinity & Sartana Are Coming
Trinity Is Still My Name
Ugly Ones
Vengeance
Vengeance Is Mine
Vengeance Trail
Viva Django
Viva Maria
Viva Sabata
Wanted
What Am I Doing In The Middle Of A Revolution?
White Commanche
White,The Yellow & The Black
Winnetou The Warrior
W.Django

Just added Bullets Don't Argue and Seven Women For The McGregors.
I've also had to change Django Shoots First to Don't Shoot Django...Wait 


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 24, 2007, 07:16:19 AM
Death Sentence

Wow. Was this the best non-Leone spaghetti western I've ever seen? It just could be. I was blown away by this spaghetti western last night. I watched it essentially back-to-back with Death Rides a Horse, stopping inbetween only to eat dinner, and i can tell you for sure, this is the better spaghetti western. It makes it into my top 5 (maybe even 3). In fact, it's a contender for my new all-time favorite.

It's a similar plot to Death Rides a Horse: some dude wants revenge on four guys, and most of them hold well-established positions of authority. The first being a land-owner, the second being a card shark, the third being a preacher (damndest preacher ya ever did saw) and the fourth being.... Tomas Milian. The film focuses not so much on the lead character, Cash (or Django in the German dub), played by Robin Clarke, who looks the part superbly (the director describes him as "a devil with an angel face"). Also notable is that the lead character is an avid milk drinker. The first three chapters are awesome, well directed, damn near flawless. It's the fourth chapter that is keeping me from unhesitatingly call this the greatest non-Leone spaghetti western ever made. And if one chapter is poor, well, that makes 25% of the film poor. But, I'm not calling this last chapter bad, just bizarre (and not really in a good way). Basically, we get Tomas "Honey-Glazed" Milian playing some epileptic Albino with a fetish (and I mean FETISH) for Gold coins and blonde girls (because her hair reminds him of the gold). Think like Tuco's obsession for gold.... times a thousand. This chapter doesn't seem to hold up to the others... too bad. I won't say that this chapter makes or breaks the movie yet, though, I'll for after repeat viewings.

The main vocal theme song is really good, and the rest of the score I really dig. It's more low-key than your usual Spaghetti music, and it gives the film a more unique look (not like it wasn't unique enough already).

As for the dvd itself, it's great. Basically we have great packaging. I always loved the cover picture (seen below) but once you open it up inside there's a lot more cool package art. Also, we have the German dub, and the original Italian dub. The English subtitles have an occasional spelling mistake, like "Cemetery" becomes "Cemetary" repeatedly in the film . This is hardly a distraction though, I think the subs are darn good. Here's the thing, though, the English subtitles are a translation of the German audio, not the italian. So, if you watch it in Italian audio (like i did) then the subs don't always come up exactly when the person is saying something, because in the German dub they may have started to say it earlier, you catch my drift? The dvd also has a lot of extras (sweet!). It has two different trailers, an English version of the Opening credit sequence, a making-of documentary (in english) and an audio commentary track (ALSO in english!!!). This is officially the first non-Leone spaghetti I've seen with a commentary track. I should watch the film with commentary sometime.

Here's a picture of the awesome packaging:

(http://www.jpc.de/image/cover/front/0/2204415.jpg)



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 24, 2007, 11:27:46 AM
It's the fourth chapter that is keeping me from unhesitatingly call this the greatest non-Leone spaghetti western ever made. And if one chapter is poor, well, that makes 25% of the film poor. But, I'm not calling this last chapter bad, just bizarre (and not really in a good way). Basically, we get Tomas "Honey-Glazed" Milian playing some epileptic Albino with a fetish (and I mean FETISH) for Gold coins and blonde girls (because her hair reminds him of the gold). Think like Tuco's obsession for gold.... times a thousand. This chapter doesn't seem to hold up to the others... too bad. I won't say that this chapter makes or breaks the movie yet, though, I'll for after repeat viewings.





I admit Milian's demise isn't really the most creative of the other three but I thought that was the most interesting and bizarre chapter.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 12:08:01 PM
Glad you posted that review for Death Sentence. I've been eager to see it lately.

Looks very much like Vengeance. Tomas Milian's character reminds me of Mendoza.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 24, 2007, 12:30:03 PM
Ace High ** 1/2
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *1/2
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
My Name is Nobody *** 1/2
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***
Trinity is Still My Name **
W Django * 1/2
Spot on ratings Silenzio though i don't dig CWC as much as you do ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 24, 2007, 12:34:33 PM
It barely gets two ** from me if I even bothered to include it. The finale was good though.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 12:41:07 PM
It barely gets two ** from me if I even bothered to include it. The finale was good though.

You're reffering to Death Sentence?

If so, how come you don't like it? I'm just curious. Most SW fans think it's one of the best.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 24, 2007, 12:51:44 PM
You're reffering to Death Sentence?

If so, how come you don't like it? I'm just curious. Most SW fans think it's one of the best.

no he's talking about CWC.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 12:53:27 PM
no he's talking about CWC.

Oh.

Never saw it.  :'(


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 24, 2007, 01:10:21 PM
Oh.

Never saw it.  :'(


It's excellent! O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 01:11:25 PM

It's excellent! O0

So I've heard from many people.

Silenzio offered to send me either this or Face to Face, and I chose Face to Face.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 24, 2007, 01:12:57 PM
So I've heard from many people.

Silenzio offered to send me either this or Face to Face, and I chose Face to Face.


don't trust that Silenzio! He sent me anthrax in the mail last week!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 01:17:09 PM

don't trust that Silenzio! He sent me anthrax in the mail last week!

 :o


Anthrax is not healthy.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 24, 2007, 01:19:38 PM
So I've heard from many people.

Silenzio offered to send me either this or Face to Face, and I chose Face to Face.

The best choice O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 01:21:20 PM
The best choice O0

That's what I thought.

FtF looks like a great film, while CWC looks more like just an entertaining SW.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 24, 2007, 01:26:07 PM
It's not even entertaining. Hardly any action at all. The story is fine but it just meanders for what seems like an eternity in its brief 90 minute running time.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 24, 2007, 01:34:03 PM
It's not even entertaining. Hardly any action at all. The story is fine but it just meanders for what seems like an eternity in its brief 90 minute running time.

I think it's a classic!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 24, 2007, 01:36:24 PM
The GREAT SILENCE is a classic. CEMETERY WITHOUT CROSSES tries and fails to ape that films atmosphere and sense of dread.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 01:37:44 PM
Well, now I know what to expect from CWC.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 24, 2007, 01:44:13 PM
The GREAT SILENCE is a classic.

I'll give you a moment of GREAT SILENCE when I kill you and attend your funeral! >:D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 24, 2007, 01:44:47 PM
Don't let that stop you from seeing it. You may like it. Just be forewarned.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 01:46:00 PM
Don't let that stop you from seeing it. You may like it. Just be forewarned.

I'll still watch it.

Most people said The Genius sucked, but I took a risk and ended up liking it alot.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 24, 2007, 01:51:22 PM
THE GENIUS is a bungled mess but I'd watch it again before CWC.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 01:53:03 PM
I must admit the editing is very sloppy at times.

But considering they were using nothing but alternate takes after the original negative was stolen is impressive.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 24, 2007, 01:55:40 PM
For a portion of the film anyways. Too many behind the scenes scandals and snafus ruined this one.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 24, 2007, 03:48:52 PM
Face to Face is the right choice. It's my second favorite spaghetti right now. But, Cemetery Without Crosses is one of my all time favorites as well.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 24, 2007, 04:37:22 PM
The GREAT SILENCE is a classic. CEMETERY WITHOUT CROSSES tries and fails to ape that films atmosphere and sense of dread.
Exactly what i've been telling Firecracker for the last few months ;D
Peacemaker-great choice! ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 24, 2007, 04:40:21 PM
Peacemaker-great choice! ;)


Thanks.

I was also thinking about Death Sentence, but I'll just stick with FtF.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 24, 2007, 04:44:40 PM
Looking forward to seeing what both Cigar Joe and Titoli make of Death Sentence ::)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 24, 2007, 04:50:10 PM
Looking forward to seeing what both Cigar Joe and Titoli make of Death Sentence ::)

I (attempted) to watch part of the film with the audio commentary. sweet jesus it is bad. It makes me really appreciate the commentary tracks like the one on DYS, where Frayling is full of a million little facts about the production and Sergio Leone in general. This was basically the director describing what was happening on the screen. The opening scene...

"This is CASH! He is the protagonist. And now a shot directly into the sun. Now it is a wide shot, so he is that little black speck on the sand dune... and there is the man he has been chasing. Diaz!"


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 24, 2007, 04:56:07 PM
I (attempted) to watch part of the film with the audio commentary. sweet jesus it is bad. It makes me really appreciate the commentary tracks like the one on DYS, where Frayling is full of a million little facts about the production and Sergio Leone in general. This was basically the director describing what was happening on the screen. The opening scene...

"This is CASH! He is the protagonist. And now a shot directly into the sun. Now it is a wide shot, so he is that little black speck on the sand dune... and there is the man he has been chasing. Diaz!"
I know what you mean.A real effort-pretty much like the commentaries on the GBU and OUATIA SE's. :(
Its great to see an obscure sw getting so much good press though :)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 24, 2007, 04:59:27 PM
I know what you mean.A real effort-pretty much like the commentaries on the GBU and OUATIA SE's. :(
Its great to see an obscure sw getting so much good press though :)

Don't own the GBU SE, but i agree with you with what I've heard of the OUATIA commentary. I basically started watching the second disc with commentary, and I heard some stuff about Max being the real american man, after about five minutes i wanted to commit vehicular homicide (and I don't even have a driver's license).

And Death Sentence done deserves good press.   O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 24, 2007, 05:04:28 PM
I'm glad to see you only gave 4 Of The Apocalypse one star(solely for Milian as Chaco i take it?) because strangely this sw seems to be well thought of overall on these pages.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 24, 2007, 05:15:43 PM
I'm glad to see you only gave 4 Of The Apocalypse one star(solely for Milian as Chaco i take it?) because strangely this sw seems to be well thought of overall on these pages.

Honestly, I can't go into great detail while I hated it. I stopped it in the first 40 minutes. Have I told the story about how even my brother (who shows no interest in spags) came in and said...

"What the hell. This is not a real man's spaghetti western."


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: cigar joe on January 24, 2007, 05:49:11 PM
I think the "Bunny Song" and the 70's bubble gum music ruins a lot of it.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 24, 2007, 11:21:44 PM
I think the "Bunny Song" and the 70's bubble gum music ruins a lot of it.



I quite enjoy "4 of the apocalypse". Though I see why others wouldn't like it.

The big problem with it is that half hour in the snow town :(


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on January 25, 2007, 12:53:33 AM
I thought I have seen only a few SWs, but when I counted, I surprised myself.

If any of the following English titles are funny, please forgive me. I had to depend on the data of a Japanese book “Everything About Macaroni Westerns” since I know only Japanese titles for some.

•   All Leone westerns, of course
•   The Three Ruthless Ones
•   One Silver Dollar
•   A Stranger in Sacramento
•   A Pistol for Ringo
•   The Man from Canyon City
•   Return of Ringo
•   Adios Gringo
•   Duel at Rio Grande
•   Django
•   Massacre Time
•   Arizona Colt
•   Navajo Joe
•   Quien Sabe?
•   The Bounty Killer
•   One Dollar in the Teeth (aka Stranger)
•   Johnny Oro
•   Texas Addio
•   The Coffin of Sheriff
•   Why Go On Killing?
•   El Rojo
•   Tre Colpi di Winchester di Ringo
•   Johnny Yuma
•   Death Rides a Horse
•   Face to Face
•   Man, Pride, Revenge
•   Fort Yuma Gold
•   Day of Anger
•   Days of Vengeance
•   Ballad for a Gunfighter
•   Ten Thousand Dollars for a Massacre
•   The Big Gundown
•   Today, We Kill, Tomorrow We Die
•   Il Grande Silenzio
•   A Sky Full of Stars for a Roof
•   One After the Other
•   Beyond the Law
•   The Mercenary
•   Rattler Kid
•   Sabata
•   The Five Men Army
•   The Price of Power
•   Companeros
•   Indio Black
•   The Great Duel
•   My Name is Nobody
•   Django Strikes Again

I have seen some more but I can't find either original or English titles for those.



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 25, 2007, 12:56:33 AM
What did you think of "The Grand Duel" Sanjuro?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on January 25, 2007, 01:06:05 AM
I'm sorry to say but I wasn't so impressed with "The Grand Duel". The character of LVC is like other characters of him you've seen before. The music is haunting but it does not have a strong personality. The final duel is not dramatic enough. Over all, it is not satisfactory to me.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 25, 2007, 01:29:30 AM
I stopped it in the first 40 minutes.
Hey you missed the worst of it! ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on January 25, 2007, 01:31:15 AM
I'm sorry to say but I wasn't so impressed with "The Grand Duel". The character of LVC is like other characters of him you've seen before. The music is haunting but it does not have a strong personality. The final duel is not dramatic enough. Over all, it is not satisfactory to me.
I like Grand Duel but i agree it doesn't stand up too well for repeated viewings.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Cusser on January 25, 2007, 06:43:13 AM
I also just viewed The Grand Duel for the first time, rate as "OK only", but don't really have too much desire to view it again.  Stuff like this just reinforces the quality, the magic, the mystique of the Leone films.  There a few other spaghetti films which come close, but I don't count Grand Duel as one.  And that one brother (gender bender) in the all-white outfit - REALLY creepy.  Beyond the Law was also one I probably won't watch again.  Next to rewatch for me will be Sabata - made a DVD from Encore Westerns - no commercials (but not letterboxed).


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 25, 2007, 10:29:41 AM
I enjoyed GRAND DUEL quite a bit. I've only seen it once though, I've way too many other things to see first but what I enjoy most in this one are the extravagant action scenes, the soundtrack and the quirky characters. Santi really seemed to be trying to mix things up a bit here with what was obviously a low budget (the case with most of these movies) and it's what you do with what you've got that counts.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on February 03, 2007, 11:14:51 PM
Blindman

Great little spaghetti western starring Tony Anthony and Ringo Starr's nose. Anthony plays a blind gunslinger who delivers poetic one-liners whenever the opportunity comes up. Basically, the Blindman wants to deliver 50 order brides to prospectors, but he gets boned by his partners. He spends the movie trying to track down his fifty women and sell 'em to the miners, for a thousand bucks a pop. I found this plot quite imaginative by Spaghetti Western standards as it did not have anything to do with either A) revenge or B) some guy wandering into a town and making as much money as possible by playing all sides against each other. Also, the music is really great, and quite psychedelic. We get the standard whip-cracks and choirs singing lord knows what, but to add interest there's some great sitar and other "out-there" instruments. The dialogue's great, Tony's one-liners are classic: "Every night i kneel down and pray to the lord. I ask the lord 'Who are my friends?' And every night it's the same thing: he doesn't answer." All around solid.

***1/2.






This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *1/2
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
My Name is Nobody *** 1/2
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***
Trinity is Still My Name **
W Django * 1/2





Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on February 04, 2007, 07:33:23 AM
Your list is increasing by the day.  O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on February 04, 2007, 08:41:19 AM
Yeah, and with all the trades I have going on (and probably some purchasing too) you can expect the list to jump pretty soon.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Tim on February 04, 2007, 01:33:51 PM
  Well, my list ain't as big as most of the ones posted already, but here goes along with some I've seen but don't own.  I know I'm missing some, they'll come to me at some point in the middle of the night when I'm sleeping.

GBU
FAFDM
FOD
OUATITW
DYS
Django
The Great Silence
The Mercenary
Companeros
Navajo Joe
Death Rides a Horse
Deaf Smith and Johnny Ears
The Five Man Army
El Condor
Red Sun
A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die
Django Kill
Beyond the Law
Sabata
Adios, Sabata
Savage Guns
My Name is Nobody


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on February 04, 2007, 02:15:44 PM
Good list, Tim. But isn't "Red Sun" a French Western?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Tim on February 04, 2007, 02:49:24 PM
Quote
Good list, Tim. But isn't "Red Sun" a French Western?

  I think you're right, Sanjuro.  I wouldn't be surprised if it got backing from a lot of countries, and at imdb.com it is listed as "Soleil Rouge" (the French title) so it looks like you're right, amigo.

  And I forgot A Man Called Sledge, although I think this is another one with US backing, at least some.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on February 05, 2007, 01:30:05 AM
This is my updated list.

