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Title: Guilty Pleasures
Post by: General Sibley on November 12, 2004, 08:24:01 AM
Although I don't really care much for the non-Leone SW's, there's certainly plenty of fans on this board.  I'd consider these a "Guilty Pleasure", bad movies that you still get some perverse enjoyment from - not to be confused with "Worst Films", which have pretensions to being good movies but which flat out suck and make you ill.

So, some of my guilty pleasures are:

"Stone Cold" - screen debut of the immortal Brian Bosworth, co-starring Lance Henriksen as "Chains" and William Forsythe (yes, it's Cockeye!) as "Ice".

"Action Jackson" - Carl Weathers, and screen debut of Vanity as hot & horny junkie mistress of thinly veiled craven John DeLorean played by Craig T. Nelson (aka "Coach").   B-level Sharon Stone as clueless wife.  Robert Davi with heartbreaking scene as strungout DEA agent.

Any early Arnold - Raw Deal, Heat, Commando, etc.  Commando moves up on the list based on one pure line of dialogue, "I like you Sully, you a funny guy...dat's vy I'm going to kill you last"

"Warriors" - Sully from Commando reappears as creepy apocalyptic gang war instigator.  This time he gets the great line of dialogue at the climactic showdown on the beach of Coney Island, where he rhytmically clinks 3 "little Mickie's" bottles on the fingers of one hand while taunting them with, "Warriors...come out to play-ay.  Warriors...come out to PLAY-AY!

And, I think Fistful of Dollars has to fall into this category too :-X
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Belkin on November 12, 2004, 12:08:51 PM
JACK PALANCE IN HAWK THE SLAYER (1980). Bad but, wonderfully bad! :D
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: General Sibley on November 12, 2004, 12:20:18 PM
JACK PALANCE IN HAWK THE SLAYER (1980). Bad but, wonderfully bad! :D

Never seen it, but sounds promising - I think a requirement for Guilty Pleasure is a healthy dose of shameless overacting.  Palance mug would be on the wanted poster ;D

Kermit once mentioned "Terror in a Texas Town" with a stoic Sterling Hayden as a harpoon-throwing avenger in a corrupt Texas Town.   This plot screams for Shelley Winters as the love interest.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Film-Junkie Zach on November 12, 2004, 02:46:03 PM
The Sweetest Thing
Halloween 3:Season of the Witch
Bride Of Chucky
Exit Wounds
Rush Hour and Rush Hour 2
Saw
Resident Evil:Apocalypse
Ghosts Of Mars
13 Going On 30
Just Married
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: grandpa_chum on November 12, 2004, 05:37:04 PM
not sure exactly how you'd consider Fistful of dollars a guilty pleasure... maybe you and i differ on the definition of a guilty pleasure, but Fistful is truly a great movie... one of leone's best... it's so damn close to being my favorite of the dollars trilogy it's not even funny...
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: David Aaronson on November 13, 2004, 03:07:49 AM
Black Caesar, Hell Up In Harlem, no wait actually those are great movies.

However, that can't be said about The Enforcer, the third Dirty Harry film. But I love it all the same.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Belkin on November 13, 2004, 03:28:13 AM
Dead Pool would be my DIRTY HARRY guilty pleasure. That minature car with bomb sequence.....BAD! No.....VERY, VERY BAD!
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Belkin on November 13, 2004, 03:30:27 AM
Never seen it, but sounds promising - I think a requirement for Guilty Pleasure is a healthy dose of shameless overacting.  Palance mug would be on the wanted poster ;D

Kermit once mentioned "Terror in a Texas Town" with a stoic Sterling Hayden as a harpoon-throwing avenger in a corrupt Texas Town.   This plot screams for Shelley Winters as the love interest.
TERROR IN A TEXAS TOWN. Saw it years ago. That harpoon vs. six shooter scene is a delightful guilty pleasure!
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Belkin on November 14, 2004, 03:34:05 AM
Another one  springs to mind: RONALD REAGAN in BEDTIME FOR BONZO! UGH! :o
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: cigar joe on November 14, 2004, 05:11:01 AM
My all time favorite Guilty Pleasure that I wish would come out on DVD is Wise Guys.

Danny De Vito as Harry Valentini, Joe Piscapo as Moe Dickstein, Dan Hedya as Mob Boss Anthony Castelo, and the incomparable Captian Lou Albano as Frank "The Fixer" Acavano, this film is just hilarious, everybody outrageously over acts, its a modern classic.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: David Aaronson on November 14, 2004, 07:10:03 AM
Dead Pool would be my DIRTY HARRY guilty pleasure. That minature car with bomb sequence.....BAD! No.....VERY, VERY BAD!
Haven't seen it yet... but I will. 8)
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Two Kinds of ... on November 14, 2004, 12:28:12 PM
Dead Pool would be my DIRTY HARRY guilty pleasure. That minature car with bomb sequence.....BAD! No.....VERY, VERY BAD!
Actually that's a clever scene.  Think about how many regular sized Car Chases we'd seen around San Francisco from Bullitt until then.    How were they gonna make this car chase different?   By making it absurd with the remote control car.   It was a self aware parody and it was pretty funny ultimately.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: The Hunchback on November 28, 2004, 06:02:28 PM
Film-Junkie Zach, I was happy to see someone else out there liked EXIT WOUNDS and HALLOWEEN 3 as much as I did.  When ever I watch, or even think about, HALLOWEEN 3, I get the TV jingle from the movie stuck in my head.  Do ya remember?  It's London Bridges Falling Down with some really lame lyrics.

