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Title: The Dirty Outlaws (El Desperado)(1967)
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 13, 2005, 10:49:08 AM
According to the Wild East Website http://www.wildeast.net/content.htm January 2006's release will be The Dirty Outlaws. Out now is If You Meet Sartana Pray For Your Death


Title: Re: Wild East Release: The Dirty Outlaws
Post by: Marco Leone on December 24, 2005, 03:06:53 PM
I'd not even heard of this.  Hopefully it will be one of those discovered gems!!!


Title: The Dirty Outlaws (El Desperado)(1967)
Post by: titoli on January 02, 2007, 06:32:39 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061563/

http://www.spaghettiwestern.altervista.org/el_desperado.htm

Everybody seems to like it and I can't understand why. I think it the story is flimsy, at best: the blind father doesn't get wise to the impostor impersonating his son; the money to be handed to just 2 soldiers who might decide to escape with it or easily being robbed; the ex of Giordana who pretends to shoot at him and kill him and the chief baddy falling for it though he's just two steps away. This kind of crap it is usually redeemed and accepted by fast rhythm. But here it is slow, without a single directorial invention. Only scenes I liked are the beating in the mud (that the reviewer at IMDB doesn't like) and the killing of blind Lulli duplicated in the end. I might add that this is a good chance to fully appreciate the face of Col. Mortimer's sister.
Oh, I like the main theme song.





 


Title: Re: The Dirty Outlaws (El Desperado)(1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on January 02, 2007, 09:39:06 PM
Thomas Weisser says it's "needlessly confusing"...is that true?

From your description it just sounds complicated but not confusing.


Title: Re: The Dirty Outlaws (El Desperado)(1967)
Post by: titoli on January 03, 2007, 08:43:39 AM
I can't say that I followed the story line step by step because after awhile I got bored and made it to the end just to give this review. Still I think that the main line is quite clear, though some particular twist might (but I wasn't aware of it) not square up. Of course I can't read the mind of Weisser who should have at least brought up an example of what he means.  In the main the story is: Giordana, after having escaped a hanging, meets a confederate dying soldier whose identity he assume (sounds familiar, uh?) to steal his (the soldier) father's money. In the ghost town (again!) he meets his father and he's about to steal the money when a band of outlaws come to town to steal the money bound to be consigned to 2 confederate soldiers. After some confrontations Giordana manages to get the confederate money but the band get to him and "kills" him with the two confederate soldiers and "his" father (why they let col. Mortimer's sister alive is anybody's guess). Giordana catches up with them and has his vengeance.   


Title: Re: The Dirty Outlaws (El Desperado)(1967)
Post by: Banjo on January 08, 2007, 05:03:44 PM
Saw this earlier today Titoli and i agree not at all confusing but i did very much enjoy this movie,for me out of all the sw's i've seen so far this definately has a unique storyline,with also a high proportion of great atmospheric mud splatttered night scenes accompanied by an excellent melancolic soundtrack from Gianni Ferrio.
I've got the Big Ripoff VHS pan & scan version but would now love to see the widescreen print which i see is easily available. O0


Title: Re: The Dirty Outlaws (El Desperado)(1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 17, 2011, 08:58:32 PM
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061563/

http://www.spaghettiwestern.altervista.org/el_desperado.htm

Everybody seems to like it and I can't understand why. I think it the story is flimsy, at best: the blind father doesn't get wise to the impostor impersonating his son; the money to be handed to just 2 soldiers who might decide to escape with it or easily being robbed; the ex of Giordana who pretends to shoot at him and kill him and the chief baddy falling for it though he's just two steps away. This kind of crap it is usually redeemed and accepted by fast rhythm. But here it is slow, without a single directorial invention. Only scenes I liked are the beating in the mud (that the reviewer at IMDB doesn't like) and the killing of blind Lulli duplicated in the end. I might add that this is a good chance to fully appreciate the face of Col. Mortimer's sister.
Oh, I like the main theme song.

100% agree with the above.
The highlight is Luli's death and the climax has good poetic justice.
I might add that the opening is excellent as well.
Everything else was a ho-hum affair.

Unlike the IMDB reviewer I liked the beating in the mud a lot. Could've gone on even longer and it wouldn't have bothered me.