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Title: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: Alias on January 27, 2005, 08:19:05 AM
You all know the final scene of GBU - where Wallach is left balancing precariously, his neck in the noose, apparently abandoned by Eastwood...

In my opinion (for what it's worth) it would have been better, at this point, not to have cut to a shot of Eastwood aiming his rifle. I think it would have been more suspenseful if we saw Eastwood riding away, then Wallach dangling, struggling, about to fall ...

... And THEN a bullet comes out of nowhere and slices through the rope, saving Wallach at the last possible moment ...

... And only THEN do we cut to Eastwood, lowering his rifle.

Isn't it really necessary to show Eastwood taking aim?  On one occasion earlier on in the film, it took him two bullets to cut through the rope, but  it's pretty clear by the end that he's not going to leave Tuco to choke (even if, humiliatingly, he winds up missing again and again, uses up all his ammo and has to ride quickly back and cut Tuco down...)  :)

Just wondered whether anyone else has any thoughts on this?


Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: Belkin on January 27, 2005, 08:33:52 AM
You all know the final scene of GBU - where Wallach is left balancing precariously, his neck in the noose, apparently abandoned by Eastwood...

In my opinion (for what it's worth) it would have been better, at this point, not to have cut to a shot of Eastwood aiming his rifle. I think it would have been more suspenseful if we saw Eastwood riding away, then Wallach dangling, struggling, about to fall ...

... And THEN a bullet comes out of nowhere and slices through the rope, saving Wallach at the last possible moment ...

... And only THEN do we cut to Eastwood, lowering his rifle.

Isn't it really necessary to show Eastwood taking aim?  On one occasion earlier on in the film, it took him two bullets to cut through the rope, but  it's pretty clear by the end that he's not going to leave Tuco to choke (even if, humiliatingly, he winds up missing again and again, uses up all his ammo and has to ride quickly back and cut Tuco down...)  :)

Just wondered whether anyone else has any thoughts on this?
Yeah!.....Glad Sergio directed it! ;)


Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: Cusser on January 27, 2005, 01:02:01 PM
Blondie raises and aims his rifle, and Tuco sees him but doesn't know if Blondie is going to shoot him (to put him out of his misery, a mercy death) or shoot the rope; my guess is that Tuco thinks Blondie is going to shoot him.  that's why Sergio shows Blondie aiming his rifle.  But the suggestion from Simon is cute, and would've worked as well.


Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: iceman on January 27, 2005, 03:38:49 PM
Blondie raises and aims his rifle, and Tuco sees him but doesn't know if Blondie is going to shoot him (to put him out of his misery, a mercy death) or shoot the rope; my guess is that Tuco thinks Blondie is going to shoot him.  that's why Sergio shows Blondie aiming his rifle.  But the suggestion from Simon is cute, and would've worked as well.

Come on Cusser for gods sake....CUTE!!!!!  CUTE?   whats all that about?

Ice


Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: Cusser on January 27, 2005, 04:54:09 PM
What's wrong with #*%@$*&%$#@  ^$%#$$&& ##$$&%*@#%# cute, #$%$*(&%#$%^ ???

They don't call me the Cusser for nothing.



Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: iceman on January 28, 2005, 03:07:58 PM
What's wrong with #*%@$*&%$#@  ^$%#$$&& ##$$&%*@#%# cute, #$%$*(&%#$%^ ???

They don't call me the Cusser for nothing.



WOW MAN ...I ONLY ASKED!!!!


Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: General Sibley on January 31, 2005, 10:54:50 AM
When I first saw it as a kid I thought Blondie was going to kill Tuco, not cut the rope.   The movie was so perfectly thought through that I would assume that was SL's intent.  Just one last bravura touch of drama.


Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: Half Soldier on February 03, 2005, 03:18:17 PM
If SL had done it as Simon suggested it would still have been good and we wouldn't have known any different.  When I saw the film as a kid for the first time (about 10 or 11) I thought it was a shame that they couldn't be mates now they had the money.  You know, shake hands and ride off together.  I know better now.


Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: Bill Carson on February 04, 2005, 03:48:42 PM
You all know the final scene of GBU - where Wallach is left balancing precariously, his neck in the noose, apparently abandoned by Eastwood...

In my opinion (for what it's worth) it would have been better, at this point, not to have cut to a shot of Eastwood aiming his rifle. I think it would have been more suspenseful if we saw Eastwood riding away, then Wallach dangling, struggling, about to fall ...

... And THEN a bullet comes out of nowhere and slices through the rope, saving Wallach at the last possible moment ...

... And only THEN do we cut to Eastwood, lowering his rifle.

Isn't it really necessary to show Eastwood taking aim?  On one occasion earlier on in the film, it took him two bullets to cut through the rope, but  it's pretty clear by the end that he's not going to leave Tuco to choke (even if, humiliatingly, he winds up missing again and again, uses up all his ammo and has to ride quickly back and cut Tuco down...)  :)

Just wondered whether anyone else has any thoughts on this?



 what on Earth are you talking about?


Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: Tim on February 05, 2005, 09:30:52 PM
  I agree with what G. Sibley said.  Look at Tuco's face when Blondie reappears on the hill aiming a rifle.  It looks like Tuco thought Blondie was going to put him out of his misery.  Watch his eyes.


Title: Re: Editing Of Final Scene
Post by: KERMIT on February 06, 2005, 10:51:57 PM
Blondie raises and aims his rifle, and Tuco sees him but doesn't know if Blondie is going to shoot him (to put him out of his misery, a mercy death) or shoot the rope; my guess is that Tuco thinks Blondie is going to shoot him.  that's why Sergio shows Blondie aiming his rifle.  But the suggestion from Simon is cute, and would've worked as well.
if you notice the drum beat  playing as blondie rides off on moroconi's score ceases and desists immediately before blondie aims his henry rifle.  consider,  all those coins at tuco's feet.   blondie could hade a change of heart like the time tuco owed him for starting the rope shooting scam, in the first place. that bit of intellectual property ownd by blondie could cost tuco  half his share but certianly not tuco's life. blondie must cover his ass also aginst tuco who threatened to shoot him 30 times.
blondie, being blondie does the right thing, just like old times. eloquent cussing, cusser. it's nice to know a man, these days, who sees the job through.