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Title: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Amaze on November 11, 2005, 09:54:07 AM
is it just me or is this the worst soundtrack morricone did for leone? I love the music in the other films, but this one did grab me at all.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Juan Miranda on November 11, 2005, 11:56:02 AM
There's certainly less music than the other Leone's, but I don't think it's quality is any worse. The beautiful, nostalghic track MESA VERDE is a mini-masterpiece, and IL FIGLI MORTE is one the best things I think he ever wrote. All the more curiously effective due to it's incongrously jaunty rythm strummed on a banjo, counterpointed by a deeply mournful oboe.

It also has the curious MARCIA DEGLI ACCATTONI, which features burping and segues into Mozart's EINE KLINE NACHT MUZIC of all things. Very avant guard.

His theme for Ruiz is fine in the film, but is unlistinable on it's own, but I find the "jazz" tracks from OUATIA have a similar effect. I assume it's this soundtrack you are refering to Hex, and no, the YESTERDAY muzak is not on the album.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: HEX on November 11, 2005, 12:32:47 PM
whoops. earlier i wrote that i agreed  with this being the worst MORRICONE soundtrack of all the movies he did with LEONE. my mistake i thought i was on the AMERICA board. ;D

no way the soundtrack for DUCK U SUCKER is wonderful!
and probably one of the best of leones movies in my opinion.


as for  AMERICA to me that is the most limited of the soundtracks. i only like the main theme.



Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: SeanSeanSean on November 11, 2005, 05:37:36 PM
I beg to differ... greatly.
This soundtrack is my favorite Morricone/Leone score. The main title being my favorite with after the explosion a close second. Replay them in the car all the time. After 35 years, I don't tire of it.
I just recently found de CD with help from a board member so I could finally put my frying old vinyl from the 70's  to rest.
Last tidbit: I read somewhere that Morricone played the main theme at Leone's funeral...If true?... can't be all bad


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Juan Miranda on November 11, 2005, 06:10:24 PM
Just ignore the previous post to SeanSeanSean's. This dickless wanker has bombarded me with insulting PM's since it first attacked the board a couple of days ago under the name of "harpo", and I'm sure it will carry on trolling here for while yet. Trolls thrive on attention, so just ignore the little bitch and it'll vanish off back under it's bridge.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: dave jenkins on November 11, 2005, 10:24:22 PM
Let me add to the consensus: the soundtrack for DYS is not Morricone's worst for Leone. Quite possibly, it is his best; at any rate, it is my favorite.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Groggy on November 12, 2005, 05:29:53 PM
I don't have the soundtrack, though it's on my "to-get" list.  I love the Main Theme and think "March of the Beggars" is weird in a good way, but I can't comment on the incidental music outside of what I heard in the movie.

As for Hex saying that OUATIA's soundtrack was Morricone's worst. . . three words: you are a fool!  ;)


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: HEX on November 12, 2005, 06:56:21 PM
I don't have the soundtrack, though it's on my "to-get" list.  I love the Main Theme and think "March of the Beggars" is weird in a good way, but I can't comment on the incidental music outside of what I heard in the movie.

As for Hex saying that OUATIA's soundtrack was Morricone's worst. . . three words: you are a fool!  ;)


u sir are the fool!


i can think of only one piece of music in AMERICA that got to me. and it was the main theme. other then that i thought it did its job but it was about average.

as for DUCK U SUCKER

the main theme
MARCH OF THE BEGGARS
and MESA VERDE are great.


and anyways GROGGY when the hell did u become a communist? it is my opinion. ;D


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: grandpa_chum on November 13, 2005, 12:30:35 AM
Now I can't say i have the luxury of actually listening to whole soundtracks, like on cd, but as far as the actual sound track in the movie, as is... duck you sucker is definitely one of my favorite leone/morricone works music wise, and ditto on the movie as a whole... It is tough to choose a worse, but if I had to I'd probably say America or FAFDM, simply because they each have parts I love and parts I hate, the other 4 leone/morricone musical works don't have one track I don't at least like.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Groggy on November 13, 2005, 06:09:04 AM
OUATIA is arguably Morricone's best work (at least for Leone), with the possible exception of OUATITW.  The Main Title, "Deborah's Theme", "Poverty", "Friendship & Love", the string "Amapola" remix, most definitely "Cockeye's Theme", and even the incidental music (particularly "Speakeasy" and the Chief Aiello theme on the Suite) is all spectacular.  I don't see how you can say that it's one of the worst.  But obviously, it's a matter of opinion.