"10 more days til Halloween, Halloween, Halloween.  10 more days til Halloween. Silver Shamrock!"

Anyone know of an audio file of this out somewhere out on the net?
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Film-Junkie Zach on November 28, 2004, 10:01:10 PM
Film-Junkie Zach, I was happy to see someone else out there liked EXIT WOUNDS and HALLOWEEN 3 as much as I did.  When ever I watch, or even think about, HALLOWEEN 3, I get the TV jingle from the movie stuck in my head.  Do ya remember?  It's London Bridges Falling Down with some really lame lyrics.

"10 more days til Halloween, Halloween, Halloween.  10 more days til Halloween. Silver Shamrock!"


Anyone know of an audio file of this out somewhere out on the net?

try www.houseofhorrors.com

I Liked Halloween III because it was very good and different from the first two Halloween films. I thought the ending was great. Tom Atkins totally excuted that ending.

I Think the real reason Halloween III flopped because It didn't have The Shape. Everyone Loved The Shape. The Fans are the reason why The Shape won't die. I think Halloween III is better than Halloween 4, 5, 6, and 8. H20 is good as The Orinigal, Halloween II and III.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Nobody on November 29, 2004, 04:13:11 AM
Highlander 2, 3, and 4.

I think the first one is a great films, but the sequels are bad, and I still love em. I'd go so far as to say that the second in the series is among the worst films I've ever seen, but it's still hugely enjoyable. Long Live Christophe Lambert! I haven't seen the series though.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Bill Carson on November 30, 2004, 09:58:53 AM
 8)  interesting... ok -

American Ninja
Commando
Streets of Fire
The Monster Squad
Pray for Death
No Retreat, No Surrender
The Garbage Pail Kids: The Movie
Judge Dredd
Waterworld
Revenge of the Ninja
American Shaolin
Death Warrant

... can't think of any others. I'll think of some more while I watch my old VHS copy of Bloodsport.  
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Two Kinds of ... on November 30, 2004, 12:22:54 PM
Scanners
Several Goofy Kung Fu Movies
Tommy Boy
Destroy All Monsters

But really most of my flicks fit the CGF criteria.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: DJIMBO on December 06, 2004, 10:02:49 AM
Under Siege

I know Seagal is a shit actor but its just cheesy its funny i love under siege and you gotta love the ponytail he sometimes has. so 80s  ;D
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: General Sibley on December 06, 2004, 12:35:27 PM
Oooooooo, Seagal   :o    Djimbo, that's hard to top.

I'll see your Seagal and raise you a Patrick Swayze - "Next of Kin", "Road House" and "Point Break" vintage.  If any of these show up on cable I can't resist.

"Next of Kin" was on yesterday morning and I never realized what a killer cast it had - Liam Neeson as the mouth-breathing brother out for vengeance, Bill Paxton as the young and stupid (and dead) brother, Helen Hunt as the wife and on and on....a young Ben Stiller's in it, Adam Baldwin, Paul Greco.  Hillbillies vs. the Chicago Mob, what's not to love ?  Swayze has a magnificent mullet to boot.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: DJIMBO on December 06, 2004, 05:47:55 PM
ooohh i dont know if i can top Swayze  ;D:

Dirty Dancing\-

"Nobody puts baby in the corner!"

Ghost -

Demi Moore: "I love you"
To which Swayze replied: "Ditto"

jeez, general we're really delving into the cheese now!!

Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: General Sibley on December 07, 2004, 07:38:58 AM
Ghost -

Demi Moore: "I love you"
To which Swayze replied: "Ditto"

Swayze is the King of Cool - he must have improvised that  ;D  
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: grandpa_chum on December 07, 2004, 10:58:24 AM
Now that you mention it... Seagal is my guilty pleasure... hard to kill... under siege... On Deadly Ground... Above the law... not saying they are great movies... but i love watching them once in a while... they're great... he reminds me a lot of Eastwood MWNN stuff.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: grandpa_chum on December 07, 2004, 10:59:47 AM
scratch that... hard to kill is a good movie... guilty pleasure or not.

And for those of you that thought Under Siege was hilarious... you should check out belly of the beast... he's so fat and old and the story line is like something out of a third graders kung fu backyard brawl
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: General Sibley on December 07, 2004, 11:28:21 AM
Seagal single-handedly takes on the Chicago Mob in Hard to Kill doesn't he?  :-\

I guess that makes Seagal much cooler than Swayze - Swayze had to call in all his kinfolk to help take on the Chicago Mob.

