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Title: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 01, 2006, 05:13:47 AM
Another piece of excellent DVD news, this again taken from the digital bits website via the HTF:

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And finally, here's a bit of news that's going to get a lot of you excited (and I made a point to specifically ask about this title, believe me)... Ridley Scott's Blade Runner (1982) is currently on track for release as a multi-disc special edition in time for its 25th anniversary in 2007. The release is far from certain (as usual, there's a lot more that I can't post about this title yet - think of the old saying, "Loose lips sink ships"), but Warner says that work is proceeding, most of the key players are involved and things are "looking good" for release next year. We'll see.

Wahoo, with all the legal turmoil this release has been facing over the years, lets hope this release will be much more smoother.


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: JamesK on February 02, 2006, 09:38:02 AM
The sad thing is that some of the material Ridley Scott considers essential for a genuine director's cut no longer exists, or is in such poor condition as to be unusable in the digital format.

Still, good news about a new DVD release.  We've had to make do with a bare-bones edition for too long.


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 02, 2006, 03:56:28 PM
It'll be interesting to see if most of the legal problems have been cleared up and we get more then one version of the film, hopefully the revisited DC that Scott calls his definitve cut. The HTF chat with warners is coming up soon and I can say with some certainty that there will be some questions asked regarding this release.


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: JamesK on February 02, 2006, 07:35:32 PM
It'll be interesting to see if most of the legal problems have been cleared up and we get more then one version of the film, hopefully the revisited DC that Scott calls his definitve cut.

Unfortunately -- and as I mentioned above -- some of the footage Scott considers part of an actual "director's cut" no longer exists, or is in such poor shape as to be useless in the digital medium.  See Paul Sammon's Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0061053147/thekosubs) for more details.


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 03, 2006, 05:02:51 AM
I've got that book, but I have also read that the original take that Ridley wanted of the Unicorn has been found. Also from what I have read about Ridleys definitve cut is that most of the changes will be fixes and the adition of CGI spinners.


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: JamesK on February 03, 2006, 07:13:02 AM
I've got that book, but I have also read that the original take that Ridley wanted of the Unicorn has been found. Also from what I have read about Ridleys definitve cut is that most of the changes will be fixes and the adition of CGI spinners.
Scott also wanted some gore shots reinstated, ones that were extant at the time of the VHS release (and appear there), but don't any longer.  When the current "director's cut" was assembled, that footage was missing or degraded.  See also Sammon.


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: The Smoker on February 03, 2006, 10:05:49 AM
Scott also wanted some gore shots reinstated, ones that were extant at the time of the VHS release (and appear there), but don't any longer.  When the current "director's cut" was assembled, that footage was missing or degraded.  See also Sammon.

Mainland European Threatrical cut has the additional gore shots. Criterion's 80s Laserdisc released it in a widescreen digital format. Ive got it somewhere, Not much to shout about.. dosn't make a real difference to the film.
Quick blood spurt from Tyrell's eye sockets. Deckard has his nostrils rearranged by Priss while in the thunder thies lock.
Their actually amusing and create an distraction from the film.
Stange Ridley had a similar scene in Alien. 'Ash (android) attacking Parker'  sequence tends to come off a little wonkey and obsurd.


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: JamesK on February 03, 2006, 11:19:18 AM
Mainland European Threatrical cut has the additional gore shots. Criterion's 80s Laserdisc released it in a widescreen digital format. Ive got it somewhere, Not much to shout about.. dosn't make a real difference to the film.

I agree.  I'm just passing on Scott's thoughts.  Apparently having a shot of the blood flowing freely over Roy's hands as he gouges out Tyrell's eyes is important to him.


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 03, 2006, 01:12:42 PM
I would love to see the work print also after having first read about in Future Noir.


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: bill carson on February 13, 2006, 05:25:11 PM
oh man.... I hope this really does get a release. Along with THE ROAD WARRIOR, it's the only film that I'm desperately awaiting a special edition dvd release for.  8)


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 14, 2006, 03:16:01 PM
At the warners site the release is being listed as a two disc SE of the Director's Cut. I guess I'll be buying...  ;D


Title: Re: Blade Runner SE Release 2007
Post by: Leone Admirer on May 26, 2006, 10:49:56 AM
Got this in my Variety email this morning. Excellent, nay fantastic, nay awesome news.

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Marathon 'Runner' 26/5/06
WB preps 'final cut' of sci-fi classic

By DIANE GARRETT

Warner homevid has disentangled "Blade Runner's" famously thorny rights issues to pave the way for a September reissue of the remastered "Director's Cut" version, followed by a theatrical release of a version promised to be truly Ridley Scott's final cut.

Warner's rights to "Blade Runner" lapsed a year ago, but the studio has since negotiated a long-term license. The pic, now considered a sci-fi classic, has had a troubled history from the start: When Scott ran overbudget, completion bond guarantors took control of it and made substantial changes before its 1982 theatrical release, adding a voiceover and happy ending. That version was replaced by the much better-received director's cut in 1992, but Scott has long been unhappy with it, complaining that he was rushed and unable to give it proper attention.

The helmer started working on the final cut version in 2000, but that project was shelved by Warner soon after, apparently because the studio couldn't come to terms with Jerry Perenchio over rights issues.

The restored "Director's Cut" will debut on homevid in September, and remain on sale for four months only, after which time it will be placed on moratorium. "Blade Runner: Final Cut" will arrive in 2007 for a limited 25th anniversary theatrical run, followed by a special edition DVD with the three previous versions offered as alternate viewing: Besides the original theatrical version and director's cut, the expanded international theatrical cut will be included. The set will also contain additional bonus materials.

The massive "Blade Runner" project comes on the heels of Scott's four-disc treatment for "Kingdom of Heaven," released this week by Fox homevid, less than a year after the pic's initial homevid release.


