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Title: Scarface (1932)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 22, 2012, 07:18:38 PM

Scarface (1932) 5/10

   Paul Muni    ...   Tony
    Ann Dvorak    ...   Cesca
    Karen Morley    ...   Poppy
    Osgood Perkins    ...   Lovo
    C. Henry Gordon    ...   Guarino
    George Raft    ...   Rinaldo
    Vince Barnett    ...   Angelo
    Boris Karloff    ...   Gaffney
    Purnell Pratt    ...   Publisher
    Tully Marshall    ...   Managing Editor
    Inez Palange    ...   Tony's Mother
    Edwin Maxwell    ...   Detective Chief

This movie features a really good and funny performance by Paul Muni. Otherwise, it's a shitty movie
Title: Re: Scarface (1932)
Post by: cigar joe on October 22, 2012, 07:55:25 PM
Preferred far more than the remake; Hawks, Hecht, and Muni are first-rate here 10/10
IMDb 22 January 2005 | by MisterWhiplash (United States) – See all my reviews
In an attempt to try and snap some sense into the public and the government about the crime wave (mostly in due to Al Capone, who was a major inspiration for Tony Camonte), Howard Hughes and Howard Hawks brought to the screen one of the landmark early gangster pictures. It's a film that does take its subject seriously (while on one hand one argues that the film is an indictment of crime and peoples responses, one could also argue that it's a subtle indictment of the prohibition), however it's also an exciting, and sometimes wickedly funny, take on a genre that would flourish in the thirties and forties. What comes most surprising (and I mean that as a big compliment) is how it hasn't lost much of its vitality in seventy years. The implied violence in the film is, in fact, shocking in places, and while it lacks the blood content and major shocks of the De Palma remake, it doesn't compromise to showing the (slightly Hollywood-ized) truth of the matter- crime doesn't pay, but sometimes it's all people know.

Tony Camonte is played by Paul Muni, in a performance that wonderfully ranges from angry to sarcastic, funny to romantic, and just down-right crazy; it's no wonder that Pacino was inspired by his performance to take on Tony Montana in the remake (though one could argue that Muni's bravura presence and delivery in this film out-ranks Pacino's in the later). He is surrounded by supporting players that also give very good work as well, with the story being told in various threads that work perfectly. There's one semi-comic story around one of Camonte's assistants who is rather illiterate and slow (though it's also a subtle commentary on the lack of prospects for immigrants at the time). Another (which was given much prominence in the remake) involves the power-struggle between Tony and his younger sister. And then there's the good-old mixture of solid, fascinating bits with the cops and other criminals, not to mention a boss that has to control Tony's manic ideals of taking over the city (and, perhaps, the world).

I once heard Quentin Tarantino in an interview say that Howard Hawks is the 'single greatest storyteller in the history of cinema'. Although that could be a heavily debatable statement, with this film Hawks proves that he definitely can do so very well, and of the few I've seen of his so far, this is my favorite. On the technical side of things, some of the technique is very straight-forward, but then there is also proof that Hawks was a step-ahead of the crowd that would bloom out in the film-noir period a decade later. Shadows used with a fine flair; great over-head and dead-on shots of cars riding and shooting; a couple of really keen close-ups. Add to that a script from Hecht that doesn't go too deep into character for too long, and you got your basic powerhouse gangster picture. And, believe me, it's a must-see if you're into the genre, or if you'd like to have a comparison test with the highly revered remake.
Title: Re: Scarface (1932)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on October 22, 2012, 08:22:55 PM
The dvd features an introduction by Robert Osborne, in which he called Scarface "the granddaddy of all gangster films." I sure as hell do not agree with that; for me, that distinction goes to The Public Enemy

I don't know if anyone tracks this, but I'd bet that  this movie may have more gunshots than any other non-war movie ever made, especially if you do a gunshots-per-minute count, since the movie is only 93 minutes long. There's shootout after shootout after shootout, mostly with Tommy guns.

with all the idiots with blogs today who have way too much time on their hands, maybe one of 'em can start counting  ;)

even though I think it's a dumb movie, I sort of had fun watching this since Muni is in almost every scene, and he is fun to watch, he delivers a hilarious performance

But IMO this movie is nowhere near the level of The Public Enemy, The Roaring Twenties, Angels With Dirty Faces,, Dead End, or White Heat
Title: Re: Scarface (1932)
Post by: Groggy on October 23, 2012, 03:37:18 AM
Saw it years ago, don't really remember it. The De Palma flick is fun for what it is.
Title: Re: Scarface (1932)
Post by: moorman on October 25, 2018, 05:00:45 PM
Which one is it.  The reviews here are to both extremes.  Is it good or bad? lol
Title: Re: Scarface (1932)
Post by: cigar joe on October 25, 2018, 06:57:48 PM
Which one is it.  The reviews here are to both extremes.  Is it good or bad? lol

About a 6-7/10 its from 1932 and looks it. It's more important for what it is as a Gangster Flick