I love ALL of Morricone's scores for Leone, even his for FOD, a film which I'm not particularly fond of, and I think all of them deserve their place as classics of the genre.  So, I don't think I could name what I think is "the worst", maybe the "least great" (which would be either FOD or FAFDM).  But you're not going to get me to bad-mouth Ennio either way.  :P


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: HEX on November 13, 2005, 09:34:10 AM
OUATIA is arguably Morricone's best work (at least for Leone), with the possible exception of OUATITW.  The Main Title, "Deborah's Theme", "Poverty", "Friendship & Love", the string "Amapola" remix, most definitely "Cockeye's Theme", and even the incidental music (particularly "Speakeasy" and the Chief Aiello theme on the Suite) is all spectacular.  I don't see how you can say that it's one of the worst.  But obviously, it's a matter of opinion.

I love ALL of Morricone's scores for Leone, even his for FOD, a film which I'm not particularly fond of, and I think all of them deserve their place as classics of the genre.  So, I don't think I could name what I think is "the worst", maybe the "least great" (which would be either FOD or FAFDM).  But you're not going to get me to bad-mouth Ennio either way.  :P


who is bad mouthing ENNIO? when i said the "worst" i did not mean it was horrible. AMERICA'S soundtrack is one of the best soundrack i have ever heard to a film.
but in my opinion i like his western soundtracks better. just because to me it sounds more romantic. i am cheesy that way. ;D


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Smoker on November 13, 2005, 10:33:59 AM
is it just me or is this the worst soundtrack morricone did for leone? I love the music in the other films, but this one did grab me at all.

:smoker shakes his head:
The music may of been under used in the film. Not in the same marrage as previous Leone/Morricone work.
I hadn't even seen the film when i got hold of a vinyl copy of the Giu La Testa soundtrack. It was one of the best 2 sided 40mins ive ever listen to. 'Invention John' is sublime. no other word for it.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Groggy on November 13, 2005, 03:46:19 PM

who is bad mouthing ENNIO? when i said the "worst" i did not mean it was horrible. AMERICA'S soundtrack is one of the best soundrack i have ever heard to a film.
but in my opinion i like his western soundtracks better. just because to me it sounds more romantic. i am cheesy that way. ;D

Well okay, Hex.  I didn't say you were badmouthing him, I was just saying I can't bring myself to saying that any of his Leone scores were "the worst".  Now, though I do hear that he had one or two bad non-Leone soundtracks, I must admit I'm not an expert in that field.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Banjo on November 15, 2005, 08:42:50 AM
Personally i feel DYS is easily Morricones best soundtrack in all genres and OUATIA is also wonderful and very moving!


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: hello on November 15, 2005, 10:01:02 AM
i have not seen the movie but i already own the soundtrack and i really dont like it.


is this a comedy? from the music it seems like it.
i dont like the farting stuff and the playfulness of the music.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Smoker on November 15, 2005, 10:16:43 AM
i have not seen the movie but i already own the soundtrack and i really dont like it.


is this a comedy? from the music it seems like it.
i dont like the farting stuff and the playfulness of the music.

I asume you mean 'March of the beggars'

It works for the scene. Juan keeps opening the gold vaults only to be presented with fleeing captive rebels.  The music intensifices as Juan get more desparate as the 'penny slowly drops' that Mesa Verde is not bank in the conventional term, but is now a make shift prison. 


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Banjo on November 16, 2005, 05:59:36 AM
Hi hello,i think if you manage to get a look at this great movie, you opinions about the music may very well change!


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: HEX on November 16, 2005, 04:52:07 PM
Hi hello,i think if you manage to get a look at this great movie, you opinions about the music may very well change!