Title: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 17, 2007, 08:11:56 AM
As this year looks like to be THE year for Blade Runner fans I thought we should have a thread discussing the latest news on the DVD release, the theatrical release, the new version and our thoughts on this great film.

DVD Releases

Last October we had the release of the newly remastered (erroneously called) Blade Runner DC. It's a much better physical improvement over the original R1 release. This was a limited release for four months before it's pulled to make way for the next wave.

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews24/bladerunner.htm (http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews24/bladerunner.htm)

We are next greeted with a theatrical release of Ridley's new cut. This new cut contains new footage such as the original Unicorn dream sequence (different to the one in the DC), and the famous Holden hospital scene. There wil also be new CGI additions with new spinners and other elements of the degraded future LA enhanced as Ridley would have liked them back in it's original 82 release.

Then around this autumn we shall be treated to the DVD release all BR fans have been waiting for. A multidisc (apparently 3 at the current estimate) for the 25th Aniversary which should contrain 3 versions of the film, the new 25th aniversary defintive cut, the original theatrical cut and the International Version along with many, many extras all supervised by famed DVD producer Charlie de Lauzirika.

It would be an understatement if I said was really looking forward to this release. The fact that this was one of the first films I saw that sent me down the career path I am on now and having been in Sir Ridleys office, worked with people who were on this incredible film and owning original poster I'm finally glad that this film has been finally given the respectful home entertainment release it deserves.

Other Blade Runner Sources

Books

Future Noir: The Making of Blade Runner - By Paul M Sammon (rumours are Paul might be doing something very special for the 25th Aniversary which may mean an extended version of the book)

http://www.amazon.com/Future-Noir-Making-Blade-Runner/dp/0061053147/sr=1-5/qid=1171724214/ref=sr_1_5/103-5331635-0854244?ie=UTF8&s=books (http://www.amazon.com/Future-Noir-Making-Blade-Runner/dp/0061053147/sr=1-5/qid=1171724214/ref=sr_1_5/103-5331635-0854244?ie=UTF8&s=books)

The Blade Runner Experience: The Legacy of a Science Fiction Classic - By Will Brooker

http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Runner-Experience-Science-Fiction/dp/1904764304/sr=1-6/qid=1171724214/ref=sr_1_6/103-5331635-0854244?ie=UTF8&s=books (http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Runner-Experience-Science-Fiction/dp/1904764304/sr=1-6/qid=1171724214/ref=sr_1_6/103-5331635-0854244?ie=UTF8&s=books)

Blade Runner (BFI Modern Classics) - By Scott Bukatman

http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Runner-BFI-Modern-Classics/dp/0851706231/sr=1-4/qid=1171724214/ref=sr_1_4/103-5331635-0854244?ie=UTF8&s=books (http://www.amazon.com/Blade-Runner-BFI-Modern-Classics/dp/0851706231/sr=1-4/qid=1171724214/ref=sr_1_4/103-5331635-0854244?ie=UTF8&s=books)

The Game

http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-11462-Blade-Runner/dp/B00002EPYE/sr=8-8/qid=1171724571/ref=pd_bbs_8/103-5331635-0854244?ie=UTF8&s=videogames (http://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Arts-11462-Blade-Runner/dp/B00002EPYE/sr=8-8/qid=1171724571/ref=pd_bbs_8/103-5331635-0854244?ie=UTF8&s=videogames)

Websites

http://brmovie.com/ (http://brmovie.com/)

http://bladezone.com/ (http://bladezone.com/)

Original Blade Runner Props

http://www.propstore.com/product_info.php?pid=3729 (http://www.propstore.com/product_info.php?pid=3729)

Original Blade Runner Posters

http://www.filmposters.com/catalog/results.asp?ProdCat=&title=Blade+Runner&DIRECTOR=&star=&PosterSize=&Decade=&country=&B1=***++Search++***# (http://www.filmposters.com/catalog/results.asp?ProdCat=&title=Blade+Runner&DIRECTOR=&star=&PosterSize=&Decade=&country=&B1=***++Search++***#)



Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: pixelated on February 17, 2007, 01:49:50 PM
thanks for the info  O0

i still have the original release of the blade runner DC... will definitely be looking forward to the 25th anniversary release! i wasn't even aware there were new cuts available  :-[


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 17, 2007, 02:00:48 PM
Oh the different versions of Blade Runner and how they came about would make a fascinating movie in its own right, from the Indiana Jones style re-discovery of the work print in the early 90's to the aborted attempt of releasing the ultimate version back in 2001.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 17, 2007, 02:03:58 PM

enhanced as Ridley would have liked them back in it's original 82 release.


This sounds familiar. Didn't another science fiction classic get butchered and ruined because of something like that?
I was afraid of this, so I went out and bought the limited director's cut released in October. It may not be Ridley's final print, but it is HIS workprint made from notes he left on how it should be cut. Either way, that's a masterpiece!

Everything in the movie looks great, and has not dated at all. The spinners don't look that bad, no idea how flying cars are supposed to look anyway .


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 17, 2007, 02:12:36 PM
Right, sorry to dissapoint you Aguirre but the so called DC is not Ridleys Final cut. In the begining of the 90's with the re-discovery of the work print, Ridley was approached to do the DC of his film. He whole heartedly agreed and they started work, then it suddenly became bogged down. Trims and other footage that Ridley had asked for were unable to be found. The Unicorn dream is not Ridley's prefered take, merely an outtake that had to be used as the other couldn't be found. Time began to run out as WB had already pre-booked the DC into Theaters and Ridley found himself attached to another movie and was unable to help. He gave them some notes with which they were to follow (not like the detailed Welles notes for Touch Of Evil) and they restored the original ending. Ridley had set out to fix certain things, color timing on the shot of the dove at the end was one, re-inserting other scenes and shots back in (such as the Holden hospital sequence) was another and to fix a few other things. He was unable to do so and in fact the production of the DC was so rushed some of the original prints that went out were in poor shape. The Workprint is the version of the film alot of people want to see after this defintive cut (in which Ridley has been allowed to finally do what he wants to do with the film) as it contains alot of footage and other ideas that weren't encorporated into the final product. The international cut it notable as it includes a couple more seconds of violence, especially the fatal meeting between Roy and Tyrell near the end.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 17, 2007, 03:45:20 PM
I never said that it was his final cut, I said work print version.

