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Title: Tension (1949)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on March 26, 2017, 01:32:32 AM
TCM will be showing a film noir every Sunday at 10 a.m. ET, hosted by Eddie Muller

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1822.msg188394#msg188394

TENSION (1949) - a pretty decent film - is first up this week
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0041954/


I have seen this twice, a while ago. I think I gave it around a 7.5/10


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: dave jenkins on March 26, 2017, 09:43:00 AM
I'd go an 8, considering the presence of goddess Cyd Charisse.


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on March 26, 2017, 04:29:09 PM
Tension isn't in my top 10 favorite Noirs, but it's a movie I like quite a lot.

One could argue if this movie is true Noir as it does not fit the "formula" perfectly, and while it has some Noir components it is certainly missing a few others. It is not a whodunnit, more a howdunnit and whydunnit, and relies much more on a psychological character study than most films of that genre.
The typical Noir photography is largely missing, there is barely any Chiaroscuro lighting, canted angles, wet pavements...However, typical Noir themes such as passion, greed, lust and betrayal are all there. And a great and trampy femme fatale.

The movie has a voice-over by Barry Sullivan, who plays the cop out to find the murderer. He supplies a very interesting intro in which he breaks the fourth wall and addresses the audience directly. He is constantly playing with a rubber band which, as he explains, can be stretched until it reaches its breaking point, just like people can be worked on until they finally break under the tension. It's a bit of an obvious metaphor, but it works quite well for this type of movie.

Audrey Totter is great as one of the nastiest and most vicious bad girls ever. For a short time she can be all sweetness, pouting and teasing, but her true colors show fast when things don't go her way. She's bad news all the way. Every time she appears on the screen a special slutty-dame-music comes on. That alone is worth watching the movie for.
Totter has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, but I agree that she has serious competition in Cyd Charisse, one of Hollywood's greatest beauties. Unfortunately Charisse never got to play a femme fatale.

In an interesting twist to the usual set-up, it's not the femme fatale who entraps others, it's the player who gets played and doesn't catch on until it is too late. Sullivan's cop works on Totter in a way that can only be called entrapment. He wines and dines her, makes her believe he's crazy about her... his methods are more than dubious but then again he's up against one of the baddest bad girls of Noir.

Extremely watchable Noir.


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on March 27, 2017, 07:46:27 PM
Tension isn't in my top 10 favorite Noirs, but it's a movie I like quite a lot.

One could argue if this movie is true Noir as it does not fit the "formula" perfectly, and while it has some Noir components it is certainly missing a few others. It is not a whodunnit, more a howdunnit and whydunnit, and relies much more on a psychological character study than most films of that genre.
The typical Noir photography is largely missing, there is barely any Chiaroscuro lighting, canted angles, wet pavements...However, typical Noir themes such as passion, greed, lust and betrayal are all there. And a great and trampy femme fatale.

The movie has a voice-over by Barry Sullivan, who plays the cop out to find the murderer. He supplies a very interesting intro in which he breaks the fourth wall and addresses the audience directly. He is constantly playing with a rubber band which, as he explains, can be stretched until it reaches its breaking point, just like people can be worked on until they finally break under the tension. It's a bit of an obvious metaphor, but it works quite well for this type of movie.

Audrey Totter is great as one of the nastiest and most vicious bad girls ever. For a short time she can be all sweetness, pouting and teasing, but her true colors show fast when things don't go her way. She's bad news all the way. Every time she appears on the screen a special slutty-dame-music comes on. That alone is worth watching the movie for.
Totter has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, but I agree that she has serious competition in Cyd Charisse, one of Hollywood's greatest beauties. Unfortunately Charisse never got to play a femme fatale.

In an interesting twist to the usual set-up, it's not the femme fatale who entraps others, it's the player who gets played and doesn't catch on until it is too late. Sullivan's cop works on Totter in a way that can only be called entrapment. He wines and dines her, makes her believe he's crazy about her... his methods are more than dubious but then again he's up against one of the baddest bad girls of Noir.

Extremely watchable Noir.

Audrey Totter was an ugly girl.

Charisse as a femme fatale would be like Henry Fonda as a cold-blooded killer in OUATITW  ;)


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on March 27, 2017, 09:02:23 PM
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Audrey Totter was an ugly girl.