I think a must condition for guilty pleasures has to be a Lone Wolf ( someone say they like Chuck Norris, I'll kill ya) taking on The Man.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: grandpa_chum on December 07, 2004, 11:26:26 PM
yes he does... and he succeeds... easily... I LOVE seagal movies... specially hard to kill... which has the two best action movie One-liners in movie history...

"I'm gonna take you to the bank, Senator Trent. To the blood bank"

and

after shoving half a cue stick into a guys thoat and having a flashback to this guy killing his wife...

"This is for my wife, Now fuck you and die!" WAM breaks the guys neck with a swift Kick to the noggin.

Man i feel SOOOOO guilty right now!
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Blueberry on December 08, 2004, 01:37:47 AM
Predator
Hellraiser 1, 2 (2 is quite bad...)
Face Off
xXx (man, that's just...)


Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: DJIMBO on December 08, 2004, 06:37:01 AM
you just gotta love seagal, i know mcbain in the simpsons is sposed 2 be arnie but take away the german accent add a ponytail and youve got seagal
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: JJ_Snakes on December 09, 2004, 03:43:53 AM
"The A-Team" TV series. The best TV series probably ever, nothing beats 'em, at least in it's genre. "McGyver" stays looooooong way behind. :P
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: KERMIT on December 18, 2004, 09:52:33 PM
streets of fire
wrestling woman vs. el santo
erraserhead
el topo
three stooges : have rocket , will travel
the st. valentines day massacre/ anything by corman
general sibley
plan 9 from outer space
roustabout {dilogue : ELVIS to barbara stanwick
                    this ain't nothin' but a run down circus.
                    B/S  >:(  mr. this is a  CARNIVAL !!!
bring me the head of alfredo garcia
return of sabata
the night evelyn came out of the grave
the hustler
the day the earth stood still { micheal rennie ultra kool }
polyester
don't look back or anything shot by d.a. pennebaker
the man w/ x-ray eyes
la dolce vita
the treasure of serra madre
gimme shelter or anything shot by the maysles bros.
miller's crossing  " "   "  "    shot by the coen bros.
the blues bros.
faulty towers
rumpole of the bailey
....and on and on.  :-\


Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: CloseUpEye on December 26, 2004, 12:34:10 PM

  The films of John Carpenter!!  ;D ;D
  The films of The Cohn Brothers  ;D
  Miami Vice (or anything by M. Mann!)  ;D

  Dawn of the Dead (the 70's one)
  Killer Klowns From Outer Space (hey, it's Vernon!)
  Evil Dead I & II
  It's A Wonderful Life
  The Honeymooners
  Strange Brew
etc..etc..  :P
 
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: General Sibley on December 28, 2004, 12:07:54 PM
Not a huge fan of horror genre, but rented "The Serpent and the Rainbow" this weekend (nice Christmas movie  ;)   Haven''t seen this in ages, they''ve dropped it from TV rotation - but very cool movie.  Zakes Mokae is great in this as the evil Tonton Macoute voodoo master, "I''m a US citizen, think about that"  "I don''t see the ambassador here, do you?"

Reminds me of the first time I encountered a Wes Craven movie.  Was at a second-run theater with a date to see "Vice Squad" starring Season Hubley, yeesh - how did I remember that, I need a mind eraser.  "Nightmare on Elm Street" was second on the bill, so stuck around to watch the beginning of it - thought it was extremely powerful and scared the crap out of me  :o  But, the critics said it was schlock so of course it was schlock so I left.  Wes Craven is really underrated, very talented - too bad he''s been stuck in the genre ghetto his whole career.
Title: Re:Guilty Pleasures
Post by: riotengine on January 16, 2005, 02:18:12 PM
Never seen it, but sounds promising - I think a requirement for Guilty Pleasure is a healthy dose of shameless overacting.  Palance mug would be on the wanted poster ;D

Palance is quite amusing and chews the scenery from one end of the screen to the other. It's something to see.

Another reason to see "Hawk" is that it's yet another version of The Magnificent Seven/ Seven Samurai. The scene with the bow-wielding elf rips off James Coburn's knife-throwing duel with Robert J. Wilke.
Title: Re: Guilty Pleasures
Post by: The Firecracker on April 26, 2006, 01:50:59 PM
Although I don't really care much for the non-Leone SW's, there's certainly plenty of fans on this board.  I'd consider these a "Guilty Pleasure", bad movies that you still get some perverse enjoyment from -

That is rather insultive towards the genre, yes there are a lot of crap in spaghetti westerns out there but the genre also produced plenty of quality films also.


Outside of Leone what spaghetti westerns have you seen?
Title: Re: Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Banjo on April 27, 2006, 04:34:54 PM
None probably-its my guess he's been listening too much to Leone-only anoraks ;D
Title: Re: Guilty Pleasures
Post by: The Firecracker on April 27, 2006, 08:18:57 PM
None probably-its my guess he's been listening too much to Leone-only anoraks ;D

it would appear so... ;D
Title: Re: Guilty Pleasures
Post by: Senza on March 18, 2013, 12:26:31 AM
"The A-Team" TV series. The best TV series probably ever, nothing beats 'em, at least in it's genre. "McGyver" stays looooooong way behind. :P
^This.