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Title: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: All-Vox Man on December 09, 2004, 05:13:50 AM
I have downloaded a version of the soundtrack, but it is incomplete (I expect for a second CD at least because the tracks have a "cd1-" prefix). This soundtrack issue is beautiful and rare because it contains every little piece of music of the film (even the four or five seconds pieces)... and all the major themes, of course. I'd like to know the complete title of this compilation and label that issued it, to find and buy it. I paste the titles of what I have here:

B.S.O. - ENNIO MORRICONE - Il buono, Il brutto, Il Cattivo

cd1 - 01 - il buono, il bruto, il cattivo (titoli).mp3
cd1 - 02 - untitled.mp3
cd1 - 03 - il tramonto.mp3
cd1 - 04 - untitled.mp3
cd1 - 05 - sentenza (part i).mp3
cd1 - 06 - fuga a cavallo (part i).mp3
cd1 - 07 - untitled.mp3
cd1 - 08 - fuga a cavallo (part ii).mp3
cd1 - 09 - untitled.mp3
cd1 - 10 - sentenza (part ii).mp3
cd1 - 11 - il ponte di corde (part i).mp3
cd1 - 12 - untitled.mp3
cd1 - 13 - il forte.mp3
cd1 - 14 - inseguimento.mp3
cd1 - 15 - il deserto.mp3
cd1 - 16 - la carozza dei fantasmi.mp3
cd1 - 17 - untitled.mp3
cd1 - 18 - la missione san antonio.mp3
cd1 - 19 - untitled.mp3
cd1 - 20 - padre ramirez.mp3
cd1 - 21 - marcetta.mp3
cd1 - 22 - untitled.mp3
cd1 - 23 - la storia di un soldato.mp3
cd1 - 24 - untitled.mp3
cd1 - 25 - fine di una spia.mp3
cd1 - 26 - il bandito monco.mp3
cd1 - 27 - untitled.mp3

Those "untitled" are the little pieces of music that I said. Oh, the ID3 of the mp3 tracks says that it's from 2001, but I don't know if this is correct.

Thanks a million guys!

Anton.


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Sensei on December 09, 2004, 08:32:02 AM
I have never seen any official releases with more than 21 tracks, but I myself have 44 tracks as mp3. Look in my profile and add me to your IM of choice and we can talk ;)


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Cusser on December 09, 2004, 10:07:26 AM
Sensei - how can you share your files with us on this board?  I'm at cussboy@cox.net

all-vox-man: it looks to me that there is more than you have, as yours doesn't have the end stuff, like Ecstacy of Gold, and final shootout.



Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: All-Vox Man on December 09, 2004, 11:23:53 AM
Sensei - how can you share your files with us on this board?  I'm at cussboy@cox.net

all-vox-man: it looks to me that there is more than you have, as yours doesn't have the end stuff, like Ecstacy of Gold, and final shootout.



Yeah Cusser, I noticed that too. I'm quite interested in this edition... please guys let me know if someone knows something about it. I think it is not the European edition of the extended version (http://www.soundtrack.net/soundtracks/database/?id=3648) because that only has 21 tracks...


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: iceman on December 09, 2004, 11:44:30 AM
See following web site too.......http://morricone.coolfreepages.com/
then go to "the Works" then "filmography" then 1966" then "Il Buono" etc
iceman


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Sensei on December 09, 2004, 02:23:02 PM
I would really like to share the 44 tracks with you, but I dont think I have the full album yet myself. First I want to talk with all-vox-man and get as many of the remaining tracks as possible. That way we wont make just another incomplete album...


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: All-Vox Man on December 09, 2004, 03:49:43 PM
See following web site too.......http://morricone.coolfreepages.com/
then go to "the Works" then "filmography" then 1966" then "Il Buono" etc
iceman

Hum, the site appears blank to me... I'll try again tomorrow.


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: iceman on December 09, 2004, 04:30:24 PM
Hum, the site appears blank to me... I'll try again tomorrow.


Just tried it again seems OK to me...


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: All-Vox Man on December 10, 2004, 01:10:56 AM
I still can't see the website. Please, could you paste the info here? Thanks man!


