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Title: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: titoli on December 16, 2015, 10:21:43 PM
From the Stanley Kauffmann's review: "Like Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo can be compared with a good western. (There is a rumor that Hollywood is to remake it as such.)" (September 17, 1962)

 


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: stanton on December 17, 2015, 03:10:06 AM
After the success of Mag 7 not a keen idea.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: Novecento on December 17, 2015, 08:11:17 AM
From the Stanley Kauffmann's review: "Like Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo can be compared with a good western. (There is a rumor that Hollywood is to remake it as such.)" (September 17, 1962)

So how did Cinecittą get there first?

I wonder if Kurosawa was aware of these rumors and perhaps half-expecting something like A Fistful of Dollars to appear?


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: titoli on December 17, 2015, 10:41:27 AM
So how did Cinecittą get there first?

Cinecittą didn't get there first: the producers never thought about buying rights before the lawsuit. The real question  is in the title of the topic.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: Novecento on December 17, 2015, 11:03:33 AM
Well technically Cinecittą did get there first just via Leone  - i.e. before anyone in Hollywood made anything.

The question then remains why nothing happened in Hollywood legitimately or, to take a leaf from Leone, somewhat illegitimately.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: stanton on December 17, 2015, 12:14:29 PM
Hollywood was busy with remaking Rashomon at that time, which I assume was a flop and a failure then.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: titoli on December 17, 2015, 03:04:40 PM
So you've discovered that it was Ronald Lubin who wanted to buy the rights to Yojimbo?


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: Novecento on December 17, 2015, 05:57:22 PM
So you've discovered that it was Ronald Lubin who wanted to buy the rights to Yojimbo?

Sounds like you just did  ;D

This guy:
http://variety.com/2004/scene/people-news/a-ronald-lubin-1117906497/

What's your source? Did you find it out in the Kauffmann book?


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: titoli on December 18, 2015, 02:44:14 AM
Sounds like you just did  ;D

This guy:
http://variety.com/2004/scene/people-news/a-ronald-lubin-1117906497/

What's your source? Did you find it out in the Kauffmann book?

No, it's only that our german friend identified Hollywood with Lubin. So it's him who must reveal his source.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: stanton on December 18, 2015, 06:06:15 AM
I did not discover anything. Only said that Hollywood was busy with the Outrage in 1964.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: Novecento on December 18, 2015, 09:33:49 AM
I've also seen differing accounts regarding whether it was Ritt or Lubin who first came up with the idea to remake Rashomon.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: Novecento on December 19, 2015, 06:42:12 AM
From the Stanley Kauffmann's review: "Like Kurosawa's The Seven Samurai and The Hidden Fortress, Yojimbo can be compared with a good western. (There is a rumor that Hollywood is to remake it as such.)" (September 17, 1962)

Walter Hill did make "Last Man Standing" but that was over 30 years later.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: titoli on December 19, 2015, 10:24:54 AM
Walter Hill did make "Last Man Standing" but that was over 30 years later.

And it wasn't a western. And it was based on Red Harvest. Like Yojimbo. And I have reviewed it here.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: Novecento on December 19, 2015, 03:54:19 PM
If you have Galbraith's book on Kurosawa and Mifune, you can take a look at a short mention there about New Line purchasing the rights to Yojimbo legitimately which ultimately culminated in Last Man Standing.

Good point about it not being a Western though - haven't seen it myself, but have just seen it mentioned as a remake. Regardless, even if it were a Western it would still be unrelated to whatever Kauffmann is referencing due to it being so much later.


Title: Re: Hollywood, what happened?
Post by: drinkanddestroy on December 19, 2015, 04:00:55 PM
LAST MAN STANDING can be considered a modern-day Western or something. Takes place in a dusty Texas town during Prohibition, as I recall; with a main street that looks like it could be a Western set.