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Title: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: noodles_leone on September 15, 2013, 12:10:29 PM
Ennio (+ full orchestra and chorus) will perform at Bercy, Paris:

http://www.bercy.fr/programme/concert/1421/Ennio_Morricone

Got my ticket. I saw him the last time he went to Paris, 11 years ago, it was the greatest concert I ever saw.
They put big ads in the subway so if you're around and want to buy a ticket, hurry up.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: Dust Devil on September 15, 2013, 01:32:06 PM
Ah...


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: noodles_leone on September 15, 2013, 02:24:26 PM
Eh...


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: Dust Devil on September 16, 2013, 01:33:01 AM
Yeah well, it was the only thing I could come up with, thinking back of all the concerts I couldn't go on...


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: noodles_leone on January 28, 2014, 01:30:23 PM
It's in a week, and it's going to rock.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: noodles_leone on February 04, 2014, 04:18:38 PM
It was tonight and it did rock.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: Dust Devil on February 05, 2014, 07:22:48 AM
It was tonight and it did rock.

Rich dipsh*t.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: Milan NS on February 05, 2014, 07:35:48 AM
http://rockerparis.blogspot.fr/2014/01/ennio-morricone-bercy-paris-feb-04-2014.html


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 05, 2014, 12:36:56 PM
Sorry n_l, but "it did rock" won't suffice; we need a fuller report than that.....


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: noodles_leone on February 06, 2014, 10:30:53 AM
Yes sir.

As usual the concert was divided in 2 parts separated by an intermission. Each part was divided in several "chapters" of whatever you call it. D&D's favorite impersonation of Edda Dell'Orso was on stage only for the final "chapter" of each part.

It all started with a short movie of Ennio Morricone talking about his life, music, his son... All in Italian, with French subtitles. Bercy is a huge hall and I had friends everywhere in the room. I was pretty close to the screens so I had no trouble reading the subtitles, but I knwo that many people in the back could understand a word. Hence the agitation of the crow noted in the previous review. It was quite well done and interesting. Among the interesting stuff Ennio says in the interview, here are a few ones:

- the importance of not admiring too much another composer. You cannot become a real composer if you try to imitate someone.
- he didn't try to sound "westernish" in the scores he did for Leone. Apart from a few elements (the coyote from GBU wouldn't have been a coyote...), his music would have sounded the same if the movie had been set in China or Madrid.
- he doesn't compose "applied music" (such as OST) like he composes "absolute music". In soundtracks, he's serving the director. In "absolute music", he has a more scientific method. He needs to be able to explain why he chose each note. This mathematical approach doesn't surprise me: his concerto stuff is very cold to me. It sounds like you need to study musicology to get what he's doing.
- he tried to discourage Andrea from entering the music business. He did't think he would succeed. He was surprised the music composed by Andrea is "excellent" (sic).
- he "fired" (sic) many directors, even good ones. He needs trust to work. He also wants a director who listen to him and not a director who gives him ideas.

Then the concert started. I had paid for a €150 ticket (the most expensive category) because I knew the Bercy Hall is a terrible place. If you have a cheap seat, you don't see anything. I was worried though because €150 is a fucking lot of money to me. I just thought that if Ennio is in town once every 10 years, it was probably my last chance. So €100 would be something I could miss for a few months, but seeing Ennio Morricone, the man who taught me what music is (and for a good part, was cinema is too), in good condition was important to me. I didn't want to regret that. As soon as I saw where my seat was, I nkew I had made the right choice: I was at the perfect place, quite close  (although on the opposite side) to the guy who took the video in the review posted by Milan NS.  I could see the moves of most musicians. I could see the hands of the pianist. The only major guy I couldn't really see was the 1st violin, who was turning his back to me.

The titles of the music were written in the worst French translation ever on the big screens. "Le Bon la brute et le TRAUND" (instead of Truand), "Pour Une Poignée de Dynamite" (instead of Il Etait Une Fois... La  Révolution), "Les Intouchables" (instead of Les Incorruptibles... which is funny because Les Intouchables is a recent french movie), "L'ecstase Of Gold" (yeah they just stopped translating half way through this one)...

Anyway, here is the set list and my comments.


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1 - Life And Legend

The Untouchable => great way to open the gig. This song is much better live than on the album. More powerful.
OUATIA (Deborah's Theme, Poverty, OUATIA) => magnificent, very similar to what you ear in the soundtrack
La leggenda del pianista sull'oceano => idem

2 - Miscellaneous Scores

H2S => never heard of that. Not a fan.
The Sicilian Clan => nice version, a bit too soft for me. The best version of that music is -by far- the one on the soundtrack. The album and most live versions are too cheesy, the soundtrack is far more aggressive and creative.
Love Circle (Love Circle, Groce d'Amore)=> never heard of that. Not a fan.
Come Maddalena=> regular version

3 - Myth And Modernity In The Cinema Of Sergio Leone

YEAH! Rigacci in a red dress.

GBU => great version. The transposition of the coyote scream is always a problem when this music is played live, thy managed to do something quite cool here
OUATITW => magnificent, very similar to what you ear in the soundtrack. One of the highlights of the evening.
DYS => nice version
The Ecstasy Of Gold => best live version ever. I was shaking. The whole public was on fire. My Facebook feed was covered in amateur videos of this one the day after.

