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Title: Long Live Your Death
Post by: indio on November 11, 2005, 07:29:21 AM
i love franco but i've not seen this one. i have the chance to buy it, does anyone one know if its worth seeing i know it has Eli Wallach in it. thats all i know.
help someone! (marco/banjo/cigar joe/hex)!!!


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: HEX on November 11, 2005, 07:38:15 AM
i love franco but i've not seen this one. i have the chance to buy it, does anyone one know if its worth seeing i know it has Eli Wallach in it. thats all i know.
help someone! (marco/banjo/cigar joe/hex)!!!

for a second there i thought this was some weird occult thing wishing for his death. ;D ;D ;D



http://www.witchinghourvideo.com


click on the nude women on the tomb then look for westerns. it will have a vague description. but a description non the less.

but i have warned u before INDIO, it is best to no very little about movies so u can be pleasently surprised.
i know u are not a child and do not need to be told what to do, iam just giving u some friendly advice that is all. even i am probably wasting my time, by the time i finish writing this u are halfway to the site ;D ;D.




Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: HEX on November 11, 2005, 08:12:11 AM
also i just saw that the same site i mentioned above is selling copies of SONG OF THE SOUTH the lost disney film
about an ex-slave who tells stories of BRER RABBIT, BRER FOX and BRER BEAR.

disney has never given it a proper release if any. it has been to scared to release it due to the slave issues(of which i am sure no one is gonna say anything even if the film is released, but disney is disney).

if u are not sure what this movie is it inspired the famous MAGIC KINGDOM attaction SPLASH MOUNTAIN, which can be found in DISNEY WORLD and DISNEYLAND(the one in LA. not sure if the ride resides in disneyland PARIS or TOKYO). also the famous disney song ZIP-BA-DI-DOO-DA(sorry if incorrect title but u know the song) is from this film.

so interesting stuff if youre into it. i know ill be buyin.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on November 11, 2005, 08:20:50 AM
I say definately buy this Indio if you are like myself a big fan of Franco Nero and Eli Wallach and it took me quite a while to get a copy of Ebay (USA vhs under the alternate title "Don't Turn The Other Cheek" ).This movie is  directed by Duccio Tessari(who also made the Guiliano Gemma Ringo films) and is very much along the same lines stylistically as Corbucci's mercenary type classics albeit in an even more light-hearted vein but not quite upto the same class as those two greats.
Instead of a Polish/Swedish mercenary Nero here plays a Russian Prince mercenary hunting after hidden gold,the location of which is found tatooed on two Mexicans behinds.He is aided by Wallach as a (quite similar to Tuco)peasant who is mistaken as revolutionary El Salvador and together they are pursued by the likes of Eduardo Fajardo(again a General here!) and Lynn Redgrave as a slightly annoying Irish journalist.
I re-iterate if you are at all mad about Companeros/Mercenary then this is a must buy


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: HEX on November 11, 2005, 08:22:51 AM

Russian Prince mercenary hunting after hidden gold,the location of which is found tatooed on two Mexicans behinds.

reminds me of the STRANGER AND THE GUNFIGHTER with LVC.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on November 11, 2005, 08:25:23 AM
Hex,what is that photograph?,its SCARY!!!


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on November 11, 2005, 08:47:30 AM
And there are some rather nice (female) behinds on my Stranger & The Gunfighter video,Hex!!
Does anybody know if the DVD version Blood Money,which looking at Amazon UK has a slightly smaller running time than my vhs ,has all the bum footage intact as my vhs is ex-rental and has seen better days!


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: HEX on November 11, 2005, 08:56:50 AM
Hex,what is that photograph?,its SCARY!!!

it is the cult comic book hero JONAH HEX.
he is a bit unrecognizable in the picture i got but it is him. if u dont know about JONAH HEX well...


