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Title: Sabata (1969)
Post by: General Sibley on August 13, 2004, 08:02:53 AM
Caught the last half of Sabata on the Western Channel last night (after watching the first half of da Bears exhibition game, blech!).  This was surprisingly decent for a spag, still stupid as hell but at least it was watchable.  Great Morricone score, this is the best non-Leone score from him that I've heard.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: The Smoker on August 13, 2004, 11:31:21 AM
I find them a little stupid. William Berger with the gun banjo. Kinda a James Bond bandwagon jump.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: El Bon on August 13, 2004, 04:53:35 PM
Actually the music for Sabata was by Marcello Giombini.
It was a catchy theme though agreed.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: General Sibley on August 14, 2004, 04:10:29 AM
Wow, I could've sworn that was a Morricone soundtrack.
He did a good job of copying the style.  Looked him up on imdb, included in his not very glorious body of work is a parody called "For a Few Dollars LESS" -  I thought all these spags were parodies  ???


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: redyred on August 14, 2004, 08:11:50 AM
I thought Sabata was a bit weightless to be honest, on of the worst of the best known SWs. It annoyed me that banjo gets turned into a villain, he obviously has the potential to be an awesome hero.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Belkin on August 14, 2004, 11:59:46 AM
SABATA, great title, great main track, lousy movie. Even worse was YUL BRYNNER'S stab at the title character in ADIOS SABATA (1971?). :o


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: mortimer on August 15, 2004, 09:43:08 AM
Sabata was a fun film. Not great by any stretch. Lots of gadgets to amuse. No where near the likes of The Big Gundown or The Great Silence in the ranks of the non Leone SW.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Two Kinds of ... on December 02, 2004, 06:06:43 PM
This is on the Westerns Channel RIGHT NOW.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on April 02, 2005, 12:50:46 AM
has anyone seen sabata or the return of sabata ? these are coming out on dvd in Aug. in the UK as is death rides a horse.
i have read about sabata and it sounds interesting, can anyone help?


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Marco Leone on April 02, 2005, 03:19:24 AM
The first Sabata is a great film, starring Lee Van Cleef and William Berger.  A good twisting story with lots of action, and circus stunts!  Would probably make my Top 20 Spaghetti Westerns.  The SW Web Board recently carried out a poll of top SW's, and it was rated 17th.

However..... Return of Sabata is, in my opinion, appalling!  It takes the whole circus thing far to far.  About the worst of the SW's I have seen.  Incidently it was ranked 70th in the poll.

Death Rides a Horse is better than both!


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Groggy on April 02, 2005, 05:16:43 AM
I know I've said this before, but personally I'm not a big fan of "Sabata".  I thought it had some good moments, but on the whole it was cheesy and overwrought.  I seem to recall there being a shootout every two minutes or so, and I thought the circus acrobat was a completely stupid and moronic character.  Lee Van Cleef was very good, though, and William Berger was okay.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Tim on April 02, 2005, 07:08:13 PM
  Sabata is in my top twenty spaghetties.  Good performances from LVC and William Berger and lots of fun overall.  Theme song that will get stuck in your head.

  And you didn't mention it, but the other Sabata sequel, Adios Sabata, sometimes called Indio Black, is enjoyable.  Only bad part is Yul Brynner in bellbottoms.  Quite an outfit.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Marco Leone on April 03, 2005, 05:01:31 AM
Derringdo - I've not seen Adios Sabata/Indio Black yet.  Is it closer to the original, or "Return"?  Or is it quite different.  As I understand it, it is not officially a sequel in any event.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Marco Leone on April 03, 2005, 09:51:25 AM
Cheers for that.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on April 07, 2005, 07:02:14 AM
Thanks gents, for me the madder a film the better!! apart from the dollars trilogy, i loved Django kill, companeros like i say the madder the better!