BANJO i believe HELLO was A VERY NICE GUY. he had a particularly nasty post for my SW COLLECTION thread. then he deleted himself. so i imagine it was him. anyway he is gone now.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: J B on November 20, 2005, 09:17:13 PM
In my opinion, the music to all of Leone's movies is a huge reason why they are all so great.  I dare say if it wasn't for Ennio Morricone, I might not have ever posted in this forum.  A Fistful of Dynamite is no exception.  I love the quirky jazzy music in the flashback scenes.  Really strange, but totally wonderful at the same time.  It sort of reminds me of the music that Burt Bacharach wrote for Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.  (And the Butch Cassidy soundtrack kind of reminds me of OUATITW).

As for the score to OUATIA, I think it's so good that it sort of saved the movie for me.  My first reaction after seeing it was that I wasn't to sure how much I liked it, but the music was one thing I was sure about.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Banjo on November 21, 2005, 05:03:03 AM
I must say that i have to agree with JB.Ennio Morricone holds one very big key to the greatness of not only Leones westerns but also many other SW's made by his contempories.
Can you imagine FAFDM without the pocket watch theme,GBU without the Ectasy of Gold or OUATITW without Harmonica's theme?


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Smoker on November 28, 2005, 12:17:11 PM
Extactly Banjo, an integral part of the films. Its always been a complete mystery why nobodys done a isolated score track on a Leone DVD release.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 28, 2005, 02:37:08 PM
Why I don't think its his worst soundtrack, I personally wasn't overkeen on his score for The Big Gundown


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: dave jenkins on November 28, 2005, 07:49:16 PM
Well, the singer doing the Run, Man, Run song at the beginning isn't very good, but that's not Morricone's fault.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 29, 2005, 04:16:37 AM
Isn't that Tomas Milian?


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: HEX on November 29, 2005, 09:51:29 AM
 ;D ;D ;D yes it is.


blame TOMAS


according to the review on the dvd for RUN MAN RUN he said he was "not ready" that day. and that all he did was scream out the lyrics. and it shows. but i liked it.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 29, 2005, 11:13:31 AM
Didn't he have a band as well for a short time?


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: HEX on November 29, 2005, 11:17:16 AM
Didn't he have a band as well for a short time?

yes he mentions it on a bonus(easter egg) interview in the DJANGO KILL dvd.

with an ego the size of MILIAN'S the band was naturally called.....THE TOMAS MILIAN BAND! ;D


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on November 29, 2005, 11:20:59 AM
I thought I had seen it on the easter egg. He's a funny guy  ;D. I loved the bit where hes talking about how he told the taxman about everything he owned!  ;D


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: HEX on November 29, 2005, 11:36:54 AM
I thought I had seen it on the easter egg. He's a funny guy  ;D. I loved the bit where hes talking about how he told the taxman about everything he owned!  ;D


he is very sympatheco ;D ;)


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Banjo on December 02, 2005, 03:08:38 AM
I thought I had seen it on the easter egg. He's a funny guy  ;D. I loved the bit where hes talking about how he told the taxman about everything he owned!  ;D
There's an easter egg on the DVD?-will have to look for this!
Dave Jenkins,i think its a great performance by Milian on the Run Man Run title track and its fitting that he performs it.He may not be the best of singers,but my favourite artists can't sing for toffee either -Dylan,Neil Young,Lou Reed,John Lydon-but they have their own distinct twangs.There's nothing worse than a trained voice-who wants to sound like everybody else?
Milian sings from the heart,in his own voice,and with attitude-what more do you want?


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 02, 2005, 06:21:32 AM
Here's the Easter Eggs for Blue Undergrounds Release of Django Kill

There are actually 3 easter eggs on the "Django Kill" DVD.
#1 From the Main Menu select "Languages/Subtitles"
On that menu, scroll down to "Resume".
Click up
A pistol icon appears, select it.
You get an interview with Tomas Milian describing how he was almost intentinally killed by crew members on the set of the movie because they did not like his politics and his attitude.
#2 On the Main Menu scroll up to "chapter Selections"
Click Right
The hand in the artwork is highlighted, select it
You get an interview with Tomas Milian and a co-star, Ray Lovelock describing how they started a rock band.
# 3 On the "extras" Menu, scroll down to "Main Menu"
Click left
A pistol icon appears, select it.
You get 3 spaghetti western trailers: "Django", "Run Man Run", "A Man Called Blade"

Here's The Easter Eggs for Run Man Run

There are also 3 Easter Eggs I found. The knife that Donal O'Brien holds on the main menu page can be highlighted scroll over Play but scroll LEFT); an invisible knife can be highlighted across Cuchillo's face in the chapters page (scroll to Main Menu then push UP); an extra trailers selection can be highlighted in the extras page (scroll to Main Menu and scroll LEFT

Hope this helps for the moment banjo!