THE BACKGROUND OF JONAH HEX 101

JONAH HEX is a comic book hero by DC COMICS (the guys who brought u superman AND batman). the comic follows the story of JONAH HEX, a badass bounty hunter.
the comic is heavily influenced by the spahetti western, because of its rough violence, situations and weird villians. JONAH himself has gone through every hardship pretty much imaginable, from emotional to physical.in fact the creators made it a point to make HEX the most unlucky bastard in the west. he is constantly being beaten or tortured. in pretty much all the covers of the comic he is seen in great mortal peril, giving u an idea that this is not youre average comic hero. and a different twist to the comic is that main characters would die every so often in the comic, and they would stay dead. after awhile the comic started getting itno weird territory having HEX fight the supernatural and even traveling to the future(  ;D  chuckles ;D). but the comic(from the ones i own) is a must have for spag fans.


the comic ended abruptly in one comic which killed HEX off :'(. it was a very different because he did not go out guns blazing he just got shot while playing poker(some bandit got the drop on him) the rest of the comic is about what happened to the body, which ended up stuffed at a carnival exhibit but was later destroyed due to rain.


most recently they brought HEX back in an all new comic
called TWO GUN MOJO.which i hear tell is wonderful and weird.

i even read a script of the film for JONAH HEX but it never got off the ground. it involved JONAH after outlaws that actually werewolves who want to resurrecct dead confederate soldiers to have a legion of undead soldiers rekindle the civil war.



the comic was wonderful. i only have a few issues and i wish to get more. i buy them at a local comic shop which sells the old ones as cheapo 1 dollar comics(a shame)



the character also appeared in a BATMAN cartoon when BATMAN goes back in time to the old west for some reason(i think the joker sends him there, i havent seen it only read about it).


and i just read that there is a band from ENGLAND and BRIGHTON with the same name. i dont know whether it is a coencidence or they just ripped off the name, or maybe paying homage to it(which is another way of saying stole it) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: HEX on November 11, 2005, 09:14:18 AM
And there are some rather nice (female) behinds on my Stranger & The Gunfighter video,Hex!!
Does anybody know if the DVD version Blood Money,which looking at Amazon UK has a slightly smaller running time than my vhs ,has all the bum footage intact as my vhs is ex-rental and has seen better days!


i know u have a policy of not buying on dvd spags u already have, but if and when u get the chance they sell a good looking copy with all the nudity at

www.xploitedcinema.com


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: indio on November 12, 2005, 12:19:16 AM
thats hex the site was helpful. banjo you convinced me.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Marco Leone on November 12, 2005, 12:14:31 PM
Hi Indio, I've not been about for a few days, so haven't been able to comment.  But I would concur with Banjo's recommendation.  Nero and Wallach are great in it, although Redgrave is highly irritating throughout (its the accent).

There are some great scenes throughout, but it definately doesn't reach the high standards of Companeros or Professional Gun (which I watched the first time the other day and will scribe my thoughts shortly).  If you enjoyed both those films though, you'll enjoy Long Live Your Death also.  ;D


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: riotengine on November 12, 2005, 01:52:00 PM

the character also appeared in a BATMAN cartoon when BATMAN goes back in time to the old west for some reason(i think the joker sends him there, i havent seen it only read about it).



Regarding Batman: The Animated Series; Actually, it was a flashback episode that featured Jonah Hex battling the Batman adversary, Ras Al Ghul in the old west. Batman was more-or-less, a supporting character in the episode. It was really a Jonah Hex story.

Hex was also featured in a recent Justice League Unlimited Episode that also include classic DC western heroes, Bat Lash, Pow Wow Smith, and El Diablo. That one was definitely a time-travel episode.

DC also a sci-fi version of Jonah Hex, where he gets whisked away to the far future and does his bounty-hunting there. This futuristic Hex series didn't last too long. There is actually a reference made to this in the JLU episode.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: HEX on November 12, 2005, 02:43:42 PM
Regarding Batman: The Animated Series; Actually, it was a flashback episode that featured Jonah Hex battling the Batman adversary, Ras Al Ghul in the old west. Batman was more-or-less, a supporting character in the episode. It was really a Jonah Hex story.

Hex was also featured in a recent Justice League Unlimited Episode that also include classic DC western heroes, Bat Lash, Pow Wow Smith, and El Diablo. That one was definitely a time-travel episode.

DC also a sci-fi version of Jonah Hex, where he gets whisked away to the far future and does his bounty-hunting there. This futuristic Hex series didn't last too long. There is actually a reference made to this in the JLU episode.




yeah that was pretty much when the series was at an end.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on November 14, 2005, 03:13:38 AM
Hex,i'm glad you've decided to get Long Live Your Death.I didn't mention this film is also set during the Mexican Revolution and has some similar set pieces to Corbucci's mercenary movies.My USA version has an amusing cartoon opening credit sequence with a pair of sombrero-wearing bottoms swaying to the theme of Don't Turn The Other Cheek!
Hex thanks for the info about your picture and the LVC DVD.I've now relaxed my policy of not rebuying SW's i already own.After taping last nights Django Kill my collection is round about 80 and apart from a handful,i have pretty much all the major SW titles.Some of my favourites i only have on VHS and i will replace on dvd if i see them reasonably priced!


