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Title: RIP Tuco
Post by: Lil Brutto on June 25, 2014, 12:07:22 AM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/eli-wallach-dead-good-bad-714794


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: noodles_leone on June 25, 2014, 12:41:38 AM
Sad news.  :(
RIP  Eli, Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez will live forever.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: titoli on June 25, 2014, 12:57:22 AM
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Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 25, 2014, 01:07:50 AM
I am terribly sad to hear this  :'(

Eli was one of those people I loved watching anytime, not just when he was performing. Even when he was giving an interview on TV, or accepting his well-deserved Honorary Academy Award, he was so funny to watch, I just loved the guy.
I guess it's the look and the accent and whatever else, but somehow, this Jewish kid from Brooklyn made a name playing Mexicans and Italians in the movies  ;D But he could do much more than that. He was great, of course, as Mexican bandits in GBU and The Magnificent Seven, but I also loved him in The Lineup, Baby Doll, The Godfather Part III (just about the only good thing in that movie), and even in smaller roles, like his one scene in Mystic River; and even in a shitty movie like The Hunter (1980), I was able to enjoy his scenes cuz I just loved watching him.

98 years old. Married to the same woman for 66 years.

what a life!

Rest In Peace, Eli. God bless you  :)

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Did anyone here ever see him in a stage performance?


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: columba on June 25, 2014, 01:11:47 AM
Sad news...


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 25, 2014, 01:23:58 AM
NY Times  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/25/movies/eli-wallach-multifaceted-actor-dies-at-98.html

Variety http://variety.com/2014/film/news/eli-wallach-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-villain-dies-at-98-1201246070/


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Dirty Rat on June 25, 2014, 01:49:50 AM
Yes, heard this this morning in the UK on Radio 4. They played a couple of great clips from GB&U plus The Misfits and Baby Doll.
Sad news but he had a long and happy life

R.I.P


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Juan Miranda on June 25, 2014, 03:35:45 AM
Sad to read about this on waking this morning, but as has been noted he had a long and successful life. I was lucky enough to see him in the flesh on the stage of the National Film Theatre (as it was still called then) talking about his work and his personal life, and while it would be unkind to call it a "performance", he did seem to be relaying a stream of well polished anecdotes. He was funny, nattily dressed, and looked about 20 years younger than his real age. His wife was in the audience too, no doubt smiling indulgently as he told such and such a story yet again, like how Marilyn Monroe would babysit their children for them.

"These days," he complained at one point, "I only get to play old Jews or Italians." I had the impression that it was the "old" part of his observation which was the main concern. Thank's to Leone for giving him the chance to play that memorable Mexican all those years ago.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: cigar joe on June 25, 2014, 04:42:03 AM
RIP and thanks for the memories,  :'(


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Jordan Krug on June 25, 2014, 05:36:09 AM
Although he was best known for GBU, he always gave a great performance, whatever the film. I love the movie the lineup, of course baby doll and magnificent seven, misfits etc. Even a knock off spaghetti like aces high has some great wallach moments. Sad to hear but as others say he had a pretty full life, we all should be so lucky to make it to 98 with all our marbles intact like Eli. Rest in peace.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Groggy on June 25, 2014, 05:50:08 AM
What awful news to wake up to. :'(


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: SeanSeanSean on June 25, 2014, 06:16:13 AM

RIP Tuco!

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/eli-wallach-dead-good-bad-714794


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Cusser on June 25, 2014, 07:16:30 AM
A golden-haired angel watches over him.

When I first saw GBU in 1968 that I knew who Eli Wallach was, as I had seen Magnificent Seven and How the West was Won.  To this day, I believe that his performance in GBU may be the absolute best acting display that I have ever seen, all the little "Tuco" mannerisms.

All his life, folks would call out "Tuco" when they saw Eli.  And he will live forever through that.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: sadhill on June 25, 2014, 08:45:03 AM
Rest in Peace Mr. Wallach

(http://i60.tinypic.com/v2xo46.jpg)

Tuco Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez is now laid to rest at Sad Hill Cemetery.

 It would be fitting that Ecstacy of Gold be played at his funeral as Eli's life was surely a golden one.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: oigres17 on June 25, 2014, 11:02:47 AM
R.I.P.
a really sad new


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: T.H. on June 25, 2014, 11:34:12 AM
I didn't see this, I originally posted my thoughts in the off topic thread.

I recommend his book for those who haven't read it.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: dave jenkins on June 25, 2014, 11:45:33 AM
NY Times  http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/25/movies/eli-wallach-multifaceted-actor-dies-at-98.html
Contains an embedded video entitled "At Home With Eli Wallach" from 2011.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: wind demon on June 25, 2014, 12:58:52 PM
The great one has gone. Now only will live on in the screen forever!!!


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Rojo Ramone on June 25, 2014, 02:00:33 PM
VERY sad news!

