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Title: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Dust Devil on December 07, 2011, 03:28:01 PM

Wow, 96 years! You go boy! O0


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: cigar joe on December 07, 2011, 03:54:38 PM
Happy Birthday Eli  O0


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 07, 2011, 04:56:26 PM
 O0


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Groggy on December 07, 2011, 05:09:29 PM
Nice to have something to celebrate instead of mourn. O0


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Cusser on December 09, 2011, 06:53:24 AM
Happy Birthday Eli  O0

Now: dig !!!


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: emmo26 on December 08, 2013, 07:47:02 AM
98 yesterday - happy birthday


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Dust Devil on December 08, 2013, 09:36:24 AM
Outstanding! Happy b-day Eli! O0


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 08, 2013, 09:59:26 AM
Outstanding! Happy b-day Eli! O0

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Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Lil Brutto on December 08, 2013, 11:23:04 AM
Happy 98th bday, Eli Wallach.


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: dave jenkins on December 08, 2013, 12:38:48 PM
Just amazing. Keep going to 100 and beyond! O0


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Cusser on December 08, 2013, 03:19:19 PM
OK, he doesn't have to dig any more....


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: cigar joe on December 09, 2013, 03:27:46 AM
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Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 10, 2013, 12:35:10 AM
Aside from Eli Wallach, Claudia Cardinale, Clint Eastwood, and Terence Hill, does anyone know of any actors/actresses that appeared in a Leone Western and are still alive?


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: noodles_leone on December 10, 2013, 03:24:22 AM
I guess most of the kids are:

- the baby from FoD
- the one from the begining of GBU
- the young McBain
- the youngest son of Juan from DYS


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: emmo26 on December 10, 2013, 08:32:07 AM
Enzo Petito?


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Dust Devil on December 10, 2013, 09:18:41 AM
Aside from Eli Wallach, Claudia Cardinale, Clint Eastwood, and Terence Hill, does anyone know of any actors/actresses that appeared in a Leone Western and are still alive?

Marianne Koch, Gabriele Ferzetti, ...


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: noodles_leone on December 10, 2013, 09:49:14 AM
Enzo Petito?

His wikipedia french page asserts he was still alive in 2011 (100 years old!). The english, italian and french wikepedia pages don't mention any death date so he seems alive and well.


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Dust Devil on December 10, 2013, 12:06:33 PM
John Bartha also... However, it's questionable.


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 10, 2013, 04:07:13 PM
I guess most of the kids are:

- the baby from FoD
- the one from the begining of GBU
- the young McBain
- the youngest son of Juan from DYS

I assume that you're just assuming that  ;)


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: noodles_leone on December 10, 2013, 07:34:32 PM
I assume that you're just assuming that  ;)

I'm just "guessing" :) But I'd be willing to take bets.


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Leonardo on December 11, 2013, 05:22:56 AM
Enzo Petito?
Apparently he is still alive (as found on internet):
Happy 100th Birthday to Enzo Petito

Vincenzo Squatriti was born in Naples, Italy on February 19, 1911. He began his acting career in the theater with Eduardo De Filippo. Although never a major film actor he did appear in a number of small character roles in the 1960s as Enzo Petito. His most remembered role was as the gunshop owner in the “The Good, the Bad and the Ugly” (1966). Apparently Enzo moved to Spain and became a naturalized citizen of Spain. I can find no report of his death so today we celebrate Enzo Petito’s 100th birthday.  
Maria Monti (born 1935) and Rada Rassimov (born 1941) are also still alive


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 11, 2013, 05:39:26 AM
With lesser-known actors, I don't know if the fact that Wikipedia and/or IMDB lists a date of birth but no date of death necessarily means they are still alive. It's possible that since they really aren't well known, they could have died in obscurity  and therefore nobody knew/bothered to update their  Wikipedia/IMDB page with a date of death.


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 11, 2013, 05:44:21 AM
I guess most of the kids are:

- the young McBain
- the youngest son of Juan from DYS

what about the second-youngest son of Juan? or Patrick McBain? you assume their younger brothers must be alive but their older brothers must be dead?   :P


and btw, don't forget Francesca Leone!  :)


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: noodles_leone on December 11, 2013, 07:11:54 AM
what about the second-youngest son of Juan? or Patrick McBain? you assume their younger brothers must be alive but their older brothers must be dead?   :P


The fact that Enzo Petito (who was already quite old in GBU) is still alive shows that most guesses on the topic are really just guesses :)


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 11, 2013, 08:36:15 AM
The fact that Enzo Petito (who was already quite old in GBU) is still alive shows that most guesses on the topic are really just guesses :)

Do you really think that the day Enzo Petito dies (whether that is/was in the past or future), anyone is gonna know/care to update his wikipedia/imdb pages? You think anyone even knows who played the kids in Leone's Westerns, other than Francesca? My original question, about which actors in Leone Westerns are still alive, was about people we know by name.

So far, we have Eastwood, Wallach, Cardinale, Hill, Rassimov, Monti, Koch, Ferzetti

I guess the moral of the story is that if someone dies in a forest and no one's there to see him die, then he is not dead.... Eastwood's gonna die one day, Koch is gonna die one day, but Enzo Fucking Petito will live forever!


