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Title: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Rblondie on May 21, 2003, 12:44:19 PM
Anyone see this film lately? Great score by Morricone. Clint shows he can do comedy if written properly. Good chemistry between him and Shirley MacLaine. Heck, the great Don Siegel directed it, what more do you need? I love the closing shot. Very funny.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Christopher on May 21, 2003, 12:51:45 PM
I haven't gotten the recent Region 1 release of Two Mules on DVD yet, but I wouldn' t mind having it. But I did see the movie a little while back when they showed it commercial free, and in widescreen on Turner Classic Movies. It looked great.

I love the battle scene at the end. Don Siegel did a fantastic job on the direction of those scenes.

I haven't seen many films with Shirley MacLaine in them, but I have always enjoyed her performance in this one.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on May 21, 2003, 05:04:21 PM
Ah Shirley, rat packtress, she did some great films, check out "Some Came Running", "The Apartment", "Sweet Charity".


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: aaronson on May 22, 2003, 07:20:29 AM


I haven't seen many films with Shirley MacLaine in them, but I have always enjoyed her performance in this one.

See "Trouble with Harry" ,it's not the best Hitch's movie but SHIRLEEEEEEEEEEEEY is ........a candy .
Really


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Christopher on May 22, 2003, 11:18:45 AM
The Trouble with Harry is one of the movies I have seen with her in it. And if I remember right, that was her first role.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: aaronson on May 26, 2003, 04:12:19 AM
The Trouble with Harry is one of the movies I have seen with her in it. And if I remember right, that was her first role.

Yes, Shirley and trees are the only interesting elements .. I never understood why Hitch wanted to adapt this boring story.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: KERMIT on May 27, 2003, 08:07:25 PM
ditto aaronson.   i think one must be in a certian "mood" to enjoy the nothingness that occurs......................
and i say this w/ all due respect.

 clapton has written some bad stuff
which gets over shadowed by his goood stuff.

paint your wagon ring a bell ?  


  i guess in order to do clint eastwood's job one must endure a  lows to reach the  highs this guy delivers . all the really good entertainers endure.
a ying-yang thang. if they are strong enough to get through it and move on the're worthy.

easy for me to say.  @ times my life feels like an unending paint your wagon movie.  then BOOM you get an idea.  it sucks.   but your gettin ideas again !

and w/ that i think i'll ride out on the two mules i rode in on.  preferably w/ shirleee on one of em'!!  ; :o
kermit


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: John Baldwin on November 01, 2004, 04:50:04 AM
Just watching this movie for the first time...It's not very very good...I don't like very much the story, the character of Sara...don't speak about her; Leone, when Eastwood proposed hil to direct the movie, gave the script. Leone read the 3 first page and said "no, I understand Sara is a prostitute...". And I agree with Leone, you understand she is not a church woman.
And the scenes with French army...Ho my god, what accent they have!!!!!! >:( >:(
What do you think of this movie??? Great, bad...???


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on November 01, 2004, 06:12:38 PM
It would have been better without Shirley McClain, it was supposed to be with Elizabeth Taylor which would have been another disaster.

I think either Brigitte Bardot, Ursula Andress, Brit Ekland, Capucine, Ann Margret, Claudia Cardinale or any of the sex kittens of the 60's would have been much better in the role and would have added some spice and a bit of sex. It could have been soooooo much better.

I liked the train derailing segment.

The story was so so, the Morricone score was definitely different, best part of the film, kind of jungley.

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And the scenes with French army...Ho my god, what accent they have!!!!!!
What do you expect from us gringos  ;D.

John , you know I'd like to see some well made French Foreign Legion adventure films, you'd think someone would up date this genre with a good exciting epic.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: noodles_leone on November 02, 2004, 12:49:09 AM
i'm afraid you won't see any great epic about french foreign legion... how can you do that with those uniforms? those hats? :)

but i think something can be done with the first empire... Ridley Scott's "the duelists"  (i'm not sure of the english title) was pretty good (but not epic).

You american are lucky: your cavalery, your cow-boys and indians are sooooooo cinematographic...


