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Title: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Il Buono on February 24, 2003, 10:06:42 AM
I have a question that may sound dumb, but is 'They Call Me Trinity' the sequel to 'My Name is Nobody'?  Are there (other) sequels to 'My Name is Nobody'?


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Jill McBain on February 24, 2003, 12:24:26 PM
1970 - Lo chiamavano trinità (They call my trinity)

1971 - ..continuavano a chiamarlo Trinità (Trinity is still my name)

1972 - Il mio nome è nessuno (My name is nobody)

1972 - E poi lo chiamarono il magnifico (A man from the East)



Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Il Buono on February 25, 2003, 04:13:43 AM
Thx, so My Name is Nobody is actually a sequel...


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: shorty larsen on February 25, 2003, 02:00:54 PM
I don't think that My Names is Nobody is a sequel of the "Trinity" series.

Terence Hill does a funny caracter in all this movies, that's right, but "my name is nobody" a sequel of the "Trinity" series?....


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Angel Eyes on March 13, 2003, 04:48:42 AM
When the Trinity films became box office smashes and threatened to eclipse the Dollars films, Leone decided to reply with one of his own (not really a squel or a Trinity film) "what ever you can do, I can....."
Who better to star than Mr. Hill.

Lets face it, They Call Me Trinity is almost as good as it gets.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Harmonica on April 05, 2003, 12:57:58 AM
Are these worth watching?


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on April 05, 2003, 07:18:36 AM
Only if you are very fond of comedy westerns.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 05, 2003, 08:31:20 AM
Are these worth watching?
watch them, they're fantastic.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Christopher on April 05, 2003, 08:27:41 PM
My dad has a DVD boxed set of They Call Me Trinity, Trinity is Still my Name, and another one called Boot Hill.
I've haven't watched these yet, but from what my dad has said, and from what I've read, I do plan on watching them sometime, since they do come recommended. ;)

I remember watching My Name is Nobody a really long time ago. The only part I remember is that Nobody was a really fast draw.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 06, 2003, 04:39:03 AM
My dad has a DVD boxed set of They Call Me Trinity, Trinity is Still my Name, and another one called Boot Hill.
I've haven't watched these yet, but from what my dad has said, and from what I've read, I do plan on watching them sometime, since they do come recommended. ;)

I remember watching My Name is Nobody a really long time ago. The only part I remember is that Nobody was a really fast draw.
aint nobody faster

check out the scene at the funfair in the hall of mirrors, i reckon this inspired the famous scene in "The Man with the Golden Gun" with Christopher Lee????


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Halis on April 06, 2003, 03:54:04 PM
The Hall of Mirrors showdown is an old movie standard. Orson Welles used it in THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI, and Antonio Margheriti liked it so much he used it in both ANTHAR L'INVINCIBILE (THE SLAVE MERCHANTS) and E DIO DISSE A CAIANO (AND GOD SAID TO CAIN). It even featured in a Bruce Lee movie, ENTER THE DRAGON. There must be many more instances.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Angel Eyes on April 21, 2003, 04:08:19 AM
The Hall of Mirrors showdown is an old movie standard. Orson Welles used it in THE LADY FROM SHANGHAI, and Antonio Margheriti liked it so much he used it in both ANTHAR L'INVINCIBILE (THE SLAVE MERCHANTS) and E DIO DISSE A CAIANO (AND GOD SAID TO CAIN). It even featured in a Bruce Lee movie, ENTER THE DRAGON. There must be many more instances.
good point Halis, I'd forgot about Enter the Dragon.
So I wonder who pioneered the first Hall of Mirrors scene?


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Hilton on July 03, 2003, 03:43:30 AM
The only sequel to "They call me Trinity" is ..continuavano a chiamarlo Trinità (Trinity is still my name)
My name is Nobody is not a sequel to the Trinity films but there is a sequel to Nobody "Un genio, due comari, un pollo" (Genius or Nobody is the greatest) from 1975.

Boot hill was the last part of the Giuseppe Colizzi trilogy.
The first to movies were "God forgives- I don't" and "Ace High"


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Vince D on August 20, 2003, 05:57:46 PM
I was at a used book store of all places and they had a small bin with used VHS videos, and I saw a video called "all the way Trinity"  starring Terrance Hill and Bud Spencer.  So i'm like, whats this?  It was italian directed and produced, but took place in modern times.  Still in the west though.  
ANybody familiar with this?  is it worth buying? They want 2 dollars for it.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: KERMIT on August 22, 2003, 05:17:55 PM
all the way trinity AKA trinity is still my name.

bambino (bud spencer) & trinity ( terence hill) promise their "dying " father they will become successful outlaws. lol  ;D

if i were in your shoes vince D, i would scarf up this little gem  post haste !

great for kids of all ages plus it holds it's salt... if , on the other hand, you take my advice, and don't like it, i will be glad to pay you triple the amount of cash you've spent to own a copy so either way you just can't loose.   ;)
kermit


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: indio on November 27, 2005, 12:34:01 AM
next sunday on ITV4 its time for bud and terrance!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on November 27, 2005, 01:36:03 AM
Brilliant news,time to ditch my crappy quality pan & scan dvd!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Marco Leone on November 27, 2005, 03:54:23 AM
I'm still not completely sold on this one.  I love parts of it, but the slapstick annoys me at times!

That said, the opening scene whilst Trinity is asleep and dragged in to town on his horse is priceless.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on November 27, 2005, 10:04:54 AM
I'm still not completely sold on this one.  I love parts of it, but the slapstick annoys me at times!