The movie itself right now is perfect I think, I guess they could make it better, but we're talking technically better. I'm not excited to see his final final print of the movie. I've seen the Holden scene where he's in the hospital. I didn't learn anything new watching that. I guess it could be like James Cameron's extended version of Aliens where we learn why Ripley saves the little girl, since she feels a motherhood bond between her that she never had with her own child.

I don't feel that a few changes of timing, color sequence, different takes, or a few seconds of extra violence would enhance the picture in any way. I don't feel it is enough to go out and buy essentially what is the same movie for a third time. I mean, why would I want 3 "failed" versions of the movie that is the old director's cut, the international version, and the original theatrical version? That work print version is what Ridley Scott wanted on print, and it carries itself quite well while getting its point across.

People change, the same Scott 20 years ago would not want the same movie as the Ridley Scott who made Kingdom of Heaven. Every director sees something wrong with their work down the road, it's only human nature.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 17, 2007, 03:50:20 PM
Whoops, sorry Aguirre thats a typo on my part. But just to say Ridley himself has said that the DC is not his final version(and I know you said it wasn't) and it's really a work print still being worked on, and at the time if he had been able too work fully on the DC we would have come out with something quite different (we may have even have kept some bits of the VO as he has alluded to in some interviews)


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 17, 2007, 04:00:05 PM
Hey LA, I've only seen BR once when I was a kid and don't remember a lot about it but since you're an expert on this movie what was the Shaw Brothers role in this production? Were they co-producers? Co-financers? Was some of the film shot at their studio? I know the Shaws had a long relationship with Warners and the Shaws dabbled in numerous other American films such as Ridley's THE DUELLISTS.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 17, 2007, 04:05:40 PM
Well, no idea how it could be totally different, but I was going to get it (with a coupon or a sort of discount) for the commentary. Since Ridley Scott usually very boring commentaries, and I usually can't hear it all the way through, I'll probably just avoid it.

If Deer Hunter gets released in Cimino's originally intended 4 hour cut, I wouldn't jump to get that at all. Since the film was successful and got its point across and is technically excellent as it is, I don't see the point in getting it. Same with Once Upon a Time in America as well. Leone intended a 4 hour Good Bad Ugly, I don't see people wanting to see that badly.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 17, 2007, 04:12:12 PM
Hey LA, I've only seen BR once when I was a kid and don't remember a lot about it but since you're an expert on this movie what was the Shaw Brothers role in this production? Were they co-producers? Co-financers? Was some of the film shot at their studio? I know the Shaws had a long relationship with Warners and the Shaws dabbled in numerous other American films such as Ridley's THE DUELLISTS.

I believe Sir Run Run Shaw was a producer on the film. It was shot on location in LA and at the WB studios. I think it was Shaw who asked (and eventually got their wish) to fire Ridley. Go see it again Arizona, especially in the upcoming Theatrical Showing. It is such a wonderful and powerful film. Tech Noir at it's best.

Aguirre, I agree the 4 hour cut would be a bit much (though I suspect there were 100's who would love to own it) but the Theatrical Cut was not what Ridley wanted, the DC is getting towards what Ridley wanted, and the final cut is supposed to be what Ridley has always wanted. Different to the DC of Alien which Ridley freely admits is not his DC, really the theatrical cut is Ridleys final cut, but Fox wanted him to do something with it for the 25th Aniversary.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 17, 2007, 04:26:32 PM
Actually, Ridley Scott wanted a 3 hour version of Alien. The studio got him down to 2 hours. The ending is different than what he wanted, it was the Alien killing Ripley and speaking into console with its own voice. Can anyone say "what the fuck?".
Alien is a different story though, the studio just gave the fans a version in which they wanted to see all the deleted scenes incorporated.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 17, 2007, 04:40:10 PM
True but Ridley now says the Theatrical Cut is the perfect cut of the movie. It's what he feels is his DC not the one that as you say encorporates a lot of (if not all the deleted scenes). It's interesting that the new Alien cut runs shorter then the Theatrical Cut, quite unusual in DC's. Aguirre, have you seen the Alien 3 workprint? Now that is one hell of an improvement then the TC.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 17, 2007, 05:32:32 PM
No, but I would love to see the Alien3 Work Print. I was going to rent it but my girlfriend stopped me. I ended up paying for her stuff too. Maybe staying a virgin is underrated.  :-X

I have not seen the last 2 Alien films unfortunately. Although I did see AVP and it was a total mess. How is the last one in director's cut?

What I really want to see from Scott is Legend and the Duelists. The former being cut until recently.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 17, 2007, 05:36:17 PM
Alien Resurrection is a bad, bad film. Never want to go near that thing again  :-\


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 17, 2007, 05:43:41 PM
and Legend?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 17, 2007, 05:47:04 PM
I haven't seen Legend yet, bit embarassing really as I know one of the editorial staff who worked on it  :-[


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Jon1 on February 17, 2007, 09:01:42 PM
Maybe staying a virgin is underrated.  :-X

Hahaha


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 17, 2007, 10:49:13 PM
Hahaha

I figured someone would like that lol

The point of my ranting is that the Ridley Scott that made Gladiator and Black Hawk Down, would not want the same film as the Ridley Scott that made Bladerunner and Alien.