•   All Leone westerns, of course
•   The Three Ruthless Ones
•   One Silver Dollar
•   A Stranger in Sacramento
•   A Pistol for Ringo
•   The Man from Canyon City
•   Return of Ringo
•   Adios Gringo
•   Duel at Rio Grande
•   Django
•   Massacre Time
•   Arizona Colt
•   Navajo Joe
•   Quien Sabe?
•   The Bounty Killer
•   One Dollar in the Teeth (aka Stranger)
•   Johnny Oro
•   Texas Addio
•   The Coffin of Sheriff
•   Why Go On Killing?
•   El Rojo
•   Tre Colpi di Winchester di Ringo
•   Johnny Yuma
•   Death Rides a Horse
•   Face to Face
•   Man, Pride, Revenge
•   Fort Yuma Gold
•   Day of Anger
•   Days of Vengeance
•   Ballad for a Gunfighter
•   Ten Thousand Dollars for a Massacre
•   The Big Gundown
•   Today, We Kill, Tomorrow We Die
•   Il Grande Silenzio
•   A Sky Full of Stars for a Roof
•   One After the Other
•   Beyond the Law
•   The Mercenary
•   Rattler Kid
•   Sabata
•   The Five Men Army
•   The Price of Power
•   Companeros
•   Indio Black
•   The Grand Duel
•   My Name is Nobody
•   Django Strikes Again
•   Minnesota Clay
•   Any Gun Can Play
•   A Pistol for One Hundred Graves (This is my first Peter Lee Lawrence SW as his starring role film*, but I was shocked to learn that he committed suicide at age 29!)

*He was in FFDM but he was not credited.




Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on February 09, 2007, 06:33:45 PM
Massacre Time
This one was disappointing, I'm glad i realized it was available on NetFlix before I went out and bought it. There's really nothing at all special about this one. It was pretty bland, the photography wasn't special... the music wasn't special... not even Nero was special... the villain wasn't special. The only good bit was the last twenty minutes, and even that wasn't THAT good, just simple action.

**







Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *1/2
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody *** 1/2
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***
Trinity is Still My Name **
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on February 10, 2007, 01:31:57 PM
Massacre Time
This one was disappointing, I'm glad i realized it was available on NetFlix before I went out and bought it. There's really nothing at all special about this one. It was pretty bland, the photography wasn't special... the music wasn't special... not even Nero was special... the villain wasn't special. The only good bit was the last twenty minutes, and even that wasn't THAT good, just simple action.

**




you sure you didn't see a cut version for this one? I don't know anybody in the world who would review this movie without mentioning it's awesome whipping scene an hour into the movie.

This gets 100% from me.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: pixelated on February 10, 2007, 01:36:36 PM
you sure you didn't see a cut version for this one? I don't know anybody in the world who would review this movie without mentioning it's awesome whipping scene an hour into the movie.

This gets 100% from me.

doesn't look like its cut...   http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70060078&trkid=90529

Widescreen Anamorphic 1.85:1 and has both italian and english audio tracks
unrated
running time 92 minutes(IMDB states running time is 85 min)

review from the site states "The DVD video quality is quite poor, but still watchable. I'm assuming it's uncut since nothing seemed trimmed."



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on February 10, 2007, 01:38:20 PM
doesn't look like its cut...   http://www.netflix.com/MovieDisplay?movieid=70060078&trkid=90529





Then there is no excuse. Silenzio should be committed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB5ekVklcSc


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on February 10, 2007, 03:04:06 PM
Massacre Time was pretty lame. But the stats are wrong on that dvd thing, there was no Italian audio.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: pixelated on February 10, 2007, 03:08:32 PM
Massacre Time was pretty lame. But the stats are wrong on that dvd thing, there was no Italian audio.


bummer... how about the run time? was the whipping scene included? and is it anamorphic widescreen?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on February 10, 2007, 03:10:20 PM

bummer... how about the run time? was the whipping scene included? and is it anamorphic widescreen?

Yeah, the whipping scene was in there. The run time was 92 minutes. I remember because I checked the display a couple times to see how long before it was over.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: pixelated on February 10, 2007, 03:17:09 PM
Yeah, the whipping scene was in there. The run time was 92 minutes. I remember because I checked the display a couple times to see how long before it was over.


haha.. you must of really hated it.. i'm looking forward to it though, sounds like something i will dig


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on February 10, 2007, 03:18:35 PM
I didn't hate it, i give it like a five out of ten, it was just really average (aside from the last twenty minutes which almost made me consider upgrading it to a [gasp] Two and a Half star rating)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 10, 2007, 03:32:20 PM
The italian dvd has both the english and italian versions and the quality is better than the other versions out there. There is also a 17 minute interview with George Hilton with no eng. subs unfortunately.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on February 10, 2007, 03:40:43 PM

haha.. you must of really hated it.. i'm looking forward to it though, sounds like something i will dig

It's a great film Pix.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on February 11, 2007, 06:59:17 AM
For me i'd rate Massacre Time somewhere in between Firecrackers and Silenzios opinions.
Very good but not exactly great :-\


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on February 11, 2007, 12:05:36 PM
Massacre Time thinks you're average too.  :P


I haven't watched it yet, but I did get Face to Face in the mail ( thanks Silenzio  O0 ).


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on February 11, 2007, 12:29:25 PM
Massacre Time is the first SW I saw. I was 12 then. It left a strong impression on me. And that impression doesn't change for every repeated viewing still. It's intensely Italian. The theme of family and emotional atmosphere enhanced by music make this western very special. The opening of blood flowing donw on the river from Nino Castelnuovo to Franco Nero shows the hidden bloodline. It's brilliant! And how can you forget the wonderful acting of George Hilton.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 11, 2007, 12:43:56 PM
I felt Hilton stole the film away from Nero and I enjoyed this one too. The action scenes were better than usual (particularly so soon in the cycle) and plus I'm a big Fulci fan and it was great to see his earlier take on the genre and it was easy to see where his career was heading with the violent scenes with his later films like DON'T TORTURE THE DUCKLING, ZOMBIE, THE BEYOND, HOUSE BY THE CEMETERY, CITY OF THE LIVING DEAD, NEW YORK RIPPER, etc.....


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on February 15, 2007, 08:48:24 AM
Ace High
Acquasanta Joe
Adios Sabata
Alive or Preferably Dead
All Out
Among Vultures
And For The Roof A Skyful Of Stars
And God Said To Cain
Any Gun Can Play
Apocalypse Joe
Arizona Colt
Bad Mans River
Bandidos
Beast
Belle Starr Story
Ben and Charlie
Between God Devil & The Winchester
Beyond The Law
Big Gundown
Black Killer
Blindman
Blood At Sundown
Boot Hill
Buddy Goes West
Bullets Don't Argue
Bullet For Sandoval
Bullet For The General
Bury Them Deep
California
Captain Apache
Cemetery Without Crosses
China 9 Liberty 37
Chuck Mool
Cjamango
Coffin For The Sheriff
Coming At Ya
Companeros
Cost Of Dying
Cowards Don't Pray
Crazy Bunch
Cry For Revenge
Cry Onion
Cut Throats Nine
Day Of Anger
Dead Aim
Dead Men Ride
Deaf Smith & Johnny Ears
Death At Owell Rock
Death Played The Flute
Death Rides A Horse
Death Sentence
Death Walks In Laredo
Dirty Outlaws
Django
Django Chalenges Sartana
Django Kill
Django Last Killer
Django Shoots First
Django Strikes Again
Django The Bastard
Don't Wait Django...Shoot
Drummer Of  Vengeance
Duck You Sucker
Dynamite Joe
Execution
Face To Face
Fasthand
Few Dollars For Django
Fifteen Scaffolds For The Killers
Fighting Fists Of Shanghai Joe
Find A Place To Die
Fistful Of Lead
Fistful Of Dollars
Five Man Army
$5000 On The Ace
For A Few Dollars Less
For A Few Dollars More
Forgotten Pistolero
Fort Yuma Gold
Four Of The Apocalypse
Four Rode Out
Garringo
Gentleman Killer
Get Mean
God Forgives I Don't
Gods Gun
Good,The Bad And The Ugly
Grand Duel
Great Silence
Greatest Robbery In The West
Gunfight At Red Sands
Hands Of A Gunman
Hate For Hate
Hate Thy Neighbour
Have A Good Funeral Sartana Will Pay
Heads You Die Tails I Kill You
Hellbenders
Here We Go Again Providence
Hills Run Red
His Name Was Holy Ghost
His Name Was King
His Name Was Sam Walbush
I Am Sartana Your Angel Of Death
I Came I Saw I Shot
I Want Him Dead
In A Colts Shadow
It Can Be Done Amigo
Jesse & Lester
John The Bastard
Johnny Hamlet
Johnny Yuma
Keoma
Kid Vengeance
Kill Johnny Ringo
Kill Them All & Come Back Alone
Killer Calibre .32
Killer Kid
Lemonade Joe
Light The Fuse Sartana Is Coming
Long Days Of Vengeance
Long Live Your Death
Machine Gun Killers
Man Pride & Vengeance
Man Called Blade
Man Called Noon
Man Called Sledge
Man Of The East
Man Who Cried Revenge
Massacre At Fort Holman
Massacre at Grand Canyon
Massacre Time
Matalo
Mercenary
Minesota Clay
Minute To Pray,A Second To Die
Moment To Kill
Mutiny At Fort Sharp
My Name Is Nobody
My Name Is Pecos
Navajo Joe
Nobodys The Greatest
No Graves On Boot Hill
No Room To Die
On The 3rd Day Arrived A Crow
Once Upon A Time In The West
One After The Other
One Silver Dollar
$100,000 For Ringo
Payment In Blood
Pistol For 100 Coffins
Pistol For Ringo
Pistol Packin' Preacher
Price Of Death
Price Of Power
Raise Your Hands,Dead Man
Red Blood Yellow Gold
Red Coat
Return Of Hallelujah
Return Of Ringo
Return Of Sabata
Requiescant
Rewards Yours,The Mans Mine
Ringo:Face Of Revenge
Ringo & His Golden Pistol
Rojo
Run Man Run
Ruthless Four
Sabata
Sartana
Sartana Does Not Forgive
Sartana In The Valley Of Death
Sartana Kills Them All
Seven Dollars On The Red
Seven Guns For The McGregors
Seven Women For The McGregors
Shango
Shoot The Living,Pray For The Dead
Sometimes Life Is Tough Eh Providence?
Son Of A Gunfighter
Sonny & Jed
Specialists
Starblack
Stranger & The Gunfighter
Stranger In Japan
Stranger In El Paso
Stranger In Town
Stranger Returns
Sugar Colt
Take A Hard Ride
Taste For Killing
Tepepa
$100,000 Blood Money
Texas Adios
Texican
They Call Him Cemetery
Ther Call Him Veritas
They Call Him Trinity
Thirteenth Is A Judas
Thirty Winchesters For El Diablo
This Man Can't Die
Those Dirty Dogs
To Hell And Back
Today Its Me Tommorow Its You
Train For Durango
Tramplers
Treasure of Silver Lake
Treasure Of The Aztecs
Trinity & Sartana Are Coming
Trinity Is Still My Name
Ugly Ones
Vengeance
Vengeance Is Mine
Vengeance Trail
Viva Django
Viva Maria
Viva Sabata
Wanted
What Am I Doing In The Middle Of A Revolution?
White Commanche
White,The Yellow & The Black
Winnetou The Warrior
W.Django

Just added today Dead Men Ride O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on February 15, 2007, 09:59:35 AM
Just added today FFDM!!! :D :D :D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on February 15, 2007, 10:44:50 AM
Just added today FFDM!!! :D :D :D
;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on February 19, 2007, 03:34:37 PM
I added Face to Face to my SW collection last week ( thanks Silenzio  O0 ).


I thought it was fantastic. I consider it to be the greatest non-Leone SW. I really liked Volonte and Berger's characters and the climax on the sand dunes was the best part of the film.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: tucumcari bound on February 19, 2007, 04:05:34 PM
The Mercenary
Face To Face
Companeros
Death Rides a Horse
Run Man Run

Whoever owns these 5 spaghetti's and wants to burn me a quality copy, feel free! I need these movies!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on February 19, 2007, 04:10:17 PM
The Mercenary
Face To Face
Companeros
Death Rides a Horse
Run Man Run

Whoever owns these 5 spaghetti's and wants to burn me a quality copy, feel free! I need these movies!

I own all of them.

Maybe I'll burn them for you when I become less busy. This week I'm going into the city to see some of those Morricone movies at the Film Forum.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: tucumcari bound on February 19, 2007, 04:53:45 PM
I own all of them.

Maybe I'll burn them for you when I become less busy. This week I'm going into the city to see some of those Morricone movies at the Film Forum.

Thanks Peacemaker!! I'd really appreciate it if you could do that. Just let me know.  O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on February 20, 2007, 02:12:47 PM
The Grand Duel

This had potential to be downright one of the best spaghettis ever, with its great plot, haunting main theme, superb action, great build up, good direction and Lee Van Cleef in an awesome role! Basically, it's about Philip Vermeer, who is being chased by bounty hunters because he was framed for a certain murder. Lee Van Cleef is Sheriff Clayton who knows that Philip is innocent. We're kind of thrown into the middle of things and there are many plot twists along the way, so i deliberately didn't give much away here. The opening was extremely promising.  Basically, we're thrown into this situation where Vermeer is being staked out by a large group of bounty killers but doesn't know it, so Lee goes around and reveals to Philip that the people are hiding there in various cool manners, which then leads to one of the coolest, most exhilarating, and over-the-top action sequences you will EVER see in a western. Unfortunately, there are too many bad scenes that slow this one down,  and the music is inconsistent as well.  The music ranges from an amazing main theme song to a really really awful banjo-pickin' fiddle song that has absolutely no place in a spaghetti western. What's worse, it plays during a comically bad chase scene (actually, i don't think it would be so comically awful if there was different music). There are some things you come to expect from an SW and some from an AW.  If that song was in an old AW, i wouldn't care so much, but i really disliked the fact that it was in an SW. Also, **SPOILERS** in the end when Lee Van Cleef gets shot i was expecting, "Sweet, Van Cleef is gonna die. How spaghetti." But instead all I got was "Gee, phil, there's a girl that'll keep you out of trouble." and the bad fiddle song came over the speakers again. There wasn't even any ambiguity of "Did he die?" a la Shane. **SPOILERS END** We'll see how repeat viewings treat this one.

***

The version I saw was Widescreen and 90 minutes exactly, how long is the Wild East one?






This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *1/2
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody *** 1/2
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 20, 2007, 02:22:51 PM
The Wild East one is 90 minutes but apparently cut. The trailer has some bloody violence not in the film.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on February 20, 2007, 02:25:10 PM
Did it have the shot where the old man reaches up and grabs the shirt of the saxon brother who shot him, thus leaving a bloody stain? Because mine didn't have that, but I saw it in the trailer.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 20, 2007, 02:28:14 PM
Yes, that's the one. I don't remember it there was anything else. Apparently WE used an American release print judging by the inserted title card at the opening. It seems many of their releases are dupes of Japanese or Italian DVDs.  I wish they'd take the Japanese disc of ARIZONA COLT and dub the english track over it to replace their shoddy release of the same title.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on February 20, 2007, 04:02:51 PM
Many of my SWs were bought in value packs, with disappointing quality. I have three separate cheap copies of Death Rides a Horse. None of them watchable in the slightest.

Is there a thread here that warns of which cheap Wal-Mart $5.50 DVDs are good and which aren't? I got a decent copy of My Name is Nobody in one of those sets recently.

--Eric


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Tim on February 20, 2007, 07:41:28 PM
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Is there a thread here that warns of which cheap Wal-Mart $5.50 DVDs are good and which aren't? I got a decent copy of My Name is Nobody in one of those sets recently.

  Most of the $5.50 dvds you mentioned aren't going to be of the best quality, and for that amount of money, don't expect too much.  Good find though on My Name is Nobody, especially for so cheap.   O0  But pretty much all the other ones in that price range are going to be of low quality. 


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on February 20, 2007, 10:00:41 PM
Yeah, well...haha. When you're a poor grad student, you can't be too choosy or spend too much money on DVDs, or the wife gets angry.  ;)

I've gotten decent copies of My Name is Nobody, My Name is Trinity, The Hellbenders, The Grand Duel and Any Gun Can Play for pretty cheap though. And for awhile, Wal-Mart had the double-disc of OUATITW for $6.50.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on February 21, 2007, 05:04:34 AM
I've also had to change Django Shoots First to Don't Shoot Django...Wait 
UK Amazon are selling Django Shoots First for less than a fiver so its now correct to say i've now got that one O0
BTW i heard the Bruno Nicolai score is good on that one :)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: cigar joe on February 21, 2007, 05:44:28 AM
Pancho Villa put out by Geneon in the bargain bins is a great print, story is ok, casting somewhat falls down otherwise its good.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: pixelated on February 21, 2007, 08:53:20 AM
you can also find a few SWs in the $1 double feature dvds at walmart and assorted grocery/drug stores..

