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Title: Blindman (1971)
Post by: cigar joe on January 22, 2005, 03:19:09 PM
Ok the latest addition to my SW collection.
Now here is an inspired bizzare bit of SW lunacy.  ;D

Blindman 1971.

Tony Anthony is the iconic philosophical Blindman, he wears a floppy sombrero with a cartridge belt hat band, a patchwork duster with one sleve missing, he has a Winchester rifle that has an extended magazine that comes to a point making it double as a walking stick/cane. He uses a braille map and compass. He wears a leather sign around his neck that he can flip open that reads Blind Man on top and the equivalent in Italian below. He has a seeing eye horse named "Boss" which takes him where he wants to go... when he asks for directions he tells whoever he's asking to "tell the horse".  ;D

"Boss" is some talented horse the whole credits sequence and about the first 4 minutes features the antics of this extraordinary steed.

Besides all this he's got extraordinary hearing and somewhat of a sixth sence and can mow down the baddies as he detects them,  ;D this ladies & gentelmen, is the essence of a good SW.  Its done well enough that you suspend belief, its a good flick.

He enters a cantina with his Winchester in his out stretched hand so naturally enery one scatters as he swings the thing around. When he gets a room for the night he swings the rifle around and breaks a mirror, lol.

The story is he's got a contract to deliver 50 mail order brides to a bunch of miners in Lost Creek, Texas. He arrives in the town of Big Inch to collect them but finds out that a bandito/pimp named Domingo has hijacked them to work in a bordello that he runs with his sister "Sweet Mama". They are pimping them to the Mexican Army.

Domingo's brother is "Candy" played by Ringo Starr, he fancies a gringo blond and she is his undoing. Ringo does a great job with his character

This film even has a train scene that features the same squeeky windmill at a water stop along the railroad from OUATITW, (no I didn't see if it was Morton's RR  ;D).

I watched two versions of this the English cut and the Italian cut, the English cut has less T&A nudity (what can you expect with 50 women and it being the 70's, itsreminds you an explotation women in jail flick) and some bloody gunshots cut out so its a tad bit shorter.

Anybody whose folks may have a problem with this make note.

The Italian Cut has a few more Blindman philosophical one liners that don't show up in the English language version.

Here's one:

"Being blind is like being half a man, being blind and having no money.....now that's a bitch"

The sound track is also good, shrieks, whistles, guitars, whipsnaps, sounding a lot like Morricone but its Stelvio Cipriani.

SPO Entertainment Japan DVD, but I here that a German release with an english language version is being released.

I didn't know what to expect with this flick but was pleasantly surprised.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: redyred on January 22, 2005, 04:35:08 PM
Sounds pretty good Joe. How good is stuff like direction and cinematogragphy?


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: cigar joe on January 22, 2005, 06:43:06 PM
As far as direction and cinematography its not up to Leone standards but its better than average, there are no inspired camera angles or ingenious use of framing Fredinando Baldi was the director he also directed "The Forgotten Pistolero" and "Texas Adios" of which I haven't heard much about.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Belkin on January 23, 2005, 01:47:07 PM
Saw it on the big screen years ago.....left me cold! Not one I would watch again. But talking about watching again, have just (re)viewed REDFORD in "JERIMIAH JOHNSON". Beautiful movie. Simple yet elegant. A forgotten masterpiece? A great companion piece to EASTWOOD'S "JOSEY WALES", imo that is. Ah, good post Sunday dinner fare. :)


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Smoker on January 23, 2005, 02:13:59 PM
Blindman is a great movie.

Instead of following the Fistful/Yojimbo template. They found something new..
Its a clever Spaghetti Western take on Zatoichi 'The Blind Swordsman' all the philosophical statements are like a homage, the shaby hobo appearances too. Which leads to underestimation of his potential.

How can a movie with the drummer from the beatles as a sadistic bandit loose. come on ;D


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Belkin on January 23, 2005, 02:32:11 PM
MMMmmmmmm! I think RINGO looks as bored playing the part as I was watching it!  :P


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: cigar joe on January 23, 2005, 03:34:17 PM
Maybe you'd better watch it again Amigo with a few stouts as a preamble.

What was it originally rated at in the UK, I don't think you may have seen the original uncut film.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Belkin on January 23, 2005, 03:41:57 PM
Maybe you'd better watch it again Amigo with a few stouts as a preamble.

What was it originally rated at in the UK, I don't think you may have seen the original uncut film.
You could be right, my friend. The cut I saw made no sense whatsoever. If I come across it on DVD will give it a second chance. Stout is a plus!!!!! ;)


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: cigar joe on January 24, 2005, 04:26:56 AM
Here this is from the IMDb on its certification:

Blindman
Certification: Finland:(Banned) (1972) / Sweden:(Banned) / UK:X / USA:R / Canada:18+ (Quebec) / Canada:R (Ontario)

Wow, banned in Finland & Sweden, rated "X" in the UK, its pretty tame stuff, lol.

How did you get in the theater back then Belkin?, lol.



Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Belkin on January 24, 2005, 07:02:53 AM
Here this is from the IMDb on its certification:

Blindman
Certification: Finland:(Banned) (1972) / Sweden:(Banned) / UK:X / USA:R / Canada:18+ (Quebec) / Canada:R (Ontario)

Wow, banned in Finland & Sweden, rated "X" in the UK, its pretty tame stuff, lol.

How did you get in the theater back then Belkin?, lol.


Saw it back in the ole' homestead, Dublin. Eire had a totally different rating system from Britain. For example the LEONE trilogy were rated suitable for kids. As were say, the BRUCE LEE movies. THE WILD ONES with BRANDO, although banned for years in the UK was shown in Dublin at a Saturday morning matinee. All of these and more were shown uncut. It was only in the mid 70's with the press backlash did they start to censor violent movies. A peculiar (Catholic) outlook was, for many years, that violent movies were ok but sex scenes were chopped to pieces. I remember seeing a version of FROM HERE TO ETERNITY that was missing the LANCASTER/KERR beach scene! Go figure. I caught up with a BLINDMAN re-issue in late 70's and remember that it was chopped to hell and back yet they showed TAXI DRIVER uncut! SERPICO was missing the swearing. All very confusing. No wonder I drink!  ;)


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Le Bon on January 24, 2005, 01:40:12 PM
Here this is from the IMDb on its certification:

Blindman
Certification: Finland:(Banned) (1972) / Sweden:(Banned) / UK:X / USA:R / Canada:18+ (Quebec) / Canada:R (Ontario)

Wow, banned in Finland & Sweden, rated "X" in the UK, its pretty tame stuff, lol.

How did you get in the theater back then Belkin?, lol.



The X certificate in the UK back then was the equivalent of the 18 we have now which came in in the 80's. So it was just for adults, a bit different than the US X cert.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: redyred on January 26, 2005, 04:41:25 PM
Also, practically everything gets banned in Finland and Sweden, they have really tough rating laws over there. Look at most SWs on IMDb you'll see the same thing.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Smoker on January 29, 2005, 01:20:42 PM


It has 'Rock n Roll' pedigree.
Blindman was funded/produced by ABKCO, Allen Klein's production company. And a branch of London Records in New York.
He's known for managing the Stones business in the States in the late 60s. And more famous for over seeing the neglated business problems at Apple Corps on Savill Row, as the Beatles where bitterly falling apart in the public eye.
(http://rynn.free.fr/ringo/bio/ringoBlindman.JPG)
Hence why Mr Starkey plays Candy in Blindman.

Klein actually has a cameo in the film. One of the sleepy siesta riflemen at window at the start.

Tony Anthony went through gruling days in the desert dust with his 'Blindman' contact lenses, which must of been quite primitive for the time. You can see how Blindman gets that sometimes quite intense scowl on his face.  ;)

 


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Marco Leone on March 29, 2005, 04:59:18 AM
Well, I've watched it last night (wasted on wine), and penned a review for my site, to compliment the review that Cigar Joe kindly allowed me to use:-

"Your average spaghetti western gunslinger goes in search of gold, probably hidden in a grave somewhere, someplace. Or is hunting down the bad guy that has murdered a member of his family. But not Blindman - "I want my 50 women".

Yes, Blindman has a contract to deliver 50 mail order brides to a group of miners, and unfortunately he has been double-crossed by his partner, who has sold the women on to bandit Domingo.

It is worth noting that Domingo's brother, Candy, is played by none other than former Beatle and Thomas the Tank Engine narrator Ringo Starr. And, surprisingly he plays this role really well (who said he was the least talented Beatle - I couldn't imagine Paul McCartney acting so well. Actually, I know - I saw "Give My Regards to Broadstreet" once!).

The film, with its "mock Morricone" score, charges along comic book style, and is really good fun. The politics are maybe a bit dodgy in places (judging by the number of beatings and mishandling that both the Blindman and his 50 women are subjected too at regular intervals) and you have to question how a blind gunslinger could have survived so long. But maybe it is such points that make this so different from the many other Spaghetti Westerns, and help to make this a really great view".

http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/spaghettiwesterns



Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: cigar joe on March 29, 2005, 03:43:27 PM
Its a hoot, lol.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Marco Leone on March 30, 2005, 02:02:47 PM
Was great fun.  Would be interesting to watch again.... sober.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on September 21, 2005, 07:29:42 AM
yes it is true. ex-BEATLE RINGO STARR(RICHARD STARSKY) plays a mexican bandit named CANDY  in the spaghettiw western BLINDMAN.

JUST SO U KNOW BLINDMAN IS ONE OF THE BEST SPAGHETTI WESTERNS


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on September 21, 2005, 10:37:10 AM
NOBODY FINDS THIS INTERESTING?