Think about it.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 18, 2007, 06:38:08 AM
True but Ridley is not  remaking Blade Runner. In his (and most fans) eyes Blade Runner in the cuts we have before have never been his final vision. He's merely picking up basically from when he was fired and tyring to finish the job he started back in 1982. This isn't like Lucas who one day looked back at Star Wars and thought, nah I'm not happy with this, or that, Ridley has never been fully happy with the versions of Blade Runner that have come out. He has tried to revist it many a time and was finally able to in 2001. This version is already 6 years old but has been held back due to legal difficulties. Take Brazil, Gilliam's Blade Runner. He finally created his ultimate directors version some years after the theatrical release and it was heralded as improved version of a great film. Apocalypse Now Redux is a thorny issue as some like it, some don't but that was a director and one of the original editors (Walter Murch) going back from the begining straight from the dalies and ironically basically creating a cut that mirrors the original release almost perfectly despite the nearly 30 years difference between the post-production of the two. This isn't someone re-interpreting Ridleys wises (aka Pat Garett) but this is Ridley taking the work print as the bench mark (Which he would have done back in 82) and working on from their with Terry Rawlings the original editor.

Point I'm trying to make is that Ridley is picking up the post from where he left off back in 82. He's not completely fitting out the bike, he just wants improvements on shots he probably would have asked to have been re-done at the time, and putting back footage that he felt works, especially since the Workprint proved by audience reaction that they worked.

I don't agree with you but I respect your opinion. Yes Ridley has changed but with what feedback has come from this version, it could be for the better.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 18, 2007, 06:51:31 PM
Actually, I've been somewhat of a jerk on this thread. The CGI thing just really threw me my expectations off. It is coming out in theaters in a limited release, I'll probably end up seeing it 3 times or so.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 18, 2007, 06:52:17 PM
I apologise too, Blade Runner brings out the passion in all us fans  :D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 19, 2007, 11:31:49 AM
Originally ALIEN was to be a Roger Corman film but I believe it was Dan O'Bannon who rallied against that. The wonderful sets J. Cameron and crew had built were used in the deliriously fun 1981 cult favorite GALAXY OF TERROR.

I saw an interview with Scott I think on the exhaustively info packed ALIEN QUADRILOGY where he said the reason he made the film shorter was to tighten some of the slower moving sequences.

What was the reason that Shaw requested his dismissal? Was Scott running over schedule or Shaw was dissatisfied with the dailies?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 19, 2007, 03:54:55 PM
A little bit of both, + the crew hated his guts, Harrison didn't like him and it seemed like the film was going to spiral out of control. Despite being fired Ridley just kept showing up.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Arizona Colt on February 20, 2007, 01:01:11 PM
I had heard Scott could be difficult. Thanks LA for the background info that is sometimes more interesting the  films themselves.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 20, 2007, 01:34:27 PM
Blade Runner has a great backstory. I recomend picking up the Paul M. Sammon book Future Noir: The making of Blade Runner which'll hold you with background Blade Runner info before the boxset is released this autumn.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 20, 2007, 02:12:26 PM
I wonder why Harrison Ford is really shy about Bladerunner in interviews. Maybe he's used to being in blockbusters.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Leone Admirer on February 20, 2007, 03:40:38 PM
Ford and Ridley fell out during the making of the film. He has said that he feels Blade Runner is a film "About a detective that doesn't do much detecting" and has been mostly negative about it. A recent interview does show that his feelings towards it have perhaps thawed. It's a shame because I think it's one of Harrison's best roles.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Aguirre on February 20, 2007, 07:27:01 PM
Hmmm, I wonder if Scott gave him the book to read. Sometimes actors will do that to get a better sense of the character. Then again, Deckard wasn't a replicant in the novel.

Way better than the movie IMO. Well, aren't all movies like that?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on June 20, 2007, 11:18:43 AM
I re-watched it the other day after several years,such a great movie.
I hope a remake won't be made any time soon...


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sonny on June 20, 2007, 04:44:07 PM

I hope a remake won't be made any time soon...

..or ever..for that matter.  Most remakes are just useless disasters with high budgets. This would be no different.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on June 21, 2007, 12:06:24 AM
..or ever..for that matter.  Most remakes are just useless disasters with high budgets. This would be no different.

Yeah,it would be nice to think it will never be made,but it's highly unbelievable.
Blade Runner is one of those films that practically everybody heard about,it's reputation is huge,and even if someone doesn't like the movie he'll tell you that is absolutely great.And there's the rabbit,the big studios won't (ever) miss the chance to make money.It doesn't mean if the remake is crappy that they won't make a huge profit,think about it.Most people will go see it out of pure curiosity,or rent a DVD,those who like it will buy themselves a copy,the other part will return to the old version,and you have profit again.
Someone once said:Write anything about me,bad or good I don't care,just get my name right...It's the same thing with movies/remakes-there is no such thing as bad publicity,who cares if it won't be good...


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Silenzio on June 25, 2007, 01:05:05 AM
I watched this movie for the first time last week.... Wow.

Within the next few days I saw a trailer for the final cut on tv while I was watching the AFI top 100 countdown.  I am so psyched.  Any word on just how limited the release will be in theatres.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Firecracker on June 25, 2007, 01:12:53 AM


Way better than the movie IMO. Well, aren't all movies like that?


Nah, Stephen King's novel "The Shining" is a schlocky mess. Kubrick's movie is a masterpeice.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Silenzio on June 25, 2007, 01:14:56 AM
Kubrick's movie is a masterpeice.

I never thought you'd use "Kubrick" and "masterpiece" in the same sentence.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: The Firecracker on June 25, 2007, 01:22:24 AM
I never thought you'd use "Kubrick" and "masterpiece" in the same sentence.

He has his moments...

PATHS OF GLORY
BARRY LYNDON
THE KILLING
and
SHINING

but alot of his work is overrated.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on June 25, 2007, 09:59:07 AM
I watched this movie for the first time last week.... Wow.
I envy you a little...I don't remember when was the first time I saw it,but I do remember liking it very much.
It's one of those movies that one can watch and watch again! O0


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Silenzio on June 27, 2007, 10:55:40 PM
I envy you a little...I don't remember when was the first time I saw it,but I do remember liking it very much.
It's one of those movies that one can watch and watch again! O0

Yes, some of the moments from this film have been lingering in my mind ever since.

