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Films of Sergio Leone => Once Upon A Time In America => Topic started by: SimRob on July 02, 2012, 12:29:24 AM



Title: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: SimRob on July 02, 2012, 12:29:24 AM
I know there's already a thread on the new version of the film but since that already goes to 30 pages I thought it'd be useful to separate out some of the elements of it. So this is just for information about actual screenings of the new version. As far as I can tell there have been just three screenings of the film:
May 18 and 19 at the Cannes Film Festival
June 22 in Bologna (a public screening in the Piazza Maggiore. according to a posting on Facebook there were 7000 people there!)

It is to be shown at:
Locarno Film Festival in August 2012
France in September 2012

If anyone has any further info on screenings, or corrections to the above dates, please post! (which evidence to support)

Simon


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: titoli on October 17, 2012, 10:36:22 PM
The restored version will be distributed in 70 theatres all over Italy for 4 days starting tomorrow.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Groggy on October 18, 2012, 10:30:36 AM
The restored version will be distributed in 70 theatres all over Italy for 4 days starting tomorrow.

 :o


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: cigar joe on October 18, 2012, 02:31:43 PM
 O0


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: titoli on October 18, 2012, 03:36:10 PM
:o

The new official trailer:

http://www.primissima.it/film/trailer/trailer_ufficiale_di_c_era_una_volta_in_america/

(But why the face?)


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: cigar joe on October 18, 2012, 06:14:08 PM
cool


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: rexlic on October 19, 2012, 10:45:09 AM
I saw a trailer listed elsewhere on the board, on YouTube, that looked extremely sharp.  But has this trailer for the restored version, with Scorsese narration, been listed here?  If so, I apologize; if not, enjoy.

www.gucci.com/us/worldofgucci/articles/once-upon-a-time-in-america-gucci-restoration


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 20, 2012, 06:39:59 PM
In all this time I ain't heard nuthin about nuthin in America, whether theatrical screenings or dvd/BR release  :'(


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 21, 2012, 07:05:09 PM
OUATIA PLAYING AT FILM FORUM IN MANHATTAN NOVEMBER 23- NOVEMBER 29!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.filmforum.org/movies/more/sergio_leones_once_upon_a_time



But only a month till we'll be seeing this movie

YEEEEEEHHHAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH! (or since this is OUATIA, Leone's non-Western, maybe "Mazel Tov" is more appropriate?)

btw, the description says 229 minutes, but it also says Andrea Leone films and Conematagrapheque de Bologna (or however you spell it), so I am sure it's the new restored version

 if it plays, I'd prefer to see it on a real big screen (rather than on Film Forum's mini screen). But that's not terribly important either wat.

But wherever we see it We definitely have to take a Leone Board trip one of the screenings. maybe we can do another locations tour beforehand, leaving plenty of time to visit McSorley's?




Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on October 22, 2012, 03:20:31 AM
...btw, the description says 229 minutes, but it also says Andrea Leone films and Conematagrapheque de Bologna (or however you spell it), so I am sure it's the new restored version...

I hope for your sake it is the extended version but it sounds the same version as Rexlic saw at MoMA.


http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1302.msg160084#msg160084 (http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1302.msg160084#msg160084)


The movie at MoMA had a similar description:

Quote
Restored through funding by Gucci and The Film Foundation, and in partnership with Cineteca di Bologna at L’Immagine Ritrovata Laboratory, Andrea Leone Films, The Film Foundation, and Regency Enterprises. 229 min.

  


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 22, 2012, 04:02:26 AM
I hope for your sake it is the extended version but it sounds the same version as Rexlic saw at MoMA.


http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1302.msg160084#msg160084 (http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1302.msg160084#msg160084)


The movie at MoMA had a similar description:
 
  


but didn't rexlic say he saw it at MoMA 5 years ago? 5 years ago, there was no restored version.

if anyone saw the version that played at MoMA last week, that is probably the same version that will play at Film Forum next month, no?