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: cigar joe on September 21, 2005, 04:43:29 PM
There is a thread about Blindman in the Other Films section HEX


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on September 21, 2005, 06:37:01 PM
oh thanks JOE


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: skeleton king on September 24, 2005, 10:22:26 PM
yes it is intrasting i love the beatles very much.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on October 21, 2005, 03:12:53 PM
well here is as promised the BLINDMAN review.

personally with this film the less u know about it the more u will enjoy it(like most spaghettis). so i will try not to give away to much. but for those who have seen the film i would like to comment on some stuff that contain *SPOILERS* but i will signify that there is a spoiler up ahead and for u not to read any further. wheather u continue or not is purly up to youre own will power.

lets begin. the plot revolves around a blind gunslinger trying to get back 50 mail order brides that have been wrongfully stolen from him. what is mostly cool about BLINDMAN the character is that he cant handle himself in a fight(unlike most spag heros). the guy is constantly getting trampled on. which i found this to be very different and entertaining. he is NOT an indestructable manly man(and this i liked) but he is however the luckiest bastard that ever lived. every time he gets in a jam he is helped by some outside force, which usually comes in the form of a mexican general who seems to have a life debt to BLINDMAN ever since he has saved his life. this i did not enjoy at all. if he was to be saved by someone, please let it happen only once. it seems as if every time he is surely going to be killed(which happens more times then i can remember) this mexican general just staggers on set like a crazy drunk and saves him. it would have been nice if BLINDMAN would be like a DJANGO type character and have some trick up his sleeve even if the odds are against him. but there arent any white rabbits in this magicians hat(after all if youre blind and youre occupation is a gunslinger, it helps to be a bit more resourceful then usual) another thing i didnt care for was that in one scene BLINDMAN blows away this guy with a revolver, and he fires six times!!!!! why would he be so wastful  with bullets? i would understand if there was no one else to kill but he was surrounded by like three guys in that scene! couldnt he conserve? on a high note the acting is great(probably the best ive seen in a non-leone western). this is certainly TONY ANTHONY'S best spaghetti western performance(though i havent seen GET MEAN or THE SILENT STRANGER aka STRANGER IN JAPAN nor COMIN AT YA) and he definatly steals the show as the wise cracking BLINDMAN. another fine job was done by(as if u already didnt know) ex-beatle RINGO STARR as a mexican bandit named CANDY. unfortunatly STARR doesnt have that big of a part.

*SPOILER*

RINGO's death was a treat because up until now i had only seen the cut version of the film in which he is only shot once. uncut u can see him be shot again and again.

*SPOILER* ENDS

all the other actors did a top notch job, even the unwanted(at least by me) mexican general did a fine job. the direction is done well also, with lots of fast zooms and zoom outs. the editing is done well, everything moves smoothly, with the exception of a few scenes that seemed like they wanted to get it done quickly and move on.
as for those who like one-liners. this film has some very funny and bad ass one liners u can bother youre friends  to the point of annoyance with.
and for those who enjoy seeing naked  women flooding there movies, this one has a tidal wave of nude chicks for u.
the film is very fun to watch and very unique. and it sometimes reaches the realm of eccentric. for example BLINDMAN'S horse(named BOSS i believe) is especially weird. he has been trained more like a dog for the blind,
and BLINDMAN seems to have some sort of kinetic telepathy with his horse(though this is not something heavy in the film it is just something i noticed, its not put out there.) the movie is actually kinda  a self-parody of itailian westerns. even the music seems like its making fun of MORRICONE scores with its wails and chimes. the ending to the film is both satisfying and fitting.


*SPOILERS*

at the end when that annoying general runs off with the girls was totally unexpected and it kicked major ass!

*SPOILERS* END


so overall...

PROS

1. BLINDMAN gets beat up alot and is shown to have human qualities. he is not an unstoppable being.(this is depending on taste some people may not enjoy this but i sure did.)

2. the atmosphere is wonderfully weird and the plot is very original.

3.RINGO STARR

4.RINGO is great. "the least talented beatle?" HA!. i could never see PAUL MCARTNEY as a decent actor.
out of all the fab four's films MCARTNEY is definatley at the bottom off the food chain in all his roles.(but iam getting off topic)

5.creative torture methods

6.great locations

7.good acting(TONY ANTHONY'S BEST ROLE)

8.creative methods of using a gun(using the beret of a gun as a blind stick)

9. BLINDMAN'S one-liners

10. good soundtrack(is it available?)





CONS

1. annoying ass mexican general who comes in and saves BLINDMAN'S ass way to many times.

2.some sloppy "get it over with" scenes

3. RINGO STARR has a somewhat small role.

4.BLINDMAN isnt very resourceful. u seem to wonder how he has lived so long in his proffesion.

OVERALL the film gets a 3 out of 4 for me. it could have had a four but there is way to many flaws. not a great spaghetti but definatly a very good one. definatly  get the UNCUT version.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: cigar joe on October 21, 2005, 04:09:45 PM
I like Blindman too not a comedy western but almost, I enjoyed this one too amigo.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on October 21, 2005, 04:10:03 PM
sorry i forgot to mention.

this character definatly deserved a sequel even a trilogy.
i would have enjoyed to see this turned into a series.
if THE STRANGER got a series of films, BLINDMAN deserved a series as well. i guess it didnt do well here or overseas.


also has anyone seen that trailer... WOW! ive seen some bad sw trailers in my time but that was beyond awful. and that music!? what was up with that? it sounded like a blacksploitation movie :-\


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Marco Leone on October 21, 2005, 04:18:55 PM
Apparently, alot of the reason for there being no sequel was that the sand kept getting behind Anthony's "blind man" contact lenses, which I imagine was more than a bit painful.