"I want more life, f*cker!"

"It's too bad she won't live... but then again, who does."


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on June 28, 2007, 03:50:54 PM
"It's too bad she won't live... but then again, who does."

That's a great one!


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe...




Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: TheUgly17 on June 28, 2007, 04:27:43 PM
I just saw the movie for the first time last night. And after watching Deadwood for the past week I was delighted to see  the actor who played EB Barnum as Sebastian. Good movie, could have used a sub plot for Rachel. I liked it, kicked ass.

What the hell was up with that solider toy Sebastian had? The one with the long nose and braces...freaky shit.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: noodles_leone on June 28, 2007, 04:41:50 PM
Way better than the movie IMO. Well, aren't all movies like that?

I have never read The Hoods. Still, I'm pretty sure OUATIA is (i cannot find a superlative strong enough) better.

I read Mystic River and saw the movie... I know that many people won't agree, but if Lehanne's book is good, Clint's movie is IMO not far from being a masterpiece.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sonny on June 30, 2007, 06:25:55 PM
I never thought you'd use "Kubrick" and "masterpiece" in the same sentence.

Ha!! soooo true..!! FC barely overates anything, especially not Kubrick


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on July 26, 2007, 09:09:37 AM
http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=65403

HD/BRD info: http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=65404


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on October 01, 2007, 11:31:23 PM
The Final Cut reviewed: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/30/movies/30kapl.html?_r=1&oref=slogin


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on October 08, 2007, 08:57:01 PM
Dave Hunt at thedigitalbits.com gives a run-down of changes to the new cut of the film:

 
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Scores of subtle digital changes and tweaks have been made to correct problems that couldn't be addressed during the original production. For example, the wires supporting the practical, on-set Spinner vehicles have been removed. In a couple of street shots, members of the production crew accidentally appeared in the edges of the frame - they're gone now. Various matte lines have been erased, and detail that was lost due to matte issues has been restored. When you see the infamous "eye" shot at the beginning of the film, the optical printing process employed at the time wouldn't allow for a moving image of the eye to be used. So now, in The Final Cut, you'll notice the pupil iris slightly in reaction to the plume of fire billowing before it.

Other digital corrections fix continuity errors. In the original shooting script, Leon and Deckard fought in the street before Zhora was retired, so the make-up reflected this on set. When the film was edited together, however, Leon and Deckard's fight was moved to after Zhora's retirement. But the bruise on Deckard's face from the fight was still there, before the fight actually happened on screen, so it's been erased digitally. In another instance, the first time you see Roy Batty on screen in the sidewalk Vidphone booth, the shots were actually stolen from later in the film (a moment of Roy at the Tyrell Corporation, I believe, and a shot of him in the Bradbury building). So the lighting and the backgrounds you saw in those shots didn't match the booth or the rain-soaked streets behind it. Now they do. There's also a scene where Deckard is talking to an old Asian woman about the snake scale he's found. She's reading a serial number from a microscope... but when you saw that serial number on the screen, it didn't match. Now it does. The vast majority of these digital effects tweaks are so subtle that only fans who are intimately familiar with the film will even notice them.

On the other hand, a few of the digital fixes correct more serious problems with the film in its previous incarnations. For example, when Roy releases the dove at the end of the film, the skyline in the shot where the bird flies away just didn't match anything you'd seen before. So a new digital L.A. cityscape, circa 2019, was created for the shot so that it does finally match. There's also a shot when Deckard is talking to the snake dealer, Abdul Ben-Hassan. You hear Deckard talking, but his lip movements didn't match the dialogue. Harrison Ford was unavailable due to scheduling issues, so his son Ben was brought in correct this. Ben was shot on an effects stage from exactly the same angle, wearing exactly the same scar (via make-up) that his father has on his chin, saying the correct lines. His mouth was digitally inserted over his father's seamlessly.

Of course, many of you by now know of the infamous reshoot (from earlier this year) featuring the character Zhora. When news of this leaked on the Net, it sparked an outcry from fans who feared that Ridley was pulling a George Lucas and drastically altering the film with all new scenes. Nothing could be further from the truth, of course, but the Zhora reshoot was what triggered the most controversy, so here's what it was about: Back in 1982, actress Joanna Cassidy wasn't allowed to do the stunt where Zhora crashes through the window panes. But if you watch the film closely, especially now in high-definition, it's painfully obvious that it's a stuntwoman in those shots. I mean, it's not even close. The woman has a bad afro-like wig on and it's bouncing around so much in those shots that she looks like Ronald McDonald going through the glass. So Cassidy was brought back in, dressed in her original costume and was given the same snake tattoo on her face. Then she was shot on a greenscreen stage, going through the same movements as the stuntwoman. Her face and body angles were matched to the original stuntwoman frame by frame, so they're identical. Cassidy's head was then digitally inserted over the stuntwoman's and it was blended together, color-corrected and matched seamlessly. So now, when you see Zhora crash through the glass, it's actually Zhora all the way through.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Sonny on October 16, 2007, 11:09:29 AM

So... which would you say is the best version to have??

FC made a good point the other day when he said that with so many versions it's hard to tell which is the "best". 


