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Title: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on December 19, 2005, 07:15:30 AM
 I spent hours searching for any information about this third movie in Corbucci's Revolution trilogy yesterday as there was a DVD up for sale on Ebay and despite even looking at and translating foreign language sites i found next to zilch.Surprisingly i read from a review of the soundtrack cd somewhere that this was filmed in Mexico even though it pretty much looks like Almeria,Spain.
  The only thing i have are a few lines in Howard Hughes SW books where he descibes this movie as aimless and verging on slapstick but i took this with a pinch of salt because he includes Companeros in the same brackets-and we all know how great a SW this is!!
   I did a search on this forum and came across an old  post by the Smoker who found this movie a bit of a letdown after Mercenary/Companeros although he really enjoyed Morricones soundtrack.This prompted me to do another search and i found some listening samples of the compact disc which are quite reminiscent of the DYS music.Well having recently bought And For A Roof A Skyful of Stars on the strength of Morricones score and not being disappointed i decided to take the plunge and i put in a winning bid last night.
   I'm aware Marco also got this recently and i'm looking forward to his review as well as seeing the movie for myself!
   


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: The Smoker on December 19, 2005, 05:23:04 PM
I caught it along time ago on Spanish sat. It was a Italian (or could of been even German) channel. no subtitles..
Fantastic soundtrack one of my fav Morricone SW.
I eventually tracked it down last year on vinyl.
 
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'Companeros Topic' 21/10/2004, 21:47

Shame that 'Che Centriamo Noi Con La Rivoluzione' (1972)
'What am i doing in the middle of this revolution'
didn't produce the goods, the last part of Corbucci's Zapata Trilogy.
2 Italian gringos (Actor & Priest), In the midist of the Revolution. It was actually filmed in Mexico. Basic idea is great spaghetti western self parody (A Italian thespian in Mexico), The main bandit cult seeking revenge all wear Mexican ‘day of the dead’ traditional skull masks and sombreros.  (On a subconscious level they strikingly reminded you of certain sci-fi movies stormtroopers when in mass) Also had their right hands amputated, Corbucci’s disability obsession again.  But it doesn’t pull it off. Wasn’t up to the quality of the others. Very over noisy and unmatchable in places (Sonny & Jed). And above all not very funny which its suppose to be.
One of those films that i bet looked good on paper.
At least it shook it self free from the 'A Bullet For The General' carbon copy that Mercenary, Companeros followed.
And yes, The Ennio Morricone soundtrack was fantastic for this movie.


(http://products.priceclash.co.uk/images/nodrop/160/B00008V71A/music)

Has that twilight melancholy feel the My Name is Nobody, Sonny & Jed and Giu La Testa scores have. Sundown on the Italian western.
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And above all.... I'd still like to see it again.

Any clues to were you got it, Banjo?


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on December 20, 2005, 05:13:29 AM
From Ebay - i'll drop you a personal message Smoker!


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: The Smoker on December 20, 2005, 07:39:31 AM
Thanks for the PM 'heads up' banjo.

Some photos stills from the dagored vinyl gatefold.

(http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/1830/revolution3hg.jpg)

Italians got really good at those distinctive lobbycards by the mid 70s. More commonly used for giallo films. Mixure of collarge, colourized images. The middle image is nutz.


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on December 20, 2005, 07:52:00 AM
Wow the lead characters do look totally barmy-Franco Nero they aint!!But i like the first 2 in the trilogy so immensely that i just have to get the last one regardless of its (lack of?) merits and anyway if the Morricone score is great...
I expect the Ebay seller will have another copy up for sale pretty soon,if you intend to get this Smoker!I think i may have been the next or next but one winner after Marco Leone!


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: The Smoker on December 20, 2005, 08:24:05 AM
Vittorio Gassman (The thesbian Actor charactor) was an actor with his background in theatre so its more a send up or self parody in his part. Paolo Villaggio (the Priest) was an energetic 60s stand-up comedian.

It the old Roman threatrical chartactor tradition. The Harlequin (Or White Clown) and the Auguste Clown (The Idiot).

Which is in everything from the dawn of the stage. e.g. Don Quixote, Laurel and Hardy, La Strada.  Actually come to think of it.. Blondie and Tuco, Sean and Juan work on the same template.



Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on December 20, 2005, 09:44:17 AM
Thanks Smoker,it does sound very intruiging and if i go into this movie not expecting  too much perhaps i won't be disappointed!


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Marco Leone on December 24, 2005, 09:42:22 AM
Hey - the wanderer has returned!!!  Or should that be wonderer lol.  i've not been about much, so plan to get in touch with all i've missed out on here over the xmas period!

Banjo, I've not seen Revolution yet.  It looks eccentric, but I have faith in Corbucci.

As an aside I watched Pancho Villa the other day, and its the first SW that I found difficult to stay awake through  :D


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on December 24, 2005, 10:54:34 AM
Well i did warn you Marco,tut,tut!!
Hey did you managa to bring forward Requiescant before watching Pancho Villa?


