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Films of Sergio Leone => For a Few Dollars More => Topic started by: Beebs on December 19, 2005, 02:27:15 PM



Title: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: Beebs on December 19, 2005, 02:27:15 PM
If the fellas in Les Aqua Caliente don't like strangers, How in the hell of fire did Colonel Mortimer get in?


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: Charlie Siringo on December 20, 2005, 05:08:49 PM
Assuming the 'welcoming party' lined up similar style to when Manco rode in, the Col would have shot their sombreros off their heads knowing he would have been out of their range. They were sure to disperse as a result, psych battle won by Col!


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: Banjo on December 21, 2005, 07:15:04 AM
Good point Charlie Siringo but i also agree with Derringdo that they would have been scared of him,and Mortimers obviously smarter than Manco!


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: Sackett on December 21, 2005, 08:18:21 AM
Maybe he's not a stranger.  Maybe he's been there before on bounty business.


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: The Firecracker on July 28, 2006, 02:35:05 PM
Good point Charlie Siringo but i also agree with Derringdo that they would have been scared of him,and Mortimers obviously smarter than Manco!


If their scared of the Colonel why not Manco?


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 28, 2006, 11:32:29 PM

If their scared of the Colonel why not Manco?

I'd be more scared of Monco than Mortimer!


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: cigar joe on July 29, 2006, 07:15:29 AM
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I'd be more scared of Monco than Mortimer!


No I don't agree with this, The Colonel is much more unpredictable, cunning, and crafty, Manco is more bullheaded and straightforward.

The matchlighting sequence in the El Paso Saloon and the safe opening explanation in the Cantina after shooting Wild take Manco by suprise by the look on his face. It's like he's thinking "what a set of balls" the Col. has, lol.


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: Beebs on July 30, 2006, 06:30:13 PM

If their scared of the Colonel why not Manco?

Well they are.... They backed off when he showed his fancy gunwork. I guess Mortimer did the same when he first entered the town. And then helped Manco out when he got there.

Hehe... I answered my own question. :P


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: Kurugen on October 23, 2006, 07:16:41 PM
I'd be more scared of Monco than Mortimer!

i think a dude with a pipe and a black cloack is scarier than a dude with a pancho  ;D


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: drinkanddestroy on May 11, 2011, 02:31:08 AM
Mortimer is more of a craftsman, calculated and deliberate. Manco is "young and reckless."
Hard to say whether one is "scarier" than the other; they are just two contrasting styles that make for an unlikely (though very successful  ;)) partnership. (See Frayling's dvd commentary on the scene where the two of 'em forge their alliance in Mortimer's hotel room)


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: El_Chuncho on May 11, 2011, 11:13:48 AM
I reckon the alpha males of Agua Caliente wouldn't have felt threatened by the Colonel.
He looks like and is obviously a man of means and distinction: Dressed in black, expensive clothing and precision weapons.
In short a military man and also an older man (nearly 50 years of age with his system!) and not to be messed with.
He's also of an age and character that to them he probably wouldn't look to be a threat....
 
Whereas Manco obviously looks like one mean hombre.


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: drinkanddestroy on May 11, 2011, 11:17:58 AM
I reckon the alpha males of Agua Caliente wouldn't have felt threatened by the Colonel.
He looks like and is obviously a man of means and distinction: Dressed in black, expensive clothing and precision weapons.
In short a military man and also an older man (nearly 50 years of age with his system!) and not to be messed with.
He's also of an age and character that to them he probably wouldn't look to be a threat....
 
Whereas Manco obviously looks like one mean hombre.


just saw some of those paintings on somethingtodowithdeath.com... is that your site? those are bloody good, mate!  O0


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: El_Chuncho on May 11, 2011, 11:42:55 AM
just saw some of those paintings on somethingtodowithdeath.com... is that your site? those are bloody good, mate!  O0


Cheers hombre! Yep they're mine.
Working on 3 more at the moment but they've a way to go.


