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Title: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 13, 2005, 04:03:29 AM
I hope we all have films here that we like which we shouldn't.

Mine are:

Armageddon
Ghostbusters II

I also have films I hate but should like and thats the Harry Potter films.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: grandpa_chum on December 13, 2005, 04:58:57 AM
films I love... that i shouldn't even like...

hard to kill
day of the dead
garden state
they live
psycho III

I'm with you on harry potter... they are also the biggest POS books I've ever laid eyes on, I never get past chapter one, the writing is just so horrid... harry potter has almost single-handedly ruined my opinion of the general public, but when idiots get all the money I guess this is what happens and jk rowling gets rich, and the cycle begins all over again.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Banjo on December 13, 2005, 07:24:49 AM
How about this one Leone_Admirer,Sid & Babs and the rest of the crew in the great British Carry On series!!!
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: titoli on December 13, 2005, 08:14:20 AM
All the Leone's, the Hitchcocks, the James Bonds of the '60's and '70's, all the good bad movies produced in Hollywood. 
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 13, 2005, 08:29:16 AM
How about this one Leone_Admirer,Sid & Babs and the rest of the crew in the great British Carry On series!!!

I actually enjoy quite a few Carry ons. You should like Leone, and Bond Titoli, no one will be ashamed if you do like them.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: titoli on December 13, 2005, 08:57:38 AM
ou should like Leone, and Bond Titoli,

I do

no one will be ashamed if you do like them.

no one but me.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Harmonica on December 13, 2005, 09:24:45 AM
A little known film from '81 called The Last Chase with Lee Majors, Burgess Meredith, and the kid from My Hero

It's the future and all cars are outlawed in the United States, California breaks away from the Union and allows cars to run freely.  Lee Majors is an ex-race car driver on the East Coast who just happens to have his old gas guzzler stashed away.  He hears word of the California car fest and makes a run for it across the country in his 300mph race car siphoning gas out of the bottom of the tanks of old service stations along the way.  The Government gets word of his run and brings in an old retired fighter pilot, Burgess Meredith, and assigns him the task of intercepting Lee Majors before he gets to California.  It’s a lot of cheesy fun.  The Score is really great.

(http://www.varaces.com/db_images/155-1.jpg)(http://www.mst3ktemple.com/images/last_chase.jpg)
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 13, 2005, 09:25:56 AM
I'm sure I've heard of that film.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: The Smoker on December 13, 2005, 11:32:36 AM
Reminds me of DeathRace 2000. its not a Corman film is it.

Dune (1984)

Daimajin (1965) Japanese film industry crosses two of it most popular themes of the 60s. Rubber Suit Monster Movie/Samurai Chambara Film. Wrath of god trapped inside a giant stone statue, terrorizes feudal japan.
(http://www.zakzak.co.jp/geino/n-2002_07/image/g2002072306daimajin_b.jpg)


Alien3 (1992) Its like a 2000AD comic strip made flesh.
Sonny & Jed (1972)
13th Warrior (2000) - Yes it looks like the victim of a disney editing room chop-shop. Yes it had the misfortune of opening in the same year as Gladiator, and plus a disgruntled Book fanbase. Don't understand the dumping this movie gets
Buckaroo Banzai (1984)

So bad its funny..
Hercules In New York  (1970) -The original overdubbed twerp track. Not the recently found arnie voice track. 'Had a viewing a couple of year ago at my house. A friend had cardiac like giggle fit, he had to leave the room for a bit, to carm down.  ;D
Zardoz (1973) is a hoot too.

I watch my selected Carry On Movies with pride. No gulity pleasure. *ahem* Carry On Dick, Camping and Don't lose your Head are fine films.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 13, 2005, 11:59:31 AM
They've found Arnie's voice for Hercules  :o . Perfect MST3K fodder.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: The Smoker on December 13, 2005, 12:52:45 PM
I first caught it along time ago on the Bravo channel when they still had a sense of humour for Trash movie gold. The various rather cheap VHS release have had the original overdub. 
But the cheapie UK DVD release is sporting the new voice over. The Region 1 version has a choice of both. ;D
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: JamesK on December 15, 2005, 09:45:16 AM
I hope we all have films here that we like which we shouldn't.

Absolutely.  I have two:

• Cobra (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6304779607/thekosubs) -- Just about the most offensive "rogue cop" movie ever made.  A thinly veiled knockoff of Dirty Harry (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NTNV/thekosubs), the film misses all the progressive subtext of that film and glories in sadism and the repression of civil liberties.  And yet... I've seen Cobra (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/6304779607/thekosubs) countless times and find it absolutely fascinating in its horribleness.

•  Deathstalker (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005NOP4/thekosubs) -- Cheaply made exploitation trash with virtually nothing to recommend it.  And yet... I own a copy of the movie, and even got a signed poster from Lana Clarkson prior to her untimely death.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Banjo on December 16, 2005, 05:01:54 AM
Reminds me of DeathRace 2000. its not a Corman film is it.

