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Title: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: cigar joe on August 21, 2005, 05:24:11 AM
Copied this (1966) flic from TMC the other night on a James Garner evening, James Garner, Sidney Poitier, Bibi Andersson, Dennis Weaver, in Southwest Arizona battilng Apaches. Story line, Anderssson a captive of the Apaches escapes and is found by Garner in the desert. Garner rescues here and brings her to town and her husband (Weaver) basically says "a respectable white woman would kill herself rather than be an Apache squaw". We find out she wasn't escaping from the Apache but from her husband back to the Apache (she left a son with them).

Garner is an ex scout, Poitier plays a ex cavalry horse breaker pimped out to look like a James West (of the Wild Wild West) clone in stretch pants frilly shirt etc. The film just didn't do it for me, its a good example of what AW's had become pre Leone this came out about the same time FOD & FAFDM hit the states, the music was forgetable, there were no iconic figures, its just a time filler. They showed a couple of hints at Apache fire tortures but if they had given these some full treatment it would have greatly strenghtened the film. One instance Weaver is tied to tilted wagon wheel under which a fire is built at the low end. The natives torture him by rotating the wheel turning various limbs and his head into the fire. All you get on the screen of all this  is Weavers shrieks through the night as Garner, Andersson,  Poitier and the cavalry detachment they are with are pinned down near by.


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: Beebs on August 21, 2005, 11:13:52 AM
I saw that too the other night but I was working the nextday so it was getting late.


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: dave jenkins on January 17, 2009, 07:50:12 PM
Free to stream here: http://www.hulu.com/watch/46783/duel-at-diablo


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 18, 2009, 06:42:13 PM
Decent. Only watch for the breathtaking aerial shot during the opening credits and the surprisingly gory finale.

5/10

The director's Soldier Blue is a superior film and his Wrath Of God is an interesting experiment.
Check those out instead.


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 19, 2009, 10:57:46 PM
Forgot to mention the main theme is excellent.


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 19, 2009, 11:15:53 PM
Forgot to mention the main theme is excellent.

I have the score on my iPod. One of the cues from the film was used in Chang Cheh's seminal, ONE ARMED SWORDSMAN (1967).


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 19, 2009, 11:17:43 PM
I have the score on my iPod. One of the cues from the film was used in Chang Cheh's seminal, ONE ARMED SWORDSMAN (1967).

Yeah, they have play it during the end credits I think. Great movie!


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 19, 2009, 11:23:31 PM
Yeah, they have play it during the end credits I think. Great movie!

No, they play it near the beginning after Jimmy Wang Yu has his arm severed and he's crawling, limping through the downpour of snow to find shelter before passing out. Chiao Chiao finds him in the snow and takes him to her home. I don't recall hearing it at the end, though. The cue I'm referring to (I don't remember the title of it right now) is at the beginning of DUEL AT DIABLO during the opening action scene with Garner.


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 19, 2009, 11:27:52 PM
No, they play it near the beginning after Jimmy Wang Yu has his arm severed and he's crawling, limping through the downpour of snow to find shelter before passing out. Chiao Chiao finds him in the snow and takes him to her home. I don't recall hearing it at the end, though. The cue I'm referring to (I don't remember the title of it right now) is at the beginning of DUEL AT DIABLO during the opening action scene with Garner.

I recall the music playing Wang Yu walking through a grassy plain and some red colored credits crawling to the top of the screen.


Here is the main theme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6HsLBio9ew&feature=related

and here is the main theme accompanied by a male vocal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyG3w3LBsWw&feature=related


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 19, 2009, 11:29:32 PM
I recall the music playing Wang Yu walking through a grassy plain and some red colored credits crawling to the top of the screen.


Here is the main theme

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6HsLBio9ew&feature=related

and here is the main theme accompanied by a male vocal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyG3w3LBsWw&feature=related

No, that aint it. Hold on. I'll scour my iPod to find it.


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 19, 2009, 11:31:30 PM
I'm poppin' in the dvd now.


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 19, 2009, 11:33:22 PM
I'm poppin' in the dvd now.

It's FLIGHT AT DIABLO PASS/DUST TO DUST. That's the cue. I know which one it is as I've seen OAS several times.  ;D


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 19, 2009, 11:35:13 PM
It's FLIGHT AT DIABLO PASS/DUST TO DUST. That's the cue. I know which one it is as I've seen OAS several times.  ;D

Well I was right about the grassy ending but not the song.


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: Arizona Colt on January 19, 2009, 11:36:51 PM
Here's the original trailer with that cue in the trailer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPYIvgeazT0&feature=related


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: uncknown on December 05, 2009, 06:38:19 PM
I was surprised thatthis film was made before the DOLLARS films were released in the USA.
It has the feel of a post-Spaghetti Western in its gritty and unsentimental view of the West, and being shot entirely on location.
I especially like James garner's hard-nosed character. I have never seen him better, or TOUGHER.

one of the best American made westerns of its era!


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: cigar joe on December 06, 2009, 03:59:50 AM
Its major fault is somebody should have pulled Sidney Poitier aside and given him something else to wear, he comes off looking way way too much like a stereotypical pimp rather than just cool, he's a horse wrangler by profession not a gambler, they should have had him just well dressed not flamboyant. Check out Buck & The Preacher for a comparison of costume. Now something in between those would have been more realistic.

But you know its part of the time period where things were overdone,  look at almost any Western with a black protagonist, Sammy Davis Jr., Jim Brown, Fred Williamson, ect., etc. they are almost all a little much.


Title: Re: Duel at Diablo (1966)
Post by: titoli on April 13, 2010, 07:03:34 AM
And Poitier, after two days fighting and running in the desert should have at least his shirt not immaculate...
Anyway this movie has great outdoor scenes, on a big screen they are really something to gape at. The minuses are the Andersson-Weaver story and the score which is good but most of the times doesn't fit with the images (expecially during the indian camp scenes: Hefti probably never saw a western before this one in his life). A pity, anyway I give it 7\10.