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Title: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: Franks Harmonica on October 20, 2005, 11:21:48 PM
Anyone here ever seen this early SW titled Duello Nel Texas AKA Gunfight at Redsands.
From 1963, it stars Richard Harrison and Aldo Sambrell and has some good reviews on IMDB.
I found a 16mm film print and was wondering if anyone here can recommend this film before I drop a fistful of duckets on it.


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on November 02, 2005, 11:42:42 AM
I haven't seen it yet.... .......but, is the 16mm a widescreen copy?
Found a VHS version here-->
http://www.somethingweird.com/cart.php?target=product&product_id=21263&category_id=103

which is most likely fullscreen..but I don't know for sure...
(I've noticed other widescreen VHS at this site.)


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on November 10, 2005, 06:36:08 PM
I've seen it now, & I'd recommend it... but I would NOT spend a lot of $$ on a 16mm print. What does the seller want for it?
It's interesting......but it's really a PRE-Spaghetti Western....in tone... & spirit....dramatically & musically. It has more in common with the Hollywood knockoffs produced in Italy pre '64...but SW devotees will definitely notice & appreciate the elements of future films that are there.
I'll have a review...my take on it... posted on these boards soon.


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: Franks Harmonica on November 12, 2005, 05:15:05 AM
Well, the print went over for $200.00, so I decided to pass on the print, as it was not a scope print anyway.
 I did however pick up a cinemascope print of Tom Horn for $61.00 and nobody else even bid on it!
Suckers


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on November 17, 2005, 10:03:36 PM
Gunfight At Red Sands (Duello Nel Texas) (1963) 

                                                                      (http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dal98ton/bilder/redsands.jpg)
Cast:
Richard Harrison
Giacomo Rossi-Stuart
Sara Lezana
Daniel Martín 
Sam Field   
Aldo Sambrell

Directed by:
Ricardo Blasco
Original Music by Ennio Morricone   (as Dan Savio)
Musical Director:
Ennio Morricone ....  (as Leo Nichols)  --> (Bruno Nicolai?)
Cinematography by Massimo Dallamano

1963...Sergio Leone had done 1 film as credited director..."Colossus of Rhodes"..; Clint Eastwood was still best known as "Rowdy Yates" on "Rawhide".
Duello Nel Texas was released in Italy in Sept. 1963...Filmed in Northern Spain....using the set that would later be used as the town in FOD & FAFDM.
Ricardo Blasco ..directed 8 other films..a couple of Zorro movies...most of his work was as Second Unit Director or Assistant Director.
Massimo Dallamano, the cinematographer, went on to be director of photography on both Fistful and FAFDM.

Richard Harrison..had appeared in 1 previous "pre-spaghetti" Western..."El Sabor de la Venganza" (1963) (Gunfight at High Noon (USA) )....& went on to play Ringo in "$100,000 for Ringo"....Rocco in "Vengeance" (.Joko invoca Dio e muori).. & starred in "I'll Forgive You, Before I Kill You" ....  .."Aquasanta Joe" & others.
Gunfight at Red Sands is also noteworthy for being the first Italian Western to feature a Ennio Morricone score...& if my instincts are correct......a collaboration w/ Bruno Nicolai.

Harrison is Ricardo..a/k/a "Gringo"......who returns from an unsuccessful campaign fighting w/ guerillas in Mexico...& now just wants peace.......to discover that his adoptive father has been killed & the family's gold stolen.
So he's gotta..avenge his father..& get the gold back.

This is Harrison without the stubble..not quite the antihero...an avenger...but  not "The Stranger"...although he has been away for 4 years.

As for Ennio Morricone's first Western score.....parts of it are quite nice...others are just...OK...Hollywood-style stuff, as requested by the film's producers. ..Of course, early Morricone is very interesting...the title song (A Gringo Like Me) is a different version than the one that's become somewhat familiar...an earlier version w/ a different vocalist.
He is also credited as musical director under the name of "Leo Nichols"...which for me is too close to Bruno Nicolai..that I suspect that to be a mistake..& Nicolai to be the true musical director.

The Italian Western was still very much an American Western imitation..but we see the SWlike quirk here & there..a lot of "roots" of what was to come in many films....the weird villain type (giggling..twitching guy)............& there's gold..mexican revolutionaries...a corrupt sheffif who hates Mexicans....more than a few killings..a couple of not very well done fistfights..a final showdown that's OK.......minor red herrings & misdirection..pretty straightforward.
Good bit early..the shootout w/ the Federales...although it does come off as too theatrical.
Check out the scene early on when a jeep drives by in the background.
Rest of the cast ranges from pretty awful to pretty good... nice turn by Sara Lezana as Lisa..who gets to show off some action chops that a year later became traditionally not done in SW.