If Film Forum is now showing a version that has credits of Andrea Leone films, Cinematagraphique Bologna, et al., that would seem to be the restored version, no?


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: rexlic on October 22, 2012, 05:50:56 AM
I think we're all being confused by other people's phrasing and definitions.

The film I saw at MOMA is the 229 minute version, same as on the two-disc special edition DVD.  And that's the version I saw at MOMA five years earlier, which is before I owned the DVD.  So the montage near the end--Noodles looks down at the gun Max has put on the table, and fades into scenes from their childhood--was new to me in 2007, but it was the only difference that I recall between that and the two tape VHS version.

Per the Scorsese trailer I put up a couple days ago, Marty emphasizes the "restored" quality of the film, while also talking about additional scenes.  There is a very beat-up print of the scene where young Deborah dances in the back room, and then an overlay of what the cleaned-up print looks like.  So a cleaned-up version of the 229 "European theatrical cut" is being called "restored," at the same time that a "restored" version extending the film with the additional footage which has circulated on the board is being prepared.  This is where the confusion, it seems to me, comes from, and it was either disingenuous or plain wrong of Scorsese to not clarify that.  Similarly, the MOMA print from two weeks ago, with its credits to those who helped "restore" the movie, punts on the issue, and neither DeNiro nor the other two speakers spoke of the extended version at all, not ackowledging its existence, and not conceding that what we were going to see was the unextended result.

I presume at some point the board will develop some nomenclature for the two versions, but I wonder which of the two will be considered the standard movie going forward?  When the film comes out on some future technology, will it be the best possible print of the 229 minute cut as the standard, or will the extra scenes permanently be considered the standard?  And, as someone else has posted, what of the implications from Scorsese's remark that we've gotten closer to what Leone wanted, suggesting that even more could possibly be added at a later date?


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on October 22, 2012, 05:58:08 AM
but didn't rexlic say he saw it at MoMA 5 years ago? 5 years ago, there was no restored version.  if anyone saw the version that played at MoMA last week, that is probably the same version that will play at Film Forum next month, no?   If Film Forum is now showing a version that has credits of Andrea Leone films, Cinematagraphique Bologna, et al., that would seem to be the restored version, no?

My reading of Rexlic's post was that he saw the recent screening at MoMA which was 229 minutes long and similar to the two-DVD set version.  In his opinion it didn't look much better than a version he saw 5 years ago.  Fairly dark at times.


It was the "European theatrical cut," or the film as it appeared on the two-DVD set.  DeNiro spoke briefly--of course--and did say that he worked a year on the picture, and that Sergio seemed to never want to stop making the movie, the implication being so great was his enthusiasm for it.  I will say this: I saw OUATIA at MOMA about five years ago, and this didn't seem to be in better shape than I remember that print being, although it's quite possible the quality of the DVD has obscured my sense of its quality on the big screen.  Maybe it was just the projector's illumination, but it seemed fairly dark at times.  MOMA's presentation of Scorsese's restoration of OUATITW a few years back was a noticeable upgrade over my previous theatre-going experiences of that film.  Almost forgot: Burt Young was in attendance, and stood up to good applause prior to DeNiro's appearance.


Regarding the additional scenes, I've only seen mention of a deal on the Italian rights so perhaps some further negotiations need to take place.



Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 22, 2012, 01:52:37 PM
why the fuck would they be showing all these screenings now of OUATIA, giving credits to Andrew Leone Films, Cinema di Bologna, et al, if it's the same version we've been able to see in America for the past 20 years?


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: dave jenkins on October 22, 2012, 02:08:11 PM
Just to fuck with you, Drink, why else?

It does say: "this is the fully-restored Leone-sanctioned version released in Europe. Approx. 229 minutes, with 20 minute intermission. DCP." Did Leone come back from the dead to sanction a cut never possible in his lifetime? And how is it possible to add 25 minutes and end up with a running time of 229? You're being had, dude.



Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 22, 2012, 03:04:32 PM
Just to fuck with you, Drink, why else?

