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Films of Sergio Leone => For a Few Dollars More => Topic started by: iceman on December 14, 2004, 03:16:09 AM



Title: Indio in Jail
Post by: iceman on December 14, 2004, 03:16:09 AM
Does anyone know why his gang waited 18 mths before springing Indio from Jail ???
It only took Manco a few hours to spring Sancho Perez or ...."To arrange for his release.....naturally"  


Title: Re:Indio in Jail
Post by: cigar joe on December 14, 2004, 04:27:00 AM
Maybe they scattered, maybe Groggy liked being boss, maybe some of the rest were also in jails somewhere, it could be various reasons. The Jail looked pretty formidible, maybe they needed to turn an inside man before they could get it the gate to spring Indio. This part you can fill in by speculation, not everything has to be spelled out.


Title: Re:Indio in Jail
Post by: KERMIT on December 14, 2004, 06:12:25 AM
maybe indio's gang just wasn't too "swift" without their leader.  else, why did they empty their revolvers trying to get that safe open  the carpenter built ?

manco, on the other hand traveled alone i.e. until mortimer showed up.  


Title: Re:Indio in Jail
Post by: KERMIT on December 14, 2004, 08:05:09 AM
why was indio in jail ? tax evasion ? you just don't put a meltdown kinda guy in low key stir.
he's like got a gang out there who in all probability are planing....and planing of springing the madman indio.


Title: Re:Indio in Jail
Post by: General Sibley on December 14, 2004, 08:17:20 AM
maybe indio's gang just wasn't too "swift" without their leader.  else, why did they empty their revolvers trying to get that safe open  the carpenter built ?


I've got to go with Kermit's theory.  Groggy was the clever #2 man, but wasn't he like a Prodigal Son type who finally showed up after Indio was sprung?  If Groggy wasn't around I think by default that would leave The Hunchback in charge of things.  Hence no master plan of escape forthcoming while the gears slowly turn.

Re no execution - Indio was like the Pablo Escobar of his times, a criminal god amongst men.  He was probably living large in prison, shaving garlic with a razor to make his salsa, savoring 100% agave tequilas with the carpenter and so on.  As long as his cash held out it would behoove his captors to keep him alive.


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: dave jenkins on July 29, 2008, 09:55:25 PM
There's also the matter of the carpenter. Maybe it took Indio 18 months for him to win the guy's confidence. Only when he'd gotten the whole story did he tell his gang to spring him.


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: Groggy on July 30, 2008, 05:22:16 PM
Actually, it appeared from the jail scene (addressing the General's point) that Nino was in charge of the gang which sprung Indio, not Wild.


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: Tuco the ugly on August 05, 2008, 04:04:53 AM
Maybe Indio thought of it as a vacation.


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: Groggy on August 05, 2008, 07:27:44 AM
Maybe Indio thought of it as a vacation.

Security didn't seem to be overly tight (or competent, at least), so perhaps you're right.


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: Tuco the ugly on August 05, 2008, 11:32:04 AM
Security didn't seem to be overly tight (or competent, at least), so perhaps you're right.

Remember what Groggy said?

He said: ''Indio calls, Groggy comes running.'' That would suggest he escaped only when he felt like... Crazy fucker!


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: dave jenkins on August 05, 2008, 12:11:07 PM
Crazy like a fox. ;)


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: Tuco the ugly on August 05, 2008, 12:43:58 PM
Exactly. ;)


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: Senza on March 18, 2013, 05:52:51 AM
I wonder what he did for those 18 months


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: drinkanddestroy on March 18, 2013, 09:41:27 AM
I wonder what he did for those 18 months

The carpenter looked like a pretty sexy guy if you ask me


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: Senza on March 18, 2013, 06:47:36 PM
The carpenter looked like a pretty sexy guy if you ask me

I was wondering how Indio managed to get all that information off him.


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: Father Groggy on February 16, 2014, 08:26:41 PM
As mentioned elsewhere, I wondered why Indio would just be sentenced to prison while Tuco was sentenced to for a hanging.

There were many arguments about different capital punishment laws in different areas.  Maybe after 18 months they finally decided to execute Indio and a breakout was necessary.

But I like the earlier theory about Indio wanting to stay in prison to gain the carpenter's trust.    Still one has to ask at what point did Indio realize that the carpenter had a secret worth knowing?  I'm guessing the carpenter didn't say anything right away.  And if that was the reason, wouldn't another gangmember have to know?  When Indio told his "parable", nobody seemed to know anything.

On a side note, have you ever wondered why the carpenter was in prison?  He knew he created the safe disguised as furniture.  It sounded the idea of stealing money stayed with him.  Do you think he may have attempted a robbery?


Title: Re: Indio in Jail
Post by: iceman on February 24, 2014, 02:44:05 PM
"But I like the earlier theory about Indio wanting to stay in prison to gain the carpenter's trust. "

Perhaps Indio was trying to gain the carpenters trust.....he seemed pretty cool and not shocked when they heard the shooting in the jail and obviously new the gang were here to spring him. So once he knew the carpenters secret he must have got a message to the gang to come and get him.....

ref why he was in jail....maybe he tried to blackmail the bank manager when he found out his drinks cabinet was actually disguising the safe?

ICE