Ta, ta, ta. It's true that Totter wasn't the most beautiful actress, BUT she'll always be one of the best Noir bad girls. She even managed to out-floozy Lana Turner in The Postman, and that's no mean feat. Cyd Charisse is utterly gorgeous though. But I thought guys like bad girls...  ;)


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on March 27, 2017, 09:26:41 PM
Ta, ta, ta. It's true that Totter wasn't the most beautiful actress, BUT she'll always be one of the best Noir bad girls. She even managed to out-floozy Lana Turner in The Postman, and that's no mean feat. Cyd Charisse is utterly gorgeous though. But I thought guys like bad girls...  ;)

But guys do not like ugly girls!

Lana Turner in Postman was far, far from the most evil femme fatale. She was relatively saintly compared to, e.g., Stanwyck in Double Indemnity

BTW, one the subject of looks, Stanwyck is far uglier than Totter. Totter I guess I could do if I had ten drinks and was knocked on the head. Stanwyck I wouldn't do if she was the last female left on earth. And she was no great actress, either. IMO she is the one bad thing about Double Indemnity, one of my all-time favorite movies.

And on the subject of Lana Turner in TPART, she sort of screwed up that movie. It is a very good movie, and she is beautiful, but she gives a bad performance: You don't feel for one second that she actually likes Garfield. And her character is supposed to really like Garfield - unlike, say, Stanwyck in DI, Turner's character in Postman really is in love with Garfield. But there is no chemistry there.

I read somewhere that when Lana Turner heard that John Garfield was going to be cast opposite her in TPART, she exclaimed something like, "Couldn't they get someone who is good-looking?" Maybe she had something against Garfield, maybe she is a poor actress, I don't know, but I absolutely felt that the Garfield character was head over heels for Turner's, but I never for a moment felt that Turner's felt anything for Garfield's. (Maybe that's just cuz I always assume that men are crazy about women, but women don't give a damn about us ;) ) And that hurts TPART. Also the scene where she is supposed to lose her temper and decides she is going to confess ... she does that so badly.

Lana Turner was not a terrible actress; she was Oscar-nominated for Best Actress in Peyton Place, and she was pretty good in that movie. But she was not good in TPART.


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on March 27, 2017, 10:10:07 PM
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Totter I guess I could do if I had ten drinks and was knocked on the head. Stanwyck I wouldn't do if she was the last female left on earth.

Dude, I think we're just not on the same page. I think Totter had all the goods, and so did Stanwyck. In fact Stanwyck is one of my all-time favorites. She was not classically beautiful, but she was damn sexy, even when she was older. As opposed to Crawford and Davis. But then I'm not sure where your priorities lie. :) Can't argue about taste. I think Stanwyck was one hell of an actress, as opposed to Lana. Yes, Lana won an Oscar, but that doesn't mean anything. And I like Lana.

I don't agree with Lana either about Garfield. Nothing wrong with him as far as I can tell.  :D But my tastes seem to differ from other women too.


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: XhcnoirX on March 28, 2017, 06:46:26 AM
Unfortunately Charisse never got to play a femme fatale.

Not quite the same but Cyd Charisse plays a femme fatale in the final dance sequence of 'The Band Wagon'... And she is HOT in that number.

I should rewatch 'Tension', I enjoyed it quite a bit the last time I saw it (rated it 8/10 on IMDb), but tbh I hardly remember Charisse's part in the movie, mostly Audrey Totter ('Driffft') and Richard Basehart.
Totter was perfect for film noir, and to me she's quite beautiful too (and simply irresistible in 'Lady In The Lake')...


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on March 28, 2017, 08:58:38 AM
Dude, I think we're just not on the same page. I think Totter had all the goods, and so did Stanwyck. In fact Stanwyck is one of my all-time favorites. She was not classically beautiful, but she was damn sexy, even when she was older. As opposed to Crawford and Davis. But then I'm not sure where your priorities lie. :) Can't argue about taste. I think Stanwyck was one hell of an actress, as opposed to Lana. Yes, Lana won an Oscar, but that doesn't mean anything. And I like Lana.

I don't agree with Lana either about Garfield. Nothing wrong with him as far as I can tell.  :D But my tastes seem to differ from other women too.

Turner did not win an Oscar. She was nominated (once, for PEYTON PLACE).


