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Title: Favourite moment
Post by: Alex L on April 05, 2006, 04:10:55 PM
This is my first post on this forum, so hello one and all.

Once Upon A Time In The West is one of my favourite films, with so many great moments.

As hard as it is, if you had to choose one moment as your favourite what would it be? And why?

If I was hard pushed, I would say go for the moment where Harmonica's flashback reveals that it's a younger Frank who's been walking towards the camera the whole time. It leads on to a great scene which reveals Harmonica's motivation for getting Frank.

I'll be interested to know what other people's favourite moments are.

Cheers.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: The Peacemaker on April 05, 2006, 04:22:46 PM
I love it when Frank and his men emerge from the sagebrush after they kill the family. The first time I saw this scene I had goosebumps running up and down my spine. Also, when Timmy is shot my heart dropped. Did you get that feeling too? Seeing a child murdered in film is EXTREMELY rare which is probably why it is so shocking.

P.S. - Welcome to the boards! Seems like yesterday it was my first day here.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: The Firecracker on April 05, 2006, 04:24:47 PM
This is my first post on this forum, so hello one and all.


welcome aboard :)

I must say your fav scene is the same as mine. The whole showdown accompanied by the flashback sequence is masterful.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: franksgrandson on April 05, 2006, 05:47:08 PM
for me its right at the end when Harmonica comes into the house all three of them Jill, harmonica and cheyenne have like a thing between them Jill wants one of them or both but she knows nothing will happen but the air is alive with tension its like she has fallen for these men who are her protectors but she knows they are going to vanish like a dream.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Sackett on April 05, 2006, 09:01:57 PM
Maybe I can think of it 2 ways. 
1.  Seeing Henry Fonda shoot down a family and then a kid while smiling, is  a SHOCKER.
2.  My favorite scene might have to be the end where Frank rides up to the ranch and Harmonica is whittling which leads them on into the flashback and gunfight.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Tim on April 05, 2006, 09:31:06 PM
  I'm going to say the opening sequence, if that counts for a moment.  I love the build-up with the natural sounds, and then the dialogue with Harmonica and Frank's three men is absolutely classic.

  Of course, like you said, it's hard to pick just one moment.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Alex L on April 06, 2006, 09:12:15 AM
Also, when Timmy is shot my heart dropped. Did you get that feeling too? Seeing a child murdered in film is EXTREMELY rare which is probably why it is so shocking.
It was rather a shock, yeah. I thought he'd be spared, to be honest.

It must've been even more of a shock to audiences at the time, as Fonda was probably second to only John Wayne as the iconic Western hero.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Beebs on April 06, 2006, 10:36:43 AM
I don't think it shows this in any version but the way you said it, Harmonica, it sounds like your version shows Timmy get shot. I know my version just shows the gun go off and then cut. Did they cut that out or was it never there.

Anyway, my favorite scene is same as Sackett, Starting with Fonda riding up with that music and ending at Frank's death.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: roberti on April 09, 2006, 11:30:08 AM
This is my first post on this forum, so hello one and all.

Once Upon A Time In The West is one of my favourite films, with so many great moments.

As hard as it is, if you had to choose one moment as your favourite what would it be? And why?

If I was hard pushed, I would say go for the moment where Harmonica's flashback reveals that it's a younger Frank who's been walking towards the camera the whole time. It leads on to a great scene which reveals Harmonica's motivation for getting Frank.

I'll be interested to know what other people's favourite moments are.

Cheers.


You'll find more answers in the link below:

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=1368.0


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Cusser on April 09, 2006, 10:24:56 PM
I have a bunch: final shootout/flashback, Frank riding up to face his destiny, Jill arriving at McBain's/funeral scene (whole scene practically without any words at all, just amazing), Frank's smile/"now that you've called me by name"


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Silenzio on July 17, 2006, 01:07:12 PM
Two moments definitely stand out in my mind:

1. When Frank puts the harmonica in Young Harmonica's mouth.

2. After we've seen an entire family been slaughtered, the five ominous looking men in dusters come out of the brush. The camera pans over, and the leader is a smirking Henry Fonda, elated at the opportunity to kill a kid.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/a/a7/Henryfonda.JPG/180px-Henryfonda.JPG)


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: dave jenkins on July 18, 2006, 09:49:35 AM
Actually, he's elated that he no longer has to wrestle with a difficult decision. Up to that point he couldn't decide whether to shoot the kid or not, but henchman #1 has made the matter easy. Also, Frank gets the added bonus of being able to blame his actions on another. Frank will have no trouble sleeping THAT night.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 18, 2006, 12:38:06 PM
Actually, he's elated that he no longer has to wrestle with a difficult decision. Up to that point he couldn't decide whether to shoot the kid or not, but henchman #1 has made the matter easy. Also, Frank gets the added bonus of being able to blame his actions on another. Frank will have no trouble sleeping THAT night.