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Banjo on December 04, 2005, 01:36:48 AM
Thanks for the Run Man Run Easter Egg tip.Blimey i thought this DVD was already burstng at the seams with extras!


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 04, 2005, 05:47:35 AM
Yes it is pretty packed. It's a shame Blue Underground have no plans to release any more spaghetti's at present.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Banjo on December 04, 2005, 09:02:33 AM
Maybe there ought to be a thread guide to Easter Eggs on DVDs!
Do you think its odd that the Region 2 DVDs never have these but the USA Region 1's do?


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 04, 2005, 11:57:39 AM
UK DVD's do have easter eggs. The Red Dwarf DVDs are absolutely loaded with them, but I know what you mean about R1's having more. Mention easter eggs to people over here regarding DVD's and they tend to give you blank stares.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Banjo on December 05, 2005, 06:53:43 AM
The only UK dvd's i have are SE FOD,SE FAFDM,SE DYS,The Great Silence,This is Spinal Tap SE and The Exorcist SE and if there are Easter Eggs present i've yet to find them!!!


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 05, 2005, 09:23:20 AM
banjo are you big collector of DVD's or just spaghetti's?


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Smoker on December 05, 2005, 09:58:19 AM
Maybe there ought to be a thread guide to Easter Eggs on DVDs!
Do you think its odd that the Region 2 DVDs never have these but the USA Region 1's do?

Its a disk space thing i think. Region 2 UK dvds tend to be full to the gills with lots of different euro languages. Which replaces the hidden goodies, in a straight fight.




Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 05, 2005, 12:31:02 PM
Its funny with the umpteen Subtitle and Language choices the UK has compared to many other countries. I wonder if the studios over here just wanted to fill them up. Criterions for instance actually needed to fill up some space for their releases and therefore embedded in some of their discs are docos and even other films!


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Smoker on December 05, 2005, 01:02:06 PM
Most of the biggies Fox and MGM are just stationed in Europe. they just send one master to a factory in a country, change the menu titles and your away. Paramount don't even bother. They get you to do it yourself with a blue menu. Hence why the R2 OUTITW was missing a mono soundtrack.

The worst flippin problem is when your trying to move backwards and forwards from a film track and commentry just to get little insites. you have to go through 'French>Spanish>German>Polish>Italian>Klingon and were back again...'.Region 2 of Fargo is one that springs to mind.

Last years Media Blasters version of Fulci's Zombie Flesh Eaters cracked me up.. It had like 7 different audio settings. Mono, Stereo, Digital 5.1, 2.0 etc etc. All sounded the same to me..  ::)


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: dave jenkins on December 05, 2005, 04:21:51 PM
Dave Jenkins,i think its a great performance by Milian on the Run Man Run title track and its fitting that he performs it.He may not be the best of singers,but my favourite artists can't sing for toffee either -Dylan,Neil Young,Lou Reed,John Lydon-but they have their own distinct twangs.There's nothing worse than a trained voice-who wants to sound like everybody else?
Milian sings from the heart,in his own voice,and with attitude-what more do you want?
You've misunderstood me. I was talking about the song which opens The Big Gundown which is called "Run, Man, Run" and is sung by a woman (I think she calls herself Christy).


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Banjo on December 08, 2005, 08:37:05 AM
Sorry Dave Jenkins,however i also find Christys rendition very rousing especially when that wonderful string accompaniment kicks in!