It does say: "this is the fully-restored Leone-sanctioned version released in Europe. Approx. 229 minutes, with 20 minute intermission. DCP." Did Leone come back from the dead to sanction a cut never possible in his lifetime? And how is it possible to add 25 minutes and end up with a running time of 229? You're being had, dude.



well I figured exactly the same thing you figured with the MoMA showing: that some dipshit just copied the standard "229-minute running time" that is listed for the movie.

Anyway, maybe the answer is that Andrea Leone Films, the Film Foundation, Cinema di Bologna, et al. bought the rights to the movie. Even though they bought the rights because they wanted to do the restoration, the bottom line is that now they own the movie, period. So from now on, anytime the movie is screened in any version, it will always say "Presented by Andrea Leone Films, Film Foundation, Cinema di Bologna, et al." ?



Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 22, 2012, 03:21:02 PM
Okay, so I decided to just call Film Forum's box office (between 1-10 PM EST, a person will actually answer the phone, (212) 727-8112


the guy who answers says he is pretty sure that the version they will be showing will indeed be the version that premiered at Cannes, with the extra scenes restored. He is not certain about why the running time is listed as 229 minutes, but he says he is pretty sure that it's the Cannes version that will be showing.


He also suggested if we have any further questions, to email them to one of the following addresses:

info@filmforum.org

filmforum@filmforum.org


The screening is still a month away, but for now, I am pretty satisfied, the guy seemed to be sure of himself. I guess that as it gets closer to November 23, maybe we'll get more info.
As of now, there are no guests listed, and the guy I spoke too wasn't aware of any that will be there. But I am hoping that as it gets closer to the screening date, maybe they'll actually book a guest, and that's the showing I'd go to.
Scorsese? De Niro? I can dream. If De Niro came to MoMA, maybe he'd come to Film Forum.



btw, there is one thing I am still unclear about: did anyone here attend the screening at MoMA a week ago? If yes, what version did they show?


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: rexlic on October 22, 2012, 11:10:17 PM
btw, there is one thing I am still unclear about: did anyone here attend the screening at MoMA a week ago? If yes, what version did they show?


I went, and as I've posted elsewhere, it was the 229 minute "European theatrical cut," or what's on the DVD.  And my guess is that that is what's coming to FF.

I think the MOMA screening, as part of their annual film preservation series, and this FF engagement were booked with the intent of showing the extended version.  But with the reports of the technical issues stalling that, they've settled for the restored--but not restored AND extended--version.  The Melbourne festival in July cancelled screenings since the extended version wasn't ready yet.

I hope to be proven wrong.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 23, 2012, 12:31:20 AM

I went, and as I've posted elsewhere, it was the 229 minute "European theatrical cut," or what's on the DVD.  And my guess is that that is what's coming to FF.

I think the MOMA screening, as part of their annual film preservation series, and this FF engagement were booked with the intent of showing the extended version.  But with the reports of the technical issues stalling that, they've settled for the restored--but not restored AND extended--version.  The Melbourne festival in July cancelled screenings since the extended version wasn't ready yet.

I hope to be proven wrong.

yeah, that makes sense; release of the extended version was delayed cuz they needed to do more work on it, so you think the venues that booked showings just decided to show the regular 229-minute version in the time slots that they'd originally intended to show the new version? That's an interesting point, although if that's the case, that FF is just going to show the 229-minute version, then why are they waiting until Nov. 23 to show it, instead of just showing it now, as MoMA did?
 Maybe the extended version is supposed to be ready by that time?

I guess there's no use worrying about it yet; I'll just call FF in 3 weeks and see if they have any updates...


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on October 23, 2012, 02:19:43 AM
I think that L’Immagine Ritrovata Laboratory at Cineteca di Bologna restored the whole movie not just the additional unpublished scenes.

At MoMA they showed the restored version minus the additional scenes.  Possibly there are still copyright issues with these scenes.

Of course Warner Bros already has its own 229 minute version and from what I've seen and read the Cineteca di Bologna restored version may not be that much better than Warner Bros' own version.


