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Title: Post your rating system here
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 03, 2014, 10:59:55 AM
Okay, there's been lotsa talk lately about each person's rating systems in various threads.

How about we each just post our rating system here and that way anytime anyone wants to know about someone's rating system they can find it in one place here (and we can have this one poisoned thread instead of poisoning all the other threads with discussions of ratings  ;) ) and everyone can know what your numbers mean as far as recommendations are concerned:
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I'll go first:

0–5.5/10 = Crap
6-6.5/10 = Mediocre
7/10 = Decent
7.5/10 = Good
8–9/10 = Very Good
9.5/10 = Great
10/10 = the Greatest of the Great


8/10 or above means it's a really good movie that I recommend you go and make an effort to see it (by renting or streaming or however you watch movies).
7-7.5/10 means that if it's on TCM, it's worth a look, but I wouldn't necessarily say that you need to make an effort to go and watch it.
6.5/10 or below means don't waste your time with it
(But of course, there is a scale, e.g., a 1/10 is a bigger time-waster and annoyance than a 6.5/10; and a 9/10 is a stronger "get out and see it" encouragement than an 8/10)

 :)
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: T.H. on November 03, 2014, 11:45:23 AM
Out of 1-10 scale

1-3: Has to be monumentally bad but I'd usually shut it off before it got to the point where I can rate it.

4-5: Has to lack a lot of redeeming qualities, the movie was poorly directed with a bad script, has bad visuals, a bland score, is too long, etc.

6-6.5: This is where I'll usually rank the movies that I don't like because there was something of value to create interest in the first place but it falls short as a whole.

7-7.5: Passing grade, a solid movie that I'll probably never watch again and most likely won't remember all that much from.

8-8.5: Something that will stick with me that I'll revisit in the future and own a copy of the movie.

9: Barely missing something, great movie.

9.5-10: One of my favorite movies, which usually means that I think it's one of the best 150-200 movies or so ever made, unless it's 80s horror then it's just a personal favorite.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: noodles_leone on November 03, 2014, 12:06:38 PM
D&D, you're a funny man.

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Mine is pretty forward. My ratings are dictated by those 3 landmarks:

0 = nothing to save (it's so rare it may be an hypothetical rank)
5 = barely watchable, but watchable
10 = masterpiece (top 20 or so)

The scale is linear although I rate a lot of "almost 10" between 9 and 9.5 so that "10" is only for true masterpieces. Apart from that, if a movie is under 5 I usually mean that it shouldn't exist, if it's above 5, it's a good thing for humanity, moviegoers or just me.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: stanton on November 03, 2014, 12:09:45 PM
0 bad
2 mediocre
4 ok to watch
6 good
10 masterthingywhatever

I still don't understand why using a 10 point system when anything beyond 6 is already bad. (not to mention Drinks anything beneath 9,9 is utter crap)

It is not important to know how bad a film is, bad is bad is boring.

In my system a 5er is half as good as a 10er, so it makes also mathematically some sense. (but mathematicians usually have no sense for any kind of art)

Oh, and some films are so good that I give them a 11 or even a 12/10. Mathematically tricky, but it has something to say, it makes mankind happy ...
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: T.H. on November 03, 2014, 01:04:20 PM
I don't know if I can speak for all 'mericans but I tend to think the 1-10 rating system reflects the US grading system. A 6/10 is a low D in college and usually an F in the 1st-12th grades. Also, in my opinion, most movies usually deserve some points for being professionally made, the reason why the 1-5 grades aren't used is because movies usually have some redeeming qualities, and things can be worse, like a typical amateur feature film. Those are the true 1-4's imo.

FWIW I actually like the letter grade scales a little better, the F-A+ scale. Not that this is an important issue or anything.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: Dust Devil on November 03, 2014, 01:06:48 PM
0 - 3 => The monumentally bad movies get this rating. Not only they are bad, as if that wasn't enough, but they usually do not posses any redeeming quality, or what's more important - charm.

3 - 5 => These are almost as bad, yet there's the underlying sense that something went (terribly) wrong in the background of whoever was responsible for the production (the author?), without the conscious - yet with the subconscious - perception of this peril all along. Hence the benefit of the doubt.

5 - 6 => These are actually the worst: these movies, the boys and girls that put a lot of effort in 'em, think they're worth far more than they actually are. What's more scary - a got chunk of the audience often does too. Mostly mainstream but also ''serious issue'' movies happen to fall in this category quite often. ''Cult classics'' are no strangers also.