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on November 02, 2004, 05:28:00 AM
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i'm afraid you won't see any great epic about french foreign legion... how can you do that with those uniforms? those hats?


That was a bit tounge incheek on my part, think "MARKETING" I think right now there might be a big market to see a "politically uncorrect" legionaires mowing down the Arab hordes type movies.

*No offenece to any peaceful Muslims on the board here.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: John Baldwin on November 02, 2004, 06:30:04 AM
Yeah guys...Piano, piano...Lol. And you can believe me, the accent is... :-\ :-[ Ho, shit!!!


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Dlanor on September 08, 2005, 03:18:12 PM
What do you think about it?
Eastwood, Don Siegel and Morricone music (a strange theme). Good combination.

One point I'd mention, I wonder if the relationship Hogan (Eastwood)  - Sarah (Shirley Mac Laine) influenced Lucas for the relation ship Han Solo - Leia. And in fact Eastwood character has common points with Han solo, he is  cynistic, mysoginist, sarcastic, lonely,  mercenary but he has a good heart. I' bet Hogan character influenced Han Solo character and Sarah s charcater influenced Leia's character (strengh, retort).
 In fact the scenario has common points with SW too! A group of rebels against an empire, the leader girl, the mercenary, a desperate cause!
 


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Beebs on September 08, 2005, 05:02:18 PM
Great movie,
I can see the Han Solo thing but he's not cocky in Two Mules. Just tough


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Juan Miranda on September 08, 2005, 06:52:04 PM
I love this film. I saw it loads of times at the ABC Clydebank when I was young.

It was probabaly my first Eastwood westen (I had seen him in WHERE EAGLES DARE and KELLY'S HERO'S already), and definately my first Morricone score experience. It was so odd you couldn't miss it, with its "wee-bwooo" noises.

If nothing else, Clint surely wins the "most Mexicans slaughtered in a single movie" award for this 'un.

Sadly it is ALWAYS played cut on TV in the UK, which is very irritating, and utterly absurd, considering I could happily wander into my local cinema as a 12 year old and see it in all its glory back in the '70's.

The arrow removal scene is always buchered by the censors. ???


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on September 09, 2005, 01:24:58 AM
Just saw it again recently on AMC, and enjoyed it more than I ever have before. A really great Morricone score, and the closest performance by Eastwood post SL to the Man With 3 Names (he even smokes those little cigars). Best of all is probably the location work: the whole film was shot in Mexico and, crazy as it may seem, Mexico locations used for a Mexico setting works really really well. And of course, Don S knows a thing or two about directing action-adventure films, no?


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Dlanor on September 09, 2005, 05:24:43 AM
And thinking Eastwood hated smoking cigares in SL westerns, and there he had to do it again... He has the poncho too.
 A very close attempt for the Americans to imitate SW.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Beebs on September 09, 2005, 03:56:16 PM
Best of all is probably the location work: the whole film was shot in Mexico and, crazy as it may seem, Mexico locations used for a Mexico setting works really really well.

In more of my reading of Eli Wallach's book, when he was doin The Mag seven Mexican censors got mad because the Mexicans were shown as poor little helpless pitiful cowards. Sturges made sure they were wearing clean white clothes. But an assistant director (nicknamed El Indio) had to over see the filming in Mexico. He was in charge of getting Eli a sombraro. He got a custom 4 ft brim hat.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Beebs on January 30, 2006, 07:36:33 AM
On the back of the Two Mules for Sister Sara DVD case there is a poster that says "The Man with No Name returns to take on an entire army with two guns and a fistful of dynamite"

Just thought it was interesting.

(discusion follows...)


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Tim on January 30, 2006, 08:51:40 AM
  I guess just another way to capitalize on the success of the Dollars trilogy although you can tell that line might be a more recent addition/creation.  Fistful of Dynamite was released in 1971, while Two Mules for Sister Sara was released the year before in '70.

  And as for the guns comment, Hogan does use 2 guns, his rifle to blow the bridge with the help of Sister Sara and his ever-trusty pistol.

  Good movie and another great quirky Morricone score. 