Adios Amigo and thank you for your brilliant work.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Smokey on June 25, 2014, 02:07:21 PM
Heard this at 5:00 this morning. A sad day for me. RIP Tuco.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: PowerRR on June 25, 2014, 02:39:13 PM
And then there was Clint


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 25, 2014, 04:17:17 PM
And then there was Clint

and Claudia


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 25, 2014, 04:35:18 PM
Wallach movies I've seen:

GBU
The Magnificent Seven
How the West Was Won
The Lineup
Baby Doll
The Hunter
Mystic River
The Godfather Part III

Can anyone recommend any other good ones?


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 25, 2014, 04:41:55 PM
funny shit, a clip from Shoot First ... Ask Questions Later aka The White, the Yellow, and the Black

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPzMRqjb75Q

English speakers, listen closely to the words the woman is saying. Italian speakers will get it right away  ;)


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: noodles_leone on June 25, 2014, 05:01:25 PM
Wallach movies I've seen:

GBU
The Magnificent Seven
How the West Was Won
The Lineup
Baby Doll
The Hunter
Mystic River
The Godfather Part III

Can anyone recommend any other good ones?

He has a Mystic River-like cameo in The Ghost Writer.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: PowerRR on June 25, 2014, 05:55:30 PM
and Claudia
and robert de niro and elizabeth mcgovern and jennifer connelly and james woods and burt young and tuesday weld and treat williams and will forsythe and danny aiello and ennio morricone


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Novecento on June 25, 2014, 06:19:05 PM
He has a Mystic River-like cameo in The Ghost Writer.

That's a great one. Having said that, the original title of "The Ghost" as used for the book and the UK release is way better. No idea why the changed the name for the North American version


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 26, 2014, 12:43:50 AM
and robert de niro and elizabeth mcgovern and jennifer connelly and james woods and burt young and tuesday weld and treat williams and will forsythe and danny aiello and ennio morricone

yes, all the actors from OUATIA are still alive, except James Hayden, who played the adult Patsy, and died of a heroin overdose before the movie was released. But from Leone's Westerns, the only stars still alive are Eastwood and Cardinale. Oh, and Gabrielle Ferzetti. We discussed this a little while back, which actors from Leone Westerns are still alive (I think after Aldo Sambrell died?)
Now, we all know that Enzo Petito, who is old enough to be Wallach's grandfather, will never die.

UPDATE: I found the thread where we were discussing it - Eastwood, Cardinale, Ferzetti, Terrence Hill, Rada Rassimov, Maria Monti, and Marianne Koch are still alive ironically, it was in the "Happy Birthday Tuco" thread http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=11068.msg168799#msg168799

the cake will stop at 98 candles. Not bad, Eli. Not bad at all  :)


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 26, 2014, 01:32:42 AM
Here are some tribute videos

CNN tribute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iua3R9T3IM4

TCM Remembers tribute; just a bunch of silent film clips with music playing over it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JP5EMEx9Jys

CelebTV tribute https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGiwKPtSi4A

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I'm gonna post some Wallach clips. Many of them have been posted here in one place or another, but it'll be nice to have them in one place:

Here is a 1973 interview on a public television show called "Day at Night," hosted by James Day featuring Eli with mutton chops!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L84LBWr3tI4

Retrobites clip from 1976, of Eli and his wife Anne Jackson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EoCPhxtWUOc

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Eli received an Honorary Academy Award at the Governors Awards November 13, 2010:

A few days before the Governors Awards show, NY Times film critic A.O. Scott, Wallach's great-nephew, did a little vid with him called "At Home with Eli Wallach"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNJbXwhgtOw

Here is what looks like a behind-the-scenes video from the Governors Awards, with some interviews with Eli, and other movie people talking about Eli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QnlNEymWJI


At the Governors Awards show:

Robert De Niro speaking about Eli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc1dawSjTIk
Eastwood presents the award to Eli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2T_zJFZ3us
Eli's acceptance speech https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N37u6BuN0MA
Anne Jackson toasts Eli https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SN5OF7cW49A


This is an amateur video of Eli speaking (somewhere?), introduced by George Lopez, the night after the Governors Awards show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cwL8k1Fh8g

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Eli interview on PROFILES; this is a 10-minute episode teaser https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc1dawSjTIk

clip of Eli Wallach and Cloris Leachman in New York, I Love You (2009) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qIDlz2RoPU

Eli's episode of Cool in Your Code, filmed at Sardi's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0nFsXZv1XQ

Eli on Marilyn Monroe and the Actors Studio http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xx-NpKuJ5Y


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: titoli on June 26, 2014, 03:12:42 AM
In the De Niro's clip when he bares his teeth to laugh, that's Tuco.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 26, 2014, 05:12:23 AM
In addition to all his great performances, and how enjoyable he was to watch in interviews, there is another thing that Eli gets credit for: convincing Henry Fonda to accept Leone's offer to play Frank in OUATITW. I'm sure just about everyone here is familiar with that story by now; here, once again, is the clip of Fonda telling the story http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHI6Hl7FUqA (In this particular clip, he doesn't mention Wallach by name, he just says "an actor friend of mine," but he is referring to Eli.)


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: moviesceleton on June 26, 2014, 09:12:37 AM
 :'( Somehow I had convinced myself that he was going to make it to full 100.