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: iceman on December 10, 2004, 04:07:43 AM
I still can't see the website. Please, could you paste the info here? Thanks man!

http://morricone.coolfreepages.com/


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: All-Vox Man on December 10, 2004, 05:18:44 AM
I meant the info, not the URL. Anyway, I changed my internet explorer security config and it let me in. Here is it:

Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo (1966)

Directed by: Sergio Leone

 Cast: Clint Eastwood The Man With No Name (Blondie)

Lee Van Cleef Angel Eyes Sentenza

Eli Wallach Tuco Benedito Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez

Aldo Giuffrè Northern officer

Luigi Pistilli Padre Ramirez

Rada Rassimov Maria, the prostitute

Livio Lorenzon Baker

Al Mulock One-armed gunslinger

Mario Brega Wallace

Enzo Petito  

Claudio Scarchilli  

John Bartho  

Antonio Casale  

Sandro Scarchilli  

Benito Stefanelli  

Angelo Novi  

Antonio Casas  

Aldo Sambrell  

Sergio Mendizábal  

Molino Rocho  

Lorenzo Robledo  


 


Music published so far: 1 2:38 Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo -titoli di testa   Music-Clip
 
2 1:12 Il tramonto   Music-Clip
 
3 2:20 Il forte   Music-Clip
 
4 5:11 Il deserto   Music-Clip
 
5 2:06 La carrozza dei fantasmi   Music-Clip
 
6 2:49 Marcetta   Music-Clip
 
7 3:50 La storia di un soldato Lyrics  
 
8 1:40 Marcetta senza speranza   Music-Clip
 
9 3:05 Morte di un soldato   Music-Clip
 
10 3:22 L'estasi dell'oro   Music-Clip
 
11 5:00 Triello - titoli finali    
 
12 1:39 Sentenza   Music-Clip
 
13 1:05 Fuga a cavallo   Music-Clip
 
14 1:51 Il pionte di corde   Music-Clip
 
15 2:22 Inseguimento   Music-Clip
 
16 2:13 La missione San Antonio   Music-Clip
 
17 2:36 Padre Ramirez   Music-Clip
 
18 5:30 La storia di un soldato Lyrics Music-Clip
 
19 1:22 Il treno militare   Music-Clip
 
20 1:12 Fine di una spia   Music-Clip
 
21 2:43 Il bandito Monco   Music-Clip
 
22 1:48 Due contro cinque   Music-Clip
 
23 7:14 Il triello (Containing most of Track 11)   Music-Clip
 
24 2:38 Marcetta - alternate take   Music-Clip
 
25 2:53 Storia di un soldato - alternate take   Music-Clip
 



Music to be found on my CDs: 1
Film Music 1966-1987
Various Artists: Golden Themes From Italian Western Movies  
1-11
Queimada (Burn)
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly  
1-25
Various Artists: Western Graffiti  
1-6, 8-10, 12-23
Il buono, il brutto, il cattivo  


Also known as: El bueno, el feo y el malo
Le bon, le brute et le truand
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
Três homens em conflito
Zwei glorreiche Halunken


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: All-Vox Man on December 10, 2004, 05:21:08 AM
But that doesn't explain the 2nd CD I found yesterday! hehehe. I'm waiting for it to be downloaded and I'll tell you guys...


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: indio on December 17, 2004, 03:01:20 AM
if your interested in Morricone check out this guys UK site, i've used him a few times. very fast delivery.
http://www.moviegrooves.com/shop/morricone.htm


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: All-Vox Man on December 20, 2004, 04:33:13 PM
Tsk! It's being hard to complete it! Hold on guys!


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Sensei on December 20, 2004, 07:47:11 PM
All-Vox Man, I think I managed to get a hold of the CD2 you are missing. It has 18 tracks with the CD2 prefix. I haven't had time to listen through it all yet, but it seems to be the same as the 41/44 track CD I have. I also found what looks like a bootleg-cover. I'll see if I have time to organize it all and get it out before xmas.


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: All-Vox Man on December 21, 2004, 01:10:22 AM
Sweet!


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Sentenza on December 23, 2004, 07:03:14 PM
The information available on http://morricone.coolfreepages.com/ (http://morricone.coolfreepages.com/) lists all music from GBU officially available so far. A minor nitpick, though, some of the details are inaccurate: the GDM compilation Western Graffiti only includes tracks 1, 24, and 25 (that's the main theme and the two alternate takes) and NOT all 25 tracks as the listing seems to imply.

Basically, the first 23 tracks appear either on the old Italian cd from Vivimusic, which includes La Resa dei Conti and/or the 2001 expanded edition from GDM.

The mp3s that All-Vox Man and Sensei have originate from one or more of the several expanded bootleg versions that exist from the GBU score. I'm currently trying to find out exactly how many versions do exist and how they differ from each other. :) More information as soon as I get it.