Frank didn't care. He made up his mind about killing that kid even before the henchman mentioned his name.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Tuco the ugly on July 18, 2006, 12:47:36 PM
first of all welcome aboard !! :)

about my favorite scene:
"now that you've called me by name..."


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Silenzio on July 18, 2006, 02:07:06 PM
Frank didn't care. He made up his mind about killing that kid even before the henchman mentioned his name.

Yeah. He was going to do it whether or not his henchman gave him the extra excuse to.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 18, 2006, 02:12:23 PM
Yeah. He was going to do it whether or not his henchman gave him the extra excuse to.

The henchman's comment was just the icing on the cake. 

Oh and I forgot to mention, welcome to the boards Silenzio! Haven't been around as much as I use to.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Groggy on July 18, 2006, 04:43:31 PM
Answered this question a million times before, and I still can't decide:

- Opening scene
- The revelation that "Jesus Christ, it's Henry Fonda!" is a beautiful use of music and cinematography
- The shootout on the train with Cheyenne and Frank's goons
- The zoom-in on the rifle peeking through the theater poster - with the music it's a classic bit
- Morton's death scene
- "Keep your lovin' brother happy!"


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: CISCO on July 18, 2006, 06:41:22 PM
frank and mr. morton's conversation.

the way delli colli used a flashback wrapup that almost takes my mind off the duel until harmonica flattens frank


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: El Mal on July 19, 2006, 04:26:57 AM
I don't think it shows this in any version but the way you said it, Harmonica, it sounds like your version shows Timmy get shot. I know my version just shows the gun go off and then cut. Did they cut that out or was it never there.

Anyway, my favorite scene is same as Sackett, Starting with Fonda riding up with that music and ending at Frank's death.

The boy getting shot... Editing is the supreme tool for illusion in cinema tricking the audience into what they think they`ve heard or seen. Show close up of boy smiling, cut to colt revolver being fired/gun shot, cut to train stack belching smoke/screech of train whistle. Did anybody see the lad take a bullet, contort his face in agony, drop to the ground? I don`t think so. it`s just great editing. Maybe Frank actually shot a pheasant   8)





Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Groggy on July 19, 2006, 06:05:53 AM
frank and mr. morton's conversation.

Interesting pick, but that's a very good dialogue scene.  Nice way to establish Morton and his relationship with Frank, and some great lines therein too.

"People scare better when they're dyin'!"

and Morton's great "There are many kinds of weapons.  And the only one that can stop that is this!" followed by Frank's gang riding up.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 19, 2006, 12:07:24 PM


"People scare better when they're dyin'!"


I love it when Frank says that line, it's so chilling the way he says it. He has a hint of sadism and pride in his smile when that line is uttered.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Hubert on July 21, 2006, 05:14:45 AM
Greetings from a newbie! I live in a small coastal resort called Ostend, in Belgium, Europe.

Two of my favourite scenes involve Frank:

1)

Morton:
"How does it feel sitting behind that desk, Frank?"

Frank:
"It's almost like holding a gun . . . only much more powerful [broad grin]"

2)

Right before Frank shoots Wobbles he lights a cigar and looks at his victim. Those steel blue eyes are almost like two guns in their own right . . .

Obviously, the scene where Timmy is shot gives me goosebumps every time I see it. That crashing power chord!






Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 21, 2006, 07:31:20 AM
Greetings from a newbie! I live in a small coastal resort called Ostend, in Belgium, Europe.

Two of my favourite scenes involve Frank:

1)

Morton:
"How does it feel sitting behind that desk, Frank?"

Frank:
"It's almost like holding a gun . . . only much more powerful [broad grin]"

2)

Right before Frank shoots Wobbles he lights a cigar and looks at his victim. Those steel blue eyes are almost like two guns in their own right . . .

Obviously, the scene where Timmy is shot gives me goosebumps every time I see it. That crashing power chord!






Welcome to the boards.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Groggy on July 21, 2006, 07:40:27 AM
Quote
Right before Frank shoots Wobbles he lights a cigar and looks at his victim. Those steel blue eyes are almost like two guns in their own right . . .