That said, the opening scene whilst Trinity is asleep and dragged in to town on his horse is priceless.


guys this spaghetti season thing is awesome. is itv4 only a british channel? i got about 500 channels that i need to start looking through to see if i have it.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Marco Leone on November 27, 2005, 02:01:35 PM
I'd be surprised if you could get it outside Great Britain.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on November 27, 2005, 04:48:08 PM
I'd be surprised if you could get it outside Great Britain.


nope dont have it LEONE_ADMIRER cleared it up for me. all i have is BBC on channel 2.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: The Smoker on November 28, 2005, 12:10:31 PM
Is that BBC america, Hex?

http://www.bbcamerica.com/
They do show programmes from ITV now and again, but not films generally.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on November 29, 2005, 10:01:53 AM
Is that BBC america, Hex?

http://www.bbcamerica.com/
They do show programmes from ITV now and again, but not films generally.


i cant really say at the moment, but i am almost sure it is. i really doubt i get the same broadcast u guys do.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 29, 2005, 11:17:07 AM
Yes it is BBC America Hex. I tell you what Hex, we'll swop countries so I can have the best of the US and you can have the UK  ;D


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on November 29, 2005, 11:19:51 AM
Yes it is BBC America Hex. I tell you what Hex, we'll swop countries so I can have the best of the US and you can have the UK  ;D
as long as i get some of youre women thats ok with me ;D
i have a thing for women with british accents. ;)


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 29, 2005, 11:22:52 AM
Wait till you meet one with a Chav accent  :o . Incidentally U have a thing for women with New York accents, (Edie Falco, boy do I love you  ;D )


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on November 29, 2005, 11:28:14 AM
Wait till you meet one with a Chav accent  :o . Incidentally U have a thing for women with New York accents, (Edie Falco, boy do I love you  ;D )


everytime i go to EPCOT at DISNEY WORLD i end up hanging out at the mock of LONDON at the world showcase most of the time.  pretty much just going to the pub to waited on by one of the girls ;)


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 29, 2005, 11:29:51 AM
Hmm, you must visit London sometime, its an interesting city, a bugger to get into for work in the morning but still, I think NY is the best city in the world and I can't wait till I live there.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on November 29, 2005, 11:34:39 AM
Hmm, you must vist London sometime, its an interesting city, a bugger to get into for work in the morning but still, I think NY is the best city in the world and I can't wait till I live there.


i have always wished to go to LONDON. since i was a small boy. it still remains today as my most sought after visit in EUROPE. right after cinecitta in rome and almeria in spain of course ;D(but those are fairly new entries. i placed them a good two years ago).


incidently have u ever been to NEW YORK? nice place. wouldnt really care to live there. just a tad overated.





just a tad.....


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 29, 2005, 11:36:03 AM
Yes, I have been to New York quite a few times now. I love it to bits.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on December 01, 2005, 12:43:39 PM
what is up with all the bean eating all of TERENCE HILL'S and BUD SPENCER'S westerns? is that like a gimick or something? is it supposed to be funny(like a forshadowing of them farting later? but that never happens) i have seen (mostly HILL) them eating beans in all these movies.

THEY CALL ME TRINITY
TRINITY IS STILL MY NAME
MY NAME IS NOBODY

and apparently they have this spoof on MAFIA films and the title is called something like

MACHO MEN EAT BEANS.(iam serious)

i have not seen BUDDY GOES WEST but i know LEONE_ADMIRER has. so ADMIRER does SPENCER snarf on beans in that film as well?


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 02, 2005, 03:12:00 AM
I'm sure i read somewhere that because of these scenes, comedy SW were called Bean Westerns-has anybody else heard of this term?


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on December 02, 2005, 07:57:53 AM
I'm sure i read somewhere that because of these scenes, comedy SW were called Bean Westerns-has anybody else heard of this term?


that is an interesting(and funny term ;D) but i cant say that i have heard of it.


i think i am going to adopt the phrase myself. so from now on i will call "comedy westerns", "bean westerns".

not on the forum though. i dont want u guys to get confused. i will just say it in public at stores just to get the employees irratetd and confused. ;D




Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 02, 2005, 08:13:42 AM
Buddy Goes West Hex? I don't believe I have seen it, but if its under another title then maybe I have.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on December 02, 2005, 08:15:29 AM
Buddy Goes West Hex? I don't believe I have seen it, but if its under another title then maybe I have.


my  mistake. i believe it was NOBODY who has seen BUDDY GOES WEST. i got u confused with with NOBODY. he has the same avatar as u ;D(dont change it!)


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 02, 2005, 08:17:37 AM
OK, phew, thought my mind had finally melted after watching so many spaghetti's and I was begining to foget the films I had seen.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Marisol on December 02, 2005, 09:14:48 AM
Maybe it has got something to do with the mexican "tortilla with beans" eating!?
It could be meant to remind you, that you are watching a Western that takes place in the southern part of America.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on December 02, 2005, 11:06:10 AM
Maybe it has got something to do with the mexican "tortilla with beans" eating!?
It could be meant to remind you, that you are watching a Western that takes place in the southern part of America.

well yes but that is rather obvious. it seems more like some weird gimick HILL and SPENCER like to do. in other sw's whenever a character is involved in eating(which is quite often. especially in LEONE'S films.) he/she is usually eating a sort of slop or stew, which consist of dried up vegetables and lettuce(at least that is what it looks like to me). i have never seen bean eating in another sw(with an exception to RUN MAN RUN in the beginning) except HILL/SPENCER'S comedy westerns, and it seems as if it is a running gimick with there other non-western films(like the title i mentioned above.)