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Marco Leone on December 24, 2005, 11:21:07 AM
Well, it was due to be watched, but on the basis that I had an early start the next day, i eventually settled for the shorter and fairly rubbish Pancho!!


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on December 24, 2005, 11:25:33 AM
It is particularly rubbish,rubbish.Even Zappata specialist Cigar Joe has given Pancho Villa a wide berth!
Do you agree the the fly swatting scene was excrutiatingly embarrasing?


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Marco Leone on December 24, 2005, 03:05:04 PM
Yeah, it was a "phew, there is no-one else in the room" moment!  :D


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on January 07, 2006, 03:00:42 AM
The DVD arrived yesterday,watched it last night,and now i think its about time i tried my hand at writing a review for once!
As in the first two of Corbucci's trilogy the movie begins with the Priest(Paolo Villaggio) about to be shot by a firing squad who exclaims "What Am I Doing In The Middle Of A Revolution?" and goes on to tell in flashback mode how he had come to be in this scrape:-
Guido Guidi(Vittorio Gassman) an Italian actor is duped into travelling down to Mexico to form a theatrical company but is unwittingly smuggling arms to the revolutionaries led by Mexican baddie Carrasco,while the Priest arrives at the same destination on a holy mission.Following an ambush on the theatre by Carrasco to retrieve his arms and a counter attack by Mexican General Herrero(Eduardo Fajardo again!),Guido and the Priest find themselves sucked into the revolution after  accidentally machine gunning down Mexican troops while trying to escape the carnage.The two "heros" initially don't get on but eventually become firm friends as they spend the entire movie going from one opposing side to the other and getting into some very dangerous predicaments in their futile attempts to escape the revolution.
Theres much more slapstick involved here than in Corbucci's other two revolutionary films but the two leads are very likeable-the Priest is very down to earth while Gassman as the hyper-active self-obsessed thespian is quite hilarious
and he is forced to impersonate Zappata and Cardinal among other things in order to survive!
There is much similarity in the set pieces to Companeros/Mercenary and one of my favourite scenes is when the Priest is nearly forced to sleep with an old hag of a matriarch who has been receiving bounties for the severed hands of Indian peasants,but is saved(as is Guidi who is buried up to his neck in sand) from this fate by a sudden attack of vengeful one-handed machete wielding peasants in skeleton masks.Theres also a great rescue by bi-plane when the Priest is lassoed at high speed from the air when about to be executed,and a motorcycle and sidecar chase with the two friends in Mexico army uniforms to protect themselves from Herrero but carrying with them a baby offspring of Zappata to save them from the rebels-so they think!!
    A cool Nero-type mercenary shoot-em up this is not,and like DYS this is maybe an attempt by Corbucci to unromanticize(but still definately a comedy!) the Mexican Revolution as neither side is shown to be in a favourable light with the rebels being almost as ruthless and deceitful as the government troops-at one point Carrasco even tries to hang both Guidi and the Priest,and the films ending is much more downbeat than the previous two.
Ennio Morricones soundtrack is enjoyable if a little samey with the riff of the main theme being either whistled or damply played on a mandolin-the arrangement and melody is similar to the tune from DYS when Juan attacks the bank at Mesa Verde.
From the very little and slightly negative information i had before going into this movie i wasn't expecting too much and to the contrary although nowhere near classic i found this film very entertaining!!


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Marco Leone on January 09, 2006, 07:46:28 AM
Great review Banjo.  Can I post it on the site (afterall, I have not written any myself for about a month - slacker that I am!).

By the way, I watched Requiescant the other night.  Really enjoyed it.  Its a *** / **** borderline!


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on January 09, 2006, 08:52:23 AM
Cheers Marco ,of course you can and i'm well chuffed that you have asked me!!!
I'm really looking forward to reading your own review of this movie in due course-theres so little available information on the net  so its great that we're building up a a bit of a thread here.For the purpose of the Morricone Filmography Guide ,when you do get round to watching the film Marco(and anybody else reading this),can you let me know if you think that his  soundtrack is essential,very good,good or only fair?I think its a bit pointless to conduct the same type of poll as i've done for the others so far because apart from you,myself,and the Smoker(Smoker what do you say about the score?) its doesn't seem like any of the other usual regulars have so far!At the moment i would say either very good or good but i need to watch it again first!
I lent a pile of SW videos to my step-father over the Xmas break and he reallly enjoyed Requiescant too!


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Marco Leone on January 10, 2006, 07:16:06 AM
So far the only bit of the soundtrack I have heard is (presumably) the title track.  Its on one of the Spaghetti Western series (Disc 2, Vol 2 I think!).  Its fairly jaunty, but without the class of his other soundtracks.

I am looking forward to seeing this movie though.  Corbucci hasn't let me down yet!


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on January 10, 2006, 08:05:05 AM
Not even on Samurai?-haven't seen this.
Whats Sonny & Jed like Marco?I very nearly got involved in a bidding war for this last weekend mainly so i can get to hear Morricones soundtrack-any good?