Dune (1984)


Daimajin (1965) Japanese film industry crosses two of it most popular themes of the 60s. Rubber Suit Monster Movie/Samurai Chambara Film. Wrath of god trapped inside a giant stone statue, terrorizes feudal japan.
(http://www.zakzak.co.jp/geino/n-2002_07/image/g2002072306daimajin_b.jpg)


Alien3 (1992) Its like a 2000AD comic strip made flesh.
Sonny & Jed (1972)
13th Warrior (2000) - Yes it looks like the victim of a disney editing room chop-shop. Yes it had the misfortune of opening in the same year as Gladiator, and plus a disgruntled Book fanbase. Don't understand the dumping this movie gets
Buckaroo Banzai (1984)

So bad its funny..
Hercules In New York  (1970) -The original overdubbed twerp track. Not the recently found arnie voice track. 'Had a viewing a couple of year ago at my house. A friend had cardiac like giggle fit, he had to leave the room for a bit, to carm down.  ;D
Zardoz (1973) is a hoot too.

I watch my selected Carry On Movies with pride. No gulity pleasure. *ahem* Carry On Dick, Camping and Don't lose your Head are fine films.
My top 5 Carry Ons are:-
Carry On Camping
Carry On Cleo
Carry On Doctor
Carry On Abroad
Carry On Girls
All the best ones had Sid James in them!   
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: The Man With A Hand Brace on December 18, 2005, 03:46:42 PM

Films that I like even though I shouldn't.

Well, usually, I'd go for something thought-provking, moving, detailed, sometimes a large scale epic, sometimes a small, character driven movie. In all, entertaining, intelligent films.

But my secret shame was when I turned on the TV and saw ... (this is so embarassing) ... South Park: Bigger, Better and Uncut. Badly animated eight-year olds going around swearing their heads off! I'm not supposed to find this crude humor funny - but I did.

What's wrong with me, and are there any pills that can help?
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: titoli on December 22, 2005, 05:41:39 PM
Don't laugh but it seems that I'm one of the few to think that the Fugitive is one of the best action movies of the last 2-3 decades. Probably because over here the TV series was never aired (though it was in the '60's but can't remember much) recently and so I cannot compare it to the original (which everybody -"everybody"- pronounces to be better than the movie). I like so much (though here he hams it without restraint) Tommy Lee Jones and also Harrison Ford's (not one of my favourite actors) usual stoned presence.e 
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Poggle on December 22, 2005, 06:04:13 PM
Phantom of the Opera(2004)
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Christopher on December 23, 2005, 09:12:50 AM
All the Leone's, the Hitchcocks, the James Bonds of the '60's and '70's, all the good bad movies produced in Hollywood. 

You should like Leone, and Bond Titoli, no one will be ashamed if you do like them.
Don't forget Hitchcock. Personally, I don't really see him as a guilty pleasure.

I guess mine would be slasher movies. I own the Friday the 13th box set of the first eight movies. With slashers, if there's at least an attempt at making them suspenseful, I might enjoy it.

Two other movies I really like are Frogs and Squirm. Both movies are played straight like horror films, but there's a lot of intentional humor in them that to me, shows the filmmakers having a really good time with the material. A lot of those "when nature goes bad and tries to kill us" movies are fun. ;D
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 23, 2005, 10:56:35 AM
Of couse, don't diss the Hitch! I have the OOP Criterion boxset which has some great movies, I also have a lot of Hitch's Universal DVD releases and I don't want to double dip on the Masterpeice DVD set that has been released in R1. I must get round to buying the Warners set though.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: LINCOLNS GRANDFATHER on December 26, 2005, 06:01:14 PM
Uncommon Valour (notice the English spelling).
Same director as First Blood. Swayze and Ward up to all sorts with Hackman and Stack thrown in for good measure.
Back in Nam etc.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: dave jenkins on January 12, 2006, 09:25:32 PM
Don't laugh but it seems that I'm one of the few to think that the Fugitive is one of the best action movies of the last 2-3 decades. Probably because over here the TV series was never aired (though it was in the '60's but can't remember much) recently and so I cannot compare it to the original (which everybody -"everybody"- pronounces to be better than the movie). I like so much (though here he hams it without restraint) Tommy Lee Jones and also Harrison Ford's (not one of my favourite actors) usual stoned presence.e 
I think that the movie was an improvement on the TV show for two reasons: you didn't have to wade through several years of episodes (and re-runs) to get to the end, and Tommy Lee Jones had it all over Barry Morse for the Gerard role. Not the greatest action film of the last couple of decades, though (and I guessed who the baddie was as soon as I saw the credits). Recently saw the sequel, U.S. Marshals: awful film.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: titoli on January 13, 2006, 05:11:53 AM
Well, I can only repeat that everybody I know tells me that the tv series was better. But I can easily guess that TLJ's performance could hardly have been topped. About  guessing who the bad is, that is not where it's at, otherwise I wouldn't have watched it a second (and more) time. In an action movie  I usually don't care about who the murderer or primus movens is but, rather, how a certain plot twist was introduced and solved, both narratively as figuratively.     

