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Films of Sergio Leone => For a Few Dollars More => Topic started by: iceman on January 28, 2005, 05:52:55 PM

Title: Guy Callaway
Post by: iceman on January 28, 2005, 05:52:55 PM
Is It me or does Guy Callaway look absolutly nothing like his Wanted poster in Tucumcari.
He doesn't even have a moustache, and his hair ..well!!!

At least  Baby Cav and Indio looked something like themselves but Guy could have been anyone in the world.
....Well almost
Ice
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: General Sibley on January 29, 2005, 04:33:42 AM
That always bugged me too, especially coming so early in the movie.

Another thing that annoys me is the HORRIBLE dubbing in the scene where Mortimer discusses Guy Calloway with the ticket agent at the train station.  Usually the dubs are pretty damn good in the $$ Trilogy, but this one is terrible and it comes right at the beginning of the movie and turns a lot of newbies off.  It's like watching Clutch Cargo.
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: DJIMBO on January 29, 2005, 08:11:48 AM
dyu know what pisses me off - the poster the sheriff shows tuco in GBU has tuco's face off, but u can clearly see 'Guy Calloway' is the wanted name!! obviously couldnt fit 'Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez' on the poster so just used the old one from FAFDM!  ;D
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: iceman on January 29, 2005, 12:49:40 PM
dyu know what pisses me off - the poster the sheriff shows tuco in GBU has tuco's face off, but u can clearly see 'Guy Calloway' is the wanted name!! obviously couldnt fit 'Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez' on the poster so just used the old one from FAFDM!  ;D

The number of times I've seen that scene and never noticed once...how many more like that?

Ice
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Buntline on February 02, 2005, 04:02:26 PM
I've read  and heard on commentaries that Leone was a great scholar and collector of art, and that many of his famous big close ups of his actors were inspired by paintings. I've always seen a similarity between the shot of Callaway when we first see his  face after the Colonel shoots his horse and Diego Velasquez's painting 'The Dwarf Francisco Lezcano'.
http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/velazquez/velazquez.lezcano.jpg
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: General Sibley on February 05, 2005, 05:56:01 AM
That is a striking resemblance, certainly seems like more than a coincidence.  Nice eye Buntline:

(http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/velazquez/velazquez.lezcano.jpg)
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: General Sibley on February 05, 2005, 06:01:01 AM
Is It me or does Guy Callaway look absolutly nothing like his Wanted poster in Tucumcari.
He doesn't even have a moustache, and his hair ..well!!!

At least  Baby Cav and Indio looked something like themselves but Guy could have been anyone in the world.
....Well almost
Ice

I've got a theory - SL probably had already cast someone as Guy Callaway and had the Wanted poster printed up to resemble him. 

Then he probably saw someone on the location crew who reminded him of this haunting Velasquez painting he'd once seen, and he said - "Halto, Halto!  We're putting this guy in the movie instead!"   
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: KERMIT on February 05, 2005, 04:14:51 PM
I've got a theory - SL probably had already cast someone as Guy Callaway and had the Wanted poster printed up to resemble him. 

Then he probably saw someone on the location crew who reminded him of this haunting Velasquez painting he'd once seen, and he said - "Halto, Halto!  We're putting this guy in the movie instead!"   
bada-bingo general. maybe the first guy , not our guy. thought, if there just gong to have mortimer kill off my character i might as well take offer for another part with more diologue. enter guy callaway  ;D  just after his 50th dentist appointment.  lucky guy, lol 
just a guess
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Tiger on March 23, 2005, 12:29:29 AM
dyu know what pisses me off - the poster the sheriff shows tuco in GBU has tuco's face off, but u can clearly see 'Guy Calloway' is the wanted name!! obviously couldnt fit 'Tuco Benedicto Pacifico Juan Maria Ramirez' on the poster so just used the old one from FAFDM!  ;D

You can actually see the photo of Tuco is stuck on the old poster, right bottom corner is not stuck well and is showing a shadow.

I doubt however it's the exact same poster as in FAFDM. That one is slightly torn on the left side and I can't see that on the GBU poster. Also the drawing of Guy is bigger than the picture of Tuco, but you can't see it in GBU. It could be that they whiped out the drawing. Even the paper color and thickness looks different to me(though that might be just an impression). My guess is they just used another print of the FAFDM poster.