Meanwhile, I'm also quite interested in obtaining those files. I might be able to supply some of my own goodies in return.

Before I forget, last year GDM was about to release a Volume 2 of the GBU soundtrack. It already had a catalogue number GDM2039, but suddenly its release was postponed until further notice till it disappeared completely. Subsequently the catalogue number was used for a different cd. I'm pretty sure most of the stuff you guys have dug up would've ended up on that cd, it's a shame they didn't release it.
The picture in my avatar is a cropped version of the planned sleeve for that record.  ;)


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Sensei on December 24, 2004, 01:49:28 AM
Great info Sentenza! :D I would also recommend http://www.chimai.com which is a great site for researching Morricone music. I dont think the listing All-Vox-Man presented is from any album, but rather from a page about the movie and the music (http://morricone.coolfreepages.com/film/film.php?film=58&lang=en&kat=1). I didn't know these tracks existed and they arent on either of the bootlegs I have. If anyone has the Western Graffiti (http://morricone.coolfreepages.com/cd/cd.php?cd=421&kat=7&lang=en#Kopf) soundtrack, could you send me these files so I can include them on the album? If not I'll have to buy the CD and it will probably take a week or two for it to ship >:( I have ripped both the bootleg and the expanded 2001 GDM release in a lossless format and I'm working my way through it now. Some tracks on the GDM CD actually sound worse than the ones on the bootleg! But I'm trying to remove as much noise/hiss as possible without messing up the special sound of this soundtrack. I'm watching the movie and comparing the music as I go and taking notes of which music is still missing. So far there are only a few small clips. Sentenza, if you have any files (preferably on CD that hasn't been burned from a lossy format) it would be great if we could get together and compare with what I have. I'm sorry I can't get you all this album for xmas, but if I'm doing this I'm doing it good, once and for all, and I'm sure you will love the result! ;D


Title: Re:A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Stevesatch on December 30, 2004, 02:43:33 PM
I would very much like to get in on this bootleg version when it''s done.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Cusser on December 31, 2004, 08:03:08 AM
As would I.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Stevesatch on December 31, 2004, 05:22:22 PM
I can burn the 22 track Italian extended For a Few Dollars More or some other Ennio possibly in trade.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Cusser on January 02, 2005, 03:05:33 PM
Stevesatch - what''s the manufacturer and number of that 22-track FDM?


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Sensei on January 02, 2005, 04:45:41 PM
Probably the GDM 2038 (http://shop.gdmmusic.com/index.php?f=scheda&s=txt&id=31). I have that one inluded in a 31 track version. The quality of the extra tracks is awful and they contain all the sounds from the movie, so they are probably ripped right off the DVD. :-[


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Sentenza on January 03, 2005, 10:46:50 AM
Sensei, I have the "Western Graffitti" compilation and could send you the two unreleased GBU tracks that are on it. I''ll need to find the cd first, though. So it might take a while...


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Stevesatch on January 03, 2005, 12:08:55 PM
Stevesatch - what''''s the manufacturer and number of that 22-track FDM?

GDM 2038


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Sensei on January 03, 2005, 02:23:41 PM
Sensei, I have the "Western Graffitti" compilation and could send you the two unreleased GBU tracks that are on it. I''''ll need to find the cd first, though. So it might take a while...

Ok, great. :D I have the two tracks as 192kbps mp3 now, but a higher quality would be great. Add me to your IM if you have any, and we can talk.  :)


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Stevesatch on January 03, 2005, 09:09:06 PM
My Morricone trade list if i can get in on the CDr.

A Pistol for Ringo (extended 14 tracks)

The Return of Ringo (extended 12 tracks)

5 Man Army (8 tracks)

Death Rides a Horse (extended 16 tracks)

The Great Silence (12 tracks)

Once Upon a Time in The West (extended 20 tracks)

Faccia A Faccia (extended 31 tracks)

Il Mercenario (Remastered.  16 tracks)

Navajo Joe (16 tracks)

The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly (extended 21 track Italian GDM release)

La Resa Dei Conti (extended 24 track Italian GDM release)

The Legendary Italian Westerns (BMG release.  Tracks from nine Morricone western soundtracks.  Gunfight at Red Sands, Guns Don''t Argue, A Fistfull of Dollars, A Gun for Ringo, For a Few Dollars More, Ringo Rides Again, 7 Guns for the McGregors, Death Rides a Horse, Once Upon a Time in the West.    Check Amazon.com for exact track list)