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: drinkanddestroy on May 11, 2011, 02:52:39 PM

Cheers hombre! Yep they're mine.
Working on 3 more at the moment but they've a way to go.


you should create a new thread on this board and post the paintings; I think the folks will appreciate 'em

are you gonna do Noodles's final smile?  ;)


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: El_Chuncho on May 11, 2011, 04:18:41 PM
you should create a new thread on this board and post the paintings; I think the folks will appreciate 'em

are you gonna do Noodles's final smile?  ;)

Thanks man!
I already put one in this section entitled "Paintings"...I only put it up the other week when the website went live.
I'll probably post future paintings individually as they're finished in the appropriate section of the forum.
Of the 3 on at the moment, 2 are from FAFDM and the third is from "Bullet for the General"....
...Got a Django one on my mind as well!

Not sure about Noodles's final smile. Enlighten me!




Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: drinkanddestroy on May 12, 2011, 04:57:56 AM
Thanks man!
I already put one in this section entitled "Paintings"...I only put it up the other week when the website went live.
I'll probably post future paintings individually as they're finished in the appropriate section of the forum.
Of the 3 on at the moment, 2 are from FAFDM and the third is from "Bullet for the General"....
...Got a Django one on my mind as well!

Not sure about Noodles's final smile. Enlighten me!




have you seen Once Upon a Time in America? If not, drop everything and watch it. immediately. before you do anything else. including breathe


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: El_Chuncho on May 12, 2011, 05:35:00 AM
have you seen Once Upon a Time in America? If not, drop everything and watch it. immediately. before you do anything else. including breathe

I have seen it yes, but hate to admit probably only once or twice.
Never really took to it like his others to be honest, although it's probably at least 10 years since I last gave it a watch.
Maybe it's time for a re-run!


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: drinkanddestroy on May 12, 2011, 05:59:39 AM
I have seen it yes, but hate to admit probably only once or twice.
Never really took to it like his others to be honest, although it's probably at least 10 years since I last gave it a watch.
Maybe it's time for a re-run!


indeed it is. make sure it is the full 229-minute version. one of the greatest movies ever made


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: cigar joe on May 12, 2011, 08:33:21 AM
indeed it is. make sure it is the full 229-minute version. one of the greatest movies ever made

El_Chuncho, you are about ripe for it, its a more mature Western, and it either takes a bit of age/wisdom under the belt, or a second or third viewing for it to click.

Its almost par for the course with accounts from first time viewers of OUTITW.


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: Dust Devil on May 12, 2011, 02:03:32 PM
Maybe it's time for a re-run!

Don't buy dynamite, amigo, buy movies!


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: drinkanddestroy on May 12, 2011, 08:07:49 PM
El_Chuncho, you are about ripe for it, its a more mature Western, and it either takes a bit of age/wisdom under the belt, or a second or third viewing for it to click.

Its almost par for the course with accounts from first time viewers of OUTITW.

yeah, I must have OUATIA a million and one times, and I am constantly discovering new  plot elements all the time... and Frayling's chapter on OUATIA in Something To Do With Death is particularly spectacular; reading it (after you have watched the movie, of course) will give you an entirely new appreciation for the film  O0


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: Gaz on October 05, 2011, 09:23:05 AM
What makes Mortimer think the month will go fast whilst waiting for his share of the money.There doesn't seem to be much going on in Agua Caliente, certainly not much in the way of prostitutes or gambling.He even says the air and food stinks so why on earth would four weeks pass quickly?


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: dave jenkins on October 05, 2011, 10:01:30 AM
What makes Mortimer think the month will go fast whilst waiting for his share of the money.There doesn't seem to be much going on in Agua Caliente, certainly not much in the way of prostitutes or gambling.He even says the air and food stinks so why on earth would four weeks pass quickly?
Jimson weed.


Title: Re: Colonel Mortimer's entrance
Post by: Groggy on October 10, 2011, 12:21:48 PM
What makes Mortimer think the month will go fast whilst waiting for his share of the money.There doesn't seem to be much going on in Agua Caliente, certainly not much in the way of prostitutes or gambling.He even says the air and food stinks so why on earth would four weeks pass quickly?

Lots of apples to shoot I guess.