 


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: rexlic on October 23, 2012, 04:24:35 AM
yeah, that makes sense; release of the extended version was delayed cuz they needed to do more work on it, so you think the venues that booked showings just decided to show the regular 229-minute version in the time slots that they'd originally intended to show the new version? That's an interesting point, although if that's the case, that FF is just going to show the 229-minute version, then why are they waiting until Nov. 23 to show it, instead of just showing it now, as MoMA did?
 Maybe the extended version is supposed to be ready by that time?

I guess there's no use worrying about it yet; I'll just call FF in 3 weeks and see if they have any updates...


MOMA's screening was set up in advance, being part of their now-concluded annual film preservation fest.  FF books their schedule well in advance; each calendar shows three months of repertory programming.  The current calendar goes from August 10-November 8; the upcoming one, with OUATIA, runs November 9 to February 7.  Who knows how far ahead it's booked?  If Melbourne cancelled in late July, maybe FF decided to go ahead anyway.

And maybe it will be the extended version.  Or maybe the "restored" 229 minute version is offered to meet contractual obligations, or maybe it means the extended version is a long way from being ready.  We'll see.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: dave jenkins on October 23, 2012, 06:24:17 AM

I think the MOMA screening, as part of their annual film preservation series, and this FF engagement were booked with the intent of showing the extended version.  But with the reports of the technical issues stalling that, they've settled for the restored--but not restored AND extended--version.  The Melbourne festival in July cancelled screenings since the extended version wasn't ready yet.
This sounds right to me. The DCP of the European Theatrical Cut would be worth viewing though, even at only 229.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on October 27, 2012, 09:18:08 AM
Umberto L. saw the new extended version at a theater in Italy about a week ago.  He found some of the new scenes a bit dark and seems unsure whether they improve or detract from the movie.  Some comments about "bright and intense colours, the usual deep contrast and a greater definition. Daylight scenes have never looked so beautiful and the camera movement got even more noticeable than in the past."

His score is as follows:

RESTORATION: 10/10

NEW SCENES:  8/10

http://mubi.com/topics/once-upon-a-time-in-america-2012-version-on-the-spur-of-the-moment-discussion-thread (http://mubi.com/topics/once-upon-a-time-in-america-2012-version-on-the-spur-of-the-moment-discussion-thread)

  


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on November 06, 2012, 02:23:33 AM
The screenings in Italy last month were very successful and more than 10,000 tickets were sold.  The Space Cinema circuit have announced further screenings for 8th to 11th November 2012.


http://tinyurl.com/bpaz634 (http://tinyurl.com/bpaz634)

  


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 06, 2012, 03:17:06 AM
The screenings in Italy last month were very successful and more than 10,000 tickets were sold.  The Space Cinema circuit have announced further screenings for 8th to 11th November 2012.


http://tinyurl.com/bpaz634 (http://tinyurl.com/bpaz634)

  

did those screenings include the new footage?


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on November 07, 2012, 01:47:05 AM
did those screenings include the new footage?

Yes of course a 259 minute version including about 26 minutes of additional scenes.

 


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 07, 2012, 02:06:45 AM
then I guess it's safe to assume that the upcoming screening at the Film Forum at the end of November will also have the new footage


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on November 07, 2012, 04:10:41 AM
 
then I guess it's safe to assume that the upcoming screening at the Film Forum at the end of November will also have the new footage

I hope for your sake it does but I'd be surprised.  In this case delays may not be a bad thing.  More time may allow the additional scenes to be enhanced further, the restoration of the 20 minutes or so of other additional scenes mentioned by Scorcese and some interesting bonus features.

Nominatrixx has uploaded all six blocks plus De Niro, Scorcese, Connelly, Taratino and Cool In Your Code clips:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Nominatrixx?feature=watch (http://www.youtube.com/user/Nominatrixx?feature=watch)

  
 


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 07, 2012, 05:34:08 AM

I hope for your sake it does but I'd be surprised.  In this case delays may not be a bad thing.  More time may allow the additional scenes to be enhanced further, the restoration of the 20 minutes or so of other additional scenes mentioned by Scorcese and some interesting bonus features.