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: HEX on December 02, 2005, 12:03:27 PM
There's a movie called "The Fist Goes West", that stars Spencer and has one of Morricone's best tongue-in-cheek scores that I've heard.  Is that it?  I haven't seen it, but the music sure is fun.


i would imagine that FIST GOES WEST is BUDDY GOES WEST under another title. since it is just about SPENCER beating up random people(hence "fist". i would imagine).


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 05, 2005, 01:44:14 AM
Managed to stay awake to 1am last night to record this while pausing out the adverts and its great to finally see this in widescreen.I'm going to email ITV4 to ask them to show Trinity Is Still My Name because my existing copy is terrible.
My all time favourite Bud & Terence movie is Watch Out We're Mad.I loved it as a kid and i still think its one of the funniest films ever made.I've been waiting a long time to see if a widescreen DVD will emerge!   


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Marco Leone on December 05, 2005, 03:35:13 AM
Good call Banjo, I could do with them showing the second Trinity film, as I've not seen it.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 05, 2005, 06:27:24 AM
Its not quite upto the same standard as the first film and is definately aimed at a family audience hence no-one dies.My favourite scene is where Trinity and Bambino display their slightly less than polite eating habits and table ettiquette in a posh restaurant-it kills me everytime!
I think whether you enjoy these films boils down to if you like Terence and Bud who to me are like an Italian Laurel and Hardy.I find their comedy westerns funnier than the more known USA variety like Blazing Saddles.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on December 05, 2005, 09:10:06 AM
I resaw them some months ago, as written elsewhere, and the second trinity still got me rolling on the floor when Spencer does confesses himself, though probably some of the scene's blatant blasphemy probably gets lost on non-catholic viewers. 


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 05, 2005, 09:22:34 AM
I like Terence but haven't seen any comedy pairings with Budd in films like the Trinity series. Sounds a bit too slapstick for my tastes.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Christopher on December 06, 2005, 03:25:33 PM
My dad has a DVD boxed set of They Call Me Trinity, Trinity is Still my Name, and another one called Boot Hill.
I've haven't watched these yet, but from what my dad has said, and from what I've read, I do plan on watching them sometime, since they do come recommended. ;)
Geez, it took me long enough to start watching them. I finally watched They Call Me Trinity the other night. I really enjoyed it too. I didn't see it as being so much a spoof of spaghetti westerns, as just a SW with humor added.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 07, 2005, 02:30:55 AM
I've only got the brilliant Watch Out We're Mad and also very good Crimebusters and yes Leone_Admirer with all the slapstick they manage to make the Trinity films look subtle!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 07, 2005, 07:55:33 AM
You certainly can't knock the Trinity films whether you like them or not.These were made(i've read) when most of the classic SW's had been and gone,directors were running out of ideas and turning more and more to violence.The comedy SW's revitalised the genre and kept it on its legs for a few more years.
We wouldn't have had the classic My Name Is Nobody for sure without  the Trinitys!!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 10, 2005, 02:22:27 AM
The missus is an absolute Bud & Terence nut and she has just ordered a (i think Danish) widescreen DVD from Ebay which the seller claims to be 6 minutes longer than the UK release and any other release!!!!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: indio on December 10, 2005, 11:58:32 AM
my dad used to take me to see bud and terance double bill movies when i was a kid, i loved 'em.
   they call me trinity is a no brainer but whats wrong with that ? i love it.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 11, 2005, 02:11:40 AM
I love it too Indio,and i'm lucky to be married to someone that enjoys a few of my SW's!
I'm a bit dubious about this extra 6 minute though ,although i trust and use the Ebay seller quite a lot.According to Hughes the uncut print runs to 106 minutes but i've looked up the Danish on-air-video DVD elsewhere where they give a running time of 109 minutes.Before i taped last Sundays version on itv4(not sure of running time here) i only had the crap Direct Source USA pan & scan version which with the slower NTSC running time is 109 minutes but i guess you would have to deduct about 5/6 minutes to allow for the 4% speed difference.There is an English widescreen version of both Trinitys on one DVD but the Ebay seller claims this has been cut,for the first film anyway!
My guess is that the DVD is at least 3 minutes longer but i'll have to wait and see!!!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Sundance on December 11, 2005, 06:11:56 AM
Based on the info I have been told, both Trinity movies are cut on the UK disc by over 5minutes. The Italian and Japanese discs are supposed to be cut as well, probably some also. Apparently has something to do with not by who has released the discs but because of someone who owns the rights for the movies.

The german discs and the danish discs might be completely uncut.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 11, 2005, 06:24:44 AM
Thanks Sundance,thats pretty re-assuring.I sat up to gone 1am in the morning last Sunday to tape Trinity of itv4 but i did drop off to sleep here and there.The Alex Cox intro showed the UK DVD sleeve and i assume this was the same version screened because i didn't remember any new footage!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on December 11, 2005, 09:49:34 AM
About the italian releases (that I didn't buy) I confirm  not only that they are cut, but that the f*ers put the missing scenes in the extra!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 11, 2005, 10:06:36 AM
I didn't think they did this in Italy,Titoli afterall you've always had the full version of GBU?
Does anyone know if the sequel Trinity Is Still My Name is also cut-perhaps i'll end up having to get a full version of that from Denmark as well?


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on December 11, 2005, 03:49:41 PM
About the cuts in both the Trinità dvd's (and other movies of the couple), help yourself:

http://www.budterence.tk/dvdtagliatitrinita.php

http://www.budterence.tk/dvdtagliaticontrinita.php


About our having the full version of GBU, yes. But the chicken scene was never there, neither in the theatre version I saw in the '70's nor in the version televised in the '80's with Leone's introduction. So I presume it was never meant to be there.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on December 12, 2005, 03:57:15 AM
Thanks Titoli,its crazy how the DVDs appear to be shorter than the videos.Wonder if its to do with the videos only being pan and scan or something?