Spaghetti Western (BMG release.  Tracks from nine Morricone western soundtracks.  A Gun for Ringo, At Times Life is Very Hard Isn''t that Fate, 7 Guns for the McGregors, Gunfight at Red Sands, Bullets Don''t Argue, 7 Women for the McGregors, Death Rides a Horse, We''ll be Back Isn''t that Fate, The Return of Ringo.  Check Amazon.com for exact track list)

An Ennio Morricone Western Quintet.  2 CD set on DRG records with songs from A Fistfull of Dynamite, My Name is Nobody, A Fist Goes West, Blood and Guns, and Companeros.  Check Amazon.com for exact track list.

A Fistfull of Dollars.  BMG release.  8 tracks.

For A Few Dollars More/A Fistfull of Dollars.  BMG release.  12 tracks.

For a Few Dollars More.  (extended 22 track Italian GDM release)


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Stevesatch on January 04, 2005, 03:16:35 PM
I just worked out a trade for the following bootlegs!

Good Bad and the Ugly - 2 CD
Good, the Bad and the Ugly, The (Ultimate Editon)
Good  The Bad  And The Ugly. Recording Sessions 2 CD

I know nothing about track list or sound quuality.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Sensei on February 01, 2005, 06:21:49 AM
zip-archive 256k mp3 (167 MB):
http://s8.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=098H9Y3NWF7UL100BVMH8OS0C9

zip-archive 128k mp3 (83.3 MB)
http://s11.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2S97DAP2KWUZC3JSWL3D5AOLBT


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Cusser on February 01, 2005, 08:43:23 AM
The downloads worked for me, and I'm not real computer-literate, thanks.  To me it appears these are the same files, but the first download (the larger one) gives files with more bytes.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Le Bon on April 11, 2008, 05:18:58 PM
I have a 50 track version of GBU. This includes the Grotto,  Angel eyes at the fort and the 'golden haired angel' bit. Apologies if there are more recent posts about this. I did a search and this was the most relevant one i found.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: dave jenkins on April 11, 2008, 09:31:48 PM
Is it sourced from the DVD soundtrack, then?


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Le Bon on April 12, 2008, 03:58:17 AM
A friend sent it to me so not sure of the source but there are no sound effects or dialogue  like one i have from FAFDM. There are two tracks of the main title and one has the gunshots on it. Also has the two versions of The Trio, and the drumbeat at the end while Tuco is hanging which i had always wanted.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: cigar joe on April 12, 2008, 04:08:39 AM
must have the chimes in the The Trio at the end then too.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Cusser on April 12, 2008, 08:23:46 AM
I have that 50-track version as well.  And a 39-track version.  What I actually listen to is my custom compliation of parts of the 21 -and 39 track versions.  For the 21 track version, I have "Il Buono Il Brutto Il Cattivo  (Italy) Apr. 1, 2001   
GDM 7001".  I used the computer to truncate the "middle" of "The Trio" to match the film, and yes, it has chimes.  The Story of a Soldier on it it quite understandible, better than on the "original" soundtrack.  My custom one has "golden haired angel", maybe I took that from 39-track version, don't remember.  "The Final PArtnership" (Tuco on the cross, Blondie riding away) came from 39 track version as well.  I don't have the 2004 U.S. expanded CD, read that the 2001   
GDM 7001 was better, main difference was a different Story of a Soldier.



Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Le Bon on April 12, 2008, 05:18:15 PM
I have a 50 and 51 track versions. The 51 just has the tracks listed as track 1, 2 etc. I only recently obtained them so i need to compare and see exactly how they differ. The Tuco on the cross one is called motifs and drumbeat and is only on my 50 track one. This has remixes of Ecstasy of Gold and the main theme and three versions of  Story of a Soldier. One is an extended version starting and finishing with instrumental (with electric guitar) with vocal in the middle. The Trio has the chimes in also.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Cusser on April 15, 2008, 12:28:23 PM
One version I have has the GBU title track two ways: one as on the official CDs, and one with the gunshots/cannon shots in it as in the film itself.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: Le Bon on April 16, 2008, 03:26:12 AM
Yes my one has both as well. Nice to have the two together.


Title: Re: A question about the soundtrack...
Post by: cigar joe on April 16, 2008, 03:39:30 AM
So where can I get that extended version with the chimes.  8)