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Title: Murder, My Sweet (1944)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 16, 2013, 06:59:44 PM

Murder, My Sweet (1944)

plot synopsis and cast, courtesy of imdb

After being hired to find an ex-con's former girlfriend, Philip Marlowe is drawn into a deeply complex web of mystery and deceit.

Dick Powell    ...    Philip Marlowe
Claire Trevor    ...    Mrs.Helen Grayle aka Velma Valento
Anne Shirley    ...    Ann Grayle
Otto Kruger    ...    Jules Amthor
Mike Mazurki    ...    Moose Malloy
Miles Mander    ...    Mr. Grayle
Douglas Walton    ...    Lindsay Marriott
Donald Douglas    ...    Police Lieutenant Randall (as Don Douglas)
Ralf Harolde    ...    Dr. Sonderborg
Esther Howard    ...    Jessie Florian

There are three previous posts on this movie from the Film Noir Discussion thread


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much of the discussion in those three posts is comparing this movie to the re-make Farewell, My Lovely (1975); the three posts have been copied over in full in the Farewell, My Lovely thread
In that thread, you can also find screencaps for Murder, My Sweet
Title: Re: Murder, My Sweet (1944)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on August 24, 2014, 06:54:34 AM
just watched the DVD of Murder, My Sweet for the second time: I give it a 7.5/10

I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as I think i did last time, probably because I just watched Farewell, My Lovely. FML is clearly my favorite of the two; I thought the color was nice (even though it's a noir movie), bringing out the color of the seedy of side of private-detective work; the production design on FML was amazing, that feels muc more real and less on studio sets - even the indoor sets do feel real (if those were also on soundstages as opposed to real indoor homes/hotels, then that's an even bigger credit to the production design). (Maybe MMS never felt a need to emphasize the 1940's cuz they were IN the 1940's  ;) )

Dick Powell is a good noir guy but he is no Robert Mitchum, who may THE noir guy

a major difference was adding in the Ann Shirley character in MMS - IMO it added nothing to the movie

Mr. Grayle was also a needless character (in FML, Judge Grayle is, though a powerful character, a minor character in the movie and rarely appears; but in MMS, MR. Grayle has a few scenes where he goes on and on)

of course, in 1975, there was no production code: there were lots more killing, you could see the blood, you could see the nudity, hear the profanity -- Amthor was a madame running a brothel in FML; in MMS, he was a quack shrink, practicing without a license.

Moose in MMS, played by Mike Mazurki, has normal reactions here. Doesn't growl every word he says as O'Halloran does in FML.  But O'Halloran comes across as legitimately stupid. not sure if Mazurki is believable as really being stupid, or if you can tell he is acting stupid. Again, I watched Mzurki's movie immediately after O'Halloran's, so I am comparing everything .....

And again, I must emphasize: Dick Powell was very fine noir man. But few, if any, could go up against Robert Mitchum in a noir battle and win.

I have to give a 7.5/10 to MMS and an 8, maybe an 8.5/10, to FML