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: indio on November 14, 2005, 09:34:07 AM
Banjo apart from leone which are your favorites?


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on November 15, 2005, 03:00:19 AM
I like  all 3 Sollima westerns,Corbucci's 3 Nero films+Great Silence,Petroni's Death Rides a Horse & Tepepa,Sabata series,Sartana series and the odd comedy SW.I also tend to go for certain actors like Van Cleef,Milian,Hilton,Garko,Berger and Nero.
What about you Indio?


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: indio on November 16, 2005, 12:25:11 AM
yeah milian, nero and berger are favs. face to face, companeros i think i've watched the most. i am fond of bullet for the general too i love G M volante.
Nero used to be my favorite but i think milian now i never stopped loving volante.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on November 16, 2005, 05:14:27 AM
I really like those 3 SW's too,and i find it quite puzzling that Face to Face hardly ever crops up in peoples top ten SW lists!


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: indio on November 16, 2005, 10:06:03 AM
you right that is strange, i just think the character development is one of the best and come on milian, volante and berger!!!!


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Marco Leone on November 17, 2005, 06:21:43 AM
It certainly makes its way into my Top Ten (no 9!).  ;D


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: boardwalk_angel on June 25, 2006, 05:26:29 PM
i find it quite puzzling that Face to Face hardly ever crops up in peoples top ten SW lists!

It's #6 for me....(#1 non-Leone SW)


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: The Peacemaker on June 25, 2006, 05:40:10 PM
It's #6 for me....(#1 non-Leone SW)

So then what's your favorite spaghetti?


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: boardwalk_angel on June 25, 2006, 05:52:25 PM
So then what's your favorite spaghetti?

GBU is my #1....sometimes Once Upon A Time In The West is #1...depending on my mood.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: The Peacemaker on June 25, 2006, 05:55:46 PM
I think everyone can tell but my favorite is OUATITW. I had no interest in westerns or film until I saw that movie. From then on, I wanted to make movies and watch as many of them as I can.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Franks Harmonica on January 28, 2007, 08:59:02 PM
I just purchased a cinemscope 16mm print of this film! Its my first SW film print, so I am looking forward to seeing this.
Ive never seen it, so I'm curious who here has seen it ..... even in Pan n Scan?


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: The Firecracker on January 28, 2007, 09:11:11 PM
I just purchased a cinemscope 16mm print of this film! Its my first SW film print, so I am looking forward to seeing this.
Ive never seen it, so I'm curious who here has seen it ..... even in Pan n Scan?



very good film, your a lucky man.


Tessari's best spag next to the classic "Pistol for Ringo".


It has similarities to Corbucci's "Companeros". Franco Nero plays another european who teams up with another wily mexican partner (this time played by Wallach) in the search for gold. Hot on their trail is a disfigured villain and his band of cronies.


If only Corbucci directed and Palance played the villian with the spinal problem this could have been a masterpeice. But what we have is pure gold anyway!


My print suffers from segments being in german with no subtitles though.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on January 29, 2007, 08:49:30 AM
I have the same version as Firecracker but yes its a brilliant sw O0


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: titoli on January 29, 2007, 05:36:49 PM
Released in Italy this very week on dvd in a series of SW's sold as companion pieces to a weekly magazine.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: The Firecracker on January 29, 2007, 07:49:10 PM
Released in Italy this very week on dvd in a series of SW's sold as companion pieces to a weekly magazine.


If you got it how is the transfer?


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: titoli on January 30, 2007, 01:50:11 AM
No, I haven't got it yet but on italian forums opinions on the master vary from very good to excellent.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on January 30, 2007, 03:22:56 AM
Released in Italy this very week on dvd in a series of SW's sold as companion pieces to a weekly magazine.
Don't suppose it contains an English audio or even subtitles?