RIP


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Huey on June 26, 2014, 02:01:27 PM
Very sad but 98 is a hell of a long life and, as someone said above, he was happily married to his wife for 66 years. He was a great actor and I have always said he should have been given an Oscar for Tuco. But, the Hollywood establishment in the sixties didn't recognise foreign moviemakers like Sergio or the deservedly popular films they might create or the truly great performances in them. RIP Eli and thanks for the memories.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: tucumcari bound on June 27, 2014, 09:36:44 AM
Damn, I wanted him to reach 100 years old. Either way, he lives on forever through his work.....


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: Dust Devil on June 28, 2014, 08:25:06 AM
I too was shocked to hear it the other day... Still, he had a great career and will be remembered as long as there is cinema.

Rest in peace, Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on June 30, 2014, 09:29:22 AM
Watched GBU again last nite.

You will live on forever, Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez, known as The Rat :) :) :)


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: dave jenkins on June 30, 2014, 11:39:08 AM
Watched GBU again last nite.

You will live on forever, Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez, known as The Rat :) :) :)
Oh, so you watched one of the English language versions.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: cigar joe on July 01, 2014, 04:38:31 AM
nice article http://moviemorlocks.com/2014/06/26/i-wonder-if-my-brother-remembers-his-brother-remembering-eli-wallach-1915-2014/ (http://moviemorlocks.com/2014/06/26/i-wonder-if-my-brother-remembers-his-brother-remembering-eli-wallach-1915-2014/)


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: dave jenkins on July 01, 2014, 05:26:43 AM
nice article http://moviemorlocks.com/2014/06/26/i-wonder-if-my-brother-remembers-his-brother-remembering-eli-wallach-1915-2014/ (http://moviemorlocks.com/2014/06/26/i-wonder-if-my-brother-remembers-his-brother-remembering-eli-wallach-1915-2014/)
Wow, I'll say! That writer gets the Ebert Award for July.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: wind demon on July 01, 2014, 09:33:15 PM
Anyone think GBU's stature will only rise now, each time someone in a movie goes off it attains more mythical status . someone rapper once said that "you're worth more if you're in jail or dead" and this goes true
When Eastwood goes the movie will seem way more mythical than it is.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: cigar joe on July 02, 2014, 05:23:04 AM
Anyone think GBU's stature will only rise now, each time someone in a movie goes off it attains more mythical status . someone rapper once said that "you're worth more if you're in jail or dead" and this goes true
When Eastwood goes the movie will seem way more mythical than it is.

No doubt.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: dave jenkins on July 02, 2014, 01:50:15 PM
An appreciation from a unique angle: http://thedigitalbits.com/columns/my-two-cents/070214_1145


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on July 03, 2014, 12:33:13 AM
Another great moment in that scene with the brothers Ramirez: after Pablo and Tuco hit each other and Tuco is leaving, Pablo calls him back, and Tuco doesn't just leave: he stops at the doorway a moment .... Pauses .... Thinks about it ..... Then, without turning around, gives a dismissive wave of his hand and leaves. That little moment is so awesome, how he hesitates then decides, 'what the hell for, fuck it' and leaves. That's a perfect sense of timing. I haven't seen the script so I don't know if that was meant to be in there or if Eli improvised it on the spot, but that is one of the many subtle moments you find in great movies, that distinguishes them from good movies.
One of these days, I will get Eli's autiobography from the library.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: dave jenkins on July 03, 2014, 08:29:59 AM
Another great moment in that scene with the brothers Ramirez: after Pablo and Tuco hit each other and Tuco is leaving, Pablo calls him back, and Tuco doesn't just leave: he stops at the doorway a moment .... Pauses .... Thinks about it ..... Then, without turning around, gives a dismissive wave of his hand and leaves. That little moment is so awesome, how he hesitates then decides, 'what the hell for, fuck it' and leaves. That's a perfect sense of timing. I haven't seen the script so I don't know if that was meant to be in there or if Eli improvised it on the spot. . .
I doubt he improvised it; I'm sure he gave the matter a lot of thought before it was filmed. He probably had to do a run-though first also to get the timing right. And I'm pretty sure it was from Eli--I haven't seen the script either, but I'd be very surprised to find that such specific actorly directions were written in.


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: drinkanddestroy on July 03, 2014, 09:13:41 AM
I doubt he improvised it; I'm sure he gave the matter a lot of thought before it was filmed. He probably had to do a run-though first also to get the timing right. And I'm pretty sure it was from Eli--I haven't seen the script either, but I'd be very surprised to find that such specific actorly directions were written in.

I don't know about the "actorly directions," I just meant, does it say, "Tuco hesitates, but leaves without turning around" or did it just say "Tuco leaves."


Title: Re: RIP Tuco
Post by: moviesceleton on July 03, 2014, 11:24:18 AM
I don't know about the "actorly directions," I just meant, does it say, "Tuco hesitates, but leaves without turning around" or did it just say "Tuco leaves."
I'd bet for the latter. But that doesn't make it "improvisation". It's simply called "professional actor doing his job well".