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Sensei on January 30, 2006, 05:17:26 PM
And as for the guns comment, Hogan does use 2 guns, his rifle to blow the bridge with the help of Sister Sara and his ever-trusty pistol.

That might explain it. On the cover of my DVD (which I bought in sweden) "guns" is translated to "pistols". Obviously that would then be wrong. ;D


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: JamesK on July 25, 2006, 08:24:49 AM
I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but until just a couple of days ago, I'd never actually seen Two Mules for Sister Sara (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008CMT4/randomscribbl-20).  Sure, I knew all about it, including things that spoiled certain surprises for me, but I never sat down to watch the thing.  I was missing out.

A number of places describe the film as a comedy, but I don't think I'd go that far.  I'd classify it an action/comedy, with the contents tilted more heavily toward the action end of the spectrum.  All in all, I found the mixture quite satisfactory.

And it didn't hurt that Shirley MacLaine was a lot more appealing as an actress (and to the eyes) than she was to become later on.    :-*


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 25, 2006, 12:02:00 PM
I'm almost ashamed to admit it, but until just a couple of days ago, I'd never actually seen Two Mules for Sister Sara (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00008CMT4/randomscribbl-20).  Sure, I knew all about it, including things that spoiled certain surprises for me, but I never sat down to watch the thing.  I was missing out.




dont be ashamed. Thats pretty much the only Clint Eastwood western I have yet to see. I think most here can say the same.
Its rather elusive isnt it? Never at the store, never on television...


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: JamesK on July 25, 2006, 12:13:00 PM

dont be ashamed. Thats pretty much the only Clint Eastwood western I have yet to see. I think most here can say the same.

Somehow I think the most most-neglected Eastwood western is probably Paint Your Wagon... but I know what you mean.  ;)

What's the most surprising to me was how much I enjoyed the movie.  Sure, it's not a classic like many of Eastwood's forays into the genre, but it's still a lot of fun.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 25, 2006, 03:02:33 PM
Somehow I think the most most-neglected Eastwood western is probably Paint Your Wagon... but I know what you mean.  ;)




Oh yeah...forgot about that one. I guess many want to forget that one.

you would be surprised the amount of times they show "Paint your wagon" on television.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on July 25, 2006, 03:46:05 PM
Easily Don Segal's best Western and his best work with Eastwood (even better than DH, IMHO). Of course, it's the Morricone soundtrack that makes all the difference.......


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on July 25, 2006, 08:59:54 PM
This film and High Plains Drifter are the closest Eastwood gets to his MWNN persona ever again, that and Morricone of course is icing on the cake.

Too bad that Segal didn't pay as much attention to Leone in firearm accuracy, but the more I've been paying attention to the AW's I've watched layely the more I realise that most AW directors didn't do any better.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 25, 2006, 10:59:55 PM
Easily Don Segal's best Western and his best work with Eastwood


Better than "The Beguiled"?

though I havent seen "Two Mules..." it will be hard to top TB (in my book anyways).


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Banjo on July 26, 2006, 02:23:24 AM
A good movie but it still upsets me with what they did to Clint with those mushrooms etc :'(
He'd have been better of in the Castle Anthrax from Monty Python & The Holy Grail  ;)


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on July 26, 2006, 08:50:29 AM

Better than "The Beguiled"?

though I havent seen "Two Mules..." it will be hard to top TB (in my book anyways).
Huh, you're the first person I've ever heard of who likes that film. I find it impossible to sit through.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: titoli on July 26, 2006, 11:07:16 AM
As an anesthetic it has some value.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 26, 2006, 11:30:26 AM
Huh, you're the first person I've ever heard of who likes that film. I find it impossible to sit through.


why?
That film is probably on my top ten.

Clint is a manipulative ass-hole in a school of sexually deprived females. whats not to like?


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 26, 2006, 09:54:40 PM
Huh, you're the first person I've ever heard of who likes that film.


second. Banjo has already mentioned he likes it ;D


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on July 26, 2006, 09:57:08 PM
TB is ok but nothing special.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: noodles_leone on July 27, 2006, 01:48:10 AM

second. Banjo has already mentioned he likes it ;D

and i am the third one:) best Spiegel's work, by far... However, an argument about it would be a little off-topic... Let's create a TB topic, guys:)

Two Mules is quite good, but I only watched it once years ago...