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on May 26, 2007, 08:41:01 AM
Arizona Colts review:-

LONG LIVE YOUR DEATH from Duccio Tessari is another classic from the man. It stars Franco Nero, Eli Wallach and Lynn Redgrave in this comedy-action feature about a search for hidden gold with the map tattooed on two mexican mens behinds(sounds familiar). Tessaris movies seem to always have very good scripts filled with witty banter and this is no exception.  I couldn't find anything wrong with this movie at all other than the playful atmosphere is upset on a couple of occasions by some violent action(of which only the aftermath is shown). An unusual and surprising amount of foul language is present and the film has a great ending. Horst Janson the actor who ruined CAPTAIN KRONOS VAMPIRE HUNTER plays the villainous sheriff who is second fiddle to the evil general of the federales  and is thankfully in very little of the movie. This is the uncut version at 96 minutes and the picture quality is good but sadly fullscreen. A legit DVD is crying out for release. Highly recommended.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: The Firecracker on May 26, 2007, 01:14:01 PM
This is the uncut version at 96 minutes

Mine runs at 105 minutes.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Arizona Colt on May 28, 2007, 12:13:14 PM
Mine runs at 105 minutes.

That's what the Eurotrash guy said. Remember what I told you about pirates? That's an old review from me anyway before you told me of the one with the german scenes.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on May 28, 2007, 04:42:44 PM
This is definately one of a handful that i'm dying to see a decent uncut widescreen English version.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: titoli on July 16, 2007, 03:30:37 AM
I've finally watched the italian release and concur on the quality of the print as being very good. Also, the time runs at 112'. Which also does explain my first comment on the movie itself: it never ends. This is a "you saw it all before" movie. One could have a field day showing where you saw that element or plot turn before. Still, maybe, the more interesting fact about it is that Wallach plays a kind of (can you hear me, Dave Jenkins?) Juan role, rather than Tuco. If I am right, then Leone was lucky to have Steiger instead of him because Wallach is not at all brilliant in this, almost seems to be playing under sedatives and even the good dubber Carlo Romano (who dubbed Tuco, Juan and Jerry Lewis) can't redeem his performance. While Nero (one of my all-time unfavourite actors) comes off quite good playing the character devised for him by Corbucci. Lynn Redgrave is not good-looking, still I'm sure that had been Corbucci directing we'd have been graced with more of her skin. That would have partially redeemed her performance, still I wonder what was she doing at all in movies. If you saw the Corbucci movies, this is superfluous. If you haven't, you might even give it a 6\10.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: titoli on July 16, 2007, 03:41:16 AM
At the italian Swdb they give the running time at 110':

http://www.spaghettiwestern.altervista.org/nero3.htm



Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: titoli on July 16, 2007, 03:56:20 AM
I've just checked the IMDB for Lynn Redgrave (I should have done this before, yeah) and saw that she was Georgy. So my elucubrations about her were unneeded. Still I wonder why she was given the role in Tessari's.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on November 14, 2008, 03:27:24 PM
At first glance, it would appear that this SW had all the ingredients for success: Tessari, Franco Nero, Eli Wallach, Lynn Redgrave, and a musical score from Gianni Ferrio. And yet, I would describe it as mediocre at best.

It would appear that Tessari clipped a few bits from the GBU script, a few more from Compaņeros, some more from Il Mercenario, then concocted them together into Long Live Your Death (Viva la muerte....tua, also released in Germany as Zwei Wilde Compaņeros), hoping to get a good product. Personally, I don't think he succeeded. I cannot see the type of chemistry between Nero and Milian in Compaņeros taking place between Nero and Wallach. Also, many of the scenes are too stupid even to be included in a SW; for example, the repeated number of times that Eli kills several soldiers at the time with one single shot; or the moronic behaviour of General Huerta (Eduardo Fajardo) with Lynn Redgrave.

A Morricone score might have helped (or not) to make this movie salvageable.

In summary, a watchable but lesser SW, especially when we consider who are the actors and the director.

5 out of 10.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on November 21, 2008, 05:57:29 AM
At the italian Swdb they give the running time at 110':

http://www.spaghettiwestern.altervista.org/nero3.htm



The Italian audio version you sent to me runs at 112 minutes Titoli.

The main difference between this and my English version is the extended talky scene between Nero and Wallach in jail and the two 7/8 minute segments which Firecracker referered to earlier which he and i had in German.