Gods Gun/Kid Vengeance
Boot Hill/Four Rode Out

i've heard there are some others, but haven't seen em... they're not the best quality, but hey.. its a buck for two


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on February 21, 2007, 03:28:29 PM
The Grand Duel

This had potential to be downright one of the best spaghettis ever, with its great plot, haunting main theme, superb action, great build up, good direction and Lee Van Cleef in an awesome role! Basically, it's about Philip Vermeer, who is being chased by bounty hunters because he was framed for a certain murder. Lee Van Cleef is Sheriff Clayton who knows that Philip is innocent. We're kind of thrown into the middle of things and there are many plot twists along the way, so i deliberately didn't give much away here. The opening was extremely promising.  Basically, we're thrown into this situation where Vermeer is being staked out by a large group of bounty killers but doesn't know it, so Lee goes around and reveals to Philip that the people are hiding there in various cool manners, which then leads to one of the coolest, most exhilarating, and over-the-top action sequences you will EVER see in a western. Unfortunately, there are too many bad scenes that slow this one down,  and the music is inconsistent as well.  The music ranges from an amazing main theme song to a really really awful banjo-pickin' fiddle song that has absolutely no place in a spaghetti western. What's worse, it plays during a comically bad chase scene (actually, i don't think it would be so comically awful if there was different music). There are some things you come to expect from an SW and some from an AW.  If that song was in an old AW, i wouldn't care so much, but i really disliked the fact that it was in an SW. Also, **SPOILERS** in the end when Lee Van Cleef gets shot i was expecting, "Sweet, Van Cleef is gonna die. How spaghetti." But instead all I got was "Gee, phil, there's a girl that'll keep you out of trouble." and the bad fiddle song came over the speakers again. There wasn't even any ambiguity of "Did he die?" a la Shane. **SPOILERS END** We'll see how repeat viewings treat this one.

***








It's certainly LVC's best spaghetti vehicle of the 70's and much better than the character driven "Beyond the Law" (which I like) from the 60's.

I don't care for the fiddle music either but it isn't used very often. The scene I had a problem with is the horse chase scene through the dunes. It's overlong and the music is annoying. Other than that I was very impressed with the film.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on February 21, 2007, 04:03:44 PM



It's certainly LVC's best spaghetti vehicle of the 70's and much better than the character driven "Beyond the Law" (which I like) from the 60's.

I don't care for the fiddle music either but it isn't used very often. The scene I had a problem with is the horse chase scene through the dunes. It's overlong and the music is annoying. Other than that I was very impressed with the film.

I agree, that is by far the worst scene.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 08, 2007, 03:16:18 PM
Adios, Sabata

I put off getting this from netflix for a long time because I heard things like "It's a suckfest. The only thing that sucks more than this is a vacuum.... and Return of Sabata."  Well, I thought this was a darn good spaghetti (but maybe Yul Brynner could've done without the tassles...). Of course, the first Sabata blows this out of the water (but it blows a lot of spaghettis out of the water), but since this was originally supposed to be a completely different entity, "Indio Black," I don't look at it as a Sabata movie (and I don't think many people do), after all, none of the Sabata trademarks are there.  No derringer... no Van Cleef... no nothing. It's just a gosh-darn cash-in title like A Fistful of Dynamite. 

Anyways, more about the movie itself.  It is a very solid spaghetti, particularly the opening sequence.  Yul Brynner is a good spaghetti hero (still, could've done without the tassles) with a really neat-o mosquito rifle. It has a boss magazine that goes horizontally through it kind of like a magazien for the famous Hotchkiss machine gun that you see in Zapatas like "The Mercenary" and "A Bullet for the General." But, of course, he saves the last bullet chamber to store a cigar to take out after he's done killing everybody.  We get to see some of Parolini's typical cool gadgets, like in Sabata and (from what i've seen of it) Sartana. The plot is a little more complicated than most spaghettis, but that's in no way a bad thing.  There's lots of double-crosses and such going on all the time.  I had some trouble following it as I was distracted by my sick brother for a while.  The villain could've been better, he A) Didn't look that badass and B) They could've come up with a better villain intro than having him skeet-shoot mexicans (yes, this is extremely evil and sick, but it loses some of its impact when it is stolen verbatim from Django).  Also, during his introduction, there was one part in the song that reminded me of the introduction from an alternate version of "Rivoluzione Contro" on the DYS soundtrack.  Was this film made before or after DYS?

And, though i didn't mind, some people not like the over-the-top acrobats, one of which actually kicks large lead balls at people......

This is certainly one I'd like to see again sometime.

***

Also, after another viewing, i bumped hellbenders back up to the four stars it certainly deserves.  What was i thinking when I downgraded to *** 1/2?  :-[







This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *1/2
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody *** 1/2
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2




Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Tim on March 08, 2007, 03:27:04 PM
  Adios Sabata is one of my favorite non-Leone spaghettis.  Silenzio, did you like the music?  I find myself humming the theme for weeks after watching it.  And Dean Reed's last line is pretty good, a la Tuco in GBU. O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 08, 2007, 03:30:53 PM
I loved the music, good ol' Bruno Nicolai.  :)

I didn't like the last line because, whereas in GBU it was just clever and awesome, in this it just felt copied and really lame... It was cool when he was cut off with the music when he said "Son of a bitch" but being cut off with a title that says "........!!" is just weird.  It didn't detract from the movie for me, though, i still liked it a lot.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Tim on March 08, 2007, 03:33:55 PM
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I didn't like the last line because, whereas in GBU it was just clever and awesome, in this it just felt copied and really lame... It was cool when he was cut off with the music when he said "Son of a bitch" but being cut off with a title that says "........!!" is just weird.  It didn't detract from the movie for me, though, i still liked it a lot.

  Fair enough.  The reason I like it is Dean Reed's constant double-crossing.  The second it gets turned on him, he turns into a whiny kid.  "Come on, guyyyyyyyyyyyys, give me some.  I want some money tooooooooo." ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 08, 2007, 04:50:12 PM
Nice review Silenzio though i did like the Col Skimmel villain in Adios Sabata together with his model ship that fires mini cannon balls. :)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Tim on March 09, 2007, 08:59:05 AM
Quote
Nice review Silenzio though i did like the Col Skimmel villain in Adios Sabata together with his model ship that fires mini cannon balls.

  I enjoyed how Col. Skimmel met his fate with his great painting of himself.  That tearing sound as the knife slices through the painting.  Should have never shot all those peon prisoners, it never works out.   O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 09, 2007, 08:30:17 PM
Just finished "If You Meet Sartana... Pray For Your Death." 







Um....








I will gladly leave my review after a repeat viewing, because this film certainly requires it, and try to pitch in on the "Sartana Plot Reconstruction" thread.  But i'm not going to turn to it for answers just yet, that's cheating.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 09, 2007, 08:38:43 PM
Just finished "If You Meet Sartana... Pray For Your Death." 







Um....









Told ya!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 09, 2007, 08:41:59 PM
I loved the music, good ol' Bruno Nicolai.  :)




If anything the music rips off the earlier "forgotten pistolero" theme.


Don't care for the film. In fact I like the universally derided "Return of Sabata" much better (it takes repeat viewings to really appreciate).
This just doesn' t do it for me. The final ten minutes are the only thing worth watching. And Dean Reed is probably the best of the "untrustworthy friends" (Banjo, Ballantine, Clyde) in the Sabata series!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 09, 2007, 10:49:48 PM
And Dean Reed is probably the best of the "untrustworthy friends" (Banjo, Ballantine, Clyde) in the Sabata series!

Even though Ballantine was pretty good, he was NO Banjo.



In other news, i decided to make a marathon out of tonight and watch "Day Of Anger" as well.

AWESOME!! This one is amazing! It was my first Gemma western, and he left a good impression.  Everything is great about this: the music, the locations (though there aren't many, most of the action takes place in a town), the actors, and the directing.  This could also possibly be my favorite Lee Van Cleef role, he's pretty well developed.  He seems to genuinely care about Scott at time even though in the long run you know he doesn't.  Also, Valerii's style is reminiscent of his old boss Leone but he does not mimic it.  Even at the end when I was expecting a long, epic duel set to a tension-building composition, and what i got was four different camera angles, four different guitar chords, and then BLAM! It actually surprised me how abrupt it was.  The town has great set design.  The story is solid, based on some German novel.  Everything about it just clicks.  It slows up a little after the hour and twenty minute mark, but that doesn't detract much.  All in all i think this is a top-ten worthy spaghetti. 

****


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 09, 2007, 11:11:07 PM
He seems to genuinely care about Scott at time even though in the long run you know he doesn't. 


He cares about him quite a bit (you can see he really doesn't want to go through with the showdown at the end). Not enough to die over though.


Gemma is great! I have yet to see one bad spaghetti he has starred in (except for "Long Days of Vengeance" which I didn't care for).

Check out...

For a roof a skyful of stars
Return of Ringo
California
Pistol For Ringo (classic)

Just to name a few!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on March 09, 2007, 11:16:37 PM
Yes, all of Gemmas westerns are must see material some more than others. Curious if his war pictures and crime thrillers are as good.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 09, 2007, 11:26:20 PM
Come to think of it, "Price of Power" isn't so hot either. It has it's moments. I'd watch it again.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 10, 2007, 10:23:02 AM
How's "Blood For a Silver Dollar" a.k.a. "One Silver Dollar"?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on March 10, 2007, 01:22:12 PM
How's "Blood For a Silver Dollar" a.k.a. "One Silver Dollar"?

"One Silver Dollar" is G.G.'s classic. It certainlly marks its name in the SW history. The theme song is unforgettable. "Nobody knows the story of a man------."


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 10, 2007, 02:00:41 PM
"One Silver Dollar" is G.G.'s classic. It certainlly marks its name in the SW history. The theme song is unforgettable. "Nobody knows the story of a man------."

Hey, that song is on your SW CD.  I didn't know what movie it was from, but i was able to figure out the chords on my guitar.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 10, 2007, 03:58:33 PM
I watched "...If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death" again, and I left my in-depth plot synopsis on the "Sartana! Plot Reconstruction" thread.

I have to say, that with a repeat viewing, I thought this movie was awesome and a classic.  The complicated plot is one of the things that sets it aside from other spaghettis, and makes it so much more rewarding the second time around.  This was my first Garko spaghetti and he left a good, good impression.  He plays Sartana, a gunslinger who's trying to muscle in on an extremely complicated gold robbery that went down recently.  He carries with him a mythic and other-worldly aura.  In fact, some are of the opinion (myself included) that he is actually some kind of avenging phantom.  While I was watching, this having heard so much about this larger-than-life character, and how much he had been built up, I was not disappointed.  Garko's Sartana is intriguing, he's interesting to watch, he's interesting to look at, and he even smiles from time to time in this movie.  One of the things that makes him so strange is the fact that he seems to be completely asexual.  At more than one point in the film, a woman is throwing herself at Sartana, and he shows no desires or anything, he keeps his mind completely on the gold and anything he would need to do get the gold or get Lasky, the villain (played by William Berger).  This is reinforced by the fact that he wears a huge black piece of jewelry on the finger where your wedding ring is supposed to be, like there's a big hole there, something empty. 

But enough about Sartana himself, let's talk about the movie.  This one wasn't shot in Almeria, I hear.  And it shows.  The locations look very distinct from other spaghettis.  They're not bad, but they're distinct.  The direction is pretty darn good, but not as good as it came be in Parolini's later efforts like Sabata.  Garko, Berger, and Sancho are all good, but most other supporting actors turn in a pretty wooden performance. With the exception of Kinski, that is.  I noticed that whoever dubbed Kinski had a much deeper voice than the people that usually dub him, and I dug it.  This was very important to me, because it was also my first Sancho western.  Sancho gets a great introduction in this movie.  It cuts to him strolling down the western streets in mid close-up while the music abruptly changes to this really cool guitar part.  All the music in this movie was pretty nice, but that piece was my favorite! It was just so cool.

I might talk about it more later, but I'm kind of sick of talking about Sartana right now, having just spend so much time on the synopsis.


***1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on March 10, 2007, 04:19:27 PM
Hey, that song is on your SW CD.  I didn't know what movie it was from, but i was able to figure out the chords on my guitar.

I wrote the original Italian title, but I guess you didn't recognize it. I envy you can play the melody. Can you sing the song too?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 10, 2007, 04:42:53 PM
Can you sing the song too?

Not well.


And on your track list the song was just listed as "A Man, A Story."


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on March 10, 2007, 05:59:18 PM
O yeah, that's right. I did input the film title as data on the disk itself but not in the insert sleeve.

You can mimic Fred Bongst's low key voice, can't you? There's an instrument version with a whistle also. Alessandroni is credited for that piece.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 10, 2007, 08:38:51 PM
I'm not much of a singer.... at all.

However, that Alessandro Alessandroni whistling piece sounds interesting.






This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *1/2
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
...If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody *** 1/2
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2





Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 12, 2007, 10:02:33 AM


But enough about Sartana himself, let's talk about the movie.  This one wasn't shot in Almeria, I hear.  And it shows.  The locations look very distinct from other spaghettis.  They're not bad, but they're distinct. 


***1/2

It was shot in Italy near a dump. You can see some moss growing on the sand dunes due to the sewage. It gives the movie a strange atmosphere which helps the horror/gothic element.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 12, 2007, 10:54:52 AM
I have to say, that with a repeat viewing, I thought this movie was awesome and a classic. 
Surely Sartana deserves a ****  rating then!! O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on March 12, 2007, 11:07:44 AM
Surely Sartana deserves a ****  rating then!! O0



Agreed.
Anything called a "classic" should have the luxury of having a four star rating.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 12, 2007, 11:13:56 AM


Agreed.
Anything called a "classic" should have the luxury of having a four star rating.
One post and i love you already Sonny ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on March 12, 2007, 01:18:41 PM
One post and i love you already Sonny ;)

Good.  That proves your loyalty to "the master" (aka The Firecracker)..or does it..? 8)

In my book, however, the praise should be given to the content of my wisdom...not to me ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on March 12, 2007, 01:31:02 PM
Good.  That proves your loyalty to "the master" (aka The Firecracker)..or does it..? 8)

In my book, however, the praise should be given to the content of my wisdom...not to me ;D

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D FC is truly the Devil incarnate. >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D >:D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on March 12, 2007, 01:41:42 PM
I wrote the original Italian title, but I guess you didn't recognize it. I envy you can play the melody. Can you sing the song too?

Would anyone be interested in a website full of spaghetti tabs and guitar chords? I could help whip one up -- I figured out the theme to the Grand Duel the other day.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on March 12, 2007, 01:49:23 PM
Would anyone be interested in a website full of spaghetti tabs and guitar chords? I could help whip one up -- I figured out the theme to the Grand Duel the other day.

Though I cannot play guitar, I would. ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on March 12, 2007, 01:51:07 PM
That would be great. I used to have an electric guitar but never got the chance to learn much about how to pay one due to too many other committments. Thinking of purchasing another one sometime in the near future. That would be awesome to be able to play some of those tunes.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 12, 2007, 04:09:00 PM
Would anyone be interested in a website full of spaghetti tabs and guitar chords? I could help whip one up -- I figured out the theme to the Grand Duel the other day.

That would be nice.  I figured out the chords from Day of Anger and most of the melody, but that first sweet lick is giving me some problems.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on March 12, 2007, 10:23:48 PM
Try this:

Code:
e|--------------------------------13----|
B|--1-1---------------------------16----|
G|--------------------------------14----|
D|------3-3-----3-3---------------13----|
A|----------3-3-----3-3-----------15----|
E|----------------------1-1-3-1---13----|


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 13, 2007, 06:07:01 AM
Would anyone be interested in a website full of spaghetti tabs and guitar chords? I could help whip one up -- I figured out the theme to the Grand Duel the other day.
Thats a really cool idea Eric but it' would also be great if you created a thread here with tablature for a  small selection of tunes for us to get our teeth into O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 13, 2007, 06:11:14 AM
Good.  That proves your loyalty to "the master" (aka The Firecracker)..or does it..? 8)
It might be the other way round because as i remember it i had trouble trying to convince Firecracker about Sartana's classic status. ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on March 14, 2007, 09:04:23 AM
I should probably actually address the point of this thread with a list of SWs I have copies of.

