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Title: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Le Bon on April 10, 2005, 03:14:41 PM
Just found this movie at only 6 Euro... a snip... on the German Amazon site. Special Edition as well. Haven't seen it myself but it seems to be regarded as one of the better spaghetti's.
They also have Forgotten Pistolero at the same price.
Both have english audio.

http:/www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B000094TMT/ref=pd_sim_dp_1/028-2948196-7717344


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Marco Leone on April 11, 2005, 01:35:38 PM
Both are apparently good - got hold of copies a couple of weeks back, but haven't had a chance to view them yet.  Forgotten Pistolero has a veeeeery well known soundtrack.  I'd heard the music loads of times, but didn't know what it was from.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: bronsky on April 23, 2005, 01:17:52 PM
Bounty-Killer is good. Taken from the SWWB:
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17. Sabata                                                                           383    17
18. The Return of Ringo / Il ritorno di Ringo               373    17
19. If you meet Sartana,... / Se incontri Sartana... prega per la tua morte 324 13
20. Cemetary without Crosses / Une corde, un colt          315,5    13
21. Bounty Killer / Ugly ones / Precio de un hombre        306,5    17
22. Run man run / Corri uomo corri                306    16



Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Marco Leone on June 29, 2005, 02:20:16 PM
Yes, itssssss review time!

"This film was oh so close to nearly losing me. Maybe my attention span was limited - it had been a pretty tiring day after all (but thats another - and highly uninteresting - story!). But anyway, for pretty much the first third of the movie I was convinced that it was notable purely for being Tomas Milian's first foray into the Spaghetti Western genre that he is so renowned for (and rightly so).

Milian plays Jose Gomez, an outlaw treated with reverence by the small population that make up his hometown. He is freed from captivity by Eden (Zalewska), who looks at Gomez with wanting eyes, seeing him as a local hero. However, bounty hunter Luke Chilson (Wyler) is on his trail, and arrives at the town ahead of the escapee, to the wrath of the very protective townsfolk. When Gomez does arrive in town, with a group of bandits at the helm, the locals begin to experience that he is no longer the great man that they believed him to be, and begin to witness first hand why he has the bounty on his head.

Whilst the opening sequences are slow and stretched to near yawning point (even for me and, hey, I like slow films!), the second half of the movie more than makes up for it. The film really hits the heights as the locals witness the transformation of Gomez' character. Milian plays this role expertly, demonstrating clearly the promise that was to blossom fully in the very near future. Wyler's bounty hunter on the otherhand is far more restrained, yet apt for the character he portrays. There is also a fine supporting cast that includes Spaghetti favourites Mario Brega and Frank Brana, and a pretty powerful soundtrack provided by Cipriani.

All in all, I am relieved that I sat through the slow beginning, because the film does have so much going for it once it does get going. May day improved considerably. Well worth viewing".


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Marco Leone on June 30, 2005, 04:01:13 PM
Milian plays this character great.  Funnily enough, I was watching what I think was his second western tonight - Django Kill.  Its an excellent and weird little film that I seen a few times now, but perhaps Milian is a little lost in a stranger type role.  He is always at his best when there is a little humour.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Marco Leone on September 13, 2005, 01:11:49 PM
Nice write up, as always  ;D and I'm hoping you'll let me post it at the site again, to counteract my write up.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: titoli on August 16, 2006, 03:49:45 PM
The trailer makes it appetizing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ7mIdqkmGQ&mode=related&search=

Can I ask about the accent of the speaker? Does he pronounces all the final "s" as "z"?


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Groggy on August 16, 2006, 04:25:54 PM
Is this the one about Tuco's children?  Or is that "The Ugly Little Ones"?

(Sorry, couldn't resist. :P)


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: cigar joe on August 16, 2006, 04:34:06 PM
 ;D


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: titoli on August 16, 2006, 04:43:55 PM
No, this is about "The Ugly Onez".


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 17, 2006, 11:00:20 PM
"The Ugly ones" is good but not great.


"Forgotten Pistolero" was a complete bore. I'm the only one that seems to have a low opinion of this film though so dont take my word for it. to me the theme song is the only thing it has going for it.

The theme alone is probably better then anything Morricone has ever done for the western genre.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Banjo on May 26, 2007, 03:57:57 PM
Here's Arizona Colts review which i have to agree with.

BOUNTY KILLER, THE 1966-Boring and redundant early western with Tomas Milian as a villain. Donít remember much about it other than it allowed me some much needed sleep. In that it was an INSOMNIAC KILLER.



Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Arizona Colt on May 28, 2007, 12:09:45 PM
I'll have to give this one another spin in the 'ol DVD player. Haven't been getting much rest lately :D


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Banjo on May 28, 2007, 04:40:32 PM
I don't know if the official dvd has the same problem but my dupe sounds muffled so i have to whack up the volume to hear the overdubbing! :(

Similar to Four Of The Apocalypse its only Milian that makes this movie worthwhile.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Arizona Colt on May 29, 2007, 05:28:58 AM
The sound is clear on the DVD, it's just the movie that's awful.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on August 20, 2008, 12:00:27 PM
I won't give high marks to this movie. There are some interesting scenes at the beginning and towards the end, but most of the rest in between drags forewer and . The musical score from Stelvio Cipriani is OK. Not Milian's best role, but in fairness I don't think he could have done much better with the uninteresting script.

In summary, I found the movie boring, but watchable if you have nothing better to do. 5 out of 10.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: titoli on December 10, 2008, 05:04:32 PM
I think the movie is very good until Milian changes his personality and becomes an as...le for no apparent reason. He  plays without going over the top like it will happen in films to come, and he's not helped by the character. Still I think the movie is worth watching for the way it treats personalities and develops situations, much like an AW would do. If Milian change had been treated more subtly this could have earned even a 9\10 (I don't like the limey playing the bounty hunter). As it is it gets a 6\10.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 10, 2008, 05:25:18 PM
I think the movie is very good until Milian changes his personality and becomes an as...le for no apparent reason.

To me it felt like he was always a nasty guy which made me question why the good townsfolk liked him and protected him so much.
Had it been played as him being a kind and gentle bandit then later removing the facade I would have bought the motivation of the characters more.
I like the limey.
I like how he doesn't confront his adversaries head on but hides around and shoots them in the back.
Tony Anthony would perfect this formula a year later.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: Banjo on December 12, 2008, 06:00:01 AM
This movie always seems a bit flat for me though i like Milians performance.

Haven't watched it in ages but i never realised that Wyler was English.But he does seem a bit out of place in a sw and would fit better in an old fashioned Hollywood western,he probably has for all i know.  :-\


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: titoli on December 12, 2008, 09:00:10 AM
I think this movie should earn a remake, with a stronger plot about the way the main villain changes his character (FC, keep in mind how he had spared the lives of the two survivors in the initial shooting. Hadn't even thought about killing them for having heard the plans) or at least how he's shown as an as..le from the start though only privately. It is a wasted chance about the way a supportive folk, once it's embroiled directly, can see things differently about a outlaw hero. Something I never saw in a BTK or JJ gang.   
About the limey, he draws a diminutive figure, he's not imposing, as he should be, expecially in front of a Milian (who hadn't still developed his subsequent mimicry). His face is Ok, though.


Title: Re: The Ugly Ones aka El precio de un hombre (1967)
Post by: cigar joe on July 28, 2013, 02:53:03 PM
Saw this today, its Ok, nothing special and the score is decent. 6/10