6 - 6.5 => This is often the break point between movies I want and don't want to see ever again.

6.5 - 7.3 => These are not as good as they could have been, but are worth the effort for one way or another. If anything, to see why they aren't better. Often times they also happen to be entertaining, and also a certain honesty emanates from 'em. You love 'em, yet you know why others don't. This is the ''love category''.

7.3 - 7.8 => Purgatory. Could have been great if they were stronger with the force. If somebody put that extra 10 % percent of enthusiastic energy in 'em. If and could, two old pals. Yet there was none to be found to do that. It happens quite a lot with these that the intention was to have no further intention. Movies with quality relaxing and entertaining values end up here. Good as they are, you also know why they aren't better.


$$$$$ From here on the day becomes (somewhat) better after watching these movies, or even better after barely thinking about watching 'em.


7.8 - 8.5
=> Rollers. Since every story ever told was told a x,y,z-illion times, these movies tell one of these stories again (or more of them mashed together into one) but with a certain upgraded, original or fervorous touch. A twist of lemon, or allspice.

8.5 - 9.0 => Masterworks. Even if with flawed starting ideas (which is rare) they come in full swing and you know they're great, even if you don't have a preference for 'em they menage to have some captivating and extraordinary quality.

9.0 - 9.5 => Gods. The sort of movie you watch and get out of the house/cinema feeling like you witnessed something great (to your dismay, only to realize others around you didn't).

9.5+ => Have it all, and more, and better, and more forceful, and... and... and... and... Precious few, GBU and company.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: PowerRR on November 03, 2014, 04:52:48 PM
More or less Dust Devil's. I'm a bit harsher toward my 6's though. Also I feel that every point for me is a huge difference (an 8 is significantly stronger than a 7....a 9 significantly stronger than an 8).

8.5+ I really rave about. There's at very most 20 movies I'd give a 10.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: stanton on November 04, 2014, 02:32:04 AM
0 - 3 => The monumentally bad movies get this rating. Not only they are bad, as if that wasn't enough, but they usually do not posses any redeeming quality, or what's more important - charm.

3 - 5 => These are almost as bad, yet there's the underlying sense that something went (terribly) wrong in the background of whoever was responsible for the production (the author?), without the conscious - yet with the subconscious - perception of this peril all along. Hence the benefit of the doubt.


So you use 4 of 11 possible points to differentiate between monumental shit. And 3 more points for films which are pretty close to monumental shit. Leaves you with 5 for the good ones, but wait, a 6 sounds also like a waste of time.

I try to give points for the amount of ideas and the level of entertainment I find in films. A film with 2 points has already something to offer.
And by that I can use the whole scale for the films.

Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 04, 2014, 02:50:52 AM
stanton, I don't see why you need the ratings to mean percentiles.  am rating based on my own opinion of what is good/great/bad, etc.; I am not grouping films into percentiles.

And how can you group films into percentiles? Have you seen all movies ever made? In fact, none of us has even seen 1% of all movies ever made. Therefore, how can we group into percentiles? Or are you only using percentiles of the movies I have seen – which would make your  ratings system an ever-changing one. And what of the many movies that I've seen and turned off after a few minutes cuz they were so bad, but I wouldn't rate cuz I didn't finish them - are those included in the percentile groupings?

 I see nothing wrong with having much more movies having one rating than another. If you are bothered by the fact that some numbers are used more than others (i.e. 7 out of 11 numbers are bad, while 4 out of 11 numbers are good), well, it just so happens to be – even if I were using percentiles – that far more movies have been made that are bad than are good. (The same is true with just about every work of art - music, paintings, whatever. I am sure that most people dislike the vast majority of artworks they come across in any area of art. What % of songs that you come across do you like? For me, it's far less than 20%.
If you count the movies I shut off after a few minutes (and therefore never gave an official rating to), then yeah, much much more movies are bad than good IMO. Therefore, my rating system would work even if we were using percentiles (in fact, if we were using percentiles, I'd probably use even less numbers for 'Good' than I do now).

oh, and do you rate babes on a 1/10 scale? Do you consider a 6/10 to be a pretty girl?
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 04, 2014, 02:58:12 AM
maybe some of you have figured out what n_l couldn't: that I made this thread devoted to ratings discussions not cuz ratings discussions are so exciting, but for the opposite reason: to make sure those discussions of ratings will stop infecting every other thread on these boards ... better to have one annoying thread here, and get those annoying discussions away from every other thread  >:D


Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: noodles_leone on November 04, 2014, 04:07:26 AM
oh, and do you rate babes on a 1/10 scale? Do you consider a 6/10 to be a pretty girl?