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Scarabaeus on December 18, 2005, 02:47:59 PM
The german discs and the danish discs might be completely uncut.

I own the german e-m-s releases and the american (more specific: canadian) releases from direct source.

The german ones contain the german dub only, and are 1:49:05 and 1:52:48 (1:2.35 anamorphic). This translates to film- and NTSC lengths of 1:53:37 and 1:57:30 (PAL scans are 25 instead of 24 fps). The american versions are 1:49:55 and 1:57:15 (4:3 pan-scan). It seems that "they call me trinity" is short 3 and a half minutes, the second one is uncut. But the 4:3 scan of the american version is terrible.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Sundance on January 13, 2006, 12:52:46 PM
I have done some "research" on the Trinity Is Still My Name discs and...

e-m-s Germany: 1:52:48
Nouveaux UK:  1:47:15
Future Film Finland: 1:54:4x (This is probably the exact same version which the danish On Air has)

Italian disc is mentioned to be 107min plus it has about 7:53 worth of deleted scenes which would make the total be somewhere about 1:54:xx or 1:55:xx I guess...
So the length would suggest a pretty similar version than the scandinavian discs (when the deleted scenes are taken into account).

BUT... I'm not completely sure, but I think atleast some of the Italian deleted scenes aren't in the scandinavian discs.

AND FINALLY ;D

There is a bonus disc from e-m-s Germany from year 2003 (their Trinity Is Still My Name disc is from 2001) which has been sent out to people who had bought 8 certain Spencer&Hill discs and mailed coupons from those releases.
This bonus disc is said to have the original german theatrical release version from year 1972, taken from 16mm master...  with a length of 2:01:26 PAL without the end credits!
This would mean its almost 7minutes longer than the scandinavian disc (and italian disc with the deleted scenes put back in).
Film length for the Trinity Is Still My Name in IMDB is 117minutes, but the german Adria Filmverleih 25. Feb. 1972 release is marked at 127mins by www.ofdb.de
(127mins film speed is about 121min PAL speed)

I take no responsibility for any errors presented here.  ;D


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: mezcal on January 13, 2006, 05:50:40 PM
here are the finnish links, unfortunately its all finnish to me!
http://www.futurefilm.fi/dvd_leffakortti.php?id=1000451

http://www.futurefilm.fi/dvd_leffakortti.php?id=1000450
they seem to have a lot of terence hill films including my name is nobody
http://www.futurefilm.fi/haku.php.

i'm looking forward to receiving the uk 2-fer for its quality. i have no idea where the finnish dvds were sourced from or of their quality so will probably avoid unless am told otherwise.
ta


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on January 15, 2006, 04:09:16 AM

Future Film Finland: 1:54:4x (This is probably the exact same version which the danish On Air has)


I've just bought the Danish On-Air-Video dvd and confirm that its length is 1:54.
Interesting information about the bonus German disc Sundance ,but i suppose it would only have had a German audio?There is some rather crude editting at the beginning of the movie and its my guess that this is where much of the 7 minutes were cut!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Sundance on February 02, 2006, 08:59:51 AM
I can now confirm that the length of the Trinity Is Still My Name version on the bonus disc from e-m-s is over 2 hours and 1minute. And yeah Banjo, unfortunately only in german.

Can't say what scenes are missing from the other discs though.


mezcal, I think the UK disc is much better quality (although I'm not yet exactly sure!) than the scandinavian discs, so if you don't care much about the 5minutes worth of cuts on both movies, then I'd say it's best to get the UK disc.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on February 02, 2006, 06:10:20 PM
http://schnittberichte.com/index.php?ID=1335

Here they do explain (alas, Banjo, in german!) what the differences between the 2 german releases are. First time the movie was released in Germany it had a restriction to 16 yo minors. So they made in the early '80's a new version and dubbing with cuts which was subsequntly adopted for TV screenings and the normal dvd release. Strange thing though is that the sum of the cuts (if I have counted well those in the linked page) is a long way from the 20 minutes missing from the cut version.
As the version released on the big screen in Italy was 2h08' this might be a complete version, though I was reading an interview to the producer's daughter and she said that different editions were made at the time for the movie depending on the places of releases.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Sandman_USMC on February 05, 2006, 12:28:24 AM
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I have a question that may sound dumb, but is 'They Call Me Trinity' the sequel to 'My Name is Nobody'?  Are there (other) sequels to 'My Name is Nobody'?

Hello Il Buono, the answer is no.  Actually, Leone watched and admired the Trinity movies...and asked Terrence Hill to star in My Name is Nobody...which is a much more complex film.

I dug up the link below, which is an interview with Terence Hill from a couple of years ago.  It goes into quite significant detail about many of the questions people ask about his llife and his films.

He confirms that My Name is Nobody is indeed a Leone film.

http://www.terencehill.it/news_intervistaperugia_en.html

His official international web site is:  http://www.terencehill.com


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on February 05, 2006, 06:52:23 AM
mezcal, I think the UK disc is much better quality (although I'm not yet exactly sure!) than the scandinavian discs, so if you don't care much about the 5minutes worth of cuts on both movies, then I'd say it's best to get the UK disc.
The quality on both Danish DVD's isn't exactly stunning(a better widescreen print of They Call Me Trinity was shown on ITV4 recently and the audio on the Trinity Is Still My Name has a few minor noises in places) but very acceptable all the same especially with the extra footage!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: mezcal on February 05, 2006, 10:42:05 AM
I have yet to watch the uk trinity 2-fer dvd as i'm saving it for my birthday.
i did 'test' the dvd and had a huge smile on my face when i saw the excellent quality, which in this dvd age, is how things should be.
i did sneak a look at the extras and found the hill / spencer interviews very informative.
only minor thing i noticed is that page 2 og the hill filmography comes up as page 3, so i don't see his '70's films.
an excellent purchase though, well recommended!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Banjo on May 26, 2007, 04:31:36 PM
Arizona Colts review:-