Nominatrixx has uploaded all six blocks plus De Niro, Scorcese, Connelly, Taratino and Cool In Your Code clips:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Nominatrixx?feature=watch (http://www.youtube.com/user/Nominatrixx?feature=watch)


but if they are showing the additional footage at the Italian screenings then why would they not show it at the American screenings?
  
 


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on November 07, 2012, 09:42:59 AM
but if they are showing the additional footage at the Italian screenings then why would they not show it at the American screenings?

Just a guess but probably for the same reason that the new Blu-ray and DVDs are only being released in Italy at the present time.  The Leone family have only acquired the Italian rights.

 


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Groggy on November 07, 2012, 06:45:19 PM

I hope for your sake it does but I'd be surprised.  In this case delays may not be a bad thing.  More time may allow the additional scenes to be enhanced further, the restoration of the 20 minutes or so of other additional scenes mentioned by Scorcese and some interesting bonus features.

Nominatrixx has uploaded all six blocks plus De Niro, Scorcese, Connelly, Taratino and Cool In Your Code clips:

http://www.youtube.com/user/Nominatrixx?feature=watch (http://www.youtube.com/user/Nominatrixx?feature=watch)  

Really awesome. Thanks Chris! O0 O0 O0


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Leonardo on November 08, 2012, 05:12:51 AM
Really cool stuff, thanks Chris.
Don't know whether this has been posted already, if not, it's interesting and fun:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkuvaSS9Ono&list=UUGI_kLub3lfQAPLGHisH1Dw&index=5&feature=plcp


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 08, 2012, 06:22:41 AM
Just a guess but probably for the same reason that the new Blu-ray and DVDs are only being released in Italy at the present time.  The Leone family have only acquired the Italian rights.

 

that's what I was afraid of.

as soon as the restoration was announced, it said that the Leone family had acquired the Italian rights to the film, and I was unsure as to what implications that had for us in America.

But I have to (or want to?) believe that eventually, the extended version will be shown in America and released on dvd/br.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Novecento on November 08, 2012, 07:23:05 PM
that's what I was afraid of.

as soon as the restoration was announced, it said that the Leone family had acquired the Italian rights to the film, and I was unsure as to what implications that had for us in America.

But I have to (or want to?) believe that eventually, the extended version will be shown in America and released on dvd/br.

I'm just going to import it from amazon.it or IBS.it if it doesn't get a a wider release on BD.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: stanton on November 09, 2012, 02:16:42 AM
Don't worry it will be released on DVD/Blu worldwide. Only a question of time. The idea behind all these restorations of classics is to sell them on the home video market .


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on November 09, 2012, 03:21:32 AM
Logically it should only be a matter of time and should be fairly soon following the renewed interest in the movie.

There are however things in the movie's past which have not been entirely logical. The movie wasn't released on DVD until 2003 and whilst Leone's family found the additional scenes in the early 90s, they had to struggle for 20 years to acquire the rights.

Screenings in theaters in France were planned but these have been cancelled and, outside Italy, screenings have only taken place at film festivals and special events such as Cannes, La Lumiere Festival in Lyon and the Locarno Film Festival in Switzerland.

 


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 22, 2012, 09:24:37 PM
I will definitely attend one of the upcoming screenings at the Film Forum http://filmforum.com/movies/more/sergio_leones_once_upon_a_time  (although i will first try to call to make sure they are showing the new footage).


I would like to go to one of the 7 PM showings between Monday-Thursday, I think cigar joe will be coming too; if anyone else is interested in joining, please reply here.



Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: cigar joe on November 23, 2012, 04:25:06 AM
I will definitely attend one of the upcoming screenings at the Film Forum http://filmforum.com/movies/more/sergio_leones_once_upon_a_time  (although i will first try to call to make sure they are showing the new footage).