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 08, 2005, 09:17:58 AM
Yes Christy does murder that song, I think my family thought the DVD had caught fire or something when they heard it.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: cigar joe on December 08, 2005, 03:20:17 PM
I think she's singing phonetically, gives it a spooky surreallistic quality, I actually like it, lol, she also sings the song "Mexico" at the end of Petroni's Tepepa.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Banjo on December 09, 2005, 12:58:54 AM
I totally agree Cigar Joe about Run Man Run.I didn't know Christy also sung Mexico(i have this track on cd btw but i'm not sure its in the cut Blood & Guns version) in Tepepa which funnily enough i'm not all that keen on myself!!


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Firecracker on May 15, 2006, 02:24:40 AM
is it just me or is this the worst soundtrack morricone did for leone?


no, it's just you. ;D


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The clint on May 15, 2006, 07:16:40 AM
There's no worst, when it comes to the soundtracks morricone did for Leone. This is by far the most experimental, but it's also beautiful, amazing, stirring and atmospheric.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 15, 2006, 05:09:19 PM
There's no worst, when it comes to the soundtracks morricone did for Leone. This is by far the most experimental, but it's also beautiful, amazing, stirring and atmospheric.

I love the music in DYS. It's the 2nd best score Morricone did for Leone ( backseat to OUATITW ).

I got 2 copys of the soundtrack, Giu La Testa and a CD that contains a different variation of the main theme. My favorite is the main theme. I know many people find the sean, sean, sean to be a bit repetitive, but I love it when the lush violins come in.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Firecracker on May 15, 2006, 05:10:38 PM
It's the 2nd best score Morricone did for Leone ( backseat to OUATITW ).




hardly.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: franksgrandson on May 15, 2006, 05:19:36 PM
for me the soundtrack is the best part of this film a wonderful score by Morricone and in a lot of ways the music saves the movie.
The movie is not the best of Leone although its still miles better than America.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 15, 2006, 05:20:44 PM
for me the soundtrack is the best part of this film a wonderful score by Morricone and in a lot of ways the music saves the movie.
The movie is not the best of Leone although its still miles better than America.

You don't like OUATIA?


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Firecracker on May 15, 2006, 05:22:14 PM
for me the soundtrack is the best part of this film a wonderful score by Morricone and in a lot of ways the music saves the movie.
The movie is not the best of Leone although its still miles better than America.

while Morricone's score enhances "Duck you Sucker" I dont think it saves it. The film doesnt need saving. It is Leone's best in my opinion.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: geoman-1 on May 23, 2006, 04:44:24 PM
I feel the DYS soundtrack is one of Morricone's finest work.  It melds perfectly with the scenes and created the moods Leone wanted to project.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: The Peacemaker on May 23, 2006, 04:46:21 PM
I feel the DYS soundtrack is one of Morricone's finest work.  It melds perfectly with the scenes and created the moods Leone wanted to project.

Well put.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: mike siegel on November 13, 2006, 02:58:03 PM
It's my favorite Morricone recording as well.
THE DEAD SONS I'll have at my funeral.
(or maybe 'Why had he millions and lived for 90 years..?)

GIU LA TESTA is so underrated. It's good it got better over the years. I still think of that Leone Interview from the mid-70's when he said: 'when I discipline my young son for doing something wrong, he runs from me, turms around and yells: ''papa, Giu La Testa stinks!''. I tell you, he knows how to hurt you!'

I love films about the Mex revolution and together with QUIEN SABE? GIU is the best entry. I also love MERCENARIO and CORRI UOMO CORRI. But GIU is a level above. Beautiful paced, great mood, PERFECT soundtrack. More character, character development, emotion and  politics than in the previous films, so it was an important step for Leone I think.
But the whole situation in the early 70's was a bit difficult for Leone, he was used being the champ.
Sorry Serge, nobody stays on top forever (not even Peckinpah :)


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: cigar joe on November 13, 2006, 03:40:59 PM
Quote
I love films about the Mex revolution and together with QUIEN SABE? GIU is the best entry. I also love MERCENARIO and CORRI UOMO CORRI. But GIU is a level above. Beautiful paced, great mood, PERFECT soundtrack. More character, character development, emotion and  politics than in the previous films, so it was an important step for Leone I think.

Here is a Zapata Thread that's been dormant for a while but feel free to comment and add to it.