 Any suggestion about other action movies is welcome.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: cigar joe on January 13, 2006, 05:37:04 AM
Big Trouble In Little China is a very fun action flick with Ken Russel affecting a John Wayne type of persona, but the true hero of the film is Dennis Dun, also has Kim Cattrall & Suzee Pai.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Tim on January 14, 2006, 12:01:42 PM
  Lincoln's grandfather mentioned it, but I actually really like Uncommon Valor.  Gene Hackman is good as is the supporting cast.  And I've always thought of this movie as a Magnificent Seven in Vietnam, as wrong as that sounds.

  A group of ex-soldiers, instead of gunfighters, going in to rescue some of their fallen comrades.  Good movie which I guess is a guilty secret for me.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Two Kinds of ... on January 14, 2006, 12:30:32 PM
I love a lot of the old AIP movies including the Corman/Price flicks and the beach party flicks.  I like most Elvis movies, too.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: The Firecracker on August 19, 2006, 11:53:09 PM
Private Parts (The one Paul Bartel directed not Howard stern).

Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: The Firecracker on August 19, 2006, 11:59:43 PM
U.S. Marshals: awful film.

I remember seeing U.S Marshals when I was much younger but all I remember is one scene where Tommy Lee Jones is driving Wesley Snipes bald head into a heap of sand trying to suffocate him.

Quite a disturbing sight to me at the time. Guess I'll have to see it again to judge it further as I do remember liking it.

Dont laugh, but I have yet to see "The Fugitive". There was a time when I was a huge Harrison Ford fan (I was much younger) and always wanted to see "The Fugitive" but never got around to it. I have since lost interest in Ford (especially now when he is'nt doing anything of importance) and doubt I will be watching the Fugitive anytime soon.

The last decent film ford did was "what lies beneath".
And his last best actioner has got to be "Air Force One".
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: cigar joe on August 20, 2006, 07:03:48 AM
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Private Parts (The one Paul Bartel directed not Howard stern).

I liked Paul Bartel's "Eating Raoul"  ;D
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Groggy on August 20, 2006, 03:33:27 PM
"Red Dawn".  Horribly blatant anti-Communist propaganda, but I love it in an "OMG this is so corny!" kinda way.  Also the "Tremors" films for much the same reason.

I first saw "Red Dawn" when I was about eight and it fed into my fantasies of me saving the world (or at least the US) from them evil Commie bastards.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: franksgrandson on August 20, 2006, 03:40:03 PM
for me its the original The Blob  and Day of the Triffids.
In fact I like all the late fifties early sixties movies that start with The day the Earth ect.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: The Firecracker on August 20, 2006, 03:48:25 PM
for me its the original The Blob  and Day of the Triffids.
In fact I like all the late fifties early sixties movies that start with The day the Earth ect.


Well there is no shame in liking "The Day the Earth stood still". That is considered a masterpiece.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Tim on August 21, 2006, 10:24:13 AM
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I first saw "Red Dawn" when I was about eight and it fed into my fantasies of me saving the world (or at least the US) from them evil Commie bastards.

  Isn't that opening scene great?  All those Russian paratroopers falling from the sky, and then the teacher getting shot!  It is a corny movie, but it is also very entertaining.  Hey look, Powers Boothe!   ;D
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: marmota-b on August 21, 2006, 11:11:59 AM
Shh... I like Disney's Brother Bear. Probably because I like bears... It seems that this film isn't much unique or anything like that, but still I like it.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Banjo on August 22, 2006, 02:38:15 AM
OK i'm coming out :-[
I bought the recent Willy Wonka & His Chocolate factory dvd but solely for the footage and documentary of the 40 trained grey squirrels which were taught to shell walnuts and place them on a conveyor belt.I wouldn't normally touch a remake with a bargepole,but myself and Mrs Banjo are totally squirrel mad-they come into our house to feed.Anyway at least Tim Burton directed it! ::)
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: marmota-b on August 22, 2006, 02:41:56 AM
I bought the recent Willy Wonka & His Chocolate factory dvd but solely for the footage and documentary of the 40 trained grey squirrels which were taught to shell walnuts and place them on a conveyor belt.