Gunfight At Red Sands is really a PRE-Spaghetti Western....in tone... & spirit....dramatically & musically. It has more in common with the Hollywood knockoffs produced in Italy pre '64...but SW devotees will definitely notice & appreciate the elements of future films that are there...
 
The style hadn't arrived yet......nor the twinkle in the eye..but something quite unique and wonderful was just about to be born.

Spaghetti Western? Maybe an Antipasto Western.

Postscript:
I've heard that there is a Japanese DVD....Running Time: 92mins.
in the proper aspect Ratio(s): LB VistaVision...  Italian Audio Track w/ Japanese Subtitles .
Apart from that.. just Full Screen VHS.










 


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 19, 2005, 12:09:36 PM
Thanks for the review Angel. I would love to check this film out, sounds a lot like Texas Adios in the way that its more American in style.


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on May 03, 2006, 12:20:07 AM
I would love to check this film out

I would be more than happy to help you out...PM me if you like, :)


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 03, 2006, 11:26:58 AM
Couldnt sit through this clunker.

Maybe its because I have the worst transfer imaginable. I'll have to see what I can do about that in the future...


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: titoli on January 13, 2007, 06:44:33 PM
Well, I have seen this:

http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/pistole-discutono-western-collection-p-10895.html

The movie fares not badly, as there's a solid screenplay (well, at least more solid than most of the genre). But of course nobody here has any idea about what is going to happen a year later. Well, Morricone, in parts knows. Everybody here seems to like "A Gringo Like Me" and rightly so (though the initial vamp is a blatant M7 rip-off). And there's a lot of good music interspersed everywhere (even a deguello). So why Leone didn't seem to appreciate the fine work made by the Maestro? Partly because he wasn't a music connoisseur, as we know; but, fundamentally, because he just wanted something different, couldn't care less if Morricone could guarantee him the best of scores but in a traditional line. That goes to show, for the umpteeth time, that Leone knew what he was doing all along.


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: Banjo on January 15, 2007, 02:19:14 AM
Couldnt sit through this clunker.

Maybe its because I have the worst transfer imaginable. I'll have to see what I can do about that in the future...
I think i have the same very poor transfer but i sat through this last night and enjoyed it very much including some good action.Best of all was hearing some generic Morricone-some of it American in sytle but some of the lovely melodies are unmistakably Morricone.


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: titoli on January 15, 2007, 06:41:24 AM
Banjo is right. As for Bullets don't Argue there's, in incidental music, two or three tune in pure Morricone style. That's what I also meant when pointing at Leone musical incompetence: that he wasn't able to grab what innovations were in Morricone's smaller bits (or his monumental work as arranger he had started from 1960 on and which had come full blown in 1962). This is a soundtrack I wouldn't mind to own.


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: The Firecracker on August 06, 2008, 07:11:22 PM
These people should be ashamed of themselves...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8exQPz6nwpY&feature=related


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on February 21, 2009, 03:15:31 PM
Some kind soul uploaded Gunfight at Red Sands to YouTube  O0. Not a great copy (seems to come from an old print), but worth watching. The movie is a pre-Leone SW, and not bad at all. Don't forget to watch for the car perfectly visible in the background 4:12 minutes into the movie.  ;D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FrmhLP-pqQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZdWpni6Ph4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp7jOI_hx_4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lXykyB7lTE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7YvYD4SFM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08s75nCqoSw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCDaxfteHvw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Otb6tv-h9Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBYRACS8eAM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAbR4HAH80&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j_mGX9nBbg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZVHxNRXAHc&feature=related


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: The Firecracker on February 22, 2009, 02:32:35 AM
Some kind soul uploaded Gunfight at Red Sands to YouTube  O0. Not a great copy (seems to come from an old print), but worth watching. The movie is a pre-Leone SW, and not bad at all. Don't forget to watch for the car perfectly visible in the background 4:12 minutes into the movie.  ;D



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FrmhLP-pqQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZdWpni6Ph4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zp7jOI_hx_4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lXykyB7lTE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ7YvYD4SFM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08s75nCqoSw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCDaxfteHvw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Otb6tv-h9Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBYRACS8eAM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMAbR4HAH80&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j_mGX9nBbg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZVHxNRXAHc&feature=related

That's the same as my dvd. Not worth watching like that.
I now have a more pristine version so I'll defo give it a try.


Title: Re: Gunfight at Red Sands aka Duello nel Texas (1963)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on February 22, 2009, 03:46:04 PM
That's the same as my dvd. Not worth watching like that.
I now have a more pristine version so I'll defo give it a try.

You maybe right, but at least you can watch it for free. Then if you really like it, you can always try to get hold of a better version for your collection.  :)