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Belkin on April 07, 2005, 10:16:04 AM
Thanks gents, for me the madder a film the better!! apart from the dollars trilogy, i loved Django kill, companeros like i say the madder the better!
Well, Indio, if ya want mad, indeed insane, check out two LVC flicks, BAD MAN'S RIVER and the immortal CAPTAIN APACHE (this one has the added bonus of LVC singing the main title song!) I strongly recommend a high dosage of alcohol to be consumed before, during and after the screening(s). Life will never be the sane again.....oops sorry.....same again! Now, where did I put my CAPTAIN APACHE soundtrack....? Time fer' a drink me think!  ;)


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on April 07, 2005, 10:53:40 AM
TELL ME MORE....


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: spag fan on April 07, 2005, 02:04:00 PM
You can get Capt. Apache & Bad Man's River, under different titles, on Brentwoods 10-Movie Tales of The Gun.

Here you go:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00008OM7A/qid=1112904700/sr=8-2/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl74/104-5225763-3635109?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846

Also includes Corbucci's excellent Hellbenders, Telly Savalas in Pancho Villa (amusing), as well as the awful Town Called Hell/ aka Town Called Bastard.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on April 08, 2005, 01:53:52 AM
apart from Leone's films, when it comes to the spag. westerns i just like the creative ideas, such as in django kill when the liquid gold pours over the guy, or in django when hes dragging a coffin, and don't even get me started about jack palance in companeros or the mercenary, in my name is nobody when he shots the dwarf's stilts. that kinda stuff.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: cigar joe on April 08, 2005, 04:50:54 AM
I just wish they would have drawn it out timewise, it would be the equivalent of all Hollywood production companies making westerns, the talent and imagination well would go dry quickly.

If it had drawn out some of the imaginative ideas might have been used in more classic enduring westerns rather than in a lot of B- & C movies


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Marco Leone on April 08, 2005, 08:09:09 AM
Ha, Indio, if you like the weird stuff you should check out Get Mean.  I watched it the otherday - completely insane - with Tony Anthony's Stranger battling it SW stylee in a barbarian infested Spain.  Strange!


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: titoli on July 26, 2005, 01:32:26 PM
Quote
(the Italian R2 releases had interviews with the director, which are reportedly a hoot to watch, because he's very energetic and talkative and has fond memories of everyone involved.)

comfirm.

I like the 3 movies, quite repetitive but fun to watch nonetheless.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on July 28, 2005, 12:39:21 PM


No word on missing scenes (US releases of all three movies were cut: Sabata lost part of Linda Veras's bath scene

WHAT!!!! someone needs to find this, she's one hot moma.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Banjo on July 29, 2005, 08:58:11 AM
   Shobary's review of Return of Sabata mentions Van Cleef juggling!!! I have the UK Warner Home Video and i recently got hold of a copy of the Japanese Stingray dvd,neither of which contain this strange occurence.Can anyone shed any light on what dvd/vhs issues have this scene?


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on July 29, 2005, 11:19:09 AM
i like the sound of that. it sounds a bit mad. altogether now ... ' nine fingered man...sabata'.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on July 30, 2005, 12:03:40 AM
well i'm happy to get them on dvd. my copy of death rides a horse is bad so i hope they are nicely restored.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Tim on August 17, 2005, 10:07:36 PM
  In the forum at dvdanswers.com, one of the posters was excited to see a western starring both LVC and Yul Brynner.  I guess he hasn't seen any of the sabata movies.

  Someone did correct him.  Better now than later.

  Anyone know if they will sell the movies separately or just as part of a three-pack? 


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on August 18, 2005, 01:14:43 AM
Tim... they came out this week my friend take a look.
no extras but the picture is fantastic.
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=sr&page=title&r=R2&title=628911
http://www.play.com/play247.asp?pa=sr&page=title&r=R2&title=628907

death rides a horse is also out. i got them and i'm one happy boy!


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on August 18, 2005, 10:49:36 AM
i've seen death rides before but my video picture was not good. sabata was great, just good fun, not too serious a great romp. i really liked berger in it. the mans got such a great face. Van Cleef was great but he always is.
return of sabata wasn't as good its at the wrong end of the spag westerns time, but i liked it cause it wasn't serious.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Tim on August 19, 2005, 11:04:14 AM
  indio, are you in the UK?  I live in chicago so the release date isn't for about a month.  I've been saving up for a region free dvd player but that whole college thing gets in the way. 