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1529.msg13311#msg13311


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Prabal on July 06, 2012, 02:11:08 AM
This is my favourite soundtrack.... I am listening to  "Invenzione per John"(my favourite) as I type...The melancholy theme is also beautiful piece of music.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: drinkanddestroy on July 09, 2012, 12:05:45 PM
THE GOOD:
The main title theme of DYS is one of the greatest songs ever written. There are other great songs as well, including:
Invenzione Per John (the song that plays over the opening credits, as the stagecoach drives by);
I Figli Morti (the first minute is a re-working of the main Sean theme; the rest is the haunting melody that plays when Juan is distraught  over the death of his sons in the cave;
and Mesa Verde (the melancholy song that plays as Juan arrives in Mesa Verde, and realizes that this ain't the Mesa Verde of his dreams; and Dopo L'esplosione (which is another arrangement of one of the songs I mentioned above); and as I mentioned, the music that plays during the flashbacks, the Sean theme, is great.

THE BAD:Amore (the song that plays during Juan's sexual encounter with the woman from the stagecoach) may be the worst song of Leone's cinema;
I don't like the Marcia Degli Accattoni (even though it's funny how Morricone sticks the opening of Eine Kleine Nachtmusik in there  ;D)
and the burping sounds that are the opening bars of some tracks, "wah, wah wah wah," arranged at various different points with what sounds like a low-pitched wind instrument, a male voice, and some other weird instrument which I do not recognize  (it's at 0:22 of this trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THn36Mwmv7U )

The DYS songs that I like are as good as anything Morricone ever wrote for Leone. The main theme specifically, is in the very top tier of his work (to paraphrase a friend of mine, "no song is better, and few are as good.") Usually, 3-4 great songs are all it takes for something to be considered a great score (heck, some well-known scores are just re-workings of a single melody!)... Almost every score will have some tracks that aren't great (which is understandable, considering that A) a score can be an hour or two long; and B) the goal of the composer may be to compose songs that fit the scene, rather than compose songs that will be fun to listen to separately on your iPod). But I dislike the bad songs from DYS more than the bad songs from any other Leone movie.

So, if the good songs are as great as any other Leone movie's good songs, but the bad songs are worse than any of Leone's movies' bad songs, does that make DYS the worst Morricone score for a Leone movie? If you made that argument, guess I couldn't disagree vociferously with you.

Anyway, the worst of Leone or Morricone is better than most anybody else could muster  O0


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Senza on February 24, 2013, 10:42:51 PM
At first I thought the soundtrack was weird, and the "sean, sean, sean" got on my nerves the first time I heard it. But after repeated viewings, the soundtrack has grown on me, and after listening to Frayling's commentary who explains some of the meaning behind the score, I appreciate it even more, especially with the "wah, wah, wah" for Juan, kind of like a belching sound to show someone with no manners, someone of a lower class.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: nat on May 26, 2013, 05:31:37 AM
Does anyone know the meaning of the 'shon shon shon' bit?


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: stanton on May 26, 2013, 05:34:40 AM
Does anyone know the meaning of the 'shon shon shon' bit?

Sean, Sean, Sean ?


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: nat on May 28, 2013, 05:10:32 AM
But what does that mean? How does it contribute to the film?  :-\


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: SeanSeanSean on June 29, 2013, 12:19:13 PM
A big part of this movie is the fates of Sean Mallory and Sean in the flasbacks.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: dave jenkins on June 29, 2013, 04:17:36 PM
Then there's the My Three Seans theory (developed by Yours Truly). On this view, there are 3 "Seans" in the picture: Mallory, who goes by either John/Sean; Nolan, whose first name (we infer, as it is never revealed) is Sean; and Miranda, whose given name is Juan (a cognate for John, but also Sean). The "Sean, Sean, Sean" vocals are first associated with the flashbacks and reminiscences of Mallory for Nolan and their tragic friendship; over the course of the film, however, as a friendship develops between Mallory and Miranda, the music comes also to foreshadow the tragic ending of this second example of male bonding. Mallory loses Nolan, and Miranda in turn loses Mallory. The revolution, and the music, plays on.


Title: Re: Worst Morricone Soundtrack?
Post by: Martin K on August 24, 2013, 06:41:46 AM
Personally, I think it is one of his best. The film is the most underrated movie in history, I think.