Its a great film though - quite comic strip-esq.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Smoker on October 21, 2005, 04:32:06 PM
You could see how Anthony's charactor got that almost intence frawn on his face. It was real pain.

Ace soundtrack.. In the sequence where Blindman rides out to the empty bride card on the plain (Or should that be Boss, the horse) Cipriani music. Its a proper hair standing on the back of the neck moment. class

Theres just been recent discussion over at the Spag Board about getting hold of bootleg soundtracks?
Must own one. Official copies have been rumoured to go for quite a price on ebay.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on October 21, 2005, 08:23:20 PM
hey MARCO just finished reading youre review on BLINDMAN(which i always shyed away from. didnt want to hear about cut scenes.) i just realized that we both made pretty much the same comment on PAUL MCARTNEY. i guess u noticed that in most beatles films(especially HARD DAYS NIGHT that he seems like the only one of the four who looked like he was trying to act
instead of just acting.) how strange?

also i wanted to mention that CEIGO is spanish for blind(u have it as itailian). CEIGO is what is written on blindmans flip thingy. i know it seems like a minor gripe but there are alot of unforgiving hispanics out there who hate there language to be butchered. so i figured id just give u some healthy criticism(if u want to call it that). id hate to see u in the midst of a stupid arguement with some guy about it. usually every bodies a complete ***hole online(just check the imbd boards). one little mess-up and youll get a hailstorm of insults.

u can change it if u wish...but... then again its youre site so u can tell me where to stick my opinion.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Marco Leone on October 22, 2005, 04:08:46 AM
Are you sure its my review, and not someone else's that I've posted on there.  I'm only saying that, because I don't understand ANY languages other than my own (being ignorant!)   :D


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on October 22, 2005, 07:18:55 AM
Unfortunately i only have a copy of the abridged version also,and as it is this movie is quite enjoyable,but there is no way Blindman can hold it's own amongst the SW greats and i would have to largely agree with Howard Hughes's assessment of 3 out of 5 in his Pocket Essentials Guide.
If this is Tony Anthony's best performance(ok he did a good job despite the unconvincing mumbling) i so far haven't been tempted with the Stranger movies which i gather are mediocre FOD & FAFDM imitations, afterall there is only ONE Clint-but if i saw them for a cheap price.....?


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on October 22, 2005, 09:17:21 AM
i would have to say it is his best role(mind u i havent seen GET MEAN, STRANGER IN JAPAN or COMIN AT YA! but i hear tell these films arent up to snuff with his other sw works. though u cant always go by opinion).
the way he presents himself is almost chilling(when hes not cracking a wise ass statement). "almost mumbiling"?
i hardly think he was even close to mumbling. that voice is one of the few voices in the sw world that has not been ruined by bad dubbing( for example DJANGO, TEXAS ADDIO, SHOOT THE LIVING PRAY FOR THE DEAD, DJANGO KILL the list goes on and on).



to MARCO: iam almost sure it was youre review but if u dont remember writing that comment i guess its not. ill check again.



but overall i do agree with u BANJO. like i said in my review it isnt one of the greats, but its definatley very good.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on October 22, 2005, 10:50:11 AM
Yes HEX,you're right about Anthony using his own voice here.I haven't seen the other 2 films you mentioned yet,but as regards Django and Texas Addio surely it would not be a such a monumental task to get Franco Nero to dub over his parts in English,as Eastwood did just that recently on the extended SE GBU dvd?


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on October 23, 2005, 01:04:49 AM
well actually that would be a bad idea


see NERO'S roles in those two films are supposed to be white american(cockhaisian would be the word but i cant spell it right) and NERO has a heavy accent in real life so even his own voice wouldnt fit.
i would much rather see a white american re dub the voice to make DJANGO sound less like an idiot. and BURT SULLIVAN to sound less like a backwater town hill billy.


and u should really check out THE STRANGER movies(there good fun). u can get the first two for cheap on a double movie special for like under 20. a bargain i say.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on October 23, 2005, 04:45:17 AM
I maintain that it would be an excellent idea,HEX,for Franco Nero to redub his voice in English for Django,Texas Addio as well as for Massacre Time.For me Nero has one of the great movie voices and over the years his accent has been passed off as many nationalities and in fact he holds the record for playing the greatest variety of nationalities on screen.
I don't think that anybody can have any doubt that had Sergio Corbucci made Django after The Mercenary and Companeros,Nero's own English dubbing would have been used.
I know exactly where to find the Stranger series for a cheap price but there are a few more titles that are higher up on wanted my list at present .


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on November 29, 2005, 10:14:31 AM
Apparently, alot of the reason for there being no sequel was that the sand kept getting behind Anthony's "blind man" contact lenses, which I imagine was more than a bit painful.

Its a great film though - quite comic strip-esq.


sorry to bring this up from a while back but i forgot to ask u MARCO, how did u come across that info about the sand in his eye? an interview?


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Marco Leone on November 29, 2005, 03:37:06 PM
I can't remember for sure Hex, but I think most probably the first Howard Hughes book.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: cigar joe on November 29, 2005, 08:49:56 PM
Yea the sand behind the contacts was in Hughes first Pocket Essential book.