INTERMISSION

4 - No title for that part

The Professional (Chi Mai) => nice version, but I don't really like the music so...
Cinema Paradisio => great one

5 - Social Cinema

The Battle Of Alger => nice one
Indagine su un cittadino al di sopra di ogni sospetto => Great version! I like this music but it's often quite cold. I loved the way they did it. Very lively.
Pereira Pretend => I don't rememeber what this is
La classe operaia va in paradiso => didn't know it, didn't like it
Casualties Of War => I definitely don't like it. Sounds like someone tries do imitate Morricone's Novecento or OUATIA.
Abolisson => I didn't know this before watching the videos posted in the Barclay's Center thread, it was fucking great.

6 - Lyric Tragic and Epic cinema

Heyyyyyyy! Rigacci's back.

Il deserto dei Tartari => nice one
Richard III => nice one
Il deserto dei Tartari (retake) => nice one
The Mission (Gabriel's Oboe, Falls, On Earth As It Is In Heaven) => huge highlight. Magnificent.

And the encores were:

Here's to You
The Ecstasy Of Gold
On Earth As It Is In Heaven
__________________________________________________________________


In conclusion, it was fucking awesome as fuck, and the musics he plays are always the same. If anyone is interested I can give more information about the musicians who were on stage, because I'm a stupid fan boy and I bought the program:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bfzfmb2IgAA0l5y.jpg)


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: Milan NS on February 06, 2014, 10:56:39 AM
"Abolisson => I didn't know this before watching the videos posted in the Barclay's Center thread, it was fucking great"

- glad we could help!

What a freakin' great review... thanks for posting the program.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 06, 2014, 02:39:23 PM
nice review, n_l.... Barclays Center event is a month-and-a-half away. still enough time for Rigacci to get venereal disease


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 06, 2014, 02:43:15 PM
http://rockerparis.blogspot.fr/2014/01/ennio-morricone-bercy-paris-feb-04-2014.html

does this version of Ecstasy of Gold sound a bit fast?


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: noodles_leone on February 06, 2014, 04:46:30 PM
Faster than usual, but believe me: it's amazing.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: stanton on February 07, 2014, 02:43:21 AM
It sounds too bombastic for my taste of music.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 07, 2014, 04:35:39 AM
I must have friggin fever and flu. Maybe even strep. Gotta see doctor. Looks like the weather, lack of sleep, and partying may be exacting their vengeance on me. Or perhaps the devil that watches over Susanna Rigacci is turning around the thousand curses I've laid upon her extra large ass.....




Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: noodles_leone on February 07, 2014, 07:48:44 AM
It sounds too bombastic for my taste of music.

Well I have to agree here. I was wondering why the hell did Ennio put a Metallica song in the middle of his concert?


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: dave jenkins on February 07, 2014, 08:51:22 AM
I must have friggin fever and flu. Maybe even strep. Gotta see doctor. Looks like the weather, lack of sleep, and partying may be exacting their vengeance on me. Or perhaps the devil that watches over Susanna Rigacci is turning around the thousand curses I've laid upon her extra large ass.....
Could be a long-lasting Super Bowl present from the Irish girl. Did you check to make sure she'd had all her shots?


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 07, 2014, 09:19:09 AM
No, there's no rashes. Just a helluva lotta soreness... And I was slightly sick before the Super Bowl already; a few quiet nights spent indoors drinking soda water might have gotten rid of whatever I have, but.......


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 07, 2014, 09:54:30 AM
Just got back from doctor. Fever, maybe some virus too. No social diseases....


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: stanton on February 08, 2014, 02:55:28 AM
Well I have to agree here. I was wondering why the hell did Ennio put a Metallica song in the middle of his concert?

Well, yes, uhh ... Metallica is boring anyway.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: Dlanor on February 09, 2014, 05:44:00 PM
I found that On earth as it is in heaven was kind like overloaded in instruments and voices. The result was confusing and chaotic. We couldn't really distinguish the voices and localize the instruments. All that resulted in a mess. Contrary to the CD where all is very clear (despite the many voices and instruments of this piece).
I was pretty far of the orchestra, wich means I had difficulty to clearly see things. And I couldn't read the subtitles of the documentary wich was frustrating.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: noodles_leone on February 09, 2014, 05:59:49 PM
From what I read in comments here and there on the web, it seems that the sound mix was far from perfect for people who were not as close a I was lucky to be. I was happy with the mix but it has probably more to do with the placement than with anything else.

Bercy is a terrible place for a concert: it's far too big. It's more of a stadium than a concert hall. It's what pushed me to pay the highest price. They should definitely have used cameras and the big screens. I went to see a concert of M there in december and the use of the screens (as well as M's great mise en scene) made up for the cheap seats I had at the time.


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: Milan NS on February 09, 2014, 07:37:55 PM
New concert dates added. Lucky Germans in december. For you guys it's Nîmes on 5 july, but you probably already heard this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ennio_Morricone_concerts#Upcoming_concerts

http://www.chimai.com/index.cfm?module=CRT&mode=LIS

http://www.spectacles.carrefour.fr/billets-spectacles/actualite-musique/Apres-Bercy-Ennio-Morricone-a-Nimes-le-5-juillet--483165.htm


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: noodles_leone on February 10, 2014, 09:50:03 AM
I didn't know he was playing in Nimes next July. Thanks. He'll also be playing in Berlin tomorrow, so yeah, lucky Germans. May be we should have a thread about his upcoming concerts?


Title: Re: Morricone Concert In Paris, February 4, 2014
Post by: Milan NS on February 11, 2014, 03:04:20 PM
"He'll also be playing in Berlin tomorrow, so yeah, lucky Germans."

- two concerts in april as well...