THEY CALL ME TRINITY- 1970

-Hilarious comedy western starring Terence Hill and Bud Spencer who had teamed three years earlier in the much more serious GOD FORGIVES, I DON’T and its two lesser sequels. Here, they are an unlikely duo who must save some Mormons from a comically vicious bandit gang. Hill, who’s “…too busy doin’ nothin’”, steals the show at nearly every turn but leaves enough to Spencer to show off his Herculean strength with his one hit-knockout-over-under-hand fist. The double act featuring a lithe smart a** and a burly brute would prove extremely successful even more so in the sequel. Almost over night, dozens of (mostly) throw-away copycat movies (as only the Italians can do them) would surface varying wildly in quality.  Even the title was raped in various home-grown productions as well as films from the US and HK. A true classic in every sense of the word.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: moviesceleton on July 16, 2007, 08:58:10 AM
I liked it, but nothing special, that's why: 3/5. I really don't know what else to say about this film.

I'll be seeing some more Hill/Spencer movies soon (if I just remember to watch them).


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 16, 2007, 02:37:14 PM
I liked it, but nothing special, that's why: 3/5. I really don't know what else to say about this film.



Yeah it's very overrated. To this day I don't know what the appeal to these two films are.
The first one is okay but the sequel is just horrendous.
I prefer the two "Providence" films.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on July 16, 2007, 09:48:41 PM

Yeah it's very overrated. To this day I don't know what the appeal to these two films are.
The first one is okay but the sequel is just horrendous.
Maybe, but some parts are so funny that I still laugh my ass out just like the first time I saw them. I agree though that the second one is a bit overrated.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: moviesceleton on July 17, 2007, 09:12:33 AM
Maybe, but some parts are so funny that I still laugh my ass out just like the first time I saw them. I agree though that the second one is a bit overrated.
Sorry, but I laughed maybe only once. It was when the one settler (or what ever) yelled: "Hey brothers!" and the two were like: "How did he know we're brothers?"


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Tuco the ugly on July 17, 2007, 09:34:34 AM
Sorry, but I laughed maybe only once. It was when the one settler (or what ever) yelled: "Hey brothers!" and the two were like: "How did he know we're brothers?"
It's because you're 16 moviesceleton. I remember saying once here on the board that I had a (movie) blank point between 14 - 19. Only after I found again all those good old movies that I watched while I was a kid. And I'm not talking just about comedies with Bud Spencer & Terence Hill...


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: moviesceleton on July 17, 2007, 10:10:50 AM
It's because you're 16 moviesceleton. I remember saying once here on the board that I had a (movie) blank point between 14 - 19. Only after I found again all those good old movies that I watched while I was a kid. And I'm not talking just about comedies with Bud Spencer & Terence Hill...
Yeah, but I really wanted to like this movie. And I didn't say I didn't find any other parts funny at all; I think Monthy Python and The Holy Grail is one of the funniest movies ever made, but I still didn't laugh much when I watched it alone. but maybe I'll give this another go lets say after twenty years.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 17, 2007, 11:55:35 PM
Yeah, but I really wanted to like this movie. And I didn't say I didn't find any other parts funny at all; I think Monthy Python and The Holy Grail is one of the funniest movies ever made, but I still didn't laugh much when I watched it alone. but maybe I'll give this another go lets say after twenty years.

The movie is funny but I found most of the laughs coming from the dialogue rather than the physical humor.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: moviesceleton on July 18, 2007, 07:58:40 AM
The movie is funny but I found most of the laughs coming from the dialogue rather than the physical humor.
Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought too. I can like slapstick but in this movie I didn't.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: T.H. on February 04, 2010, 04:20:31 PM
Can't say I enjoyed this one too much, especially all scenes involving the Amish. Hill and Spencer have undeniably good chemistry but too much time is spent away from them and focused on secondary characters. I was just waiting for this one to end by the last half hour. It started on the right note and just slowly regressed into something forgettable. I didn't find it funny either. Stuff like Rushmore cracks me up, so I don't penalize the movie for it because I have a very dry sense of humor.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on February 04, 2010, 11:12:45 PM
Can't say I enjoyed this one too much, especially all scenes involving the Amish. Hill and Spencer have undeniably good chemistry but too much time is spent away from them and focused on secondary characters. I was just waiting for this one to end by the last half hour. It started on the right note and just slowly regressed into something forgettable. I didn't find it funny either. Stuff like Rushmore cracks me up, so I don't penalize the movie for it because I have a very dry sense of humor.


Despite all the hype they had almost 40 years ago, I never liked They Call me Trinity or its sequel They Still Call me Trinity: they are simply too stupid. However, I have always liked My Name is Nobody, a much superior movie in every aspect IMO.  O0.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: T.H. on February 05, 2010, 12:01:34 AM
Nobody is a great movie, though I can't stand the slapstick scenes. But I completely agree.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on March 01, 2010, 05:40:31 AM
Watched it again, and it's great fun. The chemistry among (all) the characters is outstanding, funny, funny, funny, even when it's not supposed to be. The first half has sooooo good lines and jokes, and the dubbing is actually awesome. Can you believe that? The second half has perhaps too much slapstick, but the music is great.

Bambino: (talking to Major's men) ...chicken rustlers...

Bandit: What did you say?

