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Films of Sergio Leone => The Good, The Bad and The Ugly => Topic started by: sadhill on September 21, 2005, 01:51:04 PM



Title: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: sadhill on September 21, 2005, 01:51:04 PM
There has been a lot of discussion on the boards about the poncho, its holes and  its color. Here are some screen grabs that show several things. First the series of gunshot holes. These were actual holes as seen in AFOD, Eastwood wears the poncho with the holes over his heart. In the next movies he wears it backwards but not flipped (topside/underside) and the holes are seen on the rear right shoulder area. This was also a good way for Eastwood to know exactly how to wear it the same way in each scene.
(https://s11.postimg.org/75ozivrm7/ponchoholes.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/75ozivrm7/)

(http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3344/ponchoholes0ll.jpg)
(https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/10/16/ponchoholes.jpg)
 The orginal color does appear to be green, and since Eastwood wears the poncho the same way every time, with the sunshine bleaching it out, fading, never washing it, and dirty it turns brown over the next movies. You can  clearly see this in the GBU when the poncho is flipped over his shoulder. The underside still retains its green color.
(https://s11.postimg.org/7txu1tqbz/gbubrowngreen.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/7txu1tqbz/)

(http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/3089/gbubrowngreen9uh.jpg)
(https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/10/16/gbubrowngreen.jpg)

p.s.  In AFOD the holes are seen before the final shootout with Ramone, when Joe gets paid by Don Miguel.  Eastwood wears the poncho backwords and tries to cover up the holes with the saddle bag slung over this shoulder. They probably shot this scene after filming the ending shootout. (not a nit-pick!  Just info on the shooting sequence of this movie)
(https://s11.postimg.org/iqukcunpr/afodhole.jpg) (https://postimg.org/image/iqukcunpr/)

(http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/2647/afodhole4zd.jpg)
(https://www.imageupload.co.uk/images/2015/10/16/afodhole.jpg)



Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: Jordan Krug on September 21, 2005, 02:30:36 PM
Great, perceptive detective work! Well done- you pointed out a few things I never noticed, and I thought I'd noticed everything!



Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: iceman on September 21, 2005, 04:17:32 PM
Change your name from Sadhill to Sherlock Holmes. Pretty Cool detective work this ..well done.

ICE


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: cigar joe on September 21, 2005, 05:07:40 PM
Its great having board members who do their homework.


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: Cusser on September 21, 2005, 06:05:41 PM
Nice job, that explains why the poncho now appears brown at the museum exhibit.  Yes, the sewn-up bullet-holes are present and visible in the exhibited poncho at the museum.


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: Beebs on September 21, 2005, 08:04:03 PM
"Bravo."



Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: HEX on September 23, 2005, 07:27:43 PM
well done  sir

i am sure it was elementary for u( ironically enough the line "elementary my dear watson elementary" is never said by sherlock holmes in any of the books. wonder how that got to be is most famous catch phrase without even saying it? perhaps the films they used it? but that is another story for an entirly different forum.) ;D


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: sadhill on September 24, 2005, 05:56:03 PM
Thanks for the compliments guys! Here is another shot showing the holes just after Blondie first finds the poncho!
(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7351/blondiepicksupponcho4iq.jpg)


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: Jordan Krug on September 24, 2005, 08:18:41 PM
And a still which shows the holes quite clearly....


http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=clinteli8gl.jpg


Thanks for the compliments guys! Here is another shot showing the holes just after Blondie first finds the poncho!
(http://img391.imageshack.us/img391/7351/blondiepicksupponcho4iq.jpg)


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: il brutto on September 26, 2005, 09:01:23 AM
Great job indeed! Also the saddle bag seems to be the same in FOD and FAFDM(see the pictures with the boy and don miguel). Any clue of its presence in GBU?


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: The Man With A Hand Brace on November 12, 2005, 04:16:48 PM

I thought I saw everything in these movies.

I can't believe I've never noticed any holes until now.

Well done!


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: Juan Miranda on November 12, 2005, 05:44:38 PM
I've read this thread about Clint's threads a few times now, and I've gotta say Sadhill, it's great stuff. One of the things that makes using the internet such a surprising pleasure.


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: The Man With A Hand Brace on November 13, 2005, 07:46:05 AM

Long live the Internet!  :)


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: marmota-b on July 25, 2006, 05:07:05 AM
Great work! I knew about holes on the back side of the poncho, I noticed them in GBU, but your explanation of the colour is excellent. And nice stills.


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: titoli on July 25, 2006, 07:13:44 AM
I had forgotten to include my compliments in the thread. Better late than never.


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: The Firecracker on July 25, 2006, 11:53:53 PM
anybody notice the discoloration on the back of the Poncho during the last two dollars films? Its brown from the back but green from the front. But its all green in FOD.

does the sun do this?


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: marmota-b on July 26, 2006, 09:01:19 AM
Hm, I didn't notice it, I only noticed, that, though it seemed brown on pictures I have seen, it was something like olive green in the film... again, I hope it's the right word, olive...  ???


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: The Firecracker on July 26, 2006, 11:55:26 AM
Hm, I didn't notice it, I only noticed, that, though it seemed brown on pictures I have seen, it was something like olive green in the film... again, I hope it's the right word, olive...  ???
olive green is a fine description.


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: BirAvucDolarIcin on April 23, 2017, 02:59:31 PM
good work, what a shame, i could not see them bullet holes, I thought I got eagle eyes:)


Title: Re: The Poncho! Holes and color.... pictures.
Post by: Cusser on April 24, 2017, 01:00:29 PM
good work, what a shame, i could not see them bullet holes, I thought I got eagle eyes:)

Maybe you have Angel Eyes !!!