Also the Italian cut is a bit longer, check it out too.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on November 29, 2005, 09:52:19 PM
Yea the sand behind the contacts was in Hughes first Pocket Essential book.

Also the Italian cut is a bit longer, check it out too.

ok sorry to be a bit ignorant but what does HOWARD HUGHES have to do with the spag western? are we talking about pilot howard hughes?


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on November 30, 2005, 07:27:42 AM
No it's the author Howard Hughes who wrote the Pocket Essential Guide to SW's covering 31 movies and also a very detailed study of 20(plus discussions on many more!)  of the same movies in the follow-up book "Once Upon A Time In The Italian West".
The first book is great for SW virgins or anyone(like me 3 years ago) just wanting to rediscover SW's.
If you have any spare cash left over from DVD's Hex,i highly recommend the second book even if you've already got most or all of the main titles-its that good!


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: HEX on November 30, 2005, 07:40:45 AM
No it's the author Howard Hughes who wrote the Pocket Essential Guide to SW's covering 31 movies and also a very detailed study of 20(plus discussions on many more!)  of the same movies in the follow-up book "Once Upon A Time In The Italian West".
The first book is great for SW virgins or anyone(like me 3 years ago) just wanting to rediscover SW's.
If you have any spare cash left over from DVD's Hex,i highly recommend the second book even if you've already got most or all of the main titles-its that good!

thanks BANJO i will check it out. i am only missing one main title at the moment and that is FACE TO FACE. hopefully i will get it by CHRISTMAS. as for spare cash i am broke until a week from now. i recently purchased CEMETARY WITHOUT CROSSES and i have FRAYLING'S SPAGHETTI WESTERNS book waiting for a pick-up at the local book store, but i am gonna need 30 bucks(that is rather expensive for a paperback) before i can go get it.


and on that note....we cue the music


paperback writer
i want to be a paperback writer
PAPERBACK WRITER!


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 13, 2006, 02:33:20 PM
Warning: This post may contain spoilers.


The brutal sun beats down on the scorched desert as a lone rider is seen drifting across the wilderness. He reaches a deserted town but his horse veers off in many directions as if the rider doesn't know which way he's going. A man steps out from a building bewildered at the strange site. The rider gets down from his horse. " Where's Skunk? " After the townsperson realizes the man is blind he points in the direction of the church so Blindman can announce his arrival. The blindman shoots the bell three times awaking Skunk and two buddies. After threats made to and by Skunk the Blindman straps dynamite to the door when Skunk refuses to tell him where Domingo's hiding the women. Blindman rides off and the building blows up taking Skunk and his buddies with it. This is how Blindman opens.

Most of the film is spent showing Blindman's quest to get his 50 women. He made a contract with Skunk to have them delivered to miners in Texas but Skunk's friend Domingo ( the bad guy in the movie and don't let the credits fool you, he's NOT played by Ringo Starr ) has stolen the women for his own use. There's a side plot where Domingo's brother Candy ( this is Ringo Starr ) has fallen in love with a pretty blonde named Pilar who clearly shows no sign of affection to him which results in her getting a smack or two.

Domingo uses the women to lure in the Mexican general who has a price on his head and his men. There is a brutal massacre and only the general is spared. He too wants to get even with Domingo.

Blindman lures Candy into the caves where he has Pilar and shoots him down. When Domingo and his gang find his dead brother, the hunt to find the Blindman is on.

A great film by Ferdinando Baldi, it's cool, it's fun, and it's fast-moving. Definantly not a movie for militant feminists or anyone who may be offended by the way some women are shown in the film, but it is a hidden gem for devoted fans of the SW genre.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Marco Leone on May 13, 2006, 02:55:15 PM
I agree!  love it - it has a comic strip type feel to me.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 13, 2006, 09:47:10 PM
Great stuff. I am glad the dvd got there all right and I am glad you enjoyed it!
It is a great movie! Very Fun indeed.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on May 14, 2006, 01:46:03 PM
One thing that I liked a lot was the opening...instead of the usual music...there were only hoofbeats...& it was a great way to open the movie.
Baldi & Anthony did a similar thing in "Comin' At Ya"......with no music & no dialogue for the opening 13 minutes.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 14, 2006, 01:50:36 PM
never could figure out why a sequel was never made. That has always confounded me to no end. It did very well world wide even in its butchered version here in the U.S.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 14, 2006, 01:51:51 PM
never could figure out why a sequel was never made. That has always confounded me to no end. It did very well world wide even in its butchered version here in the U.S.

I was always under the impression that it did very poor in the states being that you can't buy the DVD here.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 14, 2006, 01:52:44 PM
I was always under the impression that it did very poor in the states being that you can't buy the DVD here.
that doesnt mean anything.
Its just it was forgotten. It happens.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 14, 2006, 01:54:48 PM
that doesnt mean anything.
Its just it was forgotten. It happens.

That's true. There are many forgotten classics.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 14, 2006, 02:02:08 PM
That's true. There are many forgotten classics.

most Spaghettis did very well in America (ala Big Gundown, Sabata) but that does not stop them from being left in the dust thirty years later.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 14, 2006, 02:03:40 PM
most Spaghettis did very well in America (ala Big Gundown, Sabata) but that does not stop them from being left in the dust thirty years later.