Hehe. I'm afraid I would do the same if a film used marmots... I need to see Groundhog Day!
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Banjo on August 22, 2006, 04:21:34 AM
Hehe. I'm afraid I would do the same if a film used marmots... I need to see Groundhog Day!
Very funny film!
Is the marmot just a giant squirrel? ::)
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Groggy on August 22, 2006, 05:05:22 AM
Well I'm very violently anti-squirrel myself, as is my family. . . chipmunks, on the other hand, are always welcome.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Banjo on August 22, 2006, 08:14:44 AM
Well I'm very violently anti-squirrel myself, as is my family. . . chipmunks, on the other hand, are always welcome.
Violently :'(
Why chipmunks and not squirrels?
The latter have more personality and are not so hyper.We have over a dozen grey squirrels visiting our house/garden,all with names and different characters,and we get a huge amount of pleasure interacting with them.How can you be horrible against such cute harmless little critters.
If you are talking about tree damage etc,then humans are by far the most destructive creatures on Earth :(
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: marmota-b on August 22, 2006, 09:49:05 AM
Is the marmot just a giant squirrel? ::)

Almost. It is relative to squirrels (not only a rodent, but even closer relative, together with beavers!) But it doesn't eat nuts, as far as I know.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Silenzio on August 22, 2006, 09:55:34 AM
Marmots:

(http://www.scsc.k12.ar.us/2001Outwest/PacificNaturalHistory/Projects/LachowskyR/Olympic%20marmot.jpg)

(http://www.markhj.com/beasties/pics/marmot.jpg)
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: marmota-b on August 22, 2006, 10:00:12 AM
Oh, they're lovely... I've got loads of their photos on computer, but only on computer.
The greatest groundhog site I know:
http://www.hoghaven.com/
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: The Firecracker on August 22, 2006, 10:18:13 AM
OK i'm coming out :-[
I bought the recent Willy Wonka & His Chocolate factory dvd but solely for the footage and documentary of the 40 trained grey squirrels which were taught to shell walnuts and place them on a conveyor belt.I wouldn't normally touch a remake with a bargepole,but myself and Mrs Banjo are totally squirrel mad-they come into our house to feed.Anyway at least Tim Burton directed it! ::)


I thought the squirrel's movements were digital enhanced.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Aguirre on August 22, 2006, 02:22:14 PM
Bloodrayne!
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Banjo on August 22, 2006, 02:54:27 PM
Ah can't someone smuggle these marmots into England as well as your gorgeous cuddly fox squirrels? ::)
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: marmota-b on August 22, 2006, 11:55:45 PM
Ah can't someone smuggle these marmots into England as well as your gorgeous cuddly fox squirrels? ::)

No, they surely don't have such good environment in England! ;D
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Banjo on August 23, 2006, 12:09:10 AM

I thought the squirrel's movements were digital enhanced.
Only slightly where the squirrels shake the walnuts to their ears to check if they were "bad nuts" but otherwise the squirrels were taught to shell the specially made inedible walnuts and place them on the belt.They were also taught to run up the length of Veruca Salt and also jump up and shove her dad over into the shoot.
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: Banjo on August 23, 2006, 12:21:00 AM
No, they surely don't have such good environment in England! ;D
Well your grey squirrels moved in quite comfortably into Britain..The grey squirrel is quite often blamed for displacing our native reds decline just because it is the larger animal but that is too simplistic a picture.The reds were hunted to near extinction in the 19th Century(we even had to import European reds of a different genetic strain-so really what we have now in the way of reds are "foreigners" too  ;D ),but also drastically declined in numbers due to disease and habitat loss.The greys who are more suited to decidious woodlands (more prevalent in much of the UK) were really just filling in a vacuum left by the reds who still have strongholds in parts of the UK where there are pine forests to which the reds are more suited.
   Seriously though it probably wouldn't be such a good idea to introduce wild marmots at risk of affecting our eco system :-\
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: cigar joe on August 23, 2006, 04:55:20 AM
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We have over a dozen grey squirrels visiting our house/garden,all with names and different characters,and we get a huge amount of pleasure interacting with them.How can you be horrible against such cute harmless little critters.

The man is daft!  ;D

We have a grey squirrel strain here in the Catskills that are entirely black.

Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
Post by: marmota-b on August 23, 2006, 07:26:01 AM
Well your grey squirrels moved in quite comfortably into Britain..

Seriously though it probably wouldn't be such a good idea to introduce wild marmots at risk of affecting our eco system :-\

Not ours. We have reds here in the Czech Republic ;D (and some of them are also almost black). I love them, too.
There is one Czech site about people who also have squirrels with names and all that stuff, so you're not alone.

I care more about mountain marmots (marmota marmota). Unlike groundhogs/woodchucks (marmota monax) they live in families, which is much more interesting. And for them Britain really wouldn't be the best environment! They need alpine meadows. I think there aren't many of them in Britain. Correct me, if I'm wrong...
Title: Re: Guilty Secrets: Films You like That You Shouldn't
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