Bambino: (cocks his rifle (already pointed at the bandit's face)) - Chicken rustlers -


8 x (http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/happy/happy0008.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-evilgrin-smileys.php) / 10


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on October 07, 2010, 08:35:19 PM
This is Pedersoli before the movies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpnj_SoDaaw

Pedersoli took part in two olympic games. He was too lazy to train to win, says Girotti.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: mike siegel on October 08, 2010, 11:50:44 AM
Many thanks for that link !!
I have a couple of stills, never saw live footage of him during that time..

Carlo Pedersoli was Italy's Michael Phelps in the 50's , a real star.
Girotti was a fan of him and even trained in the same Roman club.

Girotti made a name for himself as a young man in Italian films
and later in Germany (Karl May films) so when they made DIO PERDONA, IO NO!
(God forgives..) they both were a bit uneasy about the fact, that they both
had to chose 'American' names - nobody would know that Pedersoli
and (the slightly lesser known) Girotti were the guys behind those new names.


TRINITA is a great picture. Although it marked the end of the SW,
it brought something new to it I wouldn't want to miss :)

I've seen the films only in German & Italian language - great dialogues
still working with audiences today. Still bestsellers over here (for 40 years now!
TRINITA 2 being the most successful theatrical release ever in Germany from
the late 60's until the TITANIC sailed away 20 years later! No JAWS or STAR WARS came near it.

 'don't really know whether this European humor works that well in other countries..


(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/peckinpah69/hill/rechtloca.jpg)
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/peckinpah69/hill/rechtedt.jpg)
(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/peckinpah69/hill/rechtefran.jpg)










Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: stanton on October 08, 2010, 12:05:58 PM
Still bestsellers over here (for 40 years now!
TRINITA 2 being the most successful theatrical release ever in Germany from
the late 60's until the TITANIC sailed away 20 years later! No JAWS or STAR WARS came near it.


Not according to this web site:

http://www.insidekino.com/DJahr/DAlltime100.htm

But at # 5 still very, very remarkable.

Even more interesting of all films OuTW was slightly better, and is still at # 3. Incredible for such a difficult film, which many people don't understand and/or are bored when they watch it for the first time.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on October 08, 2010, 12:59:02 PM
Carlo Pedersoli was Italy's Michael Phelps in the 50's , a real star.
Girotti was a fan of him and even trained in the same Roman club.

If I may add, even my uncle (then a teenager) trained at the same club (lazio) at the time: in facts he always refer to bud as "Carlo" (which is something nobody in Italy does).


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on October 08, 2010, 01:03:37 PM
Even more interesting of all films OuTW was slightly better, and is still at # 3. Incredible for such a difficult film, which many people don't understand and/or are bored when they watch it for the first time.

There was no home video at the time, no fast forward button: that must be taken into consideration.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: stanton on October 08, 2010, 01:06:39 PM
There was no home video at the time, no fast forward button: that must be taken into consideration.

I think I don't understand this.

With home video it wouldn't have been such a big success in Germany?


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: mike siegel on October 08, 2010, 03:45:32 PM
I guess I know what Titoli is referring to.
Yes, those were the days... (sometimes I'm afraid
to recommend milestones like BLOW UP, LAWRENCE or GBU & Co
to younger cinephiles - 'always being 'afraid' they might come back
to me with complaints ('too slow, too moody, slow editing...' and what have you :))

As for Box Office: I said UNTIL TITANIC, that eliminates
TITANIC & POTTER. I forgot about JUNGLE BOOK. Well it
looks I don't take Disney too serious in cinematic terms. Sooo sorry.
OUATITW & TRINITA 2: The numbers varied the last years.
They don't know for sure really. Those 'old' numbers dating
back before the mid 70's aren't manifested really.
Anyway, they're both close & top, Be it #2 or #3 ... (Thanks to Balou the bear)
And don't forget they made those numbers with 100 prints (more or less) ! Today
they have 600-800 !


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Novecento on October 08, 2010, 03:48:19 PM
This is Pedersoli before the movies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpnj_SoDaaw

Pedersoli took part in two olympic games. He was too lazy to train to win, says Girotti.

Nice link Titoli!


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Novecento on October 08, 2010, 03:55:33 PM
Carlo Pedersoli was Italy's Michael Phelps in the 50's , a real star.
Girotti was a fan of him and even trained in the same Roman club.

Girotti made a name for himself as a young man in Italian films
and later in Germany (Karl May films) so when they made DIO PERDONA, IO NO!
(God forgives..) they both were a bit uneasy about the fact, that they both
had to chose 'American' names - nobody would know that Pedersoli
and (the slightly lesser known) Girotti were the guys behind those new names.

Interesting point. It's weird how Girotti/Hill wasn't allowed to use his own voice in the English or Italian versions either! I'm not sure about the case with Pedersoli/Spencer.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on October 08, 2010, 04:41:19 PM
Interesting point. It's weird how Girotti/Hill wasn't allowed to use his own voice in the English or Italian versions either! I'm not sure about the case with Pedersoli/Spencer.

Actually it is even more strange that Girotti wasn't dubbing himself in german: he surely has an easier way with that language than italian. His mother was german and he lived a couple of his preteen years in Dresden. His vocal performances in his tv priest series are still poor: he sounds unnatural when he speaks italian, even though only an italian can be aware of it: a bit like Claudia Cardinale. What I didn't know (and learnt yesterday watching some german tv appearances of the duo, both together and on their own: check them) is that even Pedersoli can manage a bit of german and can understand it quite well. And he sure learnt diction (as some of his late performances, even in art movies, do prove). Hill has been living in USA for the last 30-40 years and I think english is the idiom he feels more at ease with.
But at the time of their success I think they were justly (and greatly) dubbed, at least in Italy.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on October 08, 2010, 04:52:15 PM
I think I don't understand this.