I agree, I call that the "acid burn" look.  You DEFINITELY don't wanna mess with Frank!  :o


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on September 05, 2006, 07:28:13 PM
 Wow. How can you narrow it down to just one! This masterpiece has many classic scenes. If I was forced to pick just one, which I am now, It would defiently be the farewell scene between Harmonica, Jill, and Cheyenne. This is the most touching scenes ever filmed. In my opinion, it's the greatest farewell scene ever filmed! Just look at the acting without words in this scene, especially from Claudia Cardinale! FANTASTIC!


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Silenzio on September 24, 2006, 08:37:32 PM
It's interesting to read the thread where people first said "Welcome to the Board" to me.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: marmota-b on September 27, 2006, 08:38:01 AM
If I was hard pushed, I would say go for the moment where Harmonica's flashback reveals that it's a younger Frank who's been walking towards the camera the whole time. It leads on to a great scene which reveals Harmonica's motivation for getting Frank.

After the first viewing, I can say that this also could be my favourite one... though it's really hard to choose.
Other two I would point out (apart from those already mentioned) is Cheyenne under the carriage when Wobbles is shot, and the whole end, where Jill gives the workers water. She did what Cheyenne told her and her expression and all the workers coming to her - I really liked it.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Silenzio on September 27, 2006, 04:38:34 PM
After the first viewing, I can say that this also could be my favourite one... though it's really hard to choose.
Other two I would point out (apart from those already mentioned) is Cheyenne under the carriage when Wobbles is shot, and the whole end, where Jill gives the workers water. She did what Cheyenne told her and her expression and all the workers coming to her - I really liked it.

So you've finally seen it? And you thought?


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: marmota-b on September 28, 2006, 05:44:23 AM
So you've finally seen it? And you thought?

Yes, I have. Thanks to Dave Jenkins. Thank you, Dave, again... It's wonderful. ;) Really hard to choose a favourite moment.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Aguirre on October 04, 2006, 07:53:06 PM
"How can you trust a man who wears both a belt and suspenders? The man can't even trust his own pants." is my favorite.

The shootout at the train is a classic, and ofcourse the masterful final duel spliced with the flashback.

While the final shootout is the best part of the movie, i just love that pants line.



Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Spaghetti Bob on October 06, 2006, 01:31:56 AM
Yes, there are so many to choose from.

Perhaps my favorite is the scene where, after the final shooting of Frank,  Harmonica places the instrument in Frank's mouth, just before he expires. The look of final realization as to who Harmonica is, in Frank's eyes, is one of the scenes that gave me goosebumps.

Also, collectively, the beautiful, long camera pans, at the facial expressions of Jill (the mirror reflection scene at the McBain ranch, and the eye-to-eye exchanges between Jill and Harmonica, during the 'farewell' sequence), are works of cinematic art, to me. 

Enough to make any full-blooded male sprout wood, over the fantasy of an encounter with this silver screen beauty. ;)


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: KevinJCBJK on July 07, 2007, 03:34:04 PM
These are all great scenes you have all mentioned.

And I am proud to be the first to mention this scene.

As much I loved the movie, this scene really stuck with me. It's the scene on the train where Frank finally meets Harmonica for the first time (or so Frank believed)

Right up to that scene you see Frank as a evil man who shows no remorse killing an entire family, including a kid. But this scene shows that Frank is for the first time...scared.

Harmonica reveals that he killed five of Frank's men, proving to be a match for Frank, and you can see the look of Fear on his face

"So you're the one who makes appointments?"
"And you're the one who doesn't keepn them" and he mentions the names of men Frank has killed and taunted him, and Frank loses his temper and slaps Harmonica. It's a very powerful scene that shows that Frank is vunerable.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: moviesceleton on July 08, 2007, 02:54:41 AM
That is a powerful scene! Especially I like that Frank is scared. Other things I like are the closeups of Frank and Harmonica when Harmonica comes down from the roof of the train. "End of the line" - "Yeah."  That is the best yeah ever.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Jill on July 08, 2007, 05:45:37 AM
Frank's face when he gets the bullet... very good.

But the whole film is a favourite moment  ;D


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: dave jenkins on July 08, 2007, 09:35:14 AM
Wow, your definition of a moment is a lot longer than mine. ;D


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on July 14, 2007, 09:46:19 AM
Frank's face when he gets the bullet... very good.

