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Title: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 06, 2013, 08:17:25 PM
69th anniversary of D-Day.

God bless those who fought for our freedom
Title: Re: 69th Anniversary of D-Day
Post by: Cusser on June 08, 2013, 12:07:50 PM
Yep, I thought about that on the 6th.  I oftentimes wish I had been born 30 years earlier, so I could've participated; I feel I missed out on something truly important.  I would've liked to be one of Aldo's "basterds" in Inglorious Basterds.

My dad was in the Army Air Corp during WW2, never said anything about what he did, but there were hints he was involved in the meterology division, with the Normandy invasion.  Only after he died did we find out that he had been a sergeant.  So if he did anything real important, he kept that to himself.  He did not keep any uniforms or Air Corp stuff.
Title: Re: 69th Anniversary of D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 09, 2013, 03:58:46 AM
Yep, I thought about that on the 6th.  I oftentimes wish I had been born 30 years earlier, so I could've participated; I feel I missed out on something truly important.  I would've liked to be one of Aldo's "basterds" in Inglorious Basterds.

My dad was in the Army Air Corp during WW2, never said anything about what he did, but there were hints he was involved in the meterology division, with the Normandy invasion.  Only after he died did we find out that he had been a sergeant.  So if he did anything real important, he kept that to himself.  He did not keep any uniforms or Air Corp stuff.

Careful what you wish for; it may all sound glamorous now, but those boys faced hell when they hit those beaches. I read a book by a former Lt. in WWII, he said that in addition to their other basic weapons and supplies, each soldier was given in his backpack an extra change of underwear -- because the sheer terror of battle can cause a person to lose complete control of his functions and crap his pants. Nobody who actually fought will tell you there was anything glamorous about it. (Especially like the shit in Inglorious Basterds. I never watched that movie cuz from what I've heard it's basically a comedy about Nazis and I don't find that shit funny, I don't think there is anything funny about Nazis; ask someone who suffered from the Nazis is see if they think there's anything comedic about it. To Quentin Tarantino, everything is funny whether Nazis or slavery. Fuck him).

There's no doubt that those who did fight for freedom in WWII were a special group of people and have a great merit, but just be thankful we have our freedom today, and appreciative that we do not have to go through what they did  ;)

(This Lt. whose book I read, I believe he participated in the invasion of Normandy though I don't remember if he was from the first wave to hit the beaches; but he was definitely involved in some major fighting. He was in the Signal Corps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_Corps_%28United_States_Army%29
 If you saw Patton, remember the sequence where Gen. Patton marched his soldiers for days and asked the priest for a prayer to clear the weather so they could free a bunch of soldiers who were besieged in the snow in Bastogne -- well this Lt. was one of those besieged in Bastogne http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Bastogne ).


Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 06, 2014, 12:20:17 AM
70th anniversary of D-Day today.
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: dave jenkins on June 06, 2014, 04:25:37 AM
Yes it is.
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 06, 2016, 12:59:07 PM
Today is the 72nd anniversary of D-Day


http://www.cbsnews.com/news/wwii-d-day-invasion-normandy-remembered-72-years-later/
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: noodles_leone on June 07, 2016, 09:40:28 AM
Yes it is.

What happened last year?
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 06, 2017, 11:26:37 AM
73
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: dave jenkins on June 06, 2017, 01:47:43 PM
Glad you remembered. I was the only one at work who brought it up. Even the history guy forgot about it. I wish there was a good movie to watch on the subject but I don't like any of the ones I know . . .
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 06, 2017, 03:45:12 PM
Glad you remembered. I was the only one at work who brought it up. Even the history guy forgot about it. I wish there was a good movie to watch on the subject but I don't like any of the ones I know . . .

Saving Private Ryan - whether or not you like the plot - has great D-Day footage.

Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: dave jenkins on June 07, 2017, 06:08:17 AM
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a movie about D-Day.
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 07, 2017, 10:00:11 AM
I've never seen THE LONGEST DAY. Have you?
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: dave jenkins on June 07, 2017, 11:25:01 AM
Of course. It has a few good sequences, but mostly it stinks.
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: noodles_leone on June 07, 2017, 02:43:27 PM
Of course. It has a few good sequences, but mostly it stinks.

It's a boring movie. But the huge cast makes it a nice watch every 5 years or so. Mostly around christmas.
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: stanton on June 08, 2017, 01:35:57 AM
A boring movie is a nice watch?