I would like to go to one of the 7 PM showings between Monday-Thursday, I think cigar joe will be coming too; if anyone else is interested in joining, please reply here.


if its new footage I'd be tempted but my work schedule is in flux at the moment


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 23, 2012, 10:53:33 AM
if its new footage I'd be tempted but my work schedule is in flux at the moment

I am trying to call the Film Forum staff now.

I guess they will be able to give me  a proper answer after a day or two


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: dave jenkins on November 23, 2012, 01:30:07 PM
What part of 229 minutes do you not understand?


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Groggy on November 23, 2012, 04:46:27 PM
He must be having trouble with his adding :D


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Cusser on November 23, 2012, 10:46:21 PM
It's all right, now.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Cusser on November 23, 2012, 10:47:43 PM
I'm not holdin' my breath about this playing in Arizona....


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: rexlic on November 24, 2012, 07:13:13 AM
A piece in Time Out New York this week:

At last spring’s Cannes, an even longer, 256-minute version debuted, adding a lengthy death scene from Antony and Cleopatra that Leone had chosen to cut. (Frayling’s verdict: “I adore Elizabeth McGovern, but she was not a Shakespearean actress.”) Warner Bros. has since taken this extra-extended cut out of circulation for unspecified legal reasons...

European theatrical version it is, then.


www.timeout.com/newyork/film/once-upon-a-time-in-america-restored?cmpid=TONY+Dly+112412


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 24, 2012, 04:07:57 PM
in that case I won't be there.

This article makes it seem as if the only scene added at Cannes was the Antony & Cleopatra scene; in fact, that scene is only like 2 or 3 minutes out of 20


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: chris on November 25, 2012, 03:04:29 AM
A piece in Time Out New York this week:

http://www.timeout.com/newyork/film/once-upon-a-time-in-america-restored?cmpid=TONY+Dly+112412 (http://www.timeout.com/newyork/film/once-upon-a-time-in-america-restored?cmpid=TONY+Dly+112412)

Thanks for the link rexlic. I'm not sure that Warner Bros are the sole copyright holders but it confirms what several have suggested:

"...Warner Bros. has since taken this extra-extended cut out of circulation for unspecified legal reasons..."

There are mixed reports on whether the 229 min newly restored version is better than the Warner Bros. version and we should find out a lot more next month.

 


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 29, 2012, 01:59:30 PM
I'll be at Film Forum at 7 PM tonite for the final showing. I know they're not showing the new footage, but hey, anytime I get a chance to see a Leone movie on the medium screen, I'll take it  O0


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Cusser on November 29, 2012, 09:02:19 PM
I'll be at Film Forum at 7 PM tonite for the final showing. I know they're not showing the new footage, but hey, anytime I get a chance to see a Leone movie on the medium screen, I'll take it  O0

That's a great idea.  Out here in Arizona such chances are very rare.  Mrs. Cusser and I saw GBU as part of the 90th Anniversary of United Artists tour, first time it had shown on big screen in Phoenix area in 29 years.  We saw Once/West and Once/America in 1985/1986, at a center for the arts film festival.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 30, 2012, 12:06:14 AM
got back from Film Forum a little while ago.

This was the final of 14 showings of OUATIA (twice a day for the past week), and I was very pleased to see the theater virtually sold out! Other than a few scattered single seats here and there, the place was jammed. There were well over 100 people in attendance on this Thursday evening. (I used to run a student group at law school that was a Chapter of a large national organization, and I was required to report the number of attendees at each event to the national organization; ever since, I find myself instinctively counting the crowd whenever I am at an event  ;)) I asked one of Film Forum's employees, just to get an idea of what attendance has been like: he said that while tonight's crowd may be somewhat bigger since it's the last showing, they have had very large crowds throughout the week for OUATIA, and he said that it's possible that they may have sold out one or two of the screenings. I was very happy to see that there is such enthusiasm for Leone movies
The crowd was  a mix of older and middle-aged people, and younger people that basically all look like stereotypical Village people. I'm not sure if that's because only artsy-types are nerdy enough to attend screenings of classic movies, or if it's just because the Film Forum is located in the Village, but I've been to three Film Forum showings now (GBU, OUATIA, and Vertigo), and in all instances -- just about everyone under 35 was an "artist."


