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Films of Sergio Leone => Once Upon A Time In America => Topic started by: grandpa_chum on September 13, 2004, 02:58:29 PM



Title: Mario Brega?
Post by: grandpa_chum on September 13, 2004, 02:58:29 PM
mario brega is credited as playing mandy on the final credits... did i completely miss him or was he only part of the extensive film that was cut even from the original cut... i know leone had an unrealistic 10 hours of film he dreamed of putting in the movie.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: cigar joe on September 13, 2004, 04:05:50 PM
He's the big hood of the three at the beginning where they shoot up the bed , beating up Fat Moe & he's also in the Chinese Theater searching for DeNiro, looks different without a beard, huh?


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: grandpa_chum on September 13, 2004, 09:45:42 PM
wow! yeah... definitly... in fact i'll have to take a closer look before i even believe you... never for a second recognized him.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: grandpa_chum on September 14, 2004, 02:28:15 PM
i apoligize... that is him... amazing how well he cleans up... lost some weight too...


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: Bill Carson on September 17, 2004, 11:10:52 AM
 8) supercool! Thanks guys, I was wondering about this too. Yep, he looks very different


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: THE BIG MAN on October 02, 2004, 03:58:33 PM
He's the big hood of the three at the beginning where they shoot up the bed , beating up Fat Moe & he's also in the Chinese Theater searching for DeNiro, looks different without a beard, huh?
  Sorry - I think you may be wrong.  The big hood is an actor called Frank Gio - listed in the credits as Beefy.  I saw him recently in Analyze That - played De Niro gangster rival Lou The Wrench.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: noodles_leone on January 02, 2005, 10:18:17 AM
Excuse me, i know it as ever been dicussed, but i who is mario bregga in that film??? he is credited, and i don''t think he is one of the killers of the begining...

I read (in "conversation with sergio leone") that he was actually a butcher in Rome, "a little bit gangster", and a friend of leone (according to the Master himself).


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: Cusser on January 02, 2005, 03:09:11 PM
Mario plays Mandy, one of the killers looking for Noodles in the opium den, at the beginning of the film, after the girl is killed.  He is thinner than in the westerns, has no beard.  Someone had captured and posted a photo from this, maybe on the old board.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: noodles_leone on March 02, 2005, 11:35:25 AM
excuse me, i didn't notice that someone has answered  ::)
so, which killer is he? the "boss"?


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: Mr.Cho-Cho on March 21, 2005, 06:29:20 PM
Ah cool that's very interesting I saw this topic arise on imdb and someone said he was the guy that child noodles falls on, when spying on deborah. The guy taking a wee.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: HEX on October 05, 2005, 07:51:10 AM
 hey guys i was wondering where is mario brega in this film?

i know he is one of the three goons in the begining but which one?

is he the one that revolves the barrel of his gun around the womans nipple?


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: Poggle on October 05, 2005, 01:35:49 PM
He's the one who's leaning against a table during the Moe beating scene. If I'm not mistaken he has a cigar, but I'm not too sure.

Those three men(Ahh, three, the perfect number!) are the same guys sitting in the back of the restaurant during the first scene with Joe Pesci.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: HEX on October 05, 2005, 04:23:04 PM
thanks POGGLE  but i dont think that is correct...
but i have no say so anyway. i am as clueless as u are.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: redyred on October 05, 2005, 06:52:43 PM
He is the one who looks a bit like Mario Brega.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: Poggle on October 05, 2005, 08:30:16 PM
Look at the way he looks in The Great Silence and then the guy in OUATIA. Same guy.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: Skull and Bones on October 22, 2005, 07:08:50 AM
He's the one who's leaning against a table during the Moe beating scene. If I'm not mistaken he has a cigar, but I'm not too sure.

Those three men(Ahh, three, the perfect number!) are the same guys sitting in the back of the restaurant during the first scene with Joe Pesci.

Who did those 3 men work for was it Joe Pesci?


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: Groggy on October 22, 2005, 03:15:00 PM
I could be wrong, but wasn't he the "Where is he?  Where's he hiding?" guy?


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: HEX on October 23, 2005, 01:08:33 AM
someone put up a picture. ;D


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: The Peacemaker on October 23, 2005, 11:49:05 AM
He kinda looks like the guy who tells the cock insurance joke before the jewel heist scene. Is that him? Or someone else?


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: HEX on October 23, 2005, 12:02:18 PM
thats another actor


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: Groggy on October 23, 2005, 03:22:45 PM
He kinda looks like the guy who tells the cock insurance joke before the jewel heist scene. Is that him? Or someone else?

That would be Burt Young, who gets shot two scenes later.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: The Peacemaker on October 23, 2005, 04:10:45 PM
Oh yeh! Forgot that was Burt Young. Nevermind.  ::)


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: noodles_leone on July 31, 2007, 06:21:51 AM
Oh yeh! Forgot that was Burt Young. Nevermind.  ::)

Well, is the mistery solved? that's a shame for this board that we cannot pintpoint one of the most important Leone collaborator...


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: Groggy on July 31, 2007, 06:36:14 AM
I think we decided he was the cigar-smoking guy in the background of the Fat Moe beating scene, and that he reappeared in the Opium Den sequence.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: noodles_leone on July 31, 2007, 06:39:49 AM
I think we decided he was the cigar-smoking guy in the background of the Fat Moe beating scene, and that he reappeared in the Opium Den sequence.

yes i think too... but is somebody sure? (it will deserve an entry in the sergio leone encyclopedia as soon as we'll be sure...)


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: mal247 on July 31, 2007, 07:53:04 AM
I think we decided he was the cigar-smoking guy in the background of the Fat Moe beating scene, and that he reappeared in the Opium Den sequence.

Definitely correct.  A few photos below - in 1984 Mario was 60 years old and had lost some weight - that guy Beefy must have been big - usually it was Mario (formerly a butcher) who dwarfed everyone else.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/01-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/03-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/06-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/09-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/11-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/12-1.jpg)
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/13-1.jpg)(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa192/msb247/mario/15-1.jpg)


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: noodles_leone on July 31, 2007, 08:01:39 AM
SO i guess their is no mystery anymore... thanks!


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: tucumcari bound on July 31, 2007, 08:57:48 AM
Wow, I didn't even realize he was in this. :o


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: cigar joe on July 31, 2007, 09:12:11 PM
Yes thanks immensely, we sort of thought he was that guy.


Title: Re: Mario Brega?
Post by: mal247 on August 01, 2007, 05:44:36 AM
This topic has reminded me of some thoughts I had on OUATIA's sound and dialogue.

According to Frayling, some 65% of OUATIA has direct sound and De Niro was keen on the actors being American and having the right accents.  I am not sure if Mario could speak various languages but I wonder if this may partly explain the differences in the dialogue in the book and the film.  In the book Mendy (Mandy) seems to be the boss over his two colleagues Trigger and Muscles (Beefy) and has quite a bit of dialogue.  In the film Beefy has most if not all of the dialogue.

I recently watched 1900 (now that is a long film) followed by Leone's early westerns and it seemed obvious that the actors were speaking their lines in whatever language they were most comfortable with - the French actor was speaking French, the Italians were speaking Italian and the English and Americans English.  Since the films were going to be released worldwide, there were always going to be synchronising problems with dubbing so it didn't really matter.

I may be completely wrong but I thought the general opinion was that French and Italian audiences were more used to dubbing and found it acceptable. The American and English audiences were less used to it and found out of sync dialogue irritating.

There seems to be a conscious decision with OUATIA to accept this view and I am not aware of any out of sync dialogue in the English version.  Also it is possible that some of the unpublished footage is not as raw as we may think.