  Either way, thanks for the heads up.  Looking forward to seeing at least two of the movies on dvd.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: indio on August 20, 2005, 12:18:16 AM
yes Tim i live in the UK. sorry i didn't know the dvds were not out in US yet.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: dave jenkins on September 15, 2005, 10:58:56 PM
Just in case anyone hasn't heard.........


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Leone Admirer on September 17, 2005, 03:19:59 PM
I've bought the R2 MGM's of Sabata and the Return of Sabata. I presume the R1's will use the same transfers and if so, they are rather good.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: HEX on October 11, 2005, 12:45:34 PM
less then a week left for these SW gems(except for return. which isnt horrible) to arrive on dvd in there boxed set glory.
as far as iam conscerned i dont think there are any special features of any kind :-[.
but its 30 bucks or so which is not a bad price.



if anyone has heard of anything more about this set that i did not say, please inform me here.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Cat Stevens on October 17, 2005, 09:08:19 AM
I would have loved for there to have been some nice extras with this set, but I'll at least be happy with the 2.35:1 anamorphic transfer.  :)


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: HEX on October 17, 2005, 12:10:19 PM
thanks CAT. u answered a question thats been boggling my mind for awhile.

that there are no extra features. oh well :-\


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: HEX on October 20, 2005, 10:14:16 AM
wally world? is this some dvd website i dont know about?

the only wally world i know of is the spoof of dineyland in the film VACATION with chevy chase.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on October 20, 2005, 10:55:56 AM
Best price I've seen so far........$22.49 at Deep Discount DVD........w/ free shipping. Good company...I've ordered from them before.

http://search.deepdiscountdvd.com/search?p=Q&ts=custom&w=sabata
 


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: HEX on October 21, 2005, 03:17:28 PM
thanks for fixin the mix-up.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: cigar joe on October 22, 2005, 07:13:16 AM
Well saw this out in the mall yesterday. I saw Sabata on the big screen wasn't that impressed back then, sort of like a Wild Wild West, now $30 is too steep for me to plunk down to just get the one film out of the set, now if they made them seperate I'd buy the Sabata.

MGM you lost a sale from me with this stupid bundling idea.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Banjo on October 22, 2005, 07:31:17 AM
Hey Cigar Joe,you should check out  Ebay every now and again where i got the whole trilogy from a regular UK seller for just £5.As you know the original is the best but Adios Sabata isn't far behind with a great Bruno Nicolai soundtrack.The often derided Return of Sabata is a bit of a mess but the basic storyline is OK and i've seen LVC in much worse films!!!


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Tim on October 23, 2005, 04:52:43 PM
  I would have preferred if MGM sold these three films separately too.  I like Sabata and Adios, Sabata but have heard some negative reviews about the Return of Sabata so I'm skeptical about buying the set.

  At this point, I'll wait a couple months and see if the price plummets even farther to around $20 for all three.  Then, maybe I'll pick them up.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: cigar joe on October 23, 2005, 06:16:23 PM
I can wait on this one too.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: HEX on November 04, 2005, 06:10:33 PM
sorry for the cliche title. ;D


i just noticed something in RETURN OF SABATA, the sidekick of VAN CLEEFS makes reference to SABATA'S past as being in the confederacy(the south), while in the first movie SABATA clearly fought for the north

NOTE

blue union attire.
BANJO also says to SABATA that he(banjo) "was in the side of the south and u(SABATA) for the north."


so what i am asking is.... is VAN CLEEF the same character in SABATA and its sequel? or is it a different SABATA with the same name?


very confusing???????? ??? ??? ???



unless he pulled a RINGO and was fighting in the south but then since they were hurting went on to the north.

actually that was RINGO'S father who did that sorry(and sorry for those who have not seen PISTOL FOR RINGO u probably have no idea what i am talking about)

"never stick with a loser" RINGO'S father used to tell him..."its a matter of principle"