It was the too-American film critics that tried to run them into the dirt.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 14, 2006, 02:06:45 PM
yeah I dont know whether it was racism or what but the likes of Ebert hated films like "Death rides a horse". How can you dislike such an entertaining movie? At least the American public was open minded enough to enjoy them.

Leonard Maltin was another wanker who never gave them a chance.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 14, 2006, 02:10:57 PM
yeah I dont know whether it was racism or what but the likes of Ebert hated films like "Death rides a horse". How can you dislike such an entertaining movie? At least the American public was open minded enough to enjoy them.

Leonard Maltin was another wanker who never gave them a chance.

Death Rides a Horse is awesome. Too bad I only got it in pan-and-scan.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 14, 2006, 02:13:15 PM
if Zatoichi got over 20 sequels, Blindman(of which was based off Zatochii) should have gotten at least two sequels.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 14, 2006, 02:14:06 PM
if Zatoichi got over 20 sequels, Blindman(of which was based off Zatochii) should have gotten at least two sequels.

They should've. Comin' at Ya is as close to a sequel as we'll ever see.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 14, 2006, 02:15:13 PM
But if you think about it, the film is left open for a sequel. Blindman 2: Blindman is going to get his girls back from the general but this time, he'll not just face a gang but an army!


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 14, 2006, 02:15:58 PM
Comin' at Ya is as close to a sequel as we'll ever see.


not sure how true that is. I think there is a big difference in plot and Anthony's character himself. I guess I will have to see.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 14, 2006, 02:16:59 PM
But if you think about it, the film is left open for a sequel. Blindman 2: Blindman is going to get his girls back from the general but this time, he'll not just face a gang but an army!

that is a good idea but I rather would have had him in a different adventure all together. If he could off the general in the first twenty minutes then that would be cool.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 14, 2006, 02:20:05 PM
that is a good idea but I rather would have had him in a different adventure all together. If he could off the general in the first twenty minutes then that would be cool.

Well Blindman 2 is the general adventure then there could be Blindman 3 where he does something else.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 14, 2006, 02:22:16 PM
But their should be something other than the girls again. It would have to top the originals unique story line.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on May 14, 2006, 03:41:06 PM
Comin' at Ya is as close to a sequel as we'll ever see.

It's not a sequel...just a rehashing & reworking  of a general plot...although there are a few developments that are very close.
If anything...H.H. Hart could be an older..ready to settle down version of Anthony's "Stranger" character.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 14, 2006, 04:44:35 PM
It's not a sequel...just a rehashing & reworking  of a general plot...although there are a few developments that are very close.
If anything...H.H. Hart could be an older..ready to settle down version of Anthony's "Stranger" character.

How does the audience know his first initials? Are they on a sign somewhere 'cause I don't think people walk up to him saying " hey H.H. ! What's up? '


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on May 15, 2006, 05:53:08 PM
Firecracker,weren't we meant to look up where Allen Klein fits into this movie exactly as well as the other Beatles guy as mentioned by Howard Hughes? ::)


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 15, 2006, 05:57:10 PM
Firecracker,weren't we meant to look up where Allen Klein fits into this movie exactly as well as the other Beatles guy as mentioned by Howard Hughes? ::)

it was mentioned but I dont think either of us set to try and prove it.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on May 15, 2006, 06:27:01 PM
I'll try to remember to do an internet search tommorow then-i don't suppose Kleins mentioned in the dvd credits? ::)


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 15, 2006, 06:29:25 PM
i don't suppose Kleins mentioned in the dvd credits? ::)


only as a producer. If he is in the film I am sure he will not be credited.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on May 16, 2006, 04:28:48 PM
I'll try to remember to do an internet search tommorow then-i don't suppose Kleins mentioned in the dvd credits? ::)
This didn't take me more than 10 seconds-Klein played a fat rifleman on window:-
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0458646/


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 16, 2006, 04:47:09 PM
This didn't take me more than 10 seconds-Klein played a fat rifleman on window:-
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0458646/

fat Rifleman at window? I suppose one of Skunk's men?


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: titoli on July 08, 2006, 04:37:34 PM
Had to fight sleep twice to watch this and lost both times: slow-moving, very. Only good thing the boobs and buns, and that's that.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 08, 2006, 04:42:15 PM
Had to fight sleep twice to watch this and lost both times: slow-moving, very. Only good thing the boobs and buns, and that's that.

That's one of the best things in the movie, I must admit.  ;D

But you didn't like the movie overall? I thought it was a cool movie.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: titoli on July 08, 2006, 04:55:36 PM
No, I didn't. The production values were higher than usual, which gives the movie some allure on a purely visual plan. But the story takes too much time plodding through its narrative points, getting back to them when they should be left aside because exhausted (see the scenes at the mine).
 


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 08, 2006, 05:32:04 PM
No, I didn't. The production values were higher than usual, which gives the movie some allure on a purely visual plan. But the story takes too much time plodding through its narrative points, getting back to them when they should be left aside because exhausted (see the scenes at the mine).
 

