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Title: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: titoli on September 12, 2012, 04:19:50 PM
When I first saw it in the late '70's I think, as I have already written, it was cut a good 30 minutes or even more. The 150' edition gives us a movie which is perfect until Ventura's arrest, but then the plot is rather contrived, not to say stupid. I would like to remember what was cut in the italian release. 8\10
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: noodles_leone on September 17, 2012, 02:53:17 PM
Alain Corneau remade it in 2007, if you are interested.
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: titoli on September 17, 2012, 03:57:14 PM
Alain Corneau remade it in 2007, if you are interested.
Thanx for the info, but do you think is worth watching?
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: dave jenkins on September 18, 2012, 04:57:00 AM
When I first saw it in the late '70's I think, as I have already written, it was cut a good 30 minutes or even more. The 150' edition gives us a movie which is perfect until Ventura's arrest, but then the plot is rather contrived, not to say stupid. I would like to remember what was cut in the italian release. 8\10
The current R1 DVD release (via Criterion) lists a running time of 144.
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: titoli on September 18, 2012, 08:02:34 AM
The current R1 DVD release (via Criterion) lists a running time of 144.
You mean the transfer?
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: noodles_leone on September 18, 2012, 09:53:54 AM
Thanx for the info, but do you think is worth watching?

Telling the truth, no I don't think so. I only saw the trailers, it looks very videoish, with bad acting. Moreover, Corneau died shortly after this one (he just got the time to shoot another one), I suspect he was already quite tired.
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: dave jenkins on September 18, 2012, 10:33:19 AM
You mean the transfer?
I mean the current R1 DVD (via Criterion) lists a running time of 144.
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: dave jenkins on September 18, 2012, 10:41:43 AM
Telling the truth, no I don't think so. I only saw the trailers, it looks very videoish, with bad acting. Moreover, Corneau died shortly after this one (he just got the time to shoot another one), I suspect he was already quite tired.
I haven't seen the remake and it may in fact be bad. But if so, not for the reason you suggest, I don't think. His final film, Love Crime, is quite good.
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: titoli on September 18, 2012, 03:25:16 PM
I mean the current R1 DVD (via Criterion) lists a running time of 144.
That means that before the transfer from film to video the running time was 150', as listed at IMDB.
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on March 04, 2018, 12:05:19 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/dramatic-video-shows-suspects-arrested-alleged-plot-rob-074503264--abc-news-topstories.html
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: dave jenkins on March 06, 2018, 11:54:21 AM
https://www.yahoo.com/gma/dramatic-video-shows-suspects-arrested-alleged-plot-rob-074503264--abc-news-topstories.html
Why isn't this posted in the Criss Cross thread?
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: cigar joe on March 06, 2018, 03:38:02 PM
Why isn't this posted in the Criss Cross thread?

it should be also, no?
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: moorman on September 13, 2018, 06:09:27 PM
This is just another PERFECT film from Jean Pierre Melville.  Gustave "Gu" Minda ( Lino Ventura) escapes from prison with two others. He is highly respected in the criminal world for both his ability and loyalty.  He heads to Paris to visit his sister Manouche ( Christine Fabrega) who herself grew up as a criminal with Gu.  The plan is to for her to use her connections to get Gu out of Paris.  Gu needs money before he leaves and is tipped off about a big heist by a old friend named Orloff ( Pierre Zimmer).  From there the plot takes amazing twists and turns until the dramatic final scenes.

There is not a dull moment anywhere in this fantastic film.  The great cinematography was done by Marcel Combes.  The equally great musical score is by Bernard Gerard.  The direction by Jean Pierre Melville as he always does is just perfect.  I can't say enough about how great this director is. Just fantastic!  You already know... 10 out of 10...



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Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on September 13, 2018, 11:51:57 PM
This is just another PERFECT film from Jean Pierre Melville.  Gustave "Gu" Minda ( Lino Ventura) escapes from prison with two others. He is highly respected in the criminal world for both his ability and loyalty.  He heads to Paris to visit his sister Manouche ( Christine Fabrega) who herself grew up as a criminal with Gu.  The plan is to for her to use her connections to get Gu out of Paris.  Gu needs money before he leaves and is tipped off about a big heist by a old friend named Orloff ( Pierre Zimmer).  From there the plot takes amazing twists and turns until the dramatic final scenes.

There is not a dull moment anywhere in this fantastic film.  The great cinematography was done by Marcel Combes.  The equally great musical score is by Bernard Gerard.  The direction by Jean Pierre Melville as he always does is just perfect.  I can't say enough about how great this director is. Just fantastic!  You already know... 10 out of 10...



(http://i66.tinypic.com/2qiqxy9.jpg)



(http://i64.tinypic.com/6z0i7k.jpg)

yes, a terrific film.

Watch also "Classe Tous Risques" (1960) - it's not Melville, but it stars Lino Ventura and the story was written by the same author as "Le deuxième souffle." It's a really good movie.
Title: Re: Le deuxième souffle (1966)
Post by: moorman on September 14, 2018, 02:40:55 AM
yes, a terrific film.

Watch also "Classe Tous Risques" (1960) - it's not Melville, but it stars Lino Ventura and the story was written by the same author as "Le deuxième souffle." It's a really good movie.
  I have that film on my to do list.  Now that you have told me that Lino Ventura is in it and the script is by the same author as  Le deuxime Souffle, I'm gonna get to it sooner than later.  Thanks for the recommendation... :)