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on November 06, 2005, 07:40:53 PM
I got a different impression. During Sabata's first encounter with Carrincha, who was babbling on about fighting for the South at the Battle of Richmond...after he flipped him a coin..Carrincha says.."Ah..you understand". I took that to imply that Sabata also fought for the South.
As for Banjo's comment.. ...I took it to mean that Sabata had gone North..while Banjo had gone South..geographically speaking, either after their last encounter..or after the war.
That's how I understood it.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: HEX on November 06, 2005, 08:47:51 PM
I got a different impression. During Sabata's first encounter with Carrincha, who was babbling on about fighting for the South at the Battle of Richmond...after he flipped him a coin..Carrincha says.."Ah..you understand". I took that to imply that Sabata also fought for the South.
As for Banjo's comment.. ...I took it to mean that Sabata had gone North..while Banjo had gone South..geographically speaking, either after their last encounter..or after the war.
That's how I understood it.




good points ANGEL but that still doesnt explain the blue union coat he is wearing in the beggining of the film.

maybe it is just an ordinary coat but i think otherwise.
youre explanation of BANJO'S quote is a little out there, i dont know if a buy it. it just seems that he is commenting on the war rather than anything else.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Christopher on February 23, 2006, 10:42:46 AM
I've seen this set at Best Buy for $25 and I'm curious about them. I know nothing about the movies, and I'm not planning on spending that type of money right now anyhow, but I am curious to learn a little more about them. I would imagine we've got a decent number of threads on them.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Craig on February 23, 2006, 06:22:37 PM
I've seen this set at Best Buy for $25 and I'm curious about them. I know nothing about the movies, and I'm not planning on spending that type of money right now anyhow, but I am curious to learn a little more about them. I would imagine we've got a decent number of threads on them.

I got mine at best Best Buy for $25 (also on the same day I bought the Special Edition of GBU which had a price of $21 but only rang up for $9.99 SWEET!). I won a $50 gift certificate so I went on A spree!

Anyway.... The trilogy has nice packaging, but there aren't any good extras or anything like that. The sound and picture quality are awesome though. I've only watched Sabata so far, I haven't had a chance to watch the other two.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 18, 2007, 01:21:17 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yWkEOUT82o


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Banjo on January 18, 2007, 01:41:51 AM
Nine one buddy-should be in everyone's collection O0


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 19, 2007, 10:14:44 AM
Well I posted this to advertise the good job somebody did on this fan trailer more than any other reason.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Banjo on May 25, 2007, 04:31:51 AM
Leone Admirer's (not giving the movie a proper chance ;D)  review from his SW Virgins Guide:-