In no order whatsoever:

Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
The Good the Bad and the Ugly
Once Upon a Time in the West
Fistful of Dynamite / Duck You Sucker
They Call Me Trinity
Trinity Is Still My Name
My Name is Nobody
God Forgives, I Don't (A burned copy with no English subtitles, sadly)
Ace High
Boot Hill
The Great Silence
Death Rides a Horse
Sabata
Adios Sabata
Return of Sabata
Django
Django the Bastard
Django Kill...If You Live, Shoot!
W Django
Keoma
Beyond the Law
God's Gun (terrible quality)
Requiescant
Hellbenders
Black Killer
Minnesota Clay
The Mercenary
Companeros
Blindman
Five Man Army
The Grand Duel
Any Gun Can Play
Johnny Yuma
Navajo Joe
Pancho Villa
Mannaja
Red Sun (Bronson meets Mifune with Ursula Andress, Capucine and Alain Delon onboard too -- still haven't watched this one for some reason)
White Comanche (bleh!)
Blood For a Silver Dollar
A Bullet For the General
Run Man Run
El Topo (not really a spaghetti, I guess)

So what should I try to track down next? The Sartana movies?

--Eric


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on March 14, 2007, 12:03:50 PM
Great collection, Eric. Your list makes me envious. I suggest "Massacre Time", "Day of Anger", "Pistol for Lingo", "Return of Ringo" and "Bounty Killer" to add.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on March 14, 2007, 03:44:55 PM
Don't get too jealous. I got alot of these through trading and many are badly formatted, grainy copies that I'm fairly certain either had haphazard screenwriters or cut scenes!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 14, 2007, 04:20:49 PM
Oh yes! Massacre Time is an excellent SW.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 14, 2007, 05:05:37 PM
Oh yes! Massacre Time is an excellent SW.

Kind of, sort of... but not really.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on March 14, 2007, 05:25:46 PM
Aw, don't be a party pooper.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 14, 2007, 05:33:38 PM
Maybe I'll have to watch it again sometime.


But, yes, Day of Anger is an essential, and if you have a region-free dvd player, get Death Sentence!  A million little  O0 guys for Death Sentence.

If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death is great too.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 14, 2007, 07:08:37 PM
Don't get too jealous. I got alot of these through trading and many are badly formatted, grainy copies that I'm fairly certain either had haphazard screenwriters or cut scenes!


YES!


and pay no attention to Silenzio. "Massacre Time" is brilliant!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on March 14, 2007, 07:24:13 PM
Well now I wouldn't go so far as to say it was brilliant. I would say George Hilton pulls the rug from under the sometimes overrated Franco Nero who is more wooden here than usual. Enjoyable and recommended but not overly memorable spag other than its sadistic villain, Hilton's swaggeringly sarcastic hero and Lucio Fulci laying hints as to where his career was headed in the coming years.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sanjuro on March 14, 2007, 10:07:26 PM
It may not be a masterpiece, but it's certaily a classic in the SW history. Since this was my first SW, it's definitly unforgettable to me. Its tone, music, twisted family theme----, it's intensely Italian all the way. Franco Nero, George Hilton, psychotic Nino Castelnuovo, they are a great set of characters as half related brothers. And fetichism for blood is a real Fulci touch and that makes this western unique.

(http://img81.imageshack.us/img81/1710/fnbq5.jpg)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 14, 2007, 10:10:04 PM
It may not be a masterpiece, but it's certaily a classic in the SW history. Since this was my first SW, it's definitly unforgettable to me. Its tone, music, twisted family theme----, it's intensely Italian all the way. Franco Nero, George Hilton, psychotic Nino Castelnuovo, they are a great set of characters as half related brothers. And fetichism for blood is a real Fulci touch and that makes this western unique.

 


In agreement with Sanjuro!


Certainly on my top 20 list.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on March 14, 2007, 10:30:38 PM
I didn't say I didn't like it, but it probably wouldn't make my top 20.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 15, 2007, 10:53:06 AM
Kind of, sort of... but not really.
Yes i'm kinda on the same wavelength regarding Massacre Time.

Top 50 possibly ::)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 15, 2007, 02:11:57 PM

In agreement with Sanjuro!



I also agree with him.

From the trailer I thought the movie would be just okay, even though Firecracker praised the film. Then I saw it and fell in love with it.



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 15, 2007, 03:00:27 PM
Yes i'm kinda on the same wavelength regarding Massacre Time.

Top 50 possibly ::)

It would make my top 50 as I've only seen 30 some SWs anyway.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on March 15, 2007, 03:07:04 PM
Try this:

Code:
e|--------------------------------13----|
B|--1-1---------------------------16----|
G|--------------------------------14----|
D|------3-3-----3-3---------------13----|
A|----------3-3-----3-3-----------15----|
E|----------------------1-1-3-1---13----|

Oh, woah, I wish I had seen this before i went through the trouble of slowing it down and figuring it out when I tabbed out the whole song.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: New Brandon on March 15, 2007, 03:52:24 PM
Off the top of my head...

A Fistful of Dollars
For a Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Once Upon a Time in the West
Duck, You Sucker
Django
Django, Kill!
Death Rides a Horse
Beyond the Law
The Big Gundown
My Name is Nobody
My Name is Trinity
Trinity is Still My Name
Sons of Trinity
Four of the Apocalypse
Fistful of Lead
God's Gun

A few others on budget DVD sets and such... Hard to watch some of them, as not only are they full-fledged 'B' movies, but they're also in pan and scan and aren't pretty to look at from a video quality aspect. I'd recommend watching pretty much all of these to board members, since everyone here is a fan of the genre.

I recently bought the Once Upon a Time in Italy set, so I can add those soon... I have Run, Man, Run, Mannaja, the Great Silence and Face to Face coming in the mail.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 17, 2007, 04:07:46 PM
Just remembered that I have one or two SW box sets. Like New Brandon said, it's hard to watch most of them because of the terrible quality and their B-movie feel.

One SW I remember watching from a set was Kid Vengeance, and that movie was a piece of crap.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 17, 2007, 06:27:20 PM
It would make my top 50 as I've only seen 30 some SWs anyway.
Sorry i wasn't boasting and with what i've got top 50 is still pretty good ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 19, 2007, 09:46:39 AM

 Kid Vengeance,


It's hard to think of a more sleep inducing movie.

it never gets off the ground.

Easily the worst of the Van Cleef and Brown collaborations.



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 19, 2007, 02:12:25 PM

It's hard to think of a more sleep inducing movie.

it never gets off the ground.

Easily the worst of the Van Cleef and Brown collaborations.



And the way the kid was able to kill off professional gunmen using a rock is laughable.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 19, 2007, 07:49:59 PM
And the way the kid was able to kill off professional gunmen using a rock is laughable.



I recall him putting a rattle snake inside one of the bandits boots (ouch!). That was pretty clever.


Don't recall the rock death, though I do remember him having a slingshot.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Tim on March 19, 2007, 09:27:38 PM
Quote
Don't recall the rock death, though I do remember him having a slingshot.

  Maybe you just blocked it out.   ;D  I was able to block out most of Kid Vengeance from my memory.  I paid $1.99 for that VHS and still felt ripped off.   :)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 20, 2007, 02:47:21 PM

Don't recall the rock death, though I do remember him having a slingshot.

Maybe that was it.

The only thing I remember for sure is that it was trash.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on March 20, 2007, 03:11:26 PM
Got a copy of the Big Gundown today to add to my list. Still in need of Sartana.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 20, 2007, 03:20:15 PM
Got a copy of the Big Gundown today to add to my list. Still in need of Sartana.

Did you watch it yet?

It's very good. Overrated but good.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on March 21, 2007, 09:19:57 AM
Got a copy of the Big Gundown today to add to my list. Still in need of Sartana.

Sartana's definitely worth having around. I've seen three films from the series so far, perhaps the ones worth seeing the most (If you see Sartana..., Have a Good Funeral..., and Light the Fuse..)....all of which are worth buying, so don't think of just buying the first Sartana. 
Although it is the original and some might believe it's the best of the series, I believe Light the Fuse deserves the pedestal.

As far as Big Gundown, I haven't seen it yet.  And yes, I've heard it's greatly overrated... still i'd like to see it (and certainly not on television)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 22, 2007, 10:09:29 AM

Although it is the original and some might believe it's the best of the series, I believe Light the Fuse deserves the pedestal.
Yes i'm looking forward (with baited breath) for LA's verdict on the original.
Light The Fuse is top notch but not quite so deserving of the classic status of Parolini's film.Like the original Light The Fuse has a brilliant opening sequence and other great highlights including the organ cannon and toy robot dynamite dispenser but the detective story itself is so-so and is  let down by mediocre villains.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 22, 2007, 10:40:53 AM
Yes i'm looking forward (with baited breath) for LA's verdict on the original.

Coming this Summer...


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on March 22, 2007, 12:59:57 PM
but the detective story itself is so-so and is  let down by mediocre villains.

mmm ok, can't argue with that sort of conviction...

the villains were "mediocre" as you put it, but then again, wasn't that their purpose?
Remember, Parolini's Sartana had a darker essence than Carmineo's sequels.  Light the Fuse in particular was meant to be..."sillier" (for lack of a better word)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on March 22, 2007, 02:05:48 PM
Did you watch it yet?

It's very good. Overrated but good.

It's still in the queue. I finally did watch Sabata though and found it a little disappointing.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 22, 2007, 02:09:11 PM
You didn't like Sabata either? I tell you I was so dissapointed with it. Did not like it at all. Too 'funny' for my tastes.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on March 22, 2007, 03:21:43 PM
I finally did watch Sabata though and found it a little disappointing.

Why?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 22, 2007, 03:42:16 PM
Why?


Overly positive reviews and positive "word of mouth" will do that to you.


You went in without any preconception of what the movie might be.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on March 22, 2007, 03:51:59 PM

Overly positive reviews and positive "word of mouth" will do that to you.


You went in without any preconception of what the movie might be.


 :o Amazing how you can get in and out of my head so easily.

However, in this case, you couldn't be more wrong about my preconception of the film.

I expected it to be decent, perhaps more so than the first Sartana
I personally like Parolini's style, is that all right with you FC?  ::)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on March 22, 2007, 03:55:51 PM
SPOILERS FOLLOW!

Actually, my disappointment came more from Banjo. I'm not sure what was so appealing about the character, but I really liked him for the first 2/3's of the movie. He seemed especially cunning and savvy and aloof in the sorts of ways that make the Man With No Name so likeable as a character despite the fact that he's really not all that great of a fellow.

But then the switch comes, Banjo loses face and is essentially humiliated in the end. I'd have much preferred for him to be one of the winners. To put it in Leone terms, he went from Blondie to Tuco rather quickly and it made the ending unsatisfactory for me.

But there were lots of other things I did enjoy about the movie. I'll watch it again and list some of them. Maybe now that I know what's coming, I can gain a different take on it.

Vamos a Matar Companeros, which I watched last night, however, was awesome!

--Eric


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 22, 2007, 04:01:54 PM



I personally like Parolini's style,


I do as well.

Very similar to Carnimeo. A lot of zooms and handheld camera work (something I like to call "camera acrobatics"). Although I believe Parolini's style is much more polished than Carnimeo's, making him the better of the two.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 22, 2007, 04:02:55 PM


But then the switch comes, Banjo loses face and is essentially humiliated in the end.



Well he couldn't go unpunished.


At least he wasn't killed.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on March 22, 2007, 04:04:07 PM
Thing is, I didn't like the switch. It seemed beneath the character as presented at that point in the movie.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on March 22, 2007, 04:07:16 PM
SPOILERS FOLLOW!

Actually, my disappointment came more from Banjo. I'm not sure what was so appealing about the character, but I really liked him for the first 2/3's of the movie. He seemed especially cunning and savvy and aloof in the sorts of ways that make the Man With No Name so likeable as a character despite the fact that he's really not all that great of a fellow.

But then the switch comes, Banjo loses face and is essentially humiliated in the end. I'd have much preferred for him to be one of the winners. To put it in Leone terms, he went from Blondie to Tuco rather quickly and it made the ending unsatisfactory for me.

But there were lots of other things I did enjoy about the movie. I'll watch it again and list some of them. Maybe now that I know what's coming, I can gain a different take on it.



<Beware of spoilers please>

I personally saw nothing wrong with Banjo's character, although i agree with your point of view regarding the end.
Since Banjo's character was always mysterious and looking as though he had full control of the situation the whole time, the ending does denote his significance throughout the rest of the film.  
Both him and Sbata would've made a great collaboration, as was Sabata's plan as they left the town with the gold.

Still, even that ending wasn't so bad.  It added that unexpected surprise, nothing Banjo's character didn't deserve anyway, for having cheated his "partner". I found it amusing.



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sundance on March 22, 2007, 04:27:37 PM
Here's my eurowestern list, not in alphabetic order (although they are arranged by the first letter...):

http://www.sundances.net/list.html

80% are originals (either DVD or VHS), I would like it to be 100%. :( And I haven't seen all of them yet. :'(
Plus some are only in Italian, Spanish, French or German. EDIT: and Finnish and Swedish... :o


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: tucumcari bound on March 22, 2007, 11:42:39 PM
That's quite a list Sundance for just eurowesterns.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 23, 2007, 04:34:36 AM
mmm ok, can't argue with that sort of conviction...

the villains were "mediocre" as you put it, but then again, wasn't that their purpose?
Remember, Parolini's Sartana had a darker essence than Carmineo's sequels.  Light the Fuse in particular was meant to be..."sillier" (for lack of a better word)
I was thinking mainly in terms of charisma of which William Berger and Fernando Sancho ooze plenty of this,and Lasky(Berger) is (like Angel Eyes in GBU) a cool villain which Light The Fuse is devoid of.Also there was none shadier corrupt businessmen in the series than Gianni Rizzo and Sydney Chaplin who so brilliantly played  Holman and Stoole.
   


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 23, 2007, 04:49:17 AM

I do as well.

Very similar to Carnimeo. A lot of zooms and handheld camera work (something I like to call "camera acrobatics"). Although I believe Parolini's style is much more polished than Carnimeo's, making him the better of the two.
Other than Gods Gun  :( which we won't talk about though Carmineo is probably even more guilty for Dick Luft In Sacremento ;D to my eyes Parolinis films are more accomplished than Carmineo's.Sartana is Parolini's best film though visually less stunning than Sabata.And i'd rate Sabata as superior to any of Carmineos Sartana/Spirito Santo/Hallelujah movies.Though I love all these movies of course  O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 23, 2007, 09:09:17 AM
Other than Gods Gun 


I've been trying to persuade you for awhile now that "God's Gun" is not that bad. It had a nice idea (Lee Van Cleef in two roles! I' am not worthy!) but it's let down by some overlong scenes of saloon girls being harassed and a some really shoddy dubbing (why they felt the need to dub LVC is beyond me).

Palance is in good goofy form here but Boone is underused.

Soundtrack is adequate.


Parolini has a spaghetti western he made before "Sartana" that has gone under our radar. It's called "LEFT HANDED JOHNNY WEST". I'm curious to track this down.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 23, 2007, 09:58:47 AM

I've been trying to persuade you for awhile now that "God's Gun" is not that bad. It had a nice idea (Lee Van Cleef in two roles! I' am not worthy!) but it's let down by some overlong scenes of saloon girls being harassed and a some really shoddy dubbing (why they felt the need to dub LVC is beyond me).

Palance is in good goofy form here but Boone is underused.

Soundtrack is adequate.


Parolini has a spaghetti western he made before "Sartana" that has gone under our radar. It's called "LEFT HANDED JOHNNY WEST". I'm curious to

 track this down.
Maybe i should reserve judgement until i see a decent widescreen print because my copy is totally horrible even for a pan and scan,but a better print can't disguise LVC's dreadful dubbing and terribly repetative  dirge of a score which i can still see ruining it for me.

Yes i'd love to see Left Handed Johnny West too!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 24, 2007, 12:23:45 PM
How come my topic jumped ahead a few pages?

And how come it says Redyred started it?   ???


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on March 24, 2007, 12:25:12 PM
I was thinking mainly in terms of charisma of which William Berger and Fernando Sancho ooze plenty of this,and Lasky(Berger) is (like Angel Eyes in GBU) a cool villain which Light The Fuse is devoid of.Also there was none shadier corrupt businessmen in the series than Gianni Rizzo and Sydney Chaplin who so brilliantly played  Holman and Stoole.
   

 O0.... good explanation

However, i believe Light the Fuse may be "devoid of a cool vallain" only because the story didn't focus very much on "Sancho's" character, and therefore created for him the benefit of being an ex "general" which gave him the license to have an entire cavalry of bandits.  This made him somewhat interesting i think, enough so that the movie can't be entirely bashed to the ground by lack of a better villain.