I suspect this is the real reason why you started this thread.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: stanton on November 04, 2014, 05:17:35 AM
stanton, I don't see why you need the ratings to mean percentiles.  am rating based on my own opinion of what is good/great/bad, etc.; I am not grouping films into percentiles.

And how can you group films into percentiles? Have you seen all movies ever made? In fact, none of us has even seen 1% of all movies ever made. Therefore, how can we group into percentiles? Or are you only using percentiles of the movies I have seen – which would make your  ratings system an ever-changing one. And what of the many movies that I've seen and turned off after a few minutes cuz they were so bad, but I wouldn't rate cuz I didn't finish them - are those included in the percentile groupings?

 I see nothing wrong with having much more movies having one rating than another. If you are bothered by the fact that some numbers are used more than others (i.e. 7 out of 11 numbers are bad, while 4 out of 11 numbers are good), well, it just so happens to be – even if I were using percentiles – that far more movies have been made that are bad than are good. (The same is true with just about every work of art - music, paintings, whatever. I am sure that most people dislike the vast majority of artworks they come across in any area of art. What % of songs that you come across do you like? For me, it's far less than 20%.
If you count the movies I shut off after a few minutes (and therefore never gave an official rating to), then yeah, much much more movies are bad than good IMO. Therefore, my rating system would work even if we were using percentiles (in fact, if we were using percentiles, I'd probably use even less numbers for 'Good' than I do now).

oh, and do you rate babes on a 1/10 scale? Do you consider a 6/10 to be a pretty girl?


This is a somehow confuse post.  hmm ...

What do have percentiles to do with what I wrote?

Or how much films I have watched? (most likely much more than 1%)

Actually I don't see how anything of your post can be questioning my extremely reasonable (;) ) rating. (the smiley is for all those who take life too serious)

And of course would a 6/10 mean that a girl is pretty, but I never rated girls on any kind of scale.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 04, 2014, 02:30:13 PM
I suspect this is the real reason why you started this thread.

No, but it should have been. Would have been a lot more interesting than talking about rating movies (but not any less subjective)  ;)
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: Dust Devil on November 05, 2014, 12:06:48 PM
I usually don't rate them as meticulously if they go beneath what I think is 50 %, but hey, ever once and a while I do. That's why distinctions, laws and directives exist anyway, even if in the final interpretation they do not have to be followed thoroughly. Same thing goes for the higher grades.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: noodles_leone on November 07, 2014, 12:40:40 AM
Just found this on Groggy's blog. Please note that it's quite close from my rating system so that's 2 of us and also D&D is very wrong.

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What's your rating scale based on?

It's a ten-scale, and it goes roughly like this:


10/10 - Masterpiece
9/10 - Highest Recommendation
8/10 - Highly Recommended
7/10 - Recommended
6/10 - Use Your Own Discretion.
5/10 - Fair
4/10 - Mediocre
3/10 - Bad
2/10 - Awful
1/10 - Excrement
0/10 - Unwatchable Shit

http://nothingiswrittenfilm.blogspot.fr/p/about-this-site-and-groggy.html
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: dave jenkins on November 07, 2014, 07:30:07 AM
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1/10 - Excrement
0/10 - Unwatchable Shit
I don't understand. Some excrement is watchable, but some is not? I follow the dictum: If it's brown, flush it down (i.e. shit is, by definition, unsightly). Apparently, Groggy can be entertained by his toilet bowl whenever his TV is on the fritz.

This reminds me of my favorite Star Trek joke: Q: Why did Mr. Spock have his head in the toilet bowl? A: He was trying to read the Captain's log. [Ka-ching!]

No, no, wait, I know an even better one: Q: The Enterprise got an all-gay crew. What was their new 5-year mission? A: Circling Uranus looking for Klingons. [OMG!]

Thank you, thank you. Come back again, I'm here all week.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: noodles_leone on November 07, 2014, 08:39:55 AM
I don't understand. Some excrement is watchable, but some is not? I follow the dictum: If it's brown, flush it down (i.e. shit is, by definition, unsightly). Apparently, Groggy can be entertained by his toilet bowl whenever his TV is on the fritz.

This reminds me of my favorite Star Trek joke: Q: Why did Mr. Spock have his head in the toilet bowl? A: He was trying to read the Captain's log. [Ka-ching!]