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on October 16, 2007, 10:04:26 PM
There isn't much to choose amongst 'em (unless you love the Harrison Ford voice-over) but I expect the Final Cut will be the best looking version.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on October 25, 2007, 12:11:31 AM
http://www.tcm.com/movienews/index/?cid=185220 (http://www.tcm.com/movienews/index/?cid=185220) O0


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on October 25, 2007, 10:13:26 AM
i have never seen bladerunner but really wanna see it badly. should i just go get it now or wait for this new SE version?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: moviesceleton on October 25, 2007, 11:05:27 AM
i have never seen bladerunner but really wanna see it badly. should i just go get it now or wait for this new SE version?
The Final Cut sounds like the best version.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Mw/NNrules on October 25, 2007, 04:49:34 PM
I've never seen the theatrical, but I really liked the director's cut. I'm not sure that I understand it all, though.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on October 31, 2007, 11:56:14 PM
While Groggy and Roy were out trying to cadge free candy last night, I turned out the lights, put a Scrooge doll in the window, and went to see The Final Cut at the Cinerama (where I saw the original theatrical release 25 years ago). Man, does this new print look gorgeous. And the soundtrack: I learned again how great the music for this movie truly is. Such artistry is no compensation, however, for the film's clunky dialog and the idiotic plot. I've seen this film probably 10 times now (in its various forms), but I can probably go to my grave without bothering with it again. The Blu-ray disc is going to look amazing, but I'll be passing on it.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on December 11, 2007, 12:55:54 PM
Hmmmmm: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDReviews24/bladerunner.htm

EDIT: And again, hmmmmm: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews34/bladerunner-4-disc.htm


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on December 12, 2007, 04:16:07 AM
I'm thinking of rewarding myself this Christmas.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on December 12, 2007, 12:17:58 PM
DVDSavant's review: http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s2474blad.html


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on December 14, 2007, 09:47:03 AM
And finally: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews34/blade_runner_HD_Blu-ray.htm


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on January 10, 2008, 07:50:03 PM
So do you guys think Deckard is a Replicant?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 10, 2008, 07:51:42 PM
I believe Deckard is Harrison Ford  :D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 08:00:30 PM
So do you guys think Deckard is a Replicant?

There are a lot of speculations saying that he is.
Particulary concerning how his ex-boss Bryant treats him, when he whistles Deckard has arrive. Although he could also be just and ex-con, and so has to buy his freedom catching dangerous replicants...


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 08:02:01 PM
It is probably like discussing if Harmonica is a ''death angel'' or not.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on January 10, 2008, 08:05:30 PM
It is probably like discussing if Harmonica is a ''death angel'' or not.

So lets do it! Make multiple topics and have endless arguments!

I personally think he is because Deckard has photos dating way way in the past (Replicants use photos as a way to remeber). I'll wait for a counter argument.



Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 10, 2008, 08:06:18 PM
My guess is he's human but there are certain things that gives me doubts. like that origami unicorn, how the hell does Gaff know about Deckards dreams?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 08:10:02 PM
I personally think he is because Deckard has photos dating way way in the past (Replicants use photos as a way to remeber). I'll wait for a counter argument.

But that can also mean the opposite thing - that he's a real man. He had a life before he became a BR.

But where would he get such a personalized picture?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 10, 2008, 08:14:01 PM
well they did manage to make personalized photos for Rachael, why not for deckard?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 08:14:31 PM
My guess is he's human but there are certain things that gives me doubts. like that origami unicorn, how the hell does Gaff know about Deckards dreams?

This is a good argument.

So you think Gaff somewhere read what implants/memories have they used on him (like he knew about the spider in Rachael's memory)?

But why would they all be so shocked when they heard the Tyrell Corporation used implants (supposedly) for the first time on Rachael?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 08:15:22 PM
well they did manage to make personalized photos for Rachael, why not for deckard?

I can't remember those...


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 10, 2008, 08:24:04 PM
This is a good argument.

So you think Gaff somewhere read what implants/memories have they used on him (like he knew about the spider in Rachael's memory)?

But why would they all be so shocked when they heard the Tyrell Corporation used implants (supposedly) for the first time on Rachael?
I imagine Gaff would have to, unless he can read minds. If Deckard had dreamt of a horse instead of a unicorn, Gaffs origami could have a coincident or a symbol of Deckards triumph but the fact that it's a unicorn makes it seem like more of a coincident

I dont remember if Gaff was at Tyrell or not but if it was just deckard i doubt they would tell him he's a replicant. If they were to tell him that would make him reluctant to go after the Replicants, being as he is one himself.

I can't remember those...
When Rachael goes to Deckard's apartment she showed him photos of herself with her mother


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on January 10, 2008, 08:26:45 PM
I can't remember those...

In the scene where Racheal goes to Deckard she tries to prove shes not a replicant by showing Deckard a picture of her "Mother".


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on January 10, 2008, 08:32:29 PM
tuco, i want to read on how you think Deckard is human?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 08:37:04 PM
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I dont remember if Gaff was at Tyrell or not but if it was just deckard i doubt they would tell him he's a replicant. If they were to tell him that would make him reluctant to go after the Replicants, being as he is one himself.

Hehe, my young padawan, you forgot something. Remember what Deckard tells Eldon Tyrell (after he tested Rachael)?
 - ''How can it not know what it is?'' (...and then the implants/memories part of the discussion comes.)

Why would he kill other replicants? - For many things; freedom, life, money...


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 08:39:19 PM
tuco, i want to read on how you think Deckard is human?

I don't think he's a human, but I don't know for sure he's a replicant either. I'm willing to discuss this.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 10, 2008, 08:50:42 PM
Hehe, my young padawan, you forgot something. Remember what Deckard tells Eldon Tyrell (after he tested Rachael)?
 - ''How can it not know what it is?'' (...and then the implants/memories part of the discussion comes.)

Why would he kill other replicants? - For many things; freedom, life, money...
well in that case why wouldn't he turn in Rachael, after all she's just a replicant too


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 08:52:28 PM
well in that case why wouldn't he turn in Rachael, after all she's just a replicant too

Because he has a thing for her, maybe we could even call it love. What do you think?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 08:53:33 PM
But what's bothering me is that I can't remember Rachael giving Deckard photos...  :-\


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 10, 2008, 09:09:50 PM
Because he has a thing for her, maybe we could even call it love. What do you think?
Love? Never heard of it!
Well either way Replicants and Humans are practically the same on a intellectual and emotional level so its really rather pointless to discuss his feelings as he would still have them, replicant or not. i only stated that he would be reluctant to hunt replicants, in the same manner that a human would be reluctant to kill a human. But in the end, they're all susceptable to the same sins.