With home video it wouldn't have been such a big success in Germany?

I first went to see this movie in the second run cinema 2 minute walk from my home in 1969. I went with my father, mother and my kid brother and sister. Now, that is a scene you see nowadays only at Xmas and for kid movies. No family goes to see an adult movie, as far as I know, anymore. Because cinema, at the time, was the major form of entertainment: the technolgy of TV wasn't what it is today. And if you were interested in a film, your only chance was to catch it in a theatre. Or you could take your family to see a movie just as a way to pass an evening: which just doesn't happen today. With the introduction of vhs (which, we ridiculously forget, started being a mass phenomenon in the quite near half '80's) it is you who decide when to see a movie  and which one. On the other hand, at the time, I had the chance to watch the Leone's at the cinema 4-5 times each. The Leone's were first seen on tv in Italy only in the mid-eighties.
Still, the german box office result is impressive, comparable to that made in Paris where the movie ran for years.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: stanton on October 09, 2010, 01:36:28 AM


Anyway, they're both close & top, Be it #2 or #3 ... (Thanks to Balou the bear)
And don't forget they made those numbers with 100 prints (more or less) ! Today
they have 600-800 !

The number of prints are not important. In former times one print was shown much longer than today.
But the admissions for OuTW and the 2nd Trinity are from West-Germany alone, that's about 17 mio people less who could have watched it.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: mike siegel on October 09, 2010, 03:57:55 AM
Sorry, you're wrong here. The number of prints is of great importance.

A lot of todays so-called box office successes wouldn't stand a chance
if it wasn't for the big amount of prints. I mean we all know that, don't we?
That's Hollywood's tactic for decades now - start with as many prints as possible
and before word of mouth spreads out (that the film is RUBBISH) it is already
a success (Take the money and run).
I grew up in a cinema in the 70's - with us it was like that:
If the film reached his audience word of moth spread out and and
people were coming in to see it for weeks and weeks. (you wouldn't
see MACKENNAS GOLD or DR.DOOTLITTLE playing 27th week in Munich. :)
OUATITW on the other hand played three years here in my native Stuttgart -
during its 4th re-release 1982!)
I'm not saying that only the excellent films became successful that way (Sexploitation
case in point) but in general it wasn't as easy to make the big money for mediocre
films as it is today (hit & run).


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on October 09, 2010, 04:46:31 AM
This is Pedersoli before the movies:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpnj_SoDaaw

Pedersoli took part in two olympic games. He was too lazy to train to win, says Girotti.

WP says his career in swimming and water polo ''ended abruptly'' in 1957, when he was 27 or 28 - do you maybe know what's the story behind? Injuries?


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on October 09, 2010, 04:57:54 AM
http://www.insidekino.com/DJahr/DAlltime100.htm

What are you complaining about? Unlike most countries, you at least have OUATITW and Papillon in the Top 25. :D


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on October 09, 2010, 05:01:27 AM
Hey, and The Twelve Tasks of Asterix at number 35! O0


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: stanton on October 09, 2010, 05:19:15 AM
What are you complaining about? Unlike most countries, you at least have OUATITW and Papillon in the Top 25. :D

Was I complaining? I wasn't.

Papillon? Nothing special. Should be a better film. A good audience would have preferred The Getaway.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: stanton on October 09, 2010, 05:30:41 AM
Sorry, you're wrong here. The number of prints is of great importance.

A lot of todays so-called box office successes wouldn't stand a chance
if it wasn't for the big amount of prints. I mean we all know that, don't we?
That's Hollywood's tactic for decades now - start with as many prints as possible
and before word of mouth spreads out (that the film is RUBBISH) it is already
a success (Take the money and run).
I grew up in a cinema in the 70's - with us it was like that:
If the film reached his audience word of moth spread out and and
people were coming in to see it for weeks and weeks. (you wouldn't
see MACKENNAS GOLD or DR.DOOTLITTLE playing 27th week in Munich. :)
OUATITW on the other hand played three years here in my native Stuttgart -
during its 4th re-release 1982!)
I'm not saying that only the excellent films became successful that way (Sexploitation
case in point) but in general it wasn't as easy to make the big money for mediocre
films as it is today (hit & run).

Yes, but that only means that some films maybe made more money before people had realised that they are not the only ones who didn't like the film. But such films don't become big hits, neithe then nore now. Most likely Matrix 2 and 3 would have made less money with less copies. But big successes like Pretty Woman or Titanic or the (lousy) LotR films still need the word of mouth spread to become such high grossing films. Even big marketing campaigns couldn't avert that some expensive films became huge flops.



Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on October 09, 2010, 06:07:47 AM
Was I complaining? I wasn't.

Papillon? Nothing special. Should be a better film. A good audience would have preferred The Getaway.

Well I guess I'm not what you'd call a ''good audience'' then - I prefer Papillon over The Getaway any day of the week.

Speaking of prison dramas: epic - that's the only reason why The Great Escape is considered a better movie than Papillon.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on October 09, 2010, 07:05:50 AM
WP says his career in swimming and water polo ''ended abruptly'' in 1957, when he was 27 or 28 - do you maybe know what's the story behind? Injuries?

I think he left when he had to. He wasn't a trainingcoholic and he hadn't a chance at 30 for the next Olympics. i saw last month a movie made in 1957 featuring him in a small part (nobody, me included, guessed it was him) so he switched to movies almost immediately. I think, on the other hand, he could even afford to take his time as he married into money.




Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: mike siegel on October 09, 2010, 09:37:35 AM
But that was later.