Sabata

A film that ultimatly doesn't deliver, Sabata is still a little fun if heavily flawed western, saved by Van Cleefs performance and likeable personality.
      As Sabata (Lee Van Cleef) enters town, three pillars of society have arranged for the bank, which for a brief time holds $100,000 of army money, to be robbed so that they can buy land. Sabata is able to find the money and foil their plans, but decides to stay in town, to find out what else the head villain, Stengel (Franco Ressel) has in store. He teams up with an ex army man Carrincha (Ignazio Spalla) and a mute called Alley Cat. In town he meets and ex friend called Banjo (Wiliam Berger)  whos calling mark is his Banjo, and Sabata has to decided whether Banjo this time round is either friend or fo.
      The films opening is arresting, a stranger rides into town, which is shown through the riders POV, as the gang prepare to rob the bank. Once we establish that its Sabata that has entered the town we are shown his powers and his gun before the bank is robbed.
       Sabata has many elements to make it a good, film, however these elements are either taken to the extreme or not used enough and this seriously hurts the film.
       The film doesn't take itself too seriously, and this is shown in the ludicrous actions and gadgets that the characters have. Everything to dart guns, banjo guns (!) long firing rifles, staff guns, guns in bags you name it, it'll have a gun in it. This over reliance on the gadgets ruins the film, which is a shame because some, the gun in the bag and the two barreled gun that Sabata carries are interesting, but are then used too much. For me, the banjo gun was a step too far, also I wanted the annoying banjo to die in that scene.
        The use of circus performers, whilst adding to a sureal atmosphere do not help the film either. Seeing the Alley Cat doing cart wheels and large jumps just made him look like a spare wheel, as if the part written in the script was quite small and the actor and director (Gianfranco Parolini) had decided to increase his part.
        The film is also worst hit by the pathetic villain, Stengel. It seems that who ever was dubbing Ressel couldn't settle on either an English or German accent, and his overt feminine looks, I have to admit when he first came on screen, with the way he had been costumed he really did look like a man in drag, does not make an very effective villain. 
         As said before, its Van Cleef as Sabata that saves the movie from being a complete waste of precious celluloid. The film tries to make a statement from the begining that in this film he is different. They substitue his usual pipe smoking for a short cigar aka Clint. He seems a much for friendly and generous type of man in this film and perhaps Cleef feels, and I think looks a bt uncomfortable, when he is gently laughing to the 'humerous' playing of Alley Cat. The thing that I don't like about the character of Sabata (and this isn't down to Cleef) is that he is played as some kind of Superhero. He can throw a coin for some distance and be accuarate, he has an endless array of guns and gadgets and he is seemingly invincible. This adds to the light hearted aspect of the film but for me I didn't like it.
        William Berger's character of Banjo was an annoying loner who played irritating tunes on his banjo, boy was I glad when Sabata took a shot at it and hit. The character, whilst irritating does give some drama and conflict to a story thats lacking because of its inept villain. Berger's smug grin got on my nerves and I couldn't wait for him to disapear off screen, only near the end are we glad to see banjo, but for a different reason.
        Direction was overall tight by Parolini, he seemed to handle most action scenes well, building up tension. Others suffered from being too short or not having enough build up. Editing was of general good quality, as was the cinematography which made excellent use of the Spanish and Italian locations. Music was another low point of the movie, Sabata's theme was OK, but the annoying banjo and the use of very sparse music at other points during the feature hurt the film and allowed it to drag in some places.
      This film can be bought as part of The Sabata Trilogy Collection R1 DVD set which contains the three Sabata films, Sabata, Adios Sabata and Return of Sabata. I believe that the A/V is the same between R1 and R2 but if your a Sabata fan it may be worth buying the R1 set, though R2 buyers be warned, it contains the RCE coding.
      The DVD I watched was the MGM R2 version of the film. The picture quality was great, sharp, good colors, it was a bit muted but I believe that was the style that the director and DP, had chosen, and there was little print damage. The Mono soundtrack was also very good and is offered with German, French and Spanish Mono.
       There are no extras on this DVD, an annoying anti-piracy advert (I am against piracy but you can't skip the bloody thing and its a really rubbish advert) and has poor menu design.
        The film was overall a disapointment for me, Cleef was good but the rest of the film was below average. People who like Sabata will most likely own the R1 or R2 DVD's and will encourage people to watch it. Personally I would only recomend this film to Cleef fans and newcomers who liked the humerous sides of the spaghetti's.



Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Jill on August 14, 2007, 08:15:49 AM
I think it's a very good SW, maked with sense and it's really fulll with cool charakters.

How could sy find Banjo annoying? He's so cute and he has good lines. Not to mention the small jingling pieces on his clothes. Absolutely cool. I was afrais for him...  ;)


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 14, 2007, 05:11:24 PM
 I thought all these spags were parodies  ???



 ::)


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: El_Chuncho on January 28, 2011, 04:03:54 PM
"SABATA" (1969) 6.5/10

One of the oddest films I've seen in a while, but an enjoyable one nonetheless.

What goes against it is a rambling and barely legible plot-line, and the usual problems with continuity and the fact that, technically, it's just not that good.
But what it has got in its favour is the director seems to have wanted to get all he could into a film and though at 1 and three quarter hours is probably a bit too long to warrant multiple viewings, it can be hilarious at times and well worth a look.