(just an opinion, don't hate me forever :P)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on March 24, 2007, 12:32:59 PM
O0.... good explanation

However, i believe Light the Fuse may be "devoid of a cool vallain" only because the story didn't focus very much on "Sancho's" character, and therefore created for him the benefit of being an ex "general" which gave him the license to have an entire cavalry of bandits.  This made him somewhat interesting i think, enough so that the movie can't be entirely bashed to the ground by lack of a better villain.

(just an opinion, don't hate me forever :P)


Fernando Sancho wasn't in "LIGHT THE FUSE".

You are getting (getti? get it?) confused with IF YOU MEET SARTANA, TELL HIM HE'S AN ASS-HOLE.

But it honestly doesn't matter because Banjo's arguement about "LIGHT THE FUSE..." not being up to par with the original film of the series because the lack of a good villain is petty at best (sorry buddy ;D ).

Personally I thought the villains were fine. Each having their own interesting quirks (especially Monk). Not up to par with Lasky mind you, but still good.




Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 24, 2007, 12:34:44 PM

You are getting confused with IF YOU MEET SARTANA, TELL HIM HE'S AN ASS-HOLE.


I'm dying to see that one.   :D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on March 24, 2007, 12:40:35 PM
Fernando Sancho wasn't in "LIGHT THE FUSE".

You are getting (getti? get it?) confused with IF YOU MEET SARTANA, TELL HIM HE'S AN ASS-HOLE.

But it honestly doesn't matter because Banjo's arguement about "LIGHT THE FUSE..." not being up to par with the original film of the series because the lack of a good villain is petty at best (sorry buddy ;D ).

Personally I thought the villains were fine. Each having their own interesting quirks (especially Monk). Not up to par with Lasky mind you, but still good.




Eeeek.. i knew something was out of place.  (disregard that one then, except for the "don't hate me forever" part, that one stays!!)



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on March 25, 2007, 10:50:03 AM
How come my topic jumped ahead a few pages?

And how come it says Redyred started it?   ???
There were three identical topics which have now been merged into one.Seeing that your thread is the most recently updated and contains the most replies i would've liked to have kept your name as the guy who started it but unfortunately the system only allows for the persons name who started  the original topic.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on March 25, 2007, 11:57:14 AM
There were three identical topics which have now been merged into one.Seeing that your thread is the most recently updated and contains the most replies i would've liked to have kept your name as the guy who started it but unfortunately the system only allows for the persons name who started  the original topic.


So that's what happened.


I was curious.


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Silenzio on April 19, 2007, 07:24:22 AM
Ha, check out this Banjo quote i found from one of the earlier merged threads.  It's from September 2005.

Phew,am i ever gonna catch up with your collection Marco?






Now, look at Banjo's current collection.   :o

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1103.msg62733#msg62733


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Banjo on April 19, 2007, 09:02:20 AM
Ha, check out this Banjo quote i found from one of the earlier merged threads.  It's from Septemver 2005.
Yes that's a little way before i discovered the wonderful world of trading and i've still got a large pile of unwatched sw's.A nice predicament to be in dontcha think? :)


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: Silenzio on April 19, 2007, 09:25:11 PM
A nice predicament to be in dontcha think? :)

Oh yes, certainly.



I'm writing the following because i need to remember the following films (don't ask questions [shifty eyes])

A Stranger in Town
The Stranger Returns
A Pistol for Ringo
Tepepa
10,000 dollars blood money
They Call Me Hallelujah
One Silver Dollar


Title: Re: my sw collection.
Post by: The Firecracker on April 19, 2007, 10:39:38 PM


A Stranger in Town
The Stranger Returns
A Pistol for Ringo
Tepepa
10,000 dollars blood money
They Call Me Hallelujah
One Silver Dollar


A Stranger in Town: Relies to much on Anthony sneaking around a town with a population lower than Gilligan's island searching for gold that is (un)rightfully his. Frank Wolff does his decent job as the sadistic villain who considers himself a "fair man". The best part is the final gunfight where Anthony sneaks around (Surprise! surprise!) killing Wolff's men one by one until turning his sights at Wolff himself (who has held himself up across town with a machine gun). The score is decent, but gets annoying after too many unnecessary uses.
70%

The Stranger Returns: MUCH better movie than it's predecessors (A stranger in town). After doing a piss poor Clint Eastwood impression in the first film, Anthony finally makes the character of The Stranger his own. Gives the character a dash of bizarre humor. Better villain this time. Ruthless to. A non-stop joy ride until maybe the very drawn out gunfight at the end. The score is great! Rivals "Blindman" as Anthony's best.
85%

A Pistol for Ringo: Gemma's best in my opinion. The action never let's up in this light hearted (but violent) spaghetti western. Gemma is very funny as the smart-ass gunfighter oppertunist But Fernando Sancho as the mexican bandit "Sancho" is equally as good as the comical villian and practically steals the show. Perhaps the only let-down is the hokey defeat of Sancho (wasn't executed well). Great Score by Morricone. Great sequel ("Return of ringo") followed the same year this was released.
100%

Teppepa: Starts off well but becomes draggy around the half-hour mark. There is a re-occuring flashback sequence, much like in FAFDM, where everything isn't explained until the end. Unfortunatly the pay off is dry and unimaginative. Orson Welles is in an interesting role as a villain. Milian is doing his mexican thing again, more subdued than usual. Worth a look once. Score is forgettable.
65%

10,000 blood money: Good spag starring pre-Sartana Gianni Garko. Fernando Sancho and Claudio Camaso (Gian Maria Volonte's kid brother) pop up as villains. Check out the companion film to this "Vengeance is Mine" (100,000 per killing) which is much better (classic status even). Features practically the same cast in similar roles. Unmemorable score.
80%

They call me Hallelujah: Fun Carniemo action/comedy that sometimes goes a bit overboard on the slapstick. Also the film suffers from too many characters, the cast could have been trimmed down a bit (Charles Southwood as very annoying Russian Prince for example). But take away the fat and what you have is a fun movie with some very creative gadgets (and when I say "gadgets" I mean unusual places to hide guns) and well handeled action scenes. Score is good but you'll forget it soon after.
80%


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on April 20, 2007, 05:02:18 AM
A Stranger in Town
The Stranger Returns
A Pistol for Ringo
Tepepa
10,000 dollars blood money
They Call Me Hallelujah
One Silver Dollar

A Stranger In Town:Agree with FC about the sneaking around in this poor rip-off of FOD.I also liked the score to begin but with its severe lack of variety soons outstays its welcome. :(

Stranger Returns:Like its predecessor its suffers from pacing problems but is still a significant improvement  with a much needed injection of humour,and even the score displays  much better variety but it can't compete with the fun and offbeat Blindman soundtrack.This movie as as good as Anthony got with his Stranger type(not counting the brilliant Blindman) character and i'd advise that Stranger In Japan(crappy east v west flick),Get Mean(sureal but totally dreadful from what i could handle) and Coming At Ya(a 3D sw with a very poor dvd transfer that kills your eyes.)

A Pistol For Ringo:Yes this is an adorable sw for many reasons including Gemma's cool and cocky Ringo,Fernando Sancho on top form,the gorgeous Nieves Navarro as the bad girl turned good-well almost,a great well directed siege storyline with a Xmas setting!,and one of Morricones best early sw soundtracks and the sung accompaniment oto the opening scene is truly wonderful as is the beginning of the film itself.

Tepepa-a very well made and stunning looking movie from Petroni with some wonderful set pieces.Milian plays a more subdued (Tepepa)character than normal,Orson Welles disappoints and mutters inaudibly but John Steiner is excellent as the vengeful English doctor out for the blood of his sisters murderer.Unfortunately this film suffers from pacing problems and is ultimately quite dull.The wouldn't say Morricones score is forgettable though it is derivative of his earlier stuff.The "Mexico" composition sung by Christy is earsplittingly awful.

10,000 Blood Money:Only watched once but it turned out to be not quite as good as i'd read about this Django "sequel" and (with a white cravat?) Garko doesn't compare particularly well with Franco Nero or Terence Hill who starred in the best two movies in the series.Like FC says  Claudio Camaso is very watchable in both this and Vengeance Is Mine.

They Call Me Hallelujah:A extremely enjoyable and memorable lighthearted sw for the reasons outlined by FC .However i can't stand the Charles Southwood character in this nor in Carmineo's Fistful of Lead.

One Siver Dollars:i've only watched this once.Its very  and Ameican in style but Gemma is in good form and the storylines engaging throughout.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 20, 2007, 07:23:41 AM
Two other spaghettis to... list.

No Room to Die (aka Noose for Django)
The Price of Power


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on April 20, 2007, 09:32:37 AM
Two other spaghettis to... list.

No Room to Die (aka Noose for Django)
The Price of Power


No Room To Die: An above average spag western starring Steffen (a rarity). Certainly fun to watch but doesn't really get good until the final half hour. Berger is probably the best character the film has to offer as the Preacher who carries around a really strange looking gun. Plot holes galore, but who cares?
Nice showdown at the end. Score has some bad spots, but it also has some excellent moments as well. Great direction by Garrone.
87%

Price of Power: A slightly overrated Gemma movie. Still, it has enough quirky ideas and entertainment value to warrant a few views (make it a long span of time between viewings though).
80%


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on April 20, 2007, 09:48:38 AM
No Room To Die:Yes this  is excellent stuff and probably has the edge over Garrones ( other well known sw) Django The Bastard for entertainment value though of course DJB is  unique whereas NRTD isn't particularly.No one plays a double crosser better than William Berger and the finale is obviously derived from GBU but well done all the same.This reminds me-i''ve still got to watch Garrones No Graves On Boot Hill O0
My rating 8 out of 10.

Price Of Power:I'm surprised that this movie never gets an over ethusiastic reception on these pages because this really is a top film. It's Oliver Stones JFK sw style ie pretty talky,thought provoking reminding me also of Face To Face and has plenty of action thrown in including an innovative gun duel between Gemma and Steffaneli.
My rating 8.5 out of 10.  ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 20, 2007, 05:41:00 PM
Thanks for the reviews, guys.  O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 20, 2007, 10:54:10 PM


As far as Big Gundown, I haven't seen it yet.  And yes, I've heard it's greatly overrated...


Don't listen to HIM. He's wrong! IT'S GREAT!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 20, 2007, 11:05:01 PM
My Name is Nobody

I obtained a copy of this today (in a completely... legal.... fashion).  I'd seen it twice before, and had both times had some mixed reactions about it.  I thought that, though there were some classic moments, that the commonplace slapistick humor really brought the movie down a lot.  However, after tonight's viewing, I've decided that this is a classic that deserves to be in the top ten.  Maybe it's because I'm more into spaghetti westerns now than i was before that i can appreciate the humor more.  Many parts in the film made me think of other spaghettis i had seen (particularly the works of Leone himself) and I think were done in an intentionally exaggerated manner.  For instance, the whole "three bullets, one hole" gag reminded me of the Manco/Mortimer shootout in which, afterwards, Clint only appears to have one noticeable hole in his hat for the rest of the movie afterwards (see the pic below this paragraph for reference).  Also, when Nobody shoots the shade roof outside of the building so that the three men will have to hold it up reminded me of A Fistful of Dollars, when Joe shoots down the shade roof so that it will fall on the head of one of Ramon's henchmen, thus disposing him.  Also, the "looney old man" character in this movie was a play on all the similar characters in Leone's works.  I also really like the dubbing.  I think they intentionally chose goofy dubbers for some characters, and sometimes intentionally had characters make strange noises when they perform simple actions (something i've seen to a much lesser extent in some other spaghettis).  Even though my appreciation for the Spaghetti Western Genre made me appreciate this film particularly a lot more, there were still two scenes that really brought the film down: the hall of mirrors scene and the scene where he beats all the men up with a clown in the street!  Those parts were so lame.

I'm upgrading this to a big four stars!

(http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/1159/hatholesru5.jpg)



Tomorrow morning I'll (hopefully) be watching A Stranger in Town which i also obtained in a completely.... legal... fashion.





This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *1/2
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
...If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on April 21, 2007, 07:20:59 AM
What's with the photos from FFDM?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on April 21, 2007, 07:23:57 AM
What's with the photos from FFDM?

Read his post! He's trying to prove Manco also has only one hole in it.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on April 21, 2007, 10:50:06 AM
Don't listen to HIM. He's wrong! IT'S GREAT!
In actual fact The Big Gundown is vastly UNDERated on this particular forum! :(


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on April 21, 2007, 11:05:53 AM
I don't expect you to like A Starnger in Town too much :(


I'm curious about your review of it.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 21, 2007, 11:23:58 AM
A Stranger in Town

This was a pretty stock, low-budget spaghetti, but it was able to keep me entertained.  The story is nothing special, it starts off mirroring (or, i suppose mimicking would be a better word) A Fistful of Dollars, but after about twenty minutes it starts to develop a slightly different story (although a few more allusions to Fistful can be seen less frequently throughout the movie).  The first twenty minutes of FoD rip-offs are actually pretty well made, and after the FoD rip-offs it's still good.  The desert scenes appear to be filmed in the same dump where the first Sartana movie was shot.  However, after the half-way mark the film slows down to a crawl (literally, Anthony is wounded and sneaking around the town [sound familiar?]) and brings nothing new to the table.  I found myself checking to see how soon it would be over.  But, luckily, for the last half hour the film really picks up again.  I like to see Anthony disposing baddies with a shotgun.  As i think i mentioned earlier, Anthony and Wolff have pretty stock characters, but they do decent jobs.  I'd like to see Anthony bring more of a "touch" to his character like he did with Blindman.

This movie was just entertaining enough to warrant three stars from me.




Next movie to be.... obtained.... is A Pistol for Ringo.





This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *1/2
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
...If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
A Stranger in Town ***
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 21, 2007, 11:32:23 AM
Quick question... Is the italian title for A Stranger in Town "Un Dollaro FRA I Denti" or "Un Dollaro TRA I Denti."  I've had conflicting information.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on April 21, 2007, 12:20:44 PM

Price Of Power:I'm surprised that this movie never gets an over ethusiastic reception on these pages because this really is a top film. It's Oliver Stones JFK sw style ie pretty talky,thought provoking reminding me also of Face To Face and has plenty of action thrown in including an innovative gun duel between Gemma and Steffaneli.
My rating 8.5 out of 10.  ;)
[/quote]

On the money, all the way!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on April 21, 2007, 12:24:21 PM
Yeah, that's it...A DOLLAR IN THE TEETH.

PISTOL FOR RINGO is tops. It's more American in style, but Gemma is great (as usual) as a smart a** gunman. A handful of blackly humorous moments are to be found--"Early to bed, early to rise gets you a bullet right between the eyes...", "It's a matter of principle...."

The sequel to this doesn't really have anything to do with the first film and is more serious.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 21, 2007, 12:28:58 PM
Yeah, that's it...A DOLLAR IN THE TEETH.

PISTOL FOR RINGO is tops. It's more American in style, but Gemma is great (as usual) as a smart a** gunman. A handful of blackly humorous moments are to be found--"Early to bed, early to rise gets you a bullet right between the eyes...", "It's a matter of principle...."

The sequel to this doesn't really have anything to do with the first film and is more serious.

Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to Ringo.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 21, 2007, 11:27:29 PM
A Pistol for Ringo

Simply put: this Spaghetti was excellent.  I really like Giuliano Gemma, he brought more personality to the typical, laconic SW hero (not that there's anything wrong with that).  Fernando Sancho is.... well, Fernando Sancho.  I really loved his bandit gang in this movie, particularly during the opening bank heist.  They seem relaxed, almost bored even, while they shoot down half the population of the town.  I could've sworn i saw one guy yawn after he shot down a townperson for now apparent reason.  The story is good, and Ringo does a great job of manipulating Sancho to his will.  The Christmas time period helped thsi film as well.  For instance, in the first shot, you see two guys approach each other, and you expect some kind of stand off, and then they just shake hands and say, "Merry Christmas."  That made me laugh.  I have a question, though, on the aspect ratio.  You see, on the version i pirated.... I mean... the version i "obtained" it seems that the widescreen started off as 1.85:1, and then switched to 2.35:1 for the opening credits, and then back to 1.85 for the rest of the movie.  Was the version  i saw cropped?  I've seen some sources list the proper ratio as 2.35, and yet others as 1.85, which one is correct?

Anyways, i'm currently giving this four stars, and we'll see how repeat viewings treat it.



The next movie I "obtain" next weekend will probably be.... And God Said to Cain.