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: noodles_leone on December 11, 2013, 09:53:31 AM
Enzo is getting better and better, these days.

https://www.facebook.com/enzopetito85


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 11, 2013, 04:19:28 PM
Enzo is getting better and better, these days.

https://www.facebook.com/enzopetito85

 ;D


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 15, 2013, 03:07:02 AM
According to both IMDB http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0523597/?ref_=tt_cl_t9 and Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margarita_Lozano  Margarita Lozano, who played Consuelo Baxter in FOD, was born February 14, 1931 and is still alive.

lots of these actors/actresses we've mentioned were not major stars and, if they are alive and well, could probably be tracked down if someone who spoke their language or lived in their country were so inclined...

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btw, I was looking through some of these cast lists  on IMDB, and on the FAFDM page http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059578/?ref_=nv_sr_1 it describes Mara Krupp's role as "Mary - Hotel Manager's Beautiful Wife"  ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 23, 2013, 01:11:27 AM
it's worth revisiting this video (made around Eli's 95th birthday) every December 7th... and a few times in between  ;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJbXwhgtOw


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Groggy on January 06, 2014, 08:09:05 PM
Do we know if Vivienne Chandler from DYS is still alive? I remember one of our members had corresponded with her years ago.


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on January 06, 2014, 08:26:19 PM
Do we know if Vivienne Chandler from DYS is still alive? I remember one of our members had corresponded with her years ago.

She just died last June 6  :'(

Wikipedia calls her Vivienne Chandler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivienne_Chandler

IMDB calls her Vivienne Maya http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0151302/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm
 
Maybe it's a maiden name/married name thing. Seems she became a photographer, wikipedia says that as a photographer she used the names Holly Bush and Holly Bund


RIP Colleen


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on January 20, 2014, 07:13:49 PM
She just died last June 6  :'(

Wikipedia calls her Vivienne Chandler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivienne_Chandler

IMDB calls her Vivienne Maya http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0151302/?ref_=nmbio_bio_nm
 
Maybe it's a maiden name/married name thing. Seems she became a photographer, wikipedia says that as a photographer she used the names Holly Bush and Holly Bund


RIP Colleen

actually, it's kind of strange

IMDB has a separate page for Vivienne Chandler http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6010739/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

and Vivienne Maya http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0151302/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

There are separate filmographies on the two pages. E.g.  the Vivienne Maya filmography includes Victor Victoria, DYS, and The Draughtsman's Contract and others - and lists her birth as 1947 and her death as June 6, 2013.
The Vivienne Chandler filmography includes films like A Clockwork Orange, Night for Day, and The Video Guys, but makes no mention of a date of birth or death.

So, she must have used both names during her career.

If anyone can edit an IMDB page, it would probably be best clear up the confusion by merging them into a single page....


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 07, 2014, 06:27:00 PM
Today would have been Eli's 99th birthday  :)


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: Groggy on December 07, 2014, 08:55:08 PM
Gone but not forgotten.


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 07, 2014, 10:19:48 PM
I'll reiterate: any of you who haven't yet read Eli's autobiography, "The Good, the Bad, and Me: In My Anecdoatge," should do so ASAP. It is a really wonderful read. Great stuff!

btw, Eli was offered – and turned down – the role of Maggio in From Here to Eternity, the role that eventually, famously went to Frank Sinatra, won him an Academy Award, and kickstarted one of the most famous comebacks in showbiz history. I just remembered that now because A) TCM showed FHTH tonight, and I happen to be in middle of watching another movie with Sinatra now, Not as a Stranger.

I don't remember why Eli said he turned down the role. But I do remember that in general, Eli writes a lot about the tension between taking stage roles – which he preferred; an actor gets to really play a part straight, as opposed to a movie, which films out of sequence and with a bunch of takes and cuts – and taking movie roles, for which there is so much more money and fame. Indeed, so many legendary stage actors are forgotten, but movie stars are remembered and have their performances recorded so we can enjoy them again and again, whenever we want to.

I just finished reading Edward G. Robinson's autobiography, he also writes about how much he preferred stage acting – but in Robinson's case, once he started in the movies, he didn't return to the stage for 28 years (and even then, I think it was only because he was having a hard time finding work in the movies cuz he was blacklisted). In the case of Marlon Brando, I believe that once he started working in movies he never returned to the stage. Eli obviously did plenty of stage work throughout his career, but I'm sure glad, and we're all sure lucky, that he also chose to work in the movies. He made an unforgettable impression in every one of his performances.

It's great that he lived so long, and got the well-deserved Oscar for “a lifetime’s worth of indelible screen characters.”

 :)


Title: Re: Happy birthday Tuco!
Post by: bob the moo on January 01, 2015, 10:49:22 AM
IMDB has a separate page for Vivienne Chandler http://www.imdb.com/name/nm6010739/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
and Vivienne Maya http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0151302/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1

If anyone can edit an IMDB page, it would probably be best clear up the confusion by merging them into a single page....
Hi,
By coincidence I was trying to fix Vivienne's IMDb page - but you are incorrect to merge, these are two people for sure - the one listed at http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0151302/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0151302/) is the one you refer to. You will note that all her credits have been moved to this page, whereas before it was all mixed up.

If you are interested you can follow the history of changes on this thread (sort of): https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/vivienne-maya (https://getsatisfaction.com/imdb/topics/vivienne-maya) and you can also see the prove of the "other" Vivienne being clearly a different person.

The main question for me is why IMDb list her as Maya when everything she was in she used the name Chandler. I was planning to change that but didn't want to lose the Maya until I knew where it came from (that way it can be listed corrected in her bio etc).

Sorry for butting in....but I had seen this old thread and what I had been doing seemed to fit.

bob