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Marco Leone on January 11, 2006, 08:13:44 AM
Well Banjo, these ar still on the "to view" list, but yes from what i have heard they may not be of the same quality!


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: titoli on May 19, 2008, 02:47:28 AM
Very entertaining, with the narrative rhythm which comedy should have and that Corbucci rarely did show in the genre. I guess some lines get lost in translation, but I think the movie can be generally appreciated by a foreign audience. I don't particularly like Villaggio because in Italy we are used over here to see him play different characters (of his own making) from the one played here, but this doesn't count for foreigners so I guess he's alright. While Gassman is brilliant in a kind of character which he played repeatedly in his extraordinary career, most notably in Il mattatore. The movie would have earned a 9\10 if it had not had the usual simplistic pro-peones and heroistic finale. So I give it a 8\10. Morricone's score is good but not memorable, a rehashing of well-known formulae but more brilliant executed elsewhere (the main theme reminded me of Sonny).
P.S. You sure this was shot in Mexico?


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 19, 2008, 04:19:56 PM
Very entertaining, with the narrative rhythm which comedy should have and that Corbucci rarely did show in the genre. I guess some lines get lost in translation, but I think the movie can be generally appreciated by a foreign audience. I don't particularly like Villaggio because in Italy we are used over here to see him play different characters (of his own making) from the one played here, but this doesn't count for foreigners so I guess he's alright. While Gassman is brilliant in a kind of character which he played repeatedly in his extraordinary career, most notably in Il mattatore. The movie would have earned a 9\10 if it had not had the usual simplistic pro-peones and heroistic finale. So I give it a 8\10. Morricone's score is good but not memorable, a rehashing of well-known formulae but more brilliant executed elsewhere (the main theme reminded me of Sonny).
P.S. You sure this was shot in Mexico?



100% agreed! How Odd.


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: stanton on November 23, 2008, 04:29:28 AM
I'm sure this wasn't shot in Mexico.

Most of it shows the typical Almerian landscape and I doubt that anything of it was shot elsewhere. And besides, why should they?


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on November 23, 2008, 07:42:10 AM
In his trilogy Corbucci was obviously influenced by VIVA MARIA which was filmed in Mexico so why not? I'm sure there are others, GUNS FOR SAN SEBASTIAN comes to mind.

But you may be right.I got my information (i think) from a review of the cd which is where i got the "Tortilla" name from.Interestingly on doing a search now for the cd all the various sellers are using this Tortilla moniker as part of a standard sales blurb.No mention anywhere of the film being shot in Mexico but the one i originally read definitely did.The review said somethng like "it was shot in Mexico so really it's should be called a tortilla rather than spaghetti".I know you can't take this as gospel but why would someone make this up?

Before some mentions that infamous liar Weisser i've already checked his book and he doesn't say anything about locations. ;D

Sadly just as when i wrote the review there is still an almost total absense of information about this film. :(

Hopefully things will become clearer when (i pray) this gets the decent dvd treatment hopefully with some extra's.



Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: stanton on November 23, 2008, 09:10:07 AM
Yeah, Viva Maria and San Sebastian were both shot in Mexico, and it shows, as the locations are quite different to all the SW.

All the outdoor scenes in this Corbucci are definitely Spain.



Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Banjo on November 23, 2008, 02:28:30 PM
OK i altered my first post to suggest it was most probably filmed in Spain. ;)

But did you read The Smokers reply ? This supports the information i found elsewhere. :-\


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: stanton on November 23, 2008, 03:15:49 PM
Yes, but i think he's simply wrong.

The german SW expert Bruckner, who is very interested in all these location things, also only mentions Spain in his big book.

Too bad that there's not so much information avaiable about Corbucci and his work.


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on July 06, 2010, 01:22:02 PM
I saw this movie a few days ago and I liked it far more than The White, the Yellow and the Black. Both are funny but WAMDITMOTR is far less outrageous. The musical score is excellent (another Morricone gem) and both Vittorio Gassman and Paolo Villaggio play excellent roles.

This movie was clearly filmed in Spain, not in Mexico.

7/10


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Dust Devil on July 07, 2010, 08:27:51 AM
I've never seen this but, Paolo Villaggio (aka Fantozzi) in a (S)W?!

Sounds insane, I'll definitely watch out for this.


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on July 07, 2010, 12:22:24 PM
I've never seen this but, Paolo Villaggio (aka Fantozzi) in a (S)W?!

Sounds insane, I'll definitely watch out for this.
It IS insane.  :D


Title: Re: Sergio Corbucci's: What Am I Doing in the Middle of the Revolution (1972)
Post by: Novecento on July 07, 2010, 02:29:19 PM
It's great and a fitting end to Corbucci's revolution trilogy.

Although I really like all three, my order of preference follows the order of production: 1. The Mercenary; 2.Companeros; 3. What am I doing in the Middle of the Revolution?