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Title: A History of Violence
Post by: scram113 on March 30, 2006, 02:09:52 AM
Sorry if this has been discussed to death already... but did anyone catch the OUATITW homage at the beginning of David Cronenberg's "A History of Violence"?  (Either a homage or a rip-off or a big ass coincidence, anyway...)


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: cigar joe on March 30, 2006, 05:04:37 AM
No, didn't even hear about it till just now.


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: The Firecracker on March 30, 2006, 10:16:42 AM
Sorry if this has been discussed to death already... but did anyone catch the OUATITW homage at the beginning of David Cronenberg's "A History of Violence"?  (Either a homage or a rip-off or a big ass coincidence, anyway...)

Saw the film...where is the homage? The only thing I can think of is that everything was silent for a good two minutes in the beginning of "History of violence".


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: dave jenkins on March 30, 2006, 05:54:50 PM
You're talking about the shooting of the little kid, right? Yeah, I noticed.


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: The Firecracker on March 31, 2006, 01:19:52 AM
You're talking about the shooting of the little kid, right? Yeah, I noticed.

you know I faintly remember me thinking about "Once Upon A Time in The West" while watching that scene in HOV(which of course killing the kid was off screen) and I remember a woman behind me give out a pretty big gasp, and i thought to myself...

"wow! Nothing has changed since the sixties has it? Kiling kids is still not part of the norm for movie going audiences"


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: scram113 on April 01, 2006, 02:47:56 AM
Yeah, the "homage" (I assume) was at the end of that loooong quiet first scene, when one of the killers is in the office with the dead folks, and a little girl comes into the office.  The killer puts a finger to his lips, pulls his gun and aims it at her (pointing to the end of the frame, not at the camera) and at the moment the gun goes off the film cuts to a different little girl waking up screaming.  Not exactly the same as OUATITW, but I figure an established filmmaker like Cronenberg HAS to be familiar with Leone, so it couldn't just be a coincidence... anyway it was a little thing but every time I see a Leone homage in a new film I go completely nuts (you should've seen me when I first saw the Kill Bills)


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: themroc on April 02, 2006, 02:01:37 PM
When I watched it I also got the feeling that Cronenberg is doing a nice hommage (verbal silence and crickets on the soundtrack, the killing of the kid etc.). Because of that I checked out Cronenberg's audio commentary but he does not mention anything. Mybe its really just a coincidence or Cronenberg was unknowingly quoting. I mean by that: He watched OUATITW some years ago and shooting a similar scene he had just the feeling he should shoot it this way -  without consciously remembering OUATITW. By the way: V for Vendetta had also a definitve Leone-hommage: The masked hero V is confronting some bad guys and makes them empty their guns on him. After that... he drops his metal protection and kills them. Very much FAFOD...


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: Kurugen on October 15, 2006, 12:01:56 PM
yeah this movie sucked  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: The Firecracker on October 15, 2006, 01:06:23 PM
yeah this movie sucked  ;D ;D ;D

care to give examples?


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: Kurugen on October 15, 2006, 01:30:46 PM
care to give examples?

Too slow,Somewhat predictable,and when his son caught that fly ball and that guy picked on him COME ON,so stupid.


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: T.H. on October 20, 2006, 11:40:34 AM
AHOV was a lot better when it was called "Unforgiven". I really disliked AHOV, I didn't buy it as a drama, social commentary, satire, or a combination of the three.


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: Kurugen on October 20, 2006, 03:22:14 PM
AHOV was a lot better when it was called "Unforgiven". I really disliked AHOV, I didn't buy it as a drama, social commentary, satire, or a combination of the three.

It would have still sucked if it was called Unforgiven and Unforgiven (the Clint Eastwood movie) did suck too. :) :)


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: Silenzio on October 21, 2006, 07:36:19 AM
It would have still sucked if it was called Unforgiven and Unforgiven (the Clint Eastwood movie) did suck too. :) :)

I've had enough of your preaching about the "suckiness" of Unforgiven.

(sorry if I'm a little hostile)


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: tucumcari bound on October 21, 2006, 11:00:24 AM
Unforgiven is a classic, come on now.


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: Silenzio on October 21, 2006, 11:42:55 AM
Unforgiven is a classic, come on now.

I agree.


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: Kurugen on October 21, 2006, 12:04:09 PM
I've had enough of your preaching about the "suckiness" of Unforgiven.

(sorry if I'm a little hostile)

Allright let me say um overated. Sure it has some good scenes like when he starts to drink again and that kid talks about how that was the first person he killed.But other than that i didnt really care much for it and i do think its overated.


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: The Peacemaker on October 21, 2006, 02:05:20 PM
Allright let me say um overated. Sure it has some good scenes like when he starts to drink again and that kid talks about how that was the first person he killed.But other than that i didnt really care much for it and i do think its overated.

Much better.  ;)

I do think Unforgiven is a bit overrated, but I still think it's one fine movie.


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: Kurugen on October 21, 2006, 10:01:20 PM
Much better.  ;)

I do think Unforgiven is a bit overrated, but I still think it's one fine movie.

Thats the same thing i hear about how Saw is a "good" horror movie  ;D


Title: Re: A History of Violence
Post by: The Peacemaker on October 21, 2006, 10:41:06 PM
Thats the same thing i hear about how Saw is a "good" horror movie  ;D

I'm not really into horror movies so I wouldn't know.