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Title: Fixing GBU Without Permission/Authorisation
Post by: LITTLE BIG MAN on July 15, 2019, 05:25:24 PM
https://nationalpost.com/entertainment/movies/how-two-vancouver-filmmakers-are-fixing-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly-without-permission-or-authorization
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Post by: drinkanddestroy on July 15, 2019, 06:48:58 PM
Great stuff!

 Anyone here involved in this?  ;)
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Post by: dave jenkins on July 16, 2019, 07:08:16 AM
Wow, absolutely fabulous. Fantastic news. And man, the guy writing the article did a great job, too!
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Post by: dave jenkins on July 16, 2019, 12:56:44 PM
Gentlemen, will you share your work with your fellow board members? I would be happy to come to you if that would help make it possible. In fact, I just checked with my airline, and they've got a mileage awards flight I can afford departing this Saturday for Vancouver. Say the word, and I will be with you this weekend. (I hope that doesn't sound too scary).
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Post by: cigar joe on July 16, 2019, 02:27:07 PM
lol
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Post by: Lil Brutto on July 17, 2019, 03:59:55 PM
Great stuff!

 Anyone here involved in this?  ;)

No. We're working with scans of 35mm elements (i.e. first release theatrical dye transfer "IB Tech" prints) to preserve the International Cut (IC).

Three years ago one of the members of our team already recreated the IC using primarily the Italian Mondo BD and sync'd to the English mono audio from the MGM LD.

Here's a list of all the work involved in recreating the IC:
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-Removed Italian credits and replaced with 4K's credits. Regraded 4K's credits to better match the Mondo (kept one Mondo shot)

-Removed shot of single gunfighter on horse in the intro. Remove close up of the two gunfights

-Removed Italian "il brutto" title. Replaced with the 4K's English "The Ugly" shot and regraded to the Mondo's colors.

-Removed shots of Angel Eyes filling his bowl with food

-Removed shots of Angel Eyes eating

-Removed Italian "il cattivo" title. Replaced with the 4K's "The Bad" and regraded to the Mondo's colors.

-Kept extra shot of Blondie's gun after "rescuing" Tuco. Lil Brutto confirmed this was on the 98 LD but accidentally left off the 98 DVD even though its the same master. Its on the 93 LD

-Kept "flip cut" transition from Tuco talking to Blondie to being hung.

-Removed Italian "Il buono" title. Replaced with the 4K's English "The Good" and regraded to the Mondo's colors.

-Removed shots of confederate soldiers leaving town. Removed shots of bandits sneaking up on Blondie. Removed shots of Blondie cleaning his gun

-Removed longer hold on Blondie when confronted by Tuco

-Removed shot of wall being destroyed by cannon fire [Should have remained.]

-Removed Angel Eyes's visit to the Confederate fort.

-Removed Blondie's and Tuco's interaction in the desert, where Tuco eats and taunts Blondie.

-Removed the Confederate guard post scene. Restored fade in from black as the coach arrives at the monastery.

-Kept fade out/fade in at the monastery from when Blondie passes out and Tuco is bringing him water. This is present in the 93 LD but not in 98 DVD/EE/4K

-Removed additional dialogue scene in the coach between Blondie and Tuco.

-I re-cut the Mondo's arrangement of the "Tuco Torture" scene into its individual shots and rearranged them to match the IC/TC scene arrangement. I then added 6 shots from the old American Extended Edition that the Mondo was missing and regraded them to better match the Mondo's colors. I used the audio from the 4K and thehutt's audio restoration to sync the audio to the new arrangement.

-Removed Blondie meeting Angel Eyes' gang by the river and restored the shot of the train leaving the station cutting to Tuco in the train.

-Removed part of a shot of Tuco preparing his bath

-Removed the extra dialogue interaction between the Union commander and Blondie and Tuco.

-Removed extra scene extension of the Union commander moaning from his gun wounds.

-Removed extra scene extension of Blondie and Tuco setting up the dynamite on the bridge.

-Removed shot of Blondie chewing on his cigar while waiting for the bridge to blow-up

-Removed and replaced 4 shots from the Mondo with the old American Extended Edition's shots. This is the "Sorry Tuco" scene and not only that shot but the adjacent shots are different in the Mondo vs the 4K/98/93. Regraded to better match the Mondo's colors.

-Removed the end Italian il brutto, il cattivo, Il buono and replaced with the old American Extended Edition's The Ugly, The Bad and the Good. Regraded to better match the Mondo's colors.

-Removed Tuco's "Son Of A Bitch" Italian shot for the IC's version of the scene from the EE.

-Removed final Italian shot of Blondie riding off with the old American Extended Edition''s shot to get the English The End graphic. Regraded to better match the Mondo's colors.

-Removed restoration credits.
Title: Re: Fixing GBU Without Permission/Authorisation
Post by: cigar joe on July 17, 2019, 07:29:21 PM
Thanks for the info
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Post by: Lil Brutto on July 18, 2019, 10:37:20 PM
I made contact with the filmmakers. We are planning to get together sometime next week. It will be nice to meet up with superfans like us.
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Post by: dave jenkins on July 19, 2019, 06:58:55 AM
Keep us posted.
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Post by: Le Bon on July 21, 2019, 12:31:52 PM
Well done. Maybe they'd like to join us here.
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Post by: T.H. on July 22, 2019, 11:57:26 AM
They would make great additions to the board.

I tip my cap to all the dedicated Leone fans that are passionate about preserving his original vision. That's an enormous undertaking, major respect.

Title: Re: Fixing GBU Without Permission/Authorisation
Post by: uncknown on July 23, 2019, 08:36:14 PM
I still have the MGM laser.
Maybe I should put it in a safety deposit box!

The Kino DVD is the closest we have to a definitive IC.
If that version could be upgraded to 1080p , I would be satisfied.
Title: Re: Fixing GBU Without Permission/Authorisation
Post by: uncknown on July 23, 2019, 08:39:42 PM
They would make great additions to the board.

I tip my cap to all the dedicated Leone fans that are passionate about preserving his original vision. That's an enormous undertaking, major respect.

Yeah but nothing compared to the work that went into restoring THE.BIG.GUNDOWN ( check out my article to read why!)
Title: Re: Fixing GBU Without Permission/Authorisation
Post by: cigar joe on July 24, 2019, 03:59:19 AM
Yeah but nothing compared to the work that went into restoring THE.BIG.GUNDOWN ( check out my article to read why!)

About FrancoCleefs work? The CinemaRetro article, yea that was another labor of love.
Title: Re: Fixing GBU Without Permission/Authorisation
Post by: Lil Brutto on July 24, 2019, 05:28:39 PM
I met with them today. We talked GBU for nearly 2.5 hours! I really enjoyed it. I know they did too.

They know all about the 35mm project. Maybe there's an opportunity for collaboration sometime down the road.

I told them about SLWB. It would be nice to have them here.
Title: Re: Fixing GBU Without Permission/Authorisation
Post by: uncknown on July 24, 2019, 07:56:03 PM
About FrancoCleefs work? The CinemaRetro article, yea that was another labor of love.

I wrote that!.
Thanks for readin' pardner:)
Bruce Marshall