No, no, wait, I know an even better one: Q: The Enterprise got an all-gay crew. What was their new 5-year mission? A: Circling Uranus looking for Klingons. [OMG!]

Thank you, thank you. Come back again, I'm here all week.

Now we need two new threads:
- Rate the last Star Trek joke you heard
- Post your Star Trek jokes rating system
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: PowerRR on November 07, 2014, 03:13:26 PM
Now we need two new threads:
- Rate the last Star Trek joke you heard
- Post your Star Trek jokes rating system
;D
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 08, 2014, 04:23:21 PM
Maybe we should have a new thread where everyone rates everyone else's rating system
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: Groggy on November 08, 2014, 04:39:10 PM
I don't understand. Some excrement is watchable, but some is not? I follow the dictum: If it's brown, flush it down (i.e. shit is, by definition, unsightly). Apparently, Groggy can be entertained by his toilet bowl whenever his TV is on the fritz.

Consider the difference between healthy stools and diarrhea.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: noodles_leone on November 09, 2014, 01:12:46 AM
Yep. The South Park episode about iPads has a fascinating scene about eating regular excrements vs eating excrements after Chinese food.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: Groggy on November 09, 2014, 07:58:30 AM
I more had Taco Bell in mind, but that works too.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: Spikeopath on May 10, 2017, 03:58:54 AM
Just found this on Groggy's blog. Please note that it's quite close from my rating system so that's 2 of us and also D&D is very wrong.
http://nothingiswrittenfilm.blogspot.fr/p/about-this-site-and-groggy.html

Yep, that's pretty much where I'm at.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: stanton on May 10, 2017, 04:36:50 AM
But mine is better ... ;)

Groggy has btw "mediocre" by 4, and not by 5.

But, and that's the big essential question of mankind since the days of Noah (god never bothered to answer that), where's the useful difference between "awful" and "unwatchable shit"?
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: noodles_leone on May 10, 2017, 05:07:12 AM
But, and that's the big essential question of mankind since the days of Noah (god never bothered to answer that), where's the useful difference between "awful" and "unwatchable shit"?

The second big essential question of mankind being how much unwatchable something needs to be to become really enjoyable? I know for a fact that at least The Room passed that line with honor.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: cigar joe on May 10, 2017, 07:18:18 AM
Here is mine for general films which is similar to Groggy's initial posting :

0-4/10 = usually crap
5/10 = mediocre but may be bad enough to be good
6/10 = watchable
7/10 = decent
7.5/10 = good
8–9/10 = very good
9.5/10 = great
10/10 = excellent

For Westerns I give an extra rating point for beautiful sweeping landscapes or off the beaten path landscapes, Victorian machinery i.e., steam engines. locomotives, riverboats, hard rock mining or placer mining equipment, etc., etc. I give an extra point for picaresque style, and an extra point for believability of the story, believability of the characters, and they got to look weathered by the landscape. They lose an extra point or two if they are trying to be PC.

For Film Noir/Neo Noir I give an extra point for visual stylistics, and an extra point for great locations or archetypical locations. Believability in storylines in noir is not as important as in Westerns people do incredibly stupid shit decision-wise in Noir. Where believability comes in Noir for me is the characters they got to look for the most part life's survivors or down and out small time losers. They lose a point if they star celebrities du jour.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: drinkanddestroy on May 10, 2017, 07:38:35 AM
My system is very similar to cigar joe's above (except that somehow he finds a way to give a 10/10 to 90% of noirs  ;)
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: greenbudgie on May 13, 2017, 01:42:30 AM
I don't rate any under 5 because if I turn a movie off I feel that I can't really rate having not stuck with it. I'm very trigger happy with the remote so anything not worthy of my time soon vanishes from my screen.