- ''How can it not know what it is?''

well i dont know, how do any of us know who we are? A pretty existential question, with no definitive way to answer. Ultimately, we can never truely know weather he's a replicant or not, which is what i like about this film. when i first watched it the idea of him being a replicant didn't even cross my mind but when the question is raised it made me wonder.
hurray for ambiguity!

PS. im having a total brain fart i cant remember which "weather" is the right "weather"?  :o


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: tucumcari bound on January 10, 2008, 09:23:15 PM
So do you guys think Deckard is a Replicant?

It all depends on which version you prefer. I don't think there's a right or wrong answer here. That's what is brilliant about this film is after 20 years, we're still debating this very topic. My head tells me he's human, but my heart says he's a replicant, especially after viewing the "Final Cut."


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 09:23:34 PM
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well i dont know, how do any of us know who we are? A pretty existential question, with no definitive way to answer.

Yes, of course, we can't know for sure, but I don't mind hearing what people think about the subject.

But being a replicant or a human must have differences, otherwise he wouldn't ask ''How can it not know what it is?'' , I Don't know how, but they somehow know that they are not humans.

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Well either way Replicants and Humans are practically the same on a intellectual and emotional level so its really rather pointless to discuss his feelings as he would still have them, replicant or not. i only stated that he would be reluctant to hunt replicants, in the same manner that a human would be reluctant to kill a human. But in the end, they're all susceptable to the same sins.

Actually that variates from 'model' to 'model'.

He has a thing for Rachael, that's why he doesn't kill her, AND she saved his life. We can leave love out.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 09:24:09 PM
PS. im having a total brain fart i cant remember which "weather" is the right "weather"?  :o

I don't get this...  ???


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 10, 2008, 09:35:26 PM
I don't get this...  ???
i was confused how as to what was the homophone to "weather" (like rain, snow etv) which i know remember is whether


He has a thing for Rachael, that's why he doesn't kill her, AND she saved his life. We can leave love out.
i thought the robo-bootycall would have been enough to repay her for saving his life, but i guess thats not enough nowadays, now all of the sudden people would rather "live".


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 09:45:02 PM
i was confused how as to what was the homophone to "weather" (like rain, snow etv) which i know remember is whether

Aha, it bothered me also some time ago.

i thought the robo-bootycall would have been enough to repay her for saving his life, but i guess thats not enough nowadays, now all of the sudden people would rather "live".

Hehe. He didn't actually save her life, it's not like they went away and lived happily ever after... She'll die in a couple of years, so I'd say he just made a choice. Or maybe...

... he's also a replicant, and he'll too die in a couple of years so it was all the same...  ;)


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 10, 2008, 09:54:31 PM
Hehe. He didn't actually save her life, it's not like they went away and lived happily ever after... She'll die in a couple of year, so I'd say he just made a choice. Or maybe...

... he's also a replicant, and he'll too die in a couple of years so it was all the same...  ;)
it all goes back to the ending line "It's too bad she won't live; but then again, who does".
lots of great line in this movie, like the "tears in the rain" bit, but my favorite..........



"Horse dick! No way. You are the Blade… Blade Runner."[


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 09:57:32 PM
Yeah, we'll have to get Leone Admirer into this. He's the greatest fan of BR here on the board, but hasn't posted in a long time.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 10, 2008, 09:58:45 PM
That's what is brilliant about this film is after 20 years, we're still debating this very topic.

Liar. You confessed that you like ''Alien'' more!


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on January 10, 2008, 11:09:08 PM
So do you guys think Deckard is a Replicant?
Going with the idea that "He who smelt it, dealt it" I'd say this is just a ploy to divert us from the realization that Kurug3n is a replicant. :D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: tucumcari bound on January 11, 2008, 08:19:51 AM
Going with the idea that "He who smelt it, dealt it" I'd say this is just a ploy to divert us from the realization that Kurug3n is a replicant. :D

I'd say we have a few replicants on this forum! Time to put them into retirement.  :)


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: tucumcari bound on January 12, 2008, 08:34:05 AM
Someone answer me this....

If Deckard is in fact a replicant, then why doesn't the colorization of his eyes change? Throughout the film, replicants Roy Batty, Rachael, Pris, and Leon Kowalski's eyes appear to change.

I'm not arguing with anybody who thinks Deckard is a replicant. After viewing the DC and Final Cut's of the film, I have my doubts that he's human as well. We see Deckard the most out of anybody in the film and you never see his eyes change. He appears human all the way through. Doesn't this go against what Ridley is saying and in fact he didn't know himself that Deckard was human or not at the time of filming?


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on January 12, 2008, 01:43:08 PM
Someone answer me this....

If Deckard is in fact a replicant, then why doesn't the colorization of his eyes change? Throughout the film, replicants Roy Batty, Rachael, Pris, and Leon Kowalski's eyes appear to change.

His eyes do change very briefly in the scene where he's in his bathroom after Racheal saved him from that one replicant.



Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: tucumcari bound on January 12, 2008, 05:09:12 PM
His eyes do change very briefly in the scene where he's in his bathroom after Racheal saved him from that one replicant.



mmmm, I know the scene you're talking about but I don't remember his eyes changing. I'll have to revisit that again. The replicant who Racheal saved Deckard from was Leon Kowalski.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on January 12, 2008, 07:32:40 PM
I'd say this is just a ploy to divert us from the realization that Kurug3n is a replicant. :D

Who knows :-\ in 3 more years lets find out O0


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 12, 2008, 08:12:15 PM
Who knows :-\ in 3 more years lets find out O0
sorry thats too long were gonna have to retire you now. Dont want to take any chances now do we?  >:D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on January 13, 2008, 08:29:52 PM
sorry thats too long were gonna have to retire you now. Dont want to take any chances now do we?  >:D

Whoa! Shouldnt i get the test? O0


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 13, 2008, 08:42:23 PM
Whoa! Shouldnt i get the test? O0
nope sorry, i left the Voight-Kampff machine in the other hover car.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on January 13, 2008, 08:48:43 PM
nope sorry, i left the Voight-Kampff machine in the other hover car.