As it stands i'd rate this as 8 out of 10 but if a fully uncut  English version emerges (maybe with subtitles like COMPANEROS) then from what i've judged from the extra footage in Italian probably 9 out 10 and very likely in my top 20 sw's. O0  



Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: stanton on November 21, 2008, 12:43:54 PM
Ok spag, not more, not less.

Tessari directs well enough, but he's no match for Corbucci, who probably had made a better film out of this unoriginal script.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on November 21, 2008, 01:10:14 PM
Ok spag, not more, not less.

Tessari directs well enough, but he's no match for Corbucci, who probably had made a better film out of this unoriginal script.

I agree with your evaluation of the movie. Perhaps my score of 5 out of 10 was a bit on the low side, but I think the movie could have been much better when considering the actors. I would blame it on the direction and lack of a musical score at the level of Compaņeros or The Mercenary. In any case, I think that giving the movie an 8 to 9 out of 10 is way too high.

I will go the extra mile and watch it again in a few days, just to see if I missed somthing.  ;)


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: titoli on November 21, 2008, 01:53:26 PM
The Italian audio version you sent to me runs at 112 minutes Titoli.

I had already reported this, man.  ::) And made a comment about it.  :P



Quote
As it stands i'd rate this as 8 out of 10 but if a fully uncut  English version emerges (maybe with subtitles like COMPANEROS) then from what i've judged from the extra footage in Italian probably 9 out 10 and very likely in my top 20 sw's. O0 

I think England's victories under Fab's managing make you lose any contact with reality. :'( You must return to this movie after you'll have lost a match. >:D


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Arizona Colt on November 21, 2008, 03:11:01 PM
I don't remember much about it at the moment (only saw it once), but I remember liking it quite a bit at the time. I think I still have that bootleg lying around somewhere.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on November 22, 2008, 06:30:02 AM
I think England's victories under Fab's managing make you lose any contact with reality. :'( You must return to this movie after you'll have lost a match. >:D

Maybe that's why we have a couple of Germans posters (whose team usually never lose) claiming that BOOT HILL is a work of genius. ;D
 


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on May 05, 2009, 05:11:15 AM
Just preordered the new Wildeast dvd of this which is available from the 19th May. :D

 http://www.wildeast.net/catalog1.html

Hopefully it will be as fully uncut as is claimed though i'm curious about the alternate title DON'T TURN THE OTHER CHEEK.I wonder if this means that this will include the animated bare bottoms opening credits sequence instead of the Franco Nero wedding sequence?

I'd prefer the latter. 


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Tuco the ugly on May 05, 2009, 07:26:15 AM
Uh, 20 bucks for dubious quality... You're brave, Banjo.


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: The Firecracker on May 05, 2009, 03:48:19 PM
Just preordered the new Wildeast dvd of this which is available from the 19th May. :D

 http://www.wildeast.net/catalog1.html

Hopefully it will be as fully uncut as is claimed though i'm curious about the alternate title DON'T TURN THE OTHER CHEEK.I wonder if this means that this will include the animated bare bottoms opening credits sequence instead of the Franco Nero wedding sequence?

I'd prefer the latter. 


The dancing ass cartoon removes the Nero wedding scene?
So what does it cut to? Will the Nero wedding scene be in motion as opposed to stills?


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on May 06, 2009, 04:01:16 AM

The dancing ass cartoon removes the Nero wedding scene?
So what does it cut to? Will the Nero wedding scene be in motion as opposed to stills?

I've got the pan and scan USA video of CHEEK and following the cartoon asses it cuts straight to Nero's car arriving and being shot up by the bandits.

I've have two versions of LONG LIVE YOUR DEATH,one the same as yours with the other being a Greek dvd which also has the wedding stills.

Tuco,i'm not too worried about the quality(Wildeast are usually dependable)  just so long as it is uncut as i'm fed up watching 15 minutes of it in German or Italian without any English subtitles. 


Title: Re: Long Live Your Death
Post by: Banjo on May 19, 2009, 12:11:15 PM
I received the Wildeast DON'T TURN THE OTHER CHEEK dvd today.I'm pleased to report that it is fully uncut with English subs now provided for 17 minutes of Italian audio footage.Whilst there are some imperfections in the widescreen print overall it's pretty good.

There are plenty of extra's including a 20 minute Eli Wallach interview from 2008 where he discusses all of his four sw's and the dancing asses credit sequence! :D 

I'm well pleased with it. O0