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Title: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: wind demon on March 05, 2015, 07:11:55 PM
What do you call it?
I used to be for Dollars because it's more accurate since only the first has Clint starring while the others they have other stars but lately i do think Man with No Name just sounds more cinematic even though it's less accurate, the image of it and all.


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: noodles_leone on March 06, 2015, 12:52:55 AM
MWNN sounds cooler but Dollar is easier to say. Also, "dollar trilogy" is more consistent with Leone's filmography and themes.


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: stanton on March 06, 2015, 02:07:20 AM
In Germany it was always and only the Dollar Trilogy.


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: Cusser on March 06, 2015, 06:21:10 AM
I never call it a trilogy as separate films just with similarities with Eastwood's character.

If a real trilogy (like Godfather films, or books Mutiny on the Bounty/Men Against the Sea/Pitcairn's Island), Blondie would've had so much $$$ from GBU that he wouldn't have needed to become a bounty killer later in FDM, or later basically a drifter in Fistful.  Remember the times: GBU in Civil War, FDM approximate date is in newspaper, and Fistful dates on the cemetery markers.


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: noodles_leone on March 06, 2015, 08:05:53 AM
They're still more linked (thematically, aesthetically, story-wise and crew-wise) than, say, the Decalogue, aren't they?
I see the three latest Leone film as another trilogy. Nothing tie them together in the scripts but it's still the Once Upon a Time trilogy.


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: wind demon on March 06, 2015, 01:42:44 PM
I agree i say Dollars cause its easier to say even though MWNN sounds cooler so i guess both have their place .


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: stanton on March 06, 2015, 01:47:37 PM
But I don't view the Once upon a Time films as a trilogy. And the Godfather films are a "duology" + an unnecessary third film (even if this one is not bad)


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: noodles_leone on March 06, 2015, 02:19:17 PM
But I don't view the Once upon a Time films as a trilogy.

Leone did. So it's Sergio and I against you.


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: stanton on March 07, 2015, 12:22:33 PM
Leone did. So it's Sergio and I against you.

Ok, that's 3:2 for me.


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: drinkanddestroy on March 08, 2015, 06:00:25 AM
Cusser,
FOD takes place more than a decade after GBU ends. He could have not worked for ten years, spent the money on booze and broads and gambling, and now he is broke again. Michael Jackson made like a half-billion dollars and was broke when he died. You don't think a wild man in the Wild West could go thru a hundred grand in more than ten years?
Look, it's obviously a trilogy of some sort. Otherwise, how do you explain Blondie at the end of GBU acquiring the costume for FOD/FAFDM?
Call it a loose trilogy, or something similar, but I don't think it's wrong to use the word trilogy. Or use the word trinity or trifecta or whatever. You simply can't say that it is wrong to imply any connection between the three movies.


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: stanton on March 08, 2015, 06:30:55 AM
The trilogy isn't placed in the real world, but in a fantasy western world (like nearly every other western). Eastwood's character is for me not the same guy in the 3 films, but still the same type, in every film a slight variation of the one before.


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: noodles_leone on March 08, 2015, 06:52:41 AM
We already had this debate 10 times but Leone said it's the exact same character in 3 different timelines/universes.
I mean, if he was the same guy in the same timeline, wouldn't he freak out a little the 3rd time he meets Mario Brega, who dies in every movie?


Title: Re: Dollars trilogy vs Man with no Name trilogy
Post by: Novecento on March 08, 2015, 08:38:22 PM
In Germany it was always and only the Dollar Trilogy.

Funny how in English it was pluralized to "Dollars". The original Italian is singular as well (as is the French for that matter).