5/10 for me is a reasonable film.
6/10 is one that I am willing to watch again.
7/10 are ones that I would recommend without them being classics.
8/10 and 9/10 have been recognised by others and depends on the entertainment that I have got from them as to which is 8 or 9.
10/10 Absolutely essential viewing.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on May 13, 2017, 10:25:54 AM
I don't really rate movies, it seems a bit arbitrary to me. I either like a film or not. It doesn't really make sense to me to rate, let's say, a Russian silent movie, a Doris Day/Rock Hudson comedy and the latest CGI schlock fest on the same scale. Looking through the answers here, everybody interprets the rating system differently too. Some people consider a 5 crap, some think it means mediocre to OK. So frankly to me ratings make no sense.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: Jill on June 14, 2017, 06:21:16 AM
1/10 - M. Night Shwhatshisname level
2/10 - Matrix Revolutions level
3/10 - why was this even made?
4/10 - I should have bought a pizza instead of a movie ticket
5/10 - had a few moments but it was either overall mediocre or a rushed, bad adaptation
6/10 - mostly mediocre. Might be ok with enough popcorn. It was probably 3D and didn't need to be.
7/10 - pretty good, or would have been meh but one actor saved it
8/10 - a good, solid movie, maybe not a masterpiece but definitely reatch-worthy
9/10 - almost perfect - usually only pulled down by a not-that-strong ending or one out-of-place actor.
10/10 - hell fucking yeah GO WATCH IT NOW
11/10 - god tier, the kind of masterpiece even the greatest directors only make once or twice in a lifetime


Examples:

1/10 - The live-action Last Airbender movie that doesn't exist
2/10 - well, as I said, Matrix Revolutions
3/10 - Blow-up. I will never forgive my film professor for making us watch this overrated crap.
4/10 - The Mockingjay (both parts). I almost fell asleep. The Hobbit trilogy falls around here too. Stop pulling out books into multiple, unnecessary movies!
5/10 - Lynch's Dune. It certainly had promise (great costumes, pretty good cast), but it was butchered by cutting out the entire middle part. Kind of a guilty pleasure. It's so hammy.
6/10 - average Marvel movie. I go in, probably enjoy it, but it doesn't leave much of an impression.
7/10 - Spellbound for the "pretty good", 1998 Les Mis for the "would have been meh if Geoffrey Rush didn't single-handedly drag it into a higher rating"
8/10 - Spartacus (the original one) - certainly not without flaws but overall very good and it aged well unlike most peplums
9/10 - The Lion King (if only the funny sidekicks didn't take over the middle), Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (the known problems with there not being a definitive cut that would include everything)
10/10 - The Deer Hunter, the first 2 Dollars movies, The Life of Brian, The Empire Strikes Back, The Great Silence, The Prince of Egypt, Pulp Fiction
11/10 - The Seven Samurai, OUATITW, GBU, The Godfather I-II, Seppuku, La passion de Jeanne d'Arc
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: cigar joe on November 22, 2017, 06:35:38 AM
Reviving this topic also to coincide with a debate that may arise from my ratings of Meek's Cutoff, The Homesman, and the remake of The Magnificent Seven.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 22, 2017, 08:38:45 AM
CJ, you have to make a whole new thread for your noir ratings. By your standards, any noir less than 10/10 is shit. Hell, even many 10/10’s are shit  ;)
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on November 22, 2017, 09:05:25 AM
CJ, I saw the discussions about Meek's Cutoff, The Homesman and the new Magnificent Seven which just reinforces my believe that a ratings system is completely arbitrary. I really like Jill's interpretation of it though.
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: cigar joe on November 22, 2017, 11:52:31 AM
CJ, I saw the discussions about Meek's Cutoff, The Homesman and the new Magnificent Seven which just reinforces my believe that a ratings system is completely arbitrary. I really like Jill's interpretation of it though.


Yes it's interesting to see how others grade things.

Sure a lot has to do with your personal preferences and tastes, ratings are a good barometer for others, if you've written a lot of reviews and people read them, they will get a feel for how you look at a film, and if they find themselves agreeing with you a lot, then that rating will give them a good idea whether or not they will go and seek it out on Youtube or rent it, or if that option is not available actually purchase a film, knowing that you won't get burned.

It's more helpful I guess to a readership, but wouldn't matter much to the casual reader.

Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: cigar joe on November 22, 2017, 11:55:47 AM
CJ, you have to make a whole new thread for your noir ratings. By your standards, any noir less than 10/10 is shit. Hell, even many 10/10’s are shit  ;)

You exaggerate muchly. I don't even bother with anything below a 5/10.  8)
Title: Re: Post your rating system here
Post by: Moorman on November 22, 2017, 02:45:36 PM
I came up with my own system for movies in my inventory. I might just start using it here.  My system is as follows:

I rate a movie 1-10.  I have five categories.  In each category, a movie can get either 0 points, .5 point (half point),1 point or 2 points, a example:

The Good, The Bad, The Ugly

Cinematography- 2 points

Musical Score- 2 points

Acting- 2 points

Directing- 1.5 point

Plot- 1 point

Total- 8.5 points