But the whole film is a favourite moment  ;D

Good point Jill! The whole film is a Favorite moment. haha so many memorable scenes.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: KevinJCBJK on July 14, 2007, 12:02:53 PM
I loved Harmonica's flashback on why he wants to kill Frank. It was a well done scene, and I am amazed how they made Henry Fonda look 20 years younger. And the music played too, and the use of the camera, made it a very powerful scene.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: geoman-1 on July 14, 2007, 05:50:37 PM
I am amazed how they made Henry Fonda look 20 years younger
A little trick that Hollywood has used for many years involves tightening  the loose facial skin
with nearly invisible tape. Think of it as a temporary face lift, but instead of sutures they
use tape.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: lovelyrita on July 14, 2007, 09:53:06 PM
I have to agree with Jill, the whole film is a favourite moment, hard to choose one great one, at least for me..


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: ellisc on July 16, 2007, 11:52:41 AM
Favorite scene:

Jill getting off the train, wandering around, accompanied by the musical score.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Whalestoe on July 16, 2007, 05:00:38 PM
My favorite scene would have to be when Frank finally confronts Harmonica. The dialogue in the scene really seals the deal for me:

Frank: Morton once told me I could never be like him. Now I understand why. Wouldn't have bothered him, knowing you were around somewhere alive.
Harmonica: So, you found out you're not a businessman after all.
Frank: Just a man.
Harmonica: An ancient race. Other Mortons will be along, and they'll kill it off.
Frank: The future don't matter to us. Nothing matters now - not the land, not the money, not the woman. I came here to see you. 'Cause I know that now, you'll tell me what you're after.
Harmonica: ...Only at the point of dyin'.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: moviesceleton on July 16, 2007, 05:22:00 PM
Yes, Whalestoe, terrific moment. And welcome also!


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Whalestoe on July 16, 2007, 05:24:04 PM
Thank you! :)

I've been lurking around the boards for about a week or so now, contemplating whether or not to join. As you can tell, I came to my senses.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Tuco the ugly on July 16, 2007, 09:40:08 PM
My favorite scene would have to be when Frank finally confronts Harmonica. The dialogue in the scene really seals the deal for me:

Frank: Morton once told me I could never be like him. Now I understand why. Wouldn't have bothered him, knowing you were around somewhere alive.
Harmonica: So, you found out you're not a businessman after all.
Frank: Just a man.
Harmonica: An ancient race. Other Mortons will be along, and they'll kill it off.
Frank: The future don't matter to us. Nothing matters now - not the land, not the money, not the woman. I came here to see you. 'Cause I know that now, you'll tell me what you're after.
Harmonica: ...Only at the point of dyin'.
For a movie that has less than 20 pages of dialogue, this is definitely the best half page.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: KevinJCBJK on July 18, 2007, 02:51:41 PM
That is a great scene Whalestoe!


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on July 18, 2007, 05:07:27 PM
Thank you! :)

I've been lurking around the boards for about a week or so now, contemplating whether or not to join. As you can tell, I came to my senses.

You made the right choice Whalestoe! O0


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: KevinJCBJK on August 10, 2007, 01:52:29 PM
My grandma is watching it with me, though she keeps getting interupted by parents. She was suprised to see Henry Fonda kill people. Leone's still got it  O0

"Only three people have used it this morning!"


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Tucumcari Bound on August 10, 2007, 11:13:10 PM
My grandma is watching it with me, though she keeps getting interupted by parents. She was suprised to see Henry Fonda kill people. Leone's still got it  O0

"Only three people have used it this morning!"

Anyone who was a fan of Fonda for years before seeing him in OUATITW would be shocked. That was the point, and Leone was brilliant for casting him. I wish I could have seen your grandma's face while she watched it. hahaha


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: KevinJCBJK on August 11, 2007, 12:08:21 AM
Anyone who was a fan of Fonda for years before seeing him in OUATITW would be shocked. That was the point, and Leone was brilliant for casting him. I wish I could have seen your grandma's face while she watched it. hahaha

I know! she was like "Why is Henry Fonda killing those people? That's so unlike him!"

We didn't get to finish the film of course. But she said she has seen it before.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: marmota-b on August 11, 2007, 09:59:00 AM
"Only three people have used it this morning!"

Yeah, that's the water ::)... this line shows perfectly that it's in desert.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Silenzio on August 11, 2007, 10:01:15 AM
I love that line.


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: geoman-1 on August 11, 2007, 10:12:42 AM
"All together or one at a time?"


Title: Re: Favourite moment
Post by: Rudra on November 17, 2010, 11:11:47 PM
~~Harmonica to Cheyenne at Stander's Trading Post~~

"You know music and you can count, all the way up to two."


~~Conversations between Harmonica and Cheyenne at the courthouse auction~~

"Even Judas had to be content with $4970 less."

"There were no dollars in them days."

"But sons of bitches, yeah."