It's funny, now that I think about it, your review of Blindman is the only negative one I've seen. I'm not saying this to be offensive, it's just an observation.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: titoli on July 08, 2006, 06:51:30 PM
No problemo. BTW, this discussio gives me the idea to open up another topic.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 12, 2006, 12:15:31 PM
Had to fight sleep twice to watch this and lost both times: slow-moving, very. Only good thing the boobs and buns, and that's that.


I can understand the going back and forth of rescueing the girls then getting themselves captured again as being boring but the first half hour and the finale is ACE.

are you sure you have seen the uncut version?


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Leone Admirer on July 13, 2006, 07:37:40 PM
Thanks for the review Peacemaker. Expect mine soon. All I'll say is I had mixed reactions to this but I leant on one reaction more then the other  ;)


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 15, 2006, 12:48:45 PM
Thanks for the review Peacemaker. Expect mine soon. All I'll say is I had mixed reactions to this but I leant on one reaction more then the other  ;)

Thanks Leone Admirer. I was on Ebert's website and I saw his review of Blindman:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19720114/REVIEWS/201140301/1023


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 15, 2006, 01:08:13 PM
Thanks Leone Admirer. I was on Ebert's website and I saw his review of Blindman:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19720114/REVIEWS/201140301/1023

That was the sorriest excuse of  a review I have ever read.
He doesnt seem to praise or pan the film at all. He just jumps around on unrelated stories and things the film reminded him of like "horses knowing how to type" (wtf?).
Though Ebert is pretty much hated by film buffs (ah the life of a critic) I often find him to be spot on with all his reviews.
But this "Blindman" review is the pits. He touches on what happens in the film a bit and then goes of on some tangent concerning different matters.
I guess he didnt take the film seriously and figured that he shouldnt take his review of it seriously.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 15, 2006, 01:17:02 PM
That was the sorriest excuse of  a review I have ever read.
He doesnt seem to praise or pan the film at all. He just jumps around on unrelated stories and things the film reminded him of like "horses knowing how to type" (wtf?).
Though Ebert is pretty much hated by film buffs (ah the life of a critic) I often find him to be spot on with all his reviews.
But this "Blindman" review is the pits. He touches on what happens in the film a bit and then goes of on some tangent concerning different matters.
I guess he didnt take the film seriously and figured that he shouldnt take his review of it seriously.

I know, if you think this is bad you HAVE to see his A Stranger in Town review posted by Groggy. It's hilarious how pathetic it is!


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 15, 2006, 02:21:19 PM
I know, if you think this is bad you HAVE to see his A Stranger in Town review posted by Groggy. It's hilarious how pathetic it is!

can somebody post a link to this?


and has Ebert reviewed the sequel to Stranger in Town?


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 15, 2006, 02:22:38 PM
can somebody post a link to this?


http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F19680327%2FREVIEWS%2F803270301%2F1023&AID1=%2F19680327%2FREVIEWS%2F803270301%2F1023&AID2=

If you thought the Blindman review was bad wait til you see this crap!


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 16, 2006, 02:24:05 PM
http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F19680327%2FREVIEWS%2F803270301%2F1023&AID1=%2F19680327%2FREVIEWS%2F803270301%2F1023&AID2=

If you thought the Blindman review was bad wait til you see this crap!

what the fuck is he? a writer of fiction now?
what a crock of shite!
He didnt even talk about the movie(which was a big hit by the way)!

wow. Ebert was a joke in his early years.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 16, 2006, 02:27:27 PM
what the ****** is he? a writer of fiction now?
what a crock of shite!
He didnt even talk about the movie(which was a big hit by the way)!

wow. Ebert was a joke in his early years.

I told you. Not only that but he makes it sound like he was scared or left emotionally crippled from the movie.   ;D


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: pixelated on February 12, 2007, 04:36:45 PM
only had the chance to watch the first half of Blindman last night, but i'm fuckin lovin it

i give the gatling gun scene where they mow down the audience of military dudes 6 stars

some great one liners in this one as well... "now my gun is full of holes"

looking forward to the 2nd half tonight...



Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: pixelated on February 12, 2007, 04:45:05 PM
This film even has a train scene that features the same squeeky windmill at a water stop along the railroad from OUATITW, (no I didn't see if it was Morton's RR  ;D).
The Italian Cut has a few more Blindman philosophical one liners that don't show up in the English language version.

Here's one:

"Being blind is like being half a man, being blind and having no money.....now that's a bitch"

i knew that was the same squeeky windmill. it sounds like they even took the audio sample of the squeeky windmill directly from OUATIW.

i don't know if the copy i have is a fan-made cut or what, but it is mostly english and switches to italian for the one-liners you speak of.. which i am very appreciative for.. those one liners are great!


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on February 13, 2007, 07:19:59 PM
i knew that was the same squeeky windmill. it sounds like they even took the audio sample of the squeeky windmill directly from OUATIW.

i don't know if the copy i have is a fan-made cut or what, but it is mostly english and switches to italian for the one-liners you speak of.. which i am very appreciative for.. those one liners are great!

That's the uncut version (fan-made).