The crowd was into it, laughed at all the appropriate (or more accurately, the "inappropriate" moments), at all the crudeness (including virtually every scene involving Peggy!) Sometimes, you can see a movie 50 or 100 times alone on dvd at home, but only fully appreciate all it's hilarious and crude moments when you are watching it in a theater with everyone laughs at these moments that previously you never thought much about.

 You know the one dude in every theater who laughs REALLY loud and long at everything as if he is watching alone, completely oblivious to the fact that there are other people there who hear him? Cackling over a line long after everyone else has quieted down, muttering random "OMG's" etc. Well that guy was sitting just a couple of seats away from me -- only his wife was between us -- some big ugly fat snorting bastard with a pretty wife. It was mostly hilarious, actually.

I was waiting to see what would happen during the rape scene -- it was deadly silent (there's no music over that scene, of course) -- well, there was not a single audible reaction, (other than an audible "OMG" from the fat bastard).


Alright, I think that's enough of that shit for now  ;)


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: dave jenkins on November 30, 2012, 09:25:34 AM

 You know the one dude in every theater who laughs REALLY loud and long at everything as if he is watching alone, completely oblivious to the fact that there are other people there who hear him?
Yeah, that guy's a real ass. But the dude that really chafes my nuts is the ADD guy who is jumping up every 5 minutes to go buy popcorn. Was that jerk there?

How does the DCP compare to the blu-ray? Blu-ray is, I believe, sub-2K, so whether what you saw was 2K or 4K, you should have seen an image with greater color density. Anything to report?


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 30, 2012, 11:15:23 AM
Yeah, that guy's a real ass. But the dude that really chafes my nuts is the ADD guy who is jumping up every 5 minutes to go buy popcorn. Was that jerk there?

How does the DCP compare to the blu-ray? Blu-ray is, I believe, sub-2K, so whether what you saw was 2K or 4K, you should have seen an image with greater color density. Anything to report?

Well if the guy going to get popcorn is sitting at the end and doesn't walk past you, why should that bother you?


The image definitely did not look any better than the blu ray.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: noodles_leone on November 30, 2012, 01:54:46 PM
1920 and 2K (2000) isn't far enough for human eye to notice if you ask me.


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Groggy on December 04, 2012, 09:16:53 AM
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The crowd was into it, laughed at all the appropriate (or more accurately, the "inappropriate" moments), at all the crudeness (including virtually every scene involving Peggy!) Sometimes, you can see a movie 50 or 100 times alone on dvd at home, but only fully appreciate all it's hilarious and crude moments when you are watching it in a theater with everyone laughs at these moments that previously you never thought much about.

I noticed that at Lawrence too.

Anyway, thanks for the report Drink. Glad to hear that Leone interest remains alive and well, at least in NYC. Too bad about the fatass, but then jerks are an essential part of the moviegoing experience. :D


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 04, 2012, 09:24:43 AM
Too bad about the fatass, but then jerks are an essential part of the moviegoing experience. :D

haha don't be sorry, it was funny! and I kept wondering how he landed himself that babe. I mean, his wife was a BABE. She must have been a very good cook and fattened up the bastard. I felt bad for her; she's kept herself well and now she's getting nothing. Just some really loud snoring, I bet.


Which reminds me, when I was at Lincoln, some old lady fell asleep and started snoring. She was too far away from me to shake her, so I just started throwing popcorn at her face, one piece at a time; she stirred on the third piece, and woke up on the 4th. The theater was full of old people -- some community theater on the Upper Est Side -- and they were all laughing and giving me the thumbs up   >:D


Title: Re: Screenings of the new extended version
Post by: Groggy on December 04, 2012, 09:51:05 AM
I'll have to try that popcorn trick sometime. It seems like every historical movie I attend comes with a commentary from some middle-aged loud mouth. For commentary read
"explaining what is right there onscreen loud enough for everyone to hear."