This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
...If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Stranger in Town ***
Texas Adios **
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on April 22, 2007, 09:49:50 AM
I have the japanese Gemma box set and this version is probably where your disc is sourced from. I previously had a japanese VHS copy of this that was also 1:85, but I think the film is supposed to be full wide judging by some of the scenes in the picture. The other movies in the set are all 2:35:1 though.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 22, 2007, 05:44:07 PM
There's a whole box set dedicated to Gemma?  ???

Where did you get it?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 22, 2007, 08:42:37 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4hUeJCwNas

Here's a trailer that shows footage in its proper 2.35:1

Does anybody know if this film is on DVD in its correct ratio?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on April 23, 2007, 12:33:47 PM
There are at least 3 Gemma box sets from Japan. One has four movies and a limited number have a fifth disc with special features. Luckily, I was able to obtain one with the 5th disc.

The 2nd has 3 movies and the third box is a Gemma Italian war picture box set with I believe 3 movies as well.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 23, 2007, 04:43:23 PM
There are at least 3 Gemma box sets from Japan. One has four movies and a limited number have a fifth disc with special features. Luckily, I was able to obtain one with the 5th disc.

The 2nd has 3 movies and the third box is a Gemma Italian war picture box set with I believe 3 movies as well.

Cool.


Does it have English Audio or do you have to watch 'em in Italian with English Subtitles?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on April 24, 2007, 06:33:06 AM
Duck, You Sucker! *****
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
5  stars? :o

To quote guitar god Nigel Tufnel are these three sw's one louder? ;D 


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on April 24, 2007, 07:34:49 AM
5  stars? :o

To quote guitar god Nigel Tufnel are these three sw's one louder? ;D 

I already asked him once. We agreed that these are not only "must see" but "must have". ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on April 24, 2007, 12:33:08 PM
Cool.


Does it have English Audio or do you have to watch 'em in Italian with English Subtitles?

The one I have has english audio for all as well as italian tracks and eng subs. The interview disc is not subbed in english although the Alessandroni interview and Eli Wallach is in english. The 30 minute Gemma interview is in italian only but he does revert to english from time to time.

The other Gemma box has english tracks for only one movie BLOOD ON A SILVER DOLLAR if I remember correctly. The other two are FORT YUMA GOLD and ARIZONA COLT. These are italian only tracks.

The war box I think has english tracks for all three titles.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 24, 2007, 02:59:11 PM
5  stars? :o

To quote guitar god Nigel Tufnel are these three sw's one louder? ;D 

Yeah, yeah! When we really want that extra push... we turn it up to five.




Firecracker thinks he's too GOOD for that movie.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on April 24, 2007, 04:58:54 PM
Yeah, yeah! When we really want that extra push... we turn it up to five.




Firecracker thinks he's too GOOD for that movie.


which movie?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 24, 2007, 05:00:19 PM

which movie?

This Is Spinal Tap.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on April 30, 2007, 09:02:38 AM
Time to update my list. :)

FOD
FFDM
GBU
OUATITW
DYS
The Specialist
My Name Is Nobody
Django


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on April 30, 2007, 05:58:17 PM
Two quick reciews:

Return of Sabata -- A quite inconsistent film.  There are some great moments, but also too many lame parts to bring it down.  Some good moments, for example, is Sabata's duel using the see-saw device, but, of course, a lame moment follows with a bad attempt at comedy.  The Sabata standards are here, with the untrustworthy friend and the acrobats.  The score is as inconsistent as the movie.  Everything outside of the main theme is good, but the main theme is a poorly thrown together piece that has no place in a Spaghetti, and lyrics that were probably written out in five minutes.  There's a gag in the lyrics ripped off from the last line of "The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly."  This is the second time Parolini ripped off that gag, with the first being in Indio Black, a.k.a. Adios, Sabata.  This film kept me entertained enough, though, to warrant a two-and-a-half star rating.

And God Said to Cain -- atmospheric horror-spaghetti that is quite well directed, but gets a little boring with Klaus Kinski disposing of henchmen one by one throughout the movie.  This is also has the most effective "mirror" sequence I've seen in a spaghetti.  The fact that Klaus Kinski plays the HERO is alone enough to warrant three stars.










This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
...If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Stranger in Town ***
Texas Adios **
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 01, 2007, 04:33:52 PM
Yes both movies are very well summed up Silenzio,and its great to see the entertaining Return Of Sabata
not dismissed for a change. O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Leone Admirer on May 01, 2007, 04:38:17 PM
Sabata...... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I can see that trio haunting me for years to come....


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 01, 2007, 05:10:49 PM
10,000 Dollars Blood Money -- A well-crafted spaghetti with everybody's favorite anti-hero Gianni Garko.  This movie was solid in every aspect.  That's really the only word you can describe it as: "solid."  The music was good, but not very memorable, the direction was good, with one or two eye-catching angles, the plot was decent, and the actors were good.  Garko really just has to be himself to be a good anti-hero.  My only problem with the villain was that they REALLY lathered on the make-up, and the dubber was trying too hard to sound Mexican in a few parts.  I can forgive that, though.  Garko plays a bounty killer named Django (what else) who decides to go after Manuel Vasquez, for no particular reason other than that it's his job.  He tries to milk his job for all he can, though, so when Manuel kidnaps a wealthy land-owner's daughter, he gets the land-owner to offer him 5,000 dollars for the return of his daughter.  When you add that to the 5,000 dollar bounty that the government already put on Manuel's head, you get "a tidy sum" (in the words of Angel Eyes).  Hence the title of the movie.  There's a romance sub-plot that doesn't really work well... at all... in fact, it's pretty annoying, but this later goes on to contribute to the main plot of the film (if you watch the movie, you'll know what i'm talking about).

***



I'm getting my next SW from our member Eric (indirectly): They Call Me Hallelujah.









This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
...If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Stranger in Town ***
Texas Adios **
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 01, 2007, 05:12:08 PM
Sabata...... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! I can see that trio haunting me for years to come....
You didn't like Adios Sabata either,even with the wonderful Bruno Nicolai score?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 01, 2007, 05:16:16 PM
10,000 Dollars Blood Money -- A well-crafted spaghetti with everybody's favorite anti-hero Gianni Garko.  This movie was solid in every aspect.  That's really the only word you can describe it as: "solid."  The music was good, but not very memorable, the direction was good, with one or two eye-catching angles, the plot was decent, and the actors were good.  Garko really just has to be himself to be a good anti-hero.  My only problem with the villain was that they REALLY lathered on the make-up, and the dubber was trying too hard to sound Mexican in a few parts.  I can forgive that, though.  Garko plays a bounty killer named Django (what else) who decides to go after Manuel Vasquez, for no particular reason other than that it's his job.  He tries to milk his job for all he can, though, so when Manuel kidnaps a wealthy land-owner's daughter, he gets the land-owner to offer him 5,000 dollars for the return of his daughter.  When you add that to the 5,000 dollar bounty that the government already put on Manuel's head, you get "a tidy sum" (in the words of Angel Eyes).  Hence the title of the movie.  There's a romance sub-plot that doesn't really work well... at all... in fact, it's pretty annoying, but this later goes on to contribute to the main plot of the film (if you watch the movie, you'll know what i'm talking about).

***



I'm getting my next SW from our member Eric (indirectly): They Call Me Hallelujah.









This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
...If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Stranger in Town ***
Texas Adios **
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2
I only watched this once well over a year ago so i'm struggling to remember this one which is probably an indication that i didn't think too highly of it.But the make up?Yes i do remember all the mascara and the silly white scarf worn by Garko. ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 02, 2007, 12:13:31 AM
10,000 Dollars Blood Money -- A well-crafted spaghetti with everybody's favorite anti-hero Gianni Garko.  This movie was solid in every aspect.  That's really the only word you can describe it as: "solid."  The music was good, but not very memorable, the direction was good, with one or two eye-catching angles, the plot was decent, and the actors were good.  Garko really just has to be himself to be a good anti-hero.  My only problem with the villain was that they REALLY lathered on the make-up, and the dubber was trying too hard to sound Mexican in a few parts.  I can forgive that, though.  Garko plays a bounty killer named Django (what else) who decides to go after Manuel Vasquez, for no particular reason other than that it's his job.  He tries to milk his job for all he can, though, so when Manuel kidnaps a wealthy land-owner's daughter, he gets the land-owner to offer him 5,000 dollars for the return of his daughter.  When you add that to the 5,000 dollar bounty that the government already put on Manuel's head, you get "a tidy sum" (in the words of Angel Eyes).  Hence the title of the movie.  There's a romance sub-plot that doesn't really work well... at all... in fact, it's pretty annoying, but this later goes on to contribute to the main plot of the film (if you watch the movie, you'll know what i'm talking about).

***





I thought the romance was well done. One of the few things I remember about the film. It works so well that it hits you hard when the terrible thing happens :-X.
The scorpion torture could have been longer...
I remember this not really getting off the ground until the final shootout in a creepy town where Garko is almost ghost like.
Silenzio, do yourself a favor and catch this film's twin brother "Vengeance is Mine" (100,000 per massacre). It's much better than this let-down.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 02, 2007, 09:26:32 AM

I thought the romance was well done. One of the few things I remember about the film. It works so well that it hits you hard when the terrible thing happens :-X.


Like I said, I had a problem with a romance at first, but I didn't mind it so much after the  :-X .


I'll check out Vengeance is Mine when I have a chance.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 02, 2007, 09:49:37 AM
Hey, Firecracker, speaking of Scorpion torture scenes, this film has a much better one than 10,000 Dollars Blood Money:




They Call Me Hallelujah -- My first Carmineo spaghetti! Yaaay! He left a great impression with this excellent Spaghetti Western.  Carmineo's slick, stylish direction aids George Hilton's laid back presence as the anti-hero Hallelujah.  And i mean laid back.  That's what makes this character so cool; he seems to have such a control on the situation that he goes about a gunfight relaxed and even bored.  The film's about Hallelujah who is working for Mexican Revolutionaries to steal a shipment of gold from the Mexican Government, but, of course, it turns out not only the Revolutionaries want the gold, there's a Russian, Mr. Kranz, and  a nun after the gold as well. Did I forget to mention Hilton has an ultra-cool machine gun disguised as a sewing machine? This is the best George Hilton western I've seen yet, and i really liked him in this role.  The music was really good as well, and, as I already said, the direction is top notch.  The slapstick comedy in this movie (of which there's not a whole lot) was tolerable, and better executed than most of the other spaghetti attempts at slapstick.  The Russian's trip-out dance sequence was the best trip-out dance sequence I've seen in an SW (waaaay better than the one in 10,000 Dollars Blood Money).  I can't wait to see what Carmineo did with the Sartana series!

*** 1/2









This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
...If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Stranger in Town ***
Texas Adios **
They Call Me Hallelujah *** 1/2
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 02, 2007, 10:21:35 AM
  The Russian's trip-out dance sequence was the best trip-out dance sequence I've seen in an SW (waaaay better than the one in 10,000 Dollars Blood Money).  I can't wait to see what Carmineo did with the Sartana series!
I love that sewing machine gun too. :)

You mean you actually liked the Charles Southwood character,for me the films major flaw? :o

However Hallelujah could be my favourite Hilton character/film though i think that Red Blood,Yellow Gold was really good too.

Carmineo's take on Sartana is in a more light-hearted vein than the original and unfortunately Fistful Of Lead(the one starring Hilton and again an annoying Southwood character) is probably the weakest(still ok though O0) of the lot but a nice widescreen print may benefit it.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 03, 2007, 12:45:27 AM
Hey, Firecracker, speaking of Scorpion torture scenes, this film has a much better one than 10,000 Dollars Blood Money:




They Call Me Hallelujah -- My first Carmineo spaghetti! Yaaay! He left a great impression with this excellent Spaghetti Western.  Carmineo's slick, stylish direction aids George Hilton's laid back presence as the anti-hero Hallelujah.  And i mean laid back.  That's what makes this character so cool; he seems to have such a control on the situation that he goes about a gunfight relaxed and even bored.  The film's about Hallelujah who is working for Mexican Revolutionaries to steal a shipment of gold from the Mexican Government, but, of course, it turns out not only the Revolutionaries want the gold, there's a Russian, Mr. Kranz, and  a nun after the gold as well. Did I forget to mention Hilton has an ultra-cool machine gun disguised as a sewing machine? This is the best George Hilton western I've seen yet, and i really liked him in this role.  The music was really good as well, and, as I already said, the direction is top notch.  The slapstick comedy in this movie (of which there's not a whole lot) was tolerable, and better executed than most of the other spaghetti attempts at slapstick.  The Russian's trip-out dance sequence was the best trip-out dance sequence I've seen in an SW (waaaay better than the one in 10,000 Dollars Blood Money).  I can't wait to see what Carmineo did with the Sartana series!

*** 1/2



This one is fun but it has a lot of problems. It's needlessly confusing for one (maybe I could benefit from an english track as opposed to reading subs) and the Soutwood character gets on one's nerves rather quickly.
You can see where Carnimeo began going overboard on the slapstick in the final gunfight.

Carnimeo's shining moment is the Sartana sequels (including the George Hilton experiment).


Tonight I just finished watching is very early western "The moment to Kill". It wasn't bad. 80% I'd say. It has a few dull moments and too many gunfights set at night (Difficult to see anything). The film's bizarre ending leaves you dissatisfied.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 03, 2007, 01:53:05 AM
This one is fun but it has a lot of problems. It's needlessly confusing for one (maybe I could benefit from an english track as opposed to reading subs) and the Soutwood character gets on one's nerves rather quickly.
You can see where Carnimeo began going overboard on the slapstick in the final gunfight.

Carnimeo's shining moment is the Sartana sequels (including the George Hilton experiment).


Tonight I just finished watching is very early western "The moment to Kill". It wasn't bad. 80% I'd say. It has a few dull moments and too many gunfights set at night (Difficult to see anything). The film's bizarre ending leaves you dissatisfied.
Yes they liked to make all these Sartana/Hallelujah films hard to follow though anything post Parolini's Sartana is a doddle.

I'm glad that you finally saw Moment To Kill and yes it is quite dull and slow in places but at least there's Horst Frank to liven things up,but overall disappointing.As regards Carmineo's sw cannon i'd place this below Sartana/Hallelujah/Holy Ghost but above Crazy Bunch(of course ;D).Yes the Sartana films are Carmineo's crowning glory. :)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 03, 2007, 02:06:50 AM


I'm glad that you finally saw Moment To Kill and yes it is quite dull and slow in places but at least there's Horst Frank to liven things up,but overall disappointing.As regards Carmineo's sw cannon i'd place this below Sartana/Hallelujah/Holy Ghost but above Crazy Bunch(of course ;D).Yes the Sartana films are Carmineo's crowning glory. :)

I'd certainly place it above "The Crazy Bunch", "They call him Cemetery", "man called invincible" and the awful "Find a place to die".

Though "The moment to kill" has it's flaws, it showcases Carnimeo's direction at it's finest.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 03, 2007, 02:19:33 AM
I'd certainly place it above "The Crazy Bunch", "They call him Cemetery", "man called invincible" and the awful "Find a place to die".

Though "The moment to kill" has it's flaws, it showcases Carnimeo's direction at it's finest.
I was thinking of the more obvious Carmineo's but apart from the annoying brothers They Call Him Cemetery is really enjoyable,Berger or Barnes?no contest ;),and the music in Cemetery is terrific.

Find A Place To Die i watched only once and it doesn't seem like a Carmineo film.

Haven't seen Man Called Invincible.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 03, 2007, 02:26:22 AM
I was thinking of the more obvious Carmineo's but apart from the annoying brothers They Call Him Cemetery is really enjoyable,Berger or Barnes?no contest ;),and the music in Cemetery is terrific.




Something about "Cemetery" didn't do it for me. The music is tops, agreed on that but I thought the movie was bland. Again, I think an english dub would help as well here.

And your right about FIND A PLACE TO DIE it certainly doesn't feel like a Carnimeo film at all. Had it not been for the sexy female lead I would have ejected it from my dvd player an hour in.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 03, 2007, 02:30:39 AM

Something about "Cemetery" didn't do it for me. The music is tops, agreed on that but I thought the movie was bland. Again, I think an english dub would help as well here.
Yes films being subtitled does hamper the enjoyment somewhat.I'm tempted by the dvd that Shobary reviews but have been put off because he says the English audio is muffled.You're probably right about the blandness but MTK suffers from this too.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 03, 2007, 07:21:09 AM

You mean you actually liked the Charles Southwood character,for me the films major flaw? :o


I don't like him, but I certainly didn't mind him.  I don't know why you and the Firecracker found him so annoying.  ??? He doesn't have that big of a role anyway.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 03, 2007, 02:03:44 PM
  I don't know why you and the Firecracker found him so annoying.  ???