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on March 28, 2017, 05:44:42 PM
Oops, d & d, my mistake.


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on May 28, 2017, 02:32:37 AM
Eddie Muller's introductory and closing comments to a recent showing of this movie https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBROz7jpUAM


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: Moorman on November 18, 2017, 01:57:46 PM
I don't know why this movie isn't more popular than it is. ( I feel the same thing about Scarlet Street). Its also hard to find. Amazon has it bookmarked with another movie as a double feature.  Again, why this movie is not popular is beyond me. It reminds me of Double Indemnity.  It has fantastic cinematography. A fantastic plot. Fantastic directing. I'm gonna order this very soon. I rate this a SOLID 8 out of 10...


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on November 18, 2017, 03:56:54 PM
I don't know why this movie isn't more popular than it is. ( I feel the same thing about Scarlet Street). Its also hard to find. Amazon has it bookmarked with another movie as a double feature).  Again, why this movie is not popular is beyond me. It reminds me of Double Indemnity.  It has fantastic cinematography. A fantastic plot. Fantastic directing. I'm gonna order this very soon. I rate this a SOLID 8 out of 10...

Itís a double feature because it is part of a 10-film noir boxset. 5 discs, 2 films on each disc. You can buy the discs individually, hence the double feature. Plenty of good noirs are in these boxsets, and therefore as double features. Donít take it as a denigration  ;)

p.s. I think SCARLET STREET is pretty highly regarded. It fell into the public domain and therefore for a while was available on some very poor DVDs, but it has now had a beautiful Blu-ray release.

p.p.s. IMO, THE WOMAN IN THE WINDOW is better than SCARLET STREET. And TWITW has still not been released on Blu-ray  >:(


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: Moorman on November 18, 2017, 04:09:58 PM
Itís a double feature because it is part of a 10-film noir boxset. 5 discs, 2 films on each disc. You can buy the discs individually, hence the double feature. Plenty of good noirs are in these boxsets, and therefore as double features. Donít take it as a denigration  ;)

p.s. I think SCARLET STREET is pretty highly regarded. It fell into the public domain and therefore for a while was available on some very poor DVDs, but it has now had a beautiful Blu-ray release.

p.p.s. IMO, THE WOMAN IN THE WINDOW is better than SCARLET STREET. And TWITW has still not been released on Blu-ray  >:(

I saw it bookmarked with one other film. I did't know it was part of a box set, unless we are talking about the same thing.  I did read where the same 3 main characters were in The Woman in The Window.  I have it on my to get list also. If its better than Scarlet Street like you said, its gonna be a great movie.


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: Jessica Rabbit on November 18, 2017, 04:34:36 PM
Moorman, this is the boxset. It's really worth it. Seems to be discontinued though now which is a shame.

https://www.amazon.com/Classic-Collection-Violence-Mystery-Illegal/dp/B000PKG7DE/ref=sr_1_5?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1511047899&sr=1-5&keywords=Film+Noir+Classic+Collection%3A+Volume (https://www.amazon.com/Classic-Collection-Violence-Mystery-Illegal/dp/B000PKG7DE/ref=sr_1_5?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1511047899&sr=1-5&keywords=Film+Noir+Classic+Collection%3A+Volume)


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: Moorman on November 18, 2017, 04:38:41 PM
Moorman, this is the boxset. It's really worth it. Seems to be discontinued though now which is a shame.

https://www.amazon.com/Classic-Collection-Violence-Mystery-Illegal/dp/B000PKG7DE/ref=sr_1_5?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1511047899&sr=1-5&keywords=Film+Noir+Classic+Collection%3A+Volume (https://www.amazon.com/Classic-Collection-Violence-Mystery-Illegal/dp/B000PKG7DE/ref=sr_1_5?s=movies-tv&ie=UTF8&qid=1511047899&sr=1-5&keywords=Film+Noir+Classic+Collection%3A+Volume)

Thanks for the link to that. I've seen double features on Amazon, but didn't know about the boxsets...


Title: Re: Tension (1949)
Post by: cigar joe on November 18, 2017, 05:16:02 PM
p.p.s. IMO, THE WOMAN IN THE WINDOW is better than SCARLET STREET. And TWITW has still not been released on Blu-ray  >:(

drinkanddestroy doesn't know shit from shinola, he probably doesn't even know shinola. Scarlet Street is superior.