I think the second act suffers a bit from a few false endings.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 15, 2007, 03:29:52 PM
How long is that one? I've got the out of print German release that has german italian and english audio. It's 102 minutes I think.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: pixelated on February 15, 2007, 04:05:39 PM
How long is that one? I've got the out of print German release that has german italian and english audio. It's 102 minutes I think.

1:41:19

101 mins 19 secs


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Franks Harmonica on February 15, 2007, 04:17:56 PM
I wish they had made other Blindman SW's along the lines of the Zatoichi series. My only small complaint about the film was his riding and shooting at the same time.
 The unfortunate thing about this film is that the A-Hole who owns the rights ... wont let it get released in the US. Apparently hes the same jerk who owns the rights to The Holy Mountain, so after hes dead .... maybe we can get some 35mm prints playing at our repertoire theaters here!


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on February 15, 2007, 06:11:22 PM
I wish they had made other Blindman SW's along the lines of the Zatoichi series.


I don't think Anthony wanted to do anymore. I think it has something to do with the contacts he had on. Painful I suppose.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 16, 2007, 04:03:02 PM
I wish they had made other Blindman SW's along the lines of the Zatoichi series. My only small complaint about the film was his riding and shooting at the same time.
 The unfortunate thing about this film is that the A-Hole who owns the rights ... wont let it get released in the US. Apparently hes the same jerk who owns the rights to The Holy Mountain, so after hes dead .... maybe we can get some 35mm prints playing at our repertoire theaters here!

If you're referring to Jodorowsky's HOLY MOUNTAIN, there's a US box set of his films coming out and EL TOPO and HOLY MOUNTAIN are part of that set.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Franks Harmonica on February 16, 2007, 07:58:28 PM
Wow! I hope that they are complete and uncut .... I have the Japanese laserdiscs, but they are fuzzed out and poor quality.
Thanks for the info!


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 16, 2007, 08:00:04 PM
Check Fangoria.com. That's where I found the info. I'll see if I can post the link.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 16, 2007, 08:03:18 PM
http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=3571

If the link isn't highlighted go to headlines dated lanuary 24th. Anchor Bay is releasing the box set


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: pixelated on February 16, 2007, 08:23:25 PM
that's great news... and only $50 for the set  O0


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on May 26, 2007, 06:51:32 AM
Silenzio's verdict:-

Blindman

Great little spaghetti western starring Tony Anthony and Ringo Starr's nose. Anthony plays a blind gunslinger who delivers poetic one-liners whenever the opportunity comes up. Basically, the Blindman wants to deliver 50 order brides to prospectors, but he gets boned by his partners. He spends the movie trying to track down his fifty women and sell 'em to the miners, for a thousand bucks a pop. I found this plot quite imaginative by Spaghetti Western standards as it did not have anything to do with either A) revenge or B) some guy wandering into a town and making as much money as possible by playing all sides against each other. Also, the music is really great, and quite psychedelic. We get the standard whip-cracks and choirs singing lord knows what, but to add interest there's some great sitar and other "out-there" instruments. The dialogue's great, Tony's one-liners are classic: "Every night i kneel down and pray to the lord. I ask the lord 'Who are my friends?' And every night it's the same thing: he doesn't answer." All around solid.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on May 26, 2007, 03:59:38 PM
Arizona Colts review:-

BLINDMAN- 1971-Ferdinando Baldi’s highly entertaining spaghetti western stars Tony Anthony as a blind gunslinger clearly modeled after the mega popular ZATOICHI, THE BLIND SWORDSMAN series from Japan. Here, the Blindman must escort a clutch of mail order brides to their husbands to be only to run into trouble along the way when the brides are abducted by a vicious Mexican bandit. Ringo Starr plays the brother of the bandit leader. An exciting film that is slightly bogged down by a series of back to back dénouements. The comical final moments leave things open for a sequel. Baldi’s later western films feature outlandishly garish characters that would seem at home in the world of MAD MAX or the ROAD WARRIOR. They add a freshness to the by now tired traits of the genre and appear to be inspired by the similarly hippie trappings seen in Sergio Corbucci’s westerns of the time.



Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 06, 2008, 07:19:25 PM
Whole movie here...

http://www.watch-movies.net/movies/blindman/


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Banjo on August 07, 2008, 09:25:34 AM
Any sattelite viewers in the UK can also see it on the movies4men channel every now and again. ;)


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: cigar joe on August 11, 2008, 09:06:57 PM
Was watching this today and noticed when Domingo goes to the herders cabin to look for Pilar its the same location as the threshing circle in "Duck You Sucker".


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on August 10, 2010, 11:55:24 AM
Was watching this today and noticed when Domingo goes to the herders cabin to look for Pilar its the same location as the threshing circle in "Duck You Sucker".

Yes, SW fans will find quite a few familiar locations in this movie, including the fortress and the mines from El Condor.

To me, this is one of the best (if not the best) Tony Anthony SWs. I place it at the same (or higher) level as A Stranger in Town, and I find it far less bizarre than Get Mean.


Title: Re: Blindman (1971)
Post by: Cusser on March 17, 2017, 09:50:38 AM
Marisa Solinas had a nice extended scene without knickers.
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