Some strange set pieces, the elaborate duel indoors is one in particular (the whole scene looks like something straight out of a Hammer film) and there's some fairly skilful and inventive camerawork along the way.
There's a bank heist carried out by bank robbers who are also talented acrobat artists; There's dynamite; A Gatling gun; Dynamite versus a Gatling gun; an Indiana Jones mine-cart sequence (although much truncated).

There's a knife throwing sidekick with a lucky medal; a presumably Native American deaf-mute who looks for all the world like the Boss Elf from Lord of the Rings using wire-work (yes wire work a la HongKong cinema!) to pounce from rooftop to rooftop….when not loitering about on said rooftops.
He's known as "The Alleycat" but appears from out of nowhere to the howl of a coyote.

I haven't the time to mention the James Bond gadgetry, but I will mention that there is, courtesy of Van Cleef, one of the most elaborate yet totally unnecessary traps laid in film history (it involves a picture frame and a mirror)

There's a character called Banjo whose character and musical ability I won't let out the bag, for those who have yet to see this. (One thing I'll mention is his strange unexplained and brief never to be repeated dream sequence, which is not explained and err….not repeated.)

The final line of the film could be great but it makes no sense at all, because they have been calling him "Sabata" all night long…although perhaps "Sabata" is a pseudonym.

hmmmm I'll check on that.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: dave jenkins on December 13, 2013, 07:18:44 AM
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Sabata-Blu-ray/81632/#Review


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: dave jenkins on June 27, 2014, 05:41:40 AM
The US Blu will be here soon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K6D1QOA/ref=pe_340890_120398940_em_ti


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: dave jenkins on July 05, 2014, 04:31:08 PM
And the PQ news is good: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-ray_reviews_62_/sabata_blu-ray.htm


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Moorman on January 27, 2017, 06:00:19 PM
I don't know WHAT to say?  Just saw this movie.  Like has been said numerous times, its Wild Wild West meets James Bond.  It had good cinematography, good set pieces and some cool weapons.  The plot was a mess. Couldn't keep up with the turns and turns of it. Banjo and his jingling boots got on my nerves.   Van Cleef's sidekick got on my nerves.  This could've been a good film.  Like i said, i loved the cinematography and the set pieces.  I think the movie just outsmarted itself with too much stuff going on. The funny part is it would work TODAY,  in today's movie environment, this would make a great Wild Wild West piece.  Its the context in which you watch this film that makes it work or not.  If you go into it with a Wild Wild West vibe,  heck, even a Lone Ranger ( the latest one) vibe, this would be a great piece...


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: cigar joe on January 28, 2017, 03:41:46 AM
I don't know WHAT to say?  Just saw this movie.  Like has been said numerous times, its Wild Wild West meets James Bond.  It had good cinematography, good set pieces and some cool weapons.  The plot was a mess. Couldn't keep up with the turns and turns of it. Banjo and his jingling boots got on my nerves.   Van Cleef's sidekick got on my nerves.  This could've been a good film.  Like i said, i loved the cinematography and the set pieces.  I think the movie just outsmarted itself with too much stuff going on. The funny part is it would work TODAY,  in today's movie environment, this would make a great Wild Wild West piece.  Its the context in which you watch this film that makes it work or not.  If you go into it with a Wild Wild West vibe,  heck, even a Lone Ranger ( the latest one) vibe, this would be a great piece...

Exactly, I went through the same thing the first time I saw City Heat with Eastwood and Reynolds, I thought it was supposed to be a serious film, it was a comedy, it's entertaining if you know that at the get go.


Title: Re: Sabata (1969)
Post by: Moorman on November 22, 2017, 03:27:44 PM
Exactly, I went through the same thing the first time I saw City Heat with Eastwood and Reynolds, I thought it was supposed to be a serious film, it was a comedy, it's entertaining if you know that at the get go.

I'm gonna purchase this and take a flyer on Sabata Returns.  I liked the movie. I know to watch in now in context.  Banjo and his boot will probably still get on my nerves, lol. Other than that, it was a pretty cool movie. I especially liked the scene where they had to take down the stronghold of the heavy...