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Title: OUATIA and the Oscars
Post by: drinkanddestroy on March 12, 2013, 01:50:51 AM
So it's well-known how the OUATIA release was so messy with the studio fucking up the release, that they forgot to enter Ennio Morricone into Oscar contention for the best score.

Can we assume the same is true for all the other Oscar categories? IMO, OUATIA deserved an Oscar (at the very least) for Best Production Design and Best Makeup; that movie has the greatest production design ever, (along with FAFDM, which has the greatest for a Western), and the makeup job aging all those characters 35 years is simply incredible.

And how about Best Picture? of course the American release was butchered, but the 229-minute version was shown at Cannes and released theatrically in Europe with such acclaim, couldn't that version have theoretically been entered into Best Picture contention (and/or Best Foreign Picture?)


Title: Re: OUATIA and the Oscars
Post by: stanton on March 12, 2013, 03:32:14 AM
The production design for FaFDM never made a great impression on me.

All the later Leone westerns (including Nobody), some Corbucci SWs and dozens of US westerns look much better.

The only thing OuTA has in common wth a typical Oscar winner is the extravagant runtime.


Title: Re: OUATIA and the Oscars
Post by: Senza on March 12, 2013, 03:58:54 AM
I've never really cared for the Oscars [primarily because I don't agree with their decisions 99% of the time], for me, if a movie is entertaining and manages to keep me entertained throughout its entire running time, and made me come out of the theatre discussing and asking interesting questions, and wanting to watch it again, then it has done its job. OUATIA managed to do just that.


Title: Re: OUATIA and the Oscars
Post by: Senza on March 12, 2013, 04:02:49 AM
But I will say it pisses me off how some movies can get away with a 3 + hour runtime during their release, whilst some like OUATIA get butchered to shit.


Title: Re: OUATIA and the Oscars
Post by: Groggy on March 12, 2013, 04:39:28 AM
The only thing OuTA has in common wth a typical Oscar winner is the extravagant runtime.

The Last Emperor won Best Picture three years afterwards. No reason another long, sprawling Italian epic should be exempt.


Title: Re: OUATIA and the Oscars
Post by: stanton on March 12, 2013, 07:13:17 AM
But The Last Emperor is a typical mainstream look at history. Far away from earlier Bertolucci films.
A typical Osacr movie imo.

If I check the best picture Oscars for this century, the only surprise is No County for Old Men. The only one which is different, the only one which is great imo. Far superior to the others.
(But I haven't seen The Artist (also a surprise for me) and 2 or 3 others)


Title: Re: OUATIA and the Oscars
Post by: Senza on March 12, 2013, 07:38:01 AM
I think if Leone made Leningrad, then he probably would've been recognised by now and got a nomination, or even won.