That ridiculous and uneeded dance didn't help.

I don't mind Southwood as Sartana's rival, Sabbath, in "Sartana is here, trade your pistols for a coffin" but here he is just not welcome.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 04, 2007, 10:01:28 AM
Marco Leone(one of our old regulars) ran a thread about this and he expressed similar opinions about Southwood etc after such an excellent start to the movie.

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=2526.0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 05, 2007, 12:41:59 PM
I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death -- My second of the Sartana series, and my second Carmineo film as well.  With a director like that, and the great SW actors like Frank Wolff, Gianni Garko, and Klaus Kinski, it's really hard to go wrong with this SW.  And it doesn't go wrong.  This movie is not a failure, but it's not great, either.  The plot is pretty good (Sartana is framed for a robbery) but by the last fifteen minutes or so it gets really convoluted (and not in a good "If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death" convoluted, I mean like convoluted but I really don't care whether or not I know what's going on).  It's still and interesting and fun watch, though.  The score seems a little uninspired, I'd say.  Klaus Kinski's theme rips off from the most unlikely place.... "Santa Claus is Coming to Town."  And one scene has a melody very similar to " 'Pop' Goes the Weasel."  I hope the other Garko-Sartanas are better than this movie.

***











This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death ***
If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Stranger in Town ** 1/2
Texas Adios **
They Call Me Hallelujah *** 1/2
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 05, 2007, 12:58:51 PM
  I hope the other Garko-Sartanas are better than this movie.


Don't worry they are. This is the weakest link of the Sartana series (up there with the George Hilton entry).

It had the potential to be the best (has a promising first 30 minutes with all the bounty hunters after Sartana) but it falls short somewhere in the middle.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 06, 2007, 07:15:44 PM
Viva Django The only unofficial Django sequel that actually acknowledges the existance of the first film.  It has Terence Hill (looking a lot like Franco Nero) in the role.  This is, by far, the most  badass i've ever seen Hill (though I haven't seen God Forgives, I Don't yet).  Just take a look at the scene **SPOILERS** when Django shoots down all of Horst Frank's men in the burning saloon.  If that's not badass, I don't know what it is. **SPOILERS END** The music is great, and very, very catchy.  It's pretty good.  Not many surprises, but it's quite well made.  It's now tied with Django the Bastard for my favorite "sequel."

***


My reviews are getting shorter every time....









This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death ***
If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Stranger in Town ** 1/2
Texas Adios **
They Call Me Hallelujah *** 1/2
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Viva Django ***
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 07, 2007, 03:45:08 PM
Viva Django The only unofficial Django sequel that actually acknowledges the existance of the first film.  It has Terence Hill (looking a lot like Franco Nero) in the role.  This is, by far, the most  badass i've ever seen Hill (though I haven't seen God Forgives, I Don't yet).  Just take a look at the scene **SPOILERS** when Django shoots down all of Horst Frank's men in the burning saloon.  If that's not badass, I don't know what it is. **SPOILERS END** The music is great, and very, very catchy.  It's pretty good.  Not many surprises, but it's quite well made.  It's now tied with Django the Bastard for my favorite "sequel."

***




I like it but it could've been better. I think too many online spoilers ruin films like this.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on May 07, 2007, 07:46:06 PM
Have you seen Ace High? I've still not seen God Forgives, but Hill is pretty badass in that too.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 07, 2007, 08:08:52 PM
Have you seen Ace High? I've still not seen God Forgives, but Hill is pretty badass in that too.

Yeah, i've seen Ace High but i've never liked it that much.  Hill is more badass in this.  I've stayed away from Boot Hill.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 08, 2007, 06:29:50 AM
I mean like convoluted but I really don't care whether or not I know what's going on).
That probably explains why there are seemingly no takers for my suggestion on the Sartana Angel Of Death thread   of a reconstruction just so we can attempt to clear up the ambiguities in the last 15 minutes or so.

I agree with FC that this is easily the worst in the Garko series and i'm certain you'll love the other two. O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 08, 2007, 06:39:01 AM
Viva Django The only unofficial Django sequel that actually acknowledges the existance of the first film.  It has Terence Hill (looking a lot like Franco Nero) in the role.  This is, by far, the most  badass i've ever seen Hill (though I haven't seen God Forgives, I Don't yet).  Just take a look at the scene **SPOILERS** when Django shoots down all of Horst Frank's men in the burning saloon.  If that's not badass, I don't know what it is. **SPOILERS END** The music is great, and very, very catchy.  It's pretty good.  Not many surprises, but it's quite well made.  It's now tied with Django the Bastard for my favorite "sequel."

Yes in my books the "most badass" Hill sw ,and i've seen the dreary God Forgives,I Don't.

Definately my favourite Django sequel.Many of the set pieces are stunning,i love the idea of Django The Hangman,Horst Frank rules ,a wonderful finale,the score totally brilliant and this film is the ONLY sequel or if you like prequel to retain the spirit of Corbucci's film. O0 O0 O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 08, 2007, 10:32:16 AM


I agree with FC that this is easily the worst in the Garko series and i'm certain you'll love the other two. O0


I began watching it last night with Sonny. We'll try to finish it tonight.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Arizona Colt on May 08, 2007, 02:20:11 PM
I guess me and the Italian audience of 1967 are the only ones with love for GOD FORGIVES, I DON'T.  :(

Remember people...seeds were planted in this movie. Without this film, there may have been no TRINITY.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 08, 2007, 03:50:55 PM
I guess me and the Italian audience of 1967 are the only ones with love for GOD FORGIVES, I DON'T.  :(

Remember people...seeds were planted in this movie. Without this film, there may have been no TRINITY.
My comments are perhaps slightly unfair because i have such a dreadful print and i've no doubt that i'll be picking a copy of a decent widescreen dvd when it emerges.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 08, 2007, 03:52:45 PM

I began watching it last night with Sonny. We'll try to finish it tonight.
Are you up for this reconstruction then FC because i have a feeling Titoli may help us out with any plot gaps?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 08, 2007, 03:57:54 PM
I don't care enough about the movie to watch it again so soon.  Tonight's viewing is something much better (hopefully).  Navajo Joe in widescreen.  O0

The only scene i want to watch again is the "The only queen i pull... is the queen of spades."  Because I did NOT get that line.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 08, 2007, 04:18:24 PM
I don't care enough about the movie to watch it again so soon.  Tonight's viewing is something much better (hopefully).  Navajo Joe in widescreen.  O0

The only scene i want to watch again is the "The only queen i pull... is the queen of spades."  Because I did NOT get that line.
I haven't watched that Sartana film in yonks so i'll give it another look if FC's doing the same.

Is your Navajo Joe the same Japanese version as mine?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 08, 2007, 05:23:35 PM
Are you up for this reconstruction then FC because i have a feeling Titoli may help us out with any plot gaps?


Yeah I'm up.

Just give a day or so to finish it.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on May 08, 2007, 07:15:07 PM
I don't care enough about the movie to watch it again so soon. 


That's just another way of saying you didn't like it... ;D

You can be honest, most would agree with you.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 09, 2007, 07:32:13 AM
Well Silenzio gave it a *** (recommended)rating so he can't think its too bad.I care because cracking the finale may enhance my enjoyment of it.

Its a good sw but there's some niggly things about it like Kinski's unsatisfactory early exit,Wolfs annoying Buddy Ben character,the crappy score apart from the ok main theme and the undecipherable last 10/15minutes which keep it much lower in my estimation than the other three.



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on May 09, 2007, 09:23:04 AM
I'm trying to construct my own decent widescreen English dubbed version. I'll let you know how it goes.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on May 10, 2007, 09:47:49 PM
Anyone here speak Italian? I need about 15 minutes of a movie translated....


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 14, 2007, 05:28:17 PM
Navajo Joe -- I was really psyched to see this famed Corbucci spaghetti.  It started off very promising.  In fact, I'd say the first ten or so minutes are the highlight of the film (up until Joe kills the two guys Aldo sends up to nab him).  The opening scene was very brutal, and Aldo Sambrell's ride to town with his oversized gang (and Morricone's heart-pounding score) was also very good.  Almeria was awesomely photographed in this picture.  The final showdown between Reynolds and Sambrell is also mind-blowing.  Burt Reynolds was famous for having claimed that "The movie is so bad that they only showed it in airplanes and prisons so nobody could walk out."  However, I'm thinking Reynolds probably only watched the scenes he was in.  Honestly, I didn't like Burt in the role.  He wasn't bad, but he CERTAINLY wasn't good either.  Luckily, Joe doesn't talk a whole lot (especially during the first half).  I watched this a week ago, so there are a few things i can't remember, but i do remember that my main gripe with the movie is a few lame scenes, like Reynolds disposing of the gang who's hanging around the train.  That was a really.... really.... laughable scene.

I'm torn between three and a half and four for this one, but i'm going to give it a repeat soon (within the next week.)

I'm so glad i saw this widescreen.








This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death ***
If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Navajo Joe ***1/2 or **** (haven't decided)
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Stranger in Town ** 1/2
Texas Adios **
They Call Me Hallelujah *** 1/2
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Viva Django ***
W Django * 1/2


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 14, 2007, 08:35:08 PM
Navajo Joe -- I was really psyched to see this famed Corbucci spaghetti.  It started off very promising.  In fact, I'd say the first ten or so minutes are the highlight of the film (up until Joe kills the two guys Aldo sends up to nab him).  The opening scene was very brutal, and Aldo Sambrell's ride to town with his oversized gang (and Morricone's heart-pounding score) was also very good.  Almeria was awesomely photographed in this picture.  The final showdown between Reynolds and Sambrell is also mind-blowing.  Burt Reynolds was famous for having claimed that "The movie is so bad that they only showed it in airplanes and prisons so nobody could walk out."  However, I'm thinking Reynolds probably only watched the scenes he was in.  Honestly, I didn't like Burt in the role.  He wasn't bad, but he CERTAINLY wasn't good either.  Luckily, Joe doesn't talk a whole lot (especially during the first half).  I watched this a week ago, so there are a few things i can't remember, but i do remember that my main gripe with the movie is a few lame scenes, like Reynolds disposing of the gang who's hanging around the train.  That was a really.... really.... laughable scene.




Reynolds has a long history of being a complete douchebag. I'm sure he was just angry because he didn't become a superstar like Clint did after his Italian western outing.

I like the sneaking around scene on the train. I enjoy NJ getting close and personal with his opponents as oppsed to shooting them from afar.

What brings the movie down is the laughably bad decisions some of the characters make.
It's still a classic!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 15, 2007, 02:30:04 AM
NJ is not one of my favourite Corbucci's but its still a good sw and Morricones score makes it a must. :)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 15, 2007, 04:10:31 PM

Reynolds has a long history of being a complete douchebag. I'm sure he was just angry because he didn't become a superstar like Clint did after his Italian western outing.

I like the sneaking around scene on the train. I enjoy NJ getting close and personal with his opponents as oppsed to shooting them from afar.

What brings the movie down is the laughably bad decisions some of the characters make.
It's still a classic!

I agree with Silenzio on this one.

I like the idea of the scene but it was executed so poorly.


I like the way he cover about 1/4 of the rifle with his jacket and all of a sudden it was a silencer.   ::)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 15, 2007, 05:18:25 PM
The most hilarious shot in the history of cinema....

A random heavy is walking around the side of the train... all of a sudden from the other side of the frame, Burt Reynolds' fist jets out of nowhere and hits the guy in the face.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 16, 2007, 06:47:23 AM
The most hilarious shot in the history of cinema....

A random heavy is walking around the side of the train... all of a sudden from the other side of the frame, Burt Reynolds' fist jets out of nowhere and hits the guy in the face.
But not as funny as the "highlights" YouTube video FC put up of the Wicker Man remake where Nicolas Cage so manfullly does his Rocky Balboa act on a group of women. ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on May 18, 2007, 01:48:54 AM

Wow, Silenzio's list is getting pretty long.  Better look out FC.

That deserves two thumbs way up.  ;D

 O0 O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 18, 2007, 04:16:03 AM
I'm really pissed off as i was sifting through all my unwatched sw's yesterday to find out that Massacre At Grand Canyon,Corbucci's debut is duff,and i never got the chance to see it. :(


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on May 18, 2007, 04:26:16 AM
I'm really pissed off as i was sifting through all my unwatched sw's yesterday to find out that Massacre At Grand Canyon,Corbucci's debut is duff,and i never got the chance to see it. :(


He is an assistant director.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 18, 2007, 04:32:24 AM
Yes thats right.i think Albert Band was the other guy.

Band directed the supposed Hellbenders "prequel" of sorts,The Tramplers which i found to be very dull.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on May 18, 2007, 01:35:36 PM
I'm really pissed off as i was sifting through all my unwatched sw's yesterday to find out that Massacre At Grand Canyon,Corbucci's debut is duff,and i never got the chance to see it. :(

 that sucks Banjo.

I guess now we know why FC's head is constantly overflowing with WAY TOO MANY SWs AND info about them...

he watches all his stuff as soon as he gets his hands on it. 


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 18, 2007, 04:10:06 PM
Well it looks like a cheap and cheerful dvd which are known sometimes to deteriorate after a short while.Next time i'll have to back it up onto another disc.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on May 21, 2007, 09:07:01 PM


Band directed the supposed Hellbenders "prequel" of sorts,The Tramplers which i found to be very dull.

I just looked up the film.  It appears from the plot summary that Joseph Cotten (love him) plays a very similar character.  Is it really a prequel? 

Also, Franco Nero's in it.  O0  O0  O0


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Eric on May 22, 2007, 11:53:51 PM
Here's the list I have right now. Movies in varying quality. Some DVDs. Some VHSes from flea markets. Some ripped from Netflix DVDs. Some burned from others' copies. Some AVIs found via piracy means. I ain't none too proud, but I'm slowly slowly working to replace those whose legality is in question as I find them available from places like Exploited.

More than a few of these are barely watchable in their current formats. So please don't ask me to review Black Jack until I get a copy that isn't what seems like a taped off of television pan n' scan of an already fullscreen.

$10,000 Blood Money
Ace High
Adios Sabata
And For a Roof, A Sky Full of Stars
Animal Called Man, An
Any Gun Can Play
Bad Man's River
Beyond the Law
Big Gundown, The
Black Jack
Black Killer
Blindman
Blood at Sundown
Boot Hill
Bounty Killer, The / The Ugly Ones
Bullet for Sandoval
Bullet For the General
Cemetery Without Crosses
Charge!
Coffin For the Sheriff, A
Companeros (Vamos a matar)
Cut-throats Nine
Day of Anger
Dead Aim / Lucky Johnny: Born in America
Death Rides a Horse
Death Sentence
Dirty Outlaws
Django
Django II
Django...Kill! If You Live, Shoot!
Django the Bastard (The Stranger's Gundown)
Dollar For the Dead (Spaghetti Tribute)
El Topo
Face to Face
Few Dollars for Django
Fighting Fists of Shanghai Joe
Fistful of Dollars
Fistful of Dynamite (Duck, You Sucker!)
Five Man Army
For a Few Dollars More
Forgotten Pistolero
Four of the Apocalypse
Genius, Two Partners and a Dupe, A (Nobody's the Greatest)
God Forgives, I Don't
God Said to Cain
Good, the Bad and the Ugly, The
Grand Duel, The
Great Silence, The
Guns for San Sebastian
Hallelujah for Django
Have a Good Funeral, Sartana Will Pay
Hills Run Red, The
His Name Was Sam Walbash, But they Call Him Amen / Savage Guns
I Am Sartana, Trade Your Guns for a Coffin
I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death
If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death
In a Colt's Shadow
Johnny Hamlet
Jonathan of the Bears
Keoma
Last Pistolero, The
Light the Fuse, Sartana is Coming
Long Days of Vengeance
Lucky Luke
Man Called Apocalypse Joe, A
Man Called Sledge, A
Man, His Pride and His Vengeance
Mannaja, A Man Called Blade
Massacre at the Grand Canyon
Massacre Time
Matalo!
Mercenary, The
Minute to Pray, a Second to Die, A
My Name is Nobody
Navajo Joe
Noose For Django
Once Upon a Time in the West
Pistol For a Hundred Coffins
Pistol For Ringo
Price of Power
Reason to Live, A Reason to Die, A
Red Sun
Requiescant
Return of Ringo
Return of Sabata
Ringo and His Golden Pistol / Johnny Oro
Run Man Run
Sabata
Sartana Kills Them All
Seven Guns for the MacGregors
Shanghai Joe
Shoot, Gringo, Shoot!
Shoot the Living and Pray For the Dead
Sonny and Jed
Son of Django
Specialist, The
Straight to Hell (Spaghetti Homage)
Stranger and the Gunfighter
Stranger in Town, A
Stranger Returns
Taste of Killing
Tepepa
Texas, Adios
They Call Him Cemetery
They Call Me Hallelujah
They Call Me Trinity
They Still Call Me Trinity
Today We Kill, Tomorrow We Die
Vengeance
Viva Django
Wanted
W Django
What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on May 23, 2007, 12:18:56 AM
More than a few of these are barely watchable in their current formats. So please don't ask me to review Black Jack until I get a copy that isn't what seems like a taped off of television pan n' scan of an already fullscreen.

 ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Banjo on May 26, 2007, 03:29:46 AM
I just looked up the film.  It appears from the plot summary that Joseph Cotten (love him) plays a very similar character.  Is it really a prequel? 

Also, Franco Nero's in it.  O0  O0  O0
Only in terms of the subject matter ie Deep South biggotry, and of course Cotten plays a similar character in both movies.Hellbenders is tons better though!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on July 19, 2007, 11:00:55 AM
Yes, Hellbenders is excellent.


Sonny and Jed -- I did not enjoy this movie very much.  It seems that for the first half of the movie Jed just treats Sonny like shit and yet she still gives that lame "I love you!" speech towards the middle.  I'll admit, the first time I saw Jed slap Sonny and watch her roll down an entire hill, I just laughed and laughed, but after thirty minutes of non-stop misogynism, it really really got old.  During the second half you get to see a little more into Jed's character, and that he's really just a very strange, pretty pathetic guy.  Still, looking past all that, this movie isn't really all that entertaining.  I wouldn't recommend it, but I'm not going to pan it either. 

**








This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death ***
If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
My Name is Nobody ****
The Mercenary ***1/2
Navajo Joe ***1/2 or **** (haven't decided)
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Sonny and Jed **
Stranger in Town ** 1/2
Texas Adios **
They Call Me Hallelujah *** 1/2
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Viva Django ***
W Django * 1/2



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on July 19, 2007, 12:08:57 PM

Sonny and Jed -- I did not enjoy this movie very much.  It seems that for the first half of the movie Jed just treats Sonny like shit and yet she still gives that lame "I love you!" speech towards the middle.  I'll admit, the first time I saw Jed slap Sonny and watch her roll down an entire hill, I just laughed and laughed, but after thirty minutes of non-stop misogynism, it really really got old.  During the second half you get to see a little more into Jed's character, and that he's really just a very strange, pretty pathetic guy.  Still, looking past all that, this movie isn't really all that entertaining.  I wouldn't recommend it, but I'm not going to pan it either. 




told ya...  ;D it's not that it sucks, it's just not very good. (Yes, there is a difference)

Something funny, Millian actually had an affair with Susan George while making Sonny and Jed... :o

He must've been like over 35, and she seems like she couldn't have been older than 18.



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 19, 2007, 12:32:26 PM

He must've been like over 35, and she seems like she couldn't have been older than 18.



On imdb it says that she was born in 1950 so at the time of the film she was 22.


However, it also says that Milian was born in 1932 making him 40. That's a pretty big age difference.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on July 19, 2007, 06:29:24 PM



Something funny, Millian actually had an affair with Susan George while making Sonny and Jed... :o

He must've been like over 35, and she seems like she couldn't have been older than 18.



well that is what I read on some site. Since this is the internet you have to take that sort of information with a grain of salt.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on July 19, 2007, 09:59:33 PM

told ya...  ;D it's not that it sucks, it's just not very good. (Yes, there is a difference)





That's not at all what you said.. you said it was pretty good and that I should watch it.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on July 19, 2007, 10:31:21 PM
That's not at all what you said.. you said it was pretty good and that I should watch it.

well it is pretty good isn't it?
I wouldn't call it average.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on July 19, 2007, 10:34:36 PM
well it is pretty good isn't it?
I wouldn't call it average.


Well, I would (note the two star rating).


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 20, 2007, 11:28:24 AM
Well, I would (note the two star rating).

pwned.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on July 20, 2007, 01:20:27 PM
pwned.

Yeah, what a n00b.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 20, 2007, 01:21:23 PM
Yeah, what a n00b.

Now, now. Let's not use such foul language!




THERE'S CHILDREN HERE!!!!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on July 20, 2007, 01:22:13 PM
Now, now. Let's not use such foul language!




THERE'S CHILDREN HERE!!!!

Isn't it a little ironic that you mention that to the youngest member of the board...


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on July 20, 2007, 01:26:19 PM
Isn't it a little ironic that you mention that to the youngest member of the board...

2nd youngest. FragglePants is younger.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 20, 2007, 01:34:04 PM
2nd youngest. FragglePants is younger.

Who?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on July 20, 2007, 01:34:25 PM
2nd youngest. FragglePants is younger.

You actually made me look at the members list only to find out there was no fragglepants, you bastard.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on July 20, 2007, 01:39:01 PM
You actually made me look at the members list only to find out there was no fragglepants, you bastard.

 ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on July 30, 2007, 09:33:25 PM
Matalo -- Very bizarre but intriguing Spaghetti.  It's very "psychedelic"  and relies more on visually interesting scenes than dialogue.  In fact, I'd say that the dialogue (and pretty much plot) of the film are next to non-existant.  All that this movie wants to do is take your eyes and ears on a trip unlike any you've seen in the Western genre, and it does it very well.  The music is excellent (would've thought to put psychedelic rock music in a western?  Obviously the same guys who made a psychedelic western...).  You also get your fair share of the expected spaghetti over-the-top idiosyncracies.  Imaginative and sadistic tortures.... weird weapons (who would've thought of a boomerang!?) and a whole lotta atmosphere.  The almost subliminal flashing of the red-tinged eye close-up was really cool at first in that scene, but eventually it just got a little annoying.  Highly recommended for style, but the complete absence of substance gives this a rating of...

***








This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
The Hellbenders ****
I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death ***
If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
Matalo ***
The Mercenary ***1/2
My Name is Nobody ****
Navajo Joe ***1/2 or **** (haven't decided)
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata ***1/2
Sonny and Jed **
Stranger in Town ** 1/2
Texas Adios **
They Call Me Hallelujah *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Viva Django ***
W Django * 1/2



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Sonny on July 30, 2007, 11:37:35 PM
Matalo -- Very bizarre but intriguing Spaghetti.  It's very "psychedelic"  and relies more on visually interesting scenes than dialogue.  In fact, I'd say that the dialogue (and pretty much plot) of the film are next to non-existant.  All that this movie wants to do is take your eyes and ears on a trip unlike any you've seen in the Western genre, and it does it very well.  The music is excellent (would've thought to put psychedelic rock music in a western?  Obviously the same guys who made a psychedelic western...).  You also get your fair share of the expected spaghetti over-the-top idiosyncracies.  Imaginative and sadistic tortures.... weird weapons (who would've thought of a boomerang!?) and a whole lotta atmosphere.  The almost subliminal flashing of the red-tinged eye close-up was really cool at first in that scene, but eventually it just got a little annoying.  Highly recommended for style, but the complete absence of substance gives this a rating of...

***


I completely agree...  O0

I couldn't have described it better.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on August 01, 2007, 04:17:12 PM
2nd youngest. FragglePants is younger.
You actually made me look at the members list only to find out there was no fragglepants, you bastard.

You two still make me laugh. You could make a great pair of double-crossing friends in a new comedy SW. ;D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on August 01, 2007, 11:32:11 PM
You two still make me laugh. You could make a great pair of double-crossing friends in a new comedy SW. ;D

The Mildly Amusing Cyber-Adventures of Six-Gun Silenzio and Firecracker the Fool......



.....They Call Me Hallelujah.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2007, 11:41:24 PM
The Mildly Amusing Cyber-Adventures of Six-Gun Silenzio and Firecracker the Fool......



.....They Call Me Hallelujah.



It's a description and a review all at the same time.


In some countries our roles are reversed on the title. Mainly the smarter better countries.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on August 01, 2007, 11:44:10 PM

It's a description and a review all at the same time.


In some countries our roles are reversed on the title. Mainly the smarter better countries.


The infamous spanish title...

Firecracker Fantastico y Silenzio Estupido.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on August 02, 2007, 08:05:20 AM
 :D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on August 31, 2007, 06:04:37 PM
Have a Good Funeral, My Friend.... Sartana Will Pay

Great stuff.  So far this is the simplest and funnest Sartana I've seen yet.  Carmineo hasn't failed me yet if I want some great entertainment. 

More later....

I'm going to watch Light the Fuse tonight, but I give this

***1/2








This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
Have a Good Funeral, My Friend, Sartana Will Pay ***1/2
The Hellbenders ****
I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death ***
If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **
Matalo ***
The Mercenary ***1/2
My Name is Nobody ****
Navajo Joe ***1/2 or **** (haven't decided)
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata ***1/2
Sonny and Jed **
Stranger in Town ** 1/2
Texas Adios **
They Call Me Hallelujah *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Viva Django ***
W Django * 1/2




Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on August 31, 2007, 08:21:09 PM
Light The Fuse... Sartana is Coming

For real!  One of the top five best non-Leone's i've EVER SEEN.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 31, 2007, 09:12:26 PM
So, Firecracker finally sent you those movies?


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on August 31, 2007, 09:45:54 PM
Yes.  I am very happy.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 31, 2007, 09:52:44 PM
Yes. 

Finally.    ::)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on August 31, 2007, 10:16:26 PM
Light The Fuse... Sartana is Coming

For real!  One of the top five best non-Leone's i've EVER SEEN.


I fucking told you. It owns.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on August 31, 2007, 10:18:15 PM

I fucking told you. It owns.

Dude, every single scene was supreme pwnage!

There is not a SINGLE dull moment!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 31, 2007, 10:18:44 PM
I want to see Sartana.    :'(


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on August 31, 2007, 10:23:17 PM
Dude, every single scene was supreme pwnage!

There is not a SINGLE dull moment!


That's what I've been telling everybody. It's in deep competition with DEATH SENTENCE.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on August 31, 2007, 10:27:44 PM

That's what I've been telling everybody. It's in deep competition with DEATH SENTENCE.

I know!

But at the moment I give the edge to Death Sentence.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on September 22, 2007, 03:04:45 PM
I wanted to find my latest list, but it seems easier to remember all the films... let's hope it's all. I write it because I like observing how the collection slowly, but grows. ;D

Films with * I got from someone (the others I bought myself). I like keeping track of that as well.

Fistful of Dollars*
For A Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly*
Once Upon A Time In The West*
Duck, You Sucker*
The Specialist*
Django
My Name Is Nobody*
They Call Me Trinity

(Now I especially want The Great Silence and Ace High... don't know why the latter, maybe because I have a hope it might come after Trinity, they already published God Forgives... I Don't in that serie...)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: dave jenkins on September 22, 2007, 07:03:54 PM
No, you want Death Rides A Horse. It's Leone by other means.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on September 22, 2007, 07:23:03 PM
I'd give DRaH a ***1/2 out of ****.

But I thought Ace High was merely decent, i'd give it **1/2.




Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on September 22, 2007, 07:40:20 PM
I really liked Ace High. Fun SW and an awesome finale.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on September 23, 2007, 02:33:07 AM
No, you want Death Rides A Horse. It's Leone by other means.

You know, I want most of them, those I mentioned were just those I've been thinking about most recently.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 03, 2008, 11:40:46 AM
The Hills Run Red

Wow, it's been a long time since my last spag.  Unfortunately, this one wasn't a very good way to launch back into the genre.  Apart from the fantastic Morricone score, The movie is extremely mediocre.  Even though it's not nearly as bad as say, Django Kill, it's definitely not good.  What really brings it down is the acting.  The performances are poor all around aside from whoever played that guy Getz, I got a kick out of him, but he didn't get nearly enough screen time.  The direction wasn't exactly noteworthy, and even the music was brought down by a lame non-Morricone vocal theme they played a couple times.  I'm glad i just got this from netflix. :( 

**



But the next spag on my to-do list is BANDIDOS which will hopefully be better.







This is 'cause i want to keep track of my list.









Using Marco Leone's scale: **** = Must View *** = Recommended ** = Watch if bored and * = Avoid.


The ones that i own are in bold

10,000 Dollars Blood Money ***
Ace High ** 1/2
And God Said to Cain ***
Adios Sabata ***
Big Gundown ****
Bullet for The General ***
Blindman ***1/2
Cemetery Without Crosses ****
Compañeros ***1/2
Day of Anger ****
Death Rides a Horse ***1/2
Death Sentence ****
Django ****
Django, Kill... If You Live, Shoot! *
Django The Bastard ***
Duck, You Sucker! *****
Face to Face ****
Fistful of Dollars ***
For a Few Dollars More ****
Four of the Apocalypse *
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly *****
Grand Duel ***
Great Silence ****
Have a Good Funeral, My Friend, Sartana Will Pay ***1/2
The Hellbenders ****
The Hills Run Red **
I Am Sartana, Your Angel of Death ***
If You Meet Sartana, Pray For Your Death ***1/2
Keoma ***
Light the Fuse... Sartana is Coming! ****
Mannaja: A Man Called Blade ***
Massacre Time **1/2
Matalo ***
The Mercenary ***1/2
My Name is Nobody ****
Navajo Joe ***1/2 or **** (haven't decided)
Once Upon a Time in the West *****
Pistol for Ringo ****
Return of Sabata ** 1/2
Run Man Run ***
Sabata ***1/2
Sonny and Jed **
Stranger in Town ** 1/2
Texas Adios **
They Call Me Hallelujah *** 1/2
They Call Me Trinity ***   --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Trinity is Still My Name **  --  Only seen in Pan and Scan
Viva Django ***
W Django * 1/2



Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Firecracker on January 03, 2008, 12:30:06 PM
The Hills Run Red

Wow, it's been a long time since my last spag.  Unfortunately, this one wasn't a very good way to launch back into the genre.  Apart from the fantastic Morricone score, The movie is extremely mediocre.  Even though it's not nearly as bad as say, Django Kill, it's definitely not good.  What really brings it down is the acting.  The performances are poor all around aside from whoever played that guy Getz, I got a kick out of him, but he didn't get nearly enough screen time.  The direction wasn't exactly noteworthy, and even the music was brought down by a lame non-Morricone vocal theme they played a couple times.  I'm glad i just got this from netflix. :( 

**



I felt the same way the first time however a second viewing really helped this one out. Give it another try in a few months. Trust me. I'll bet money you'll raise your rating at least one star!


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on January 03, 2008, 12:46:53 PM
Update:

Films with * I got from someone (the others I bought myself). I like keeping track of that as well.

Fistful of Dollars*
For A Few Dollars More
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly*
Once Upon A Time In The West*
Duck, You Sucker*
The Specialist*
Django
My Name Is Nobody*
They Call Me Trinity
God Forgives... I Don't added today, I haven't seen it yet.

That makes it ten. Nice number. I'd like to bring it up to twelve, though, that's an even nicer number. ;)


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: Silenzio on January 04, 2008, 08:14:28 AM


I felt the same way the first time however a second viewing really helped this one out. Give it another try in a few months. Trust me. I'll bet money you'll raise your rating at least one star!


Alright.  In the meantime i need to give a second viewing to Keoma and Massacre Time.



That makes it ten. Nice number. I'd like to bring it up to twelve, though, that's an even nicer number. ;)


The more the merrier, that's what I say.


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: marmota-b on January 04, 2008, 10:17:06 AM
The more the merrier, that's what I say.

Sure. I only have to keep it on such number that I can fit into our small house. :D


Title: Re: List your SWs
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 04, 2008, 02:02:12 PM
The Hills Run Red

Wow, it's been a long time since my last spag.  Unfortunately, this one wasn't a very good way to launch back into the genre.  Apart from the fantastic Morricone score, The movie is extremely mediocre.  Even though it's not nearly as bad as say, Django Kill, it's definitely not good.  What really brings it down is the acting.  The performances are poor all around aside from whoever played that guy Getz, I got a kick out of him, but he didn't get nearly enough screen time.  The direction wasn't exactly noteworthy, and even the music was brought down by a lame non-Morricone vocal theme they played a couple times.  I'm glad i just got this from netflix. :( 



I agree completely.

Some of the worst acting ever in screen history can be seen here! Gotta love the Morricone score. The lyrical song is quite catchy while the main theme, which I'm sure has been used in a few commercials, is very memorable.