When I researched for the booklets I wrote about the two I checked out all of his
interviews I could find:

He couldn't stand himself when he became a 'swim star'. On top of this success
he also made his Doctor (law) in 1956 and was 'on top of the world'. He was afraid of
becoming a spoiled person even he himself wouldn't like (arrogant etc.) so he totally
dropped out and went to South America to find himself (his parents had gone there after the
war to find new perspectives). He did construction work (Panamericana)
and worked for an Italian car dealer in Venezuala.
When he came back his character was 'stabilized' as he called it. He then married
Giuseppe Amato's daughter (producer of ROMA, CITTA APERTA, LADRI DI BICICLETTE,
UMBERTO D. , LA DOCE VITA) wrote some songs and started a small company
(TV promo & advertising).
He wasn't keen at all to appear in front of a camera again. It took Colizzi
a long time to persuade him into doing DIO PERDONA - IO NO!
(''Why should I go to dusty hot Spain when I make twice the amount
of money sitting here in my air conditioned office in Rome?'')

After the success of DIO PERDONA Carlo never looked back.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on October 09, 2010, 02:20:33 PM
But that was later.

When I researched for the booklets I wrote about the two I checked out all of his
interviews I could find:

He couldn't stand himself when he became a 'swim star'. On top of this success
he also made his Doctor (law) in 1956 and was 'on top of the world'. He was afraid of
becoming a spoiled person even he himself wouldn't like (arrogant etc.) so he totally
dropped out and went to South America to find himself (his parents had gone there after the
war to find new perspectives). He did construction work (Panamericana)
and worked for an Italian car dealer in Venezuala.
When he came back his character was 'stabilized' as he called it. He then married
Giuseppe Amato's daughter (producer of ROMA, CITTA APERTA, LADRI DI BICICLETTE,
UMBERTO D. , LA DOCE VITA) wrote some songs and started a small company
(TV promo & advertising).
He wasn't keen at all to appear in front of a camera again. It took Colizzi
a long time to persuade him into doing DIO PERDONA - IO NO!
(''Why should I go to dusty hot Spain when I make twice the amount
of money sitting here in my air conditioned office in Rome?'')

After the success of DIO PERDONA Carlo never looked back.

I never studied his CV, so what you say is probably true. But I have some doubt about his relationship to swimming. Listening to recent interviews to be found on youtube he sounds prouder of his sport achievements than those in cinema because the former where obtained only grace to himself. Still as those sport achievements hadn't meant a gold (or even bronze?) medal at the olympics, I'm inclined to think he realized that he couldn't achieve more of what he did: and that hadn't been the top of the world.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: mike siegel on October 09, 2010, 03:30:39 PM
Depends on the point of view :)
For some people (thank God) the 'top of the world' doesn't mean
that just the first place counts (maybe in todays societies public opinion)
but being a champion, a master in general (he was in Italy, unbeaten as far as I know)
and a 'star' or what have you.

Whatever happened, one thing is for sure: without Colizzi
Carlo Pedersoli would still be a (lesser known) former champion & 'Bud Spencer'
simply wouldn't exist.

(http://i953.photobucket.com/albums/ae15/peckinpah69/hill/vierbel.jpg)


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on October 10, 2010, 09:06:13 AM
Well I too never studied his CV and that's why I asked, but the impression I got reading between the lines was similar to titoli's: he was a good athlete, but mostly due to his uncommon physical qualities. As it's useless debating these things, who got something by birth and who didn't, this does not degrade his sports achievements at all - he was a great in his time, but it does speak in behalf of that theory - he was near 30, slowly tired of practices every day, and ready to dive into new waters. (He soon put on some weight too, didn't he?)

Though mike siegel is probably correct in another way: I too believe he was the more humble in the tandem, besides being a very smart and versatile individual.


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Novecento on October 12, 2010, 04:49:20 PM
But that was later.

When I researched for the booklets I wrote about the two I checked out all of his
interviews I could find:

He couldn't stand himself when he became a 'swim star'. On top of this success
he also made his Doctor (law) in 1956 and was 'on top of the world'. He was afraid of
becoming a spoiled person even he himself wouldn't like (arrogant etc.) so he totally
dropped out and went to South America to find himself (his parents had gone there after the
war to find new perspectives). He did construction work (Panamericana)
and worked for an Italian car dealer in Venezuala.
When he came back his character was 'stabilized' as he called it. He then married
Giuseppe Amato's daughter (producer of ROMA, CITTA APERTA, LADRI DI BICICLETTE,
UMBERTO D. , LA DOCE VITA) wrote some songs and started a small company
(TV promo & advertising).
He wasn't keen at all to appear in front of a camera again. It took Colizzi
a long time to persuade him into doing DIO PERDONA - IO NO!
(''Why should I go to dusty hot Spain when I make twice the amount
of money sitting here in my air conditioned office in Rome?'')

After the success of DIO PERDONA Carlo never looked back.

Interesting info Mike  O0


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on April 11, 2012, 08:15:30 PM
The belch:

compare the the italian version (5'43''):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ1t0t-WoFU

with the english

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Hz2Soki2g&feature=related

 ;D


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on April 12, 2012, 07:27:22 AM
quite a difference


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on April 12, 2012, 11:57:48 AM
Maybe the dubber wasn't up to the task...


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on April 12, 2012, 04:58:16 PM
 O0


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: titoli on December 30, 2015, 10:19:39 PM
Backstage stuff from Bud Spencer's facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/budspencerofficial/videos/438828586328441/?theater


Title: Re: Lo chiamavano Trinità... aka They Call Me Trinity (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on February 05, 2016, 09:40:35 AM
Backstage stuff from Bud Spencer's facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/budspencerofficial/videos/438828586328441/?theater

 O0