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Title: The Crimson Kimono (1959)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on July 09, 2020, 01:02:21 AM
The Crimson Kimono (1959)

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cigar joe: The Crimson Kimono (1959) director Sam Fuller, with Victoria Shaw, Glenn Corbett, James Shigeta, Anna Lee, and Gloria Pall. Stripper killed and LAPD detectives hunt killer in Little Tokyo. Turns into a sort of message movie on Asian/Caucasian integration, some nice noir sequences but way too much talk. The more noir I see of Fuller the more he doesn't quite ever reach the standards of "Pickup on South Street " or "House of Bamboo". 6/10

DJ enlighten us, what gives, is it the demise of the studio system directly related to the end of stylized noir?

I am aware that both color film and TV required bright lighting and that may have effected production with regards to the after market market, but the style of "Pickup on South Street" is markedly different from "The Naked Kiss" almost as if they had two different directors.

dave jenkins: I'm just guessing, but I'd say the culprits are TV and color. Noir migrated to the small screen in the late 50s (Check out Perry Mason, M-Squad, etc.) while color spectaculars took over the big screen. Then TV went all color, and there was nowhere left for noir to go.


cigar joe: I was kind of specifically relating the question to Fuller's Noirs.  ;)
Title: Re: The Crimson Kimono (1959)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on July 09, 2020, 01:03:20 AM
Eddie Muller's intro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDwOYrsuvfY

Eddie Muller's outro: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHNsB14at5w
Title: Re: The Crimson Kimono (1959)
Post by: dave jenkins on July 09, 2020, 09:43:16 AM
The Crimson Kimono (1959)
DJ enlighten us, what gives, is it the demise of the studio system directly related to the end of stylized noir?

I am aware that both color film and TV required bright lighting and that may have effected production with regards to the after market market, but the style of "Pickup on South Street" is markedly different from "The Naked Kiss" almost as if they had two different directors.[/color]
Just following up on this now.

I can't give the definitive answer, but I will point out that Pickup was lensed by Joe MacDonald, Kiss was shot by Stanley Cortez. Two DPs with very different styles.