Actually just looked even a bit more in detail. The poster in FAFDM hanging in the train station is not even the same one Mortimer slides under the door thought the story makes you believe it is.

For one it's lacking the two zero's Guy supposedly added himself but that could just be a continuity error. But I took screenshots and it's actually not even the same drawing of the face on both posters. So even those two are two different copies.
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: cigar joe on March 23, 2005, 03:47:04 AM
I think the al interiors were shot at Cinecitta in Rome & the all the location in Almeria, so its entierly possible that they forgot a couple of props here and there, there is a heck of a lot of stuff to keep track of.
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Juan Miranda on February 12, 2007, 09:06:16 AM
Ah, he was a fine figure of a man, that ol' Jose Terron Penaranda.

(http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a190/Tarkyhitch/callowy.gif)
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: New Brandon on February 18, 2007, 04:25:46 PM
You don't see too many glaring errors like that in a Leone film.
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: iceman on February 18, 2007, 04:37:35 PM

For one it's lacking the two zero's Guy supposedly added himself but that could just be a continuity error. But I took screenshots and it's actually not even the same drawing of the face on both posters. So even those two are two different copies.
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Can you post the two screen prints?

ICE
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Clinton on March 22, 2008, 03:32:55 AM
Is It me or does Guy Callaway look absolutly nothing like his Wanted poster in Tucumcari.
He doesn't even have a moustache, and his hair ..well!!!

At least  Baby Cav and Indio looked something like themselves but Guy could have been anyone in the world.
....Well almost
Ice

It may have already been pointed out - the actor who played the role originally was seriously injured when he jumped onto the horse and, thus, he was replaced. This could easily explain the lack of resemblance in the poster.
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Jordan Krug on March 24, 2008, 09:23:07 AM
It may have already been pointed out - the actor who played the role originally was seriously injured when he jumped onto the horse and, thus, he was replaced. This could easily explain the lack of resemblance in the poster.

How's this for ironic - I think the actor who played guy callaway is ALSO Shorty Larson! ("sorry shorty")

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3194/picture1cv9.th.png) (http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1cv9.png)


Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Tuco the ugly on March 24, 2008, 09:56:44 AM
How's this for ironic - I think the actor who played guy callaway is ALSO Shorty Larson! ("sorry shorty")

(http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/3194/picture1cv9.th.png) (http://img390.imageshack.us/my.php?image=picture1cv9.png)




Yes, that's him, but I wouldn't call his engagement in GBU 'acting', since he has (maybe) 0.25 second of screen time. His name is Jose Terron, an actor from Spain.
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Dirty Rat on March 28, 2008, 04:28:02 AM
I always wondered whether or not Shorty and Guy were the same actor. Back in the old days I even used to try and pause the moment on my vhs copy where Shorty drops in GBU to check but could never get a clear freeze-frame! Thank god for dvd's.

Something strange that I've always noticed about Guy Calloway. When you see a close up of him right after the scene where Mortimer shoots his horse and he turns around (and the creepy second or two of music plays) he looks like an entirely different person compared to when he is staggering towards Mortimer saying "I'll kill you for this". Has anyone else ever thought this? I guess it must be the same person but his whole face looks entirely different to me!!

Finally where does Mortimer shoot him initially, it obviously isn't fatal but he seems to grab his face before falling down. He makes some pretty funny noises too and boy, is that kid dripping some sweat!
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Groggy on March 28, 2008, 08:08:29 PM
Nah, it's definitely the same guy. He just isn't making faces yet. I've always had a problem with his voice, though - he definitely seems more suited for a whiny, snivelling Steve Buschemi type voice than a gravelly tough guy drawl.
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Jill on March 30, 2008, 02:26:01 AM
Is Jose Terron still alive?
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Tuco the ugly on March 30, 2008, 04:16:18 AM
Is Jose Terron still alive?

Because nobody can confirm it, we can't be 100% sure, but looks like he is still alive.
Title: Re: Guy Callaway
Post by: Clinton on March 30, 2008, 06:18:13 AM
Jose Terrón Peñaranda is described on Shobary's spaghettiwestern site:
http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/actors/joset/erron.htm

I thought that his son made contact with the SWWB some time ago, and he was surprised that people were discussing his father. I also thought that someone on the SWWB was in contact with Jose Terron's son. I'm pretty sure Jose Terron is alive and well.