Well i still get the right to a fair trial right? I thought this was america!


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 13, 2008, 08:54:05 PM
Well i still get the right to a fair trial right? I thought this was america!
it WAS america, since 2012 Southern California became it's own country, the kind that rules with martial law. screw habeas corpus  >:D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 13, 2008, 08:59:02 PM
I've never even seen those 'eye changing' parts on my old VHS copy... :D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Kurug3n on January 13, 2008, 09:00:45 PM
it WAS america, since 2012 Southern California became it's own country, the kind that rules with martial law. screw habeas corpus  >:D

Damn! WAIT! For all i know you could be a replicant also!

I've never even seen those 'eye changing' parts on my old VHS copy... :D

Well if its the copy where theres a narrator talking throughout the movie then i can only say... BURN IT TO HELL! >:D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 13, 2008, 09:02:34 PM
I've never even seen those 'eye changing' parts on my old VHS copy... :D
it's possible it happend after they started remastering it. then again you probably dont get a very well definition on them VHS's, do ya?  :D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 13, 2008, 09:03:49 PM
Damn! WAIT! For all i know you could be a replicant also!
Well that's impossible. My mommy told me i was special so there!  :P


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 13, 2008, 09:04:45 PM
Well if its the copy where theres a narrator talking throughout the movie then i can only say... BURN IT TO HELL! >:D

No, it isn't. On this one there's absolutely no way to figure out what are they talking about anymore... :-[ :'( ;D

it's possible it happend after they started remastering it. then again you probably dont get a very well definition on them VHS's, do ya?  :D

Nah, I've been waiting for this 'final ultimate whatsoever' edition too long. I don't have patience anymore... >:(


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 22, 2008, 11:26:24 AM
So whats the deal with the unicorn? whats the meaning to it?

the only meaning to it i can see is that it might represent Deckards longing for an organic world (which in his world is nonexistant). But if that were the case wouldn't have been just as good if he had a dream of a white stallion instead of a silly unicorn? the unicorn makes the dream sort of archeatypical and cliche.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 28, 2008, 09:14:33 PM
So whats the deal with the unicorn? whats the meaning to it?

He wants a horn like his, that's the whole story.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on January 28, 2008, 09:23:55 PM
So whats the deal with the unicorn? whats the meaning to it?

the only meaning to it i can see is that it might represent Deckards longing for an organic world (which in his world is nonexistant). But if that were the case wouldn't have been just as good if he had a dream of a white stallion instead of a silly unicorn? the unicorn makes the dream sort of archeatypical and cliche.
Nahh, it's a flashback.  Deckard is remembering when he used to be a unicorn on the Unicorn Planet, before Tyrell brought him to earth and transformed him into a replicant.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 28, 2008, 09:32:05 PM
Nahh, it's a flashback.  Deckard is remembering when he used to be a unicorn on the Unicorn Planet, before Tyrell brought him to earth and transformed him into a replicant.
O M G that makes perfect sense! this revelation only deepens the theme of what it means to be human! I mean what if we were replicants of unicorns ourselves! It would make sense since i too have many dreams involving unicorns. But then again i also have dreams involving, midgets, katana's, and female porn stars. In that case i must be a midget samurai pornstar unicorn replicant. Quick someone help me get back to my home planet now!  :D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 28, 2008, 09:36:36 PM
You dream of midget samurai porn stars with razor horns? Man, you're one sick bastard.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Atlas2112 on January 28, 2008, 09:55:20 PM
who said anything about a razor horn? a normal horn would do just fine  O0


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 28, 2008, 09:57:11 PM
Ah, it's OK then! I thought there was something wrong with you. ;D


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on January 28, 2008, 10:43:42 PM
In that case i must be a midget samurai pornstar unicorn replicant. Quick someone help me get back to my home planet now!  :D
Nahh, there should be plenty of work for you right here.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: moviesceleton on January 29, 2008, 08:07:15 AM
I don't know if this has already been mentioned (didn't feel like reading the whole thread) and I've seen the movie only once, but one thing that I noticed was that a great deal of Asian culture was visible. In ads in the streets and stuff like that. There are theories according to which Asian culture is going to surpass the Anglo-American culture now dominant. Was this predicted already in the 80s? ???


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 29, 2008, 08:57:34 AM
I don't know if this has already been mentioned (didn't feel like reading the whole thread) and I've seen the movie only once, but one thing that I noticed was that a great deal of Asian culture was visible. In ads in the streets and stuff like that. There are theories according to which Asian culture is going to surpass the Anglo-American culture now dominant. Was this predicted already in the 80s? ???

It sure is possible, 1.5 billion Chinese + the Japanese and the others. I don't know when it was 'predicted' though.


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: Tuco the ugly on January 29, 2008, 11:31:42 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7o0rvVxU0w&feature=related


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: dave jenkins on January 30, 2008, 08:58:58 AM
That smile at the end undercuts what he's saying . . .


Title: Re: The Blade Runner Infomation and Appreciation Thread
Post by: noodles_leone on October 10, 2017, 02:24:06 AM
Sketches and artworks created before production:
http://goonies1632.free.fr/bftp/Blade%20Runner%20Sketchbook.pdf

A little video highlighting the differences between the 3 main versions of Blade Runner (the 82 theatrical cut, the director's cut and the final cut):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n70PtKIhitA