Films like The Longest Day or A Bridge too Far are not that bad, they suffer from elephantism and the wish to please everyone. And from too many simple humour and simplified characters. Oh what a Lovely War would have been too often a fitting title for both.
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: noodles_leone on June 08, 2017, 02:46:48 AM
A boring movie is a nice watch...
... every 5 years or so around Christmas. Yep. That's what I said.
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 06, 2018, 10:03:12 AM
74th anniversary today

https://apnews.com/ffd4c36bd8544dde913cf7237416a736/Veterans,-families-mark-74-years-since-Allied-D-Day-landings

http://citizensvoice.com/news/some-things-you-will-never-forget-veteran-recalls-d-day-1.2346168

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2018/jun/06/paul-turner-on-your-calendar-or-not-d-day-worth-re/

https://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2018/06/sons_salute_their_fathers_role.html

https://foto.gettyimages.com/archive/historic/rare-color-photos-of-d-day/?utm_campaign=gi-home&utm_medium=web&utm_source=hero3
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 06, 2019, 06:09:56 AM
Today is the 75th anniversary. Being a nice “even” number, this year’s memorial is far bigger than usual.

RE: THE LONGEST DAY, I have a friend who is a war buff (really a buff in all things history), he is particularly obsessed with D-Day, he told me that as a youngster he saw TLD around 30 times!

 I saw it not long ago for the first time. It tries to cover a little bit of everything. So you never really get to follow one group for too long. It’s like if 10 different documentaries were made about 10 different elements of D-Day, and they used a 15-minute section of each one. Which means that no matter how long the movie may be, it is really not long enough.

TCM is showing WWII movies all day. I’ll DVR some (including TLD again) and watch eventually.

p.s. My buddy visited Normandy about 20 years ago and he is (still) furious; he says these historic beaches are not properly maintained.

“We saved the French asses and they can’t even keep it up properly,” he says. What about that, n_l?

p.p.s. Miss France tells me that Normandy is where the French rednecks live.
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: Cusser on June 06, 2019, 06:23:32 AM
Watch Saving Private Ryan for 2nd time to better understand D-Day.  Ordinary folks had to either die where they disembarked from the transports or move forward towards the Germans.  The Atlantic Wall that the Germans spent several years, millions of Reichmarks, and lives of many enslaved people building was breached in a few hours.

Had that landing failed, many think that the USA would've pulled out of the European war.  That's the scenario of several "alternate history" books and films too.

Great film too.  Especially liked the pan shot a couple of days after showing the large amount of Allied ships now docked there.  And the morph shot of Matt Damon into the older character at the end was done extremely well.  Coordinating the scenes with action in both foreground and background was very Leone-esque.
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: noodles_leone on June 06, 2019, 09:59:44 AM
“We saved the French asses and they can’t even keep it up properly,” he says. What about that, n_l?

Haha I don't think you imagine how many historical landmarks per square meter we have in Europe. You guys only focus on the things you were involved in, but we have more important places to take care of :)
That being said, we now have a terrific, high budget D-Day museum in Caen, so that's where the money went I guess.

p.p.s. Miss France tells me that Normandy is where the French rednecks live.

Well, it's more complicated. First of all, we have A LOT of different places  for our French rednecks (and if you ask a true parisian, he'll tell you everybody outside of Paris is a redneck. Paris was new yorkish even before New York existed). But in Normandy, we have rednecks and also rich parisians who buy houses there to spend their weekends and retirement. So it's sort of a mixed bag. Kind of like your Vermont, maybe?
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: cigar joe on June 06, 2019, 06:14:58 PM
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Well, it's more complicated. First of all, we have A LOT of different places  for our French rednecks (and if you ask a true parisian, he'll tell you everybody outside of Paris is a redneck. Paris was new yorkish even before New York existed). But in Normandy, we have rednecks and also rich parisians who buy houses there to spend their weekends and retirement. So it's sort of a mix bag. Kind of like your Vermont, maybe?

Lol like upstate NY
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 06, 2019, 11:29:55 PM
Lol like upstate NY

I was just thinking of that.

 I spent every summer for years in Upstate NY.  Rednecks live in this quiet place all year long, then for two months of summer New Yorkers come up there and the rednecks don’t know what hit ‘em  ;D
Title: Re: D-Day
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 25, 2019, 08:47:44 PM


RE: THE LONGEST DAY,

 I saw it not long ago for the first time. It tries to cover a little bit of everything. So you never really get to follow one group for too long. It’s like if 10 different documentaries were made about 10 different elements of D-Day, and they used a 15-minute section of each one. Which means that no matter how long the movie may be, it is really not long enough.

TCM is showing WWII movies all day. I’ll DVR some (including TLD again) and watch eventually.



I watched The Longest Day again; my feelings are the same as before. You never get to follow or care too much about any group; none of the Allied actors are particularly great; it's more fun to watch the Germans, who are always screaming and angry.

Also, those rear projections in the shots of the generals against the water, are some of the worst rear projections I have ever seen.

Not a bad movie overall; I give it a 7/10. I can see myself watching it again on D-Day in 5 years from now.