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Banjo on July 27, 2006, 05:13:40 AM
Can i mention Mrs Banjo as the 4th?
Maybe its all the women power in evidence she admires ;D


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 27, 2006, 07:02:55 PM
Can i mention Mrs Banjo as the 4th?
Maybe its all the women power in evidence she admires ;D

I actually saw the woman as the villians in that film really.
Clint was just trying to get in their good  graces so he could keep them from alerting the confederates that he was there...

however...his methods show that their graces was not all he was trying to get into ;D


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 29, 2006, 01:06:55 PM

however...his methods show that their graces was not all he was trying to get into ;D

 :o          ;D


I only saw the last half of The Beguiled and it was freaky. I didn't see Clint being a jack*ss  in the beginning so I was wondering why the hell these women were being so evil!


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 29, 2006, 01:08:02 PM
Oh yes, and going back to the original topic, Two mules for Sister Sara was a cool movie. It wasn't great, same old stuff nothing new, but it was fun.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Banjo on July 30, 2006, 04:33:46 AM
  I was wondering why the hell these women were being so evil!
I've worked in an office mainly full of women and you wouldn't believe how bitchy and competative some of these girls can get-especially when trying to gain favour with a senior male colleague!
I guess in The Beguiled that its this jealous female competativeness over Clints charms taken to extremes rather than any real evil at work.The fact that its a god fearing prim & proper school for young ladies obviously smacks of hypocracy.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 30, 2006, 11:08:06 AM
I've worked in an office mainly full of women and you wouldn't believe how bitchy and competative some of these girls can get-especially when trying to gain favour with a senior male colleague!


Lucky you! :D


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 30, 2006, 11:33:19 AM
I've worked in an office mainly full of women and you wouldn't believe how bitchy and competative some of these girls can get-especially when trying to gain favour with a senior male colleague!
I guess in The Beguiled that its this jealous female competativeness over Clints charms taken to extremes rather than any real evil at work.The fact that its a god fearing prim & proper school for young ladies obviously smacks of hypocracy.

My mom is like that, real competitive in the office.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 05:51:58 AM
Maybe is my catholic upbringing, but McLaine dressed like a nun is extremely more attractive than as a whore. Of course she can't compete with her looks as they were 10 years before in Artists and Models or The Apartment, still I find her tremendously sexy.   
What I don't like is Eastwood's effort to sport off a southern pronunciation which just doesn't come off. Is it a wrong impression? It reminds me of the Mick Jagger attempts at playing cockney. Also, they must have muddled up things while shooting, as part of the soundtrack was recorded live other in studio. I wonder what the movie would have looked like without Morricone's score...


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on August 18, 2006, 06:08:25 AM
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I wonder what the movie would have looked like without Morricone's score...


I wonder about the original Boetticher script.

I think Shirley was a bit too old for the part (though she is sexy) it would have been nicer to see some cult siren, or other notorious fem in the role. 8)

In her whore outfit she comes off looking like a battleship rather than a sleek destroyer, (Stella Stevens in build at least is more in the line of I'm thinking).

I didn't notice Eastwood with a southern accent did anybody else besides titoli think so?


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Groggy on August 18, 2006, 07:00:06 AM
I haven't seen this either. . . Lord knows I've had plenty of chances to, it's just never really appealed to me.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 08:11:27 AM
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I didn't notice Eastwood with a southern accent did anybody else besides titoli think so?

Hey, man, on this I have no authority whatsoever. You tell me what accent he's striving for (I think he does strive, doesn't speak naturally).

Stella Stevens: I'm crazy about her looks, but I don't know, can't see her much in this role. What about Raquel Welch?


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Le Bon on August 18, 2006, 01:44:25 PM

I didn't notice Eastwood with a southern accent did anybody else besides titoli think so?

Isn't there a scene later in the film where he puts on a southern accent.  :-\


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on August 18, 2006, 03:35:19 PM
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Isn't there a scene later in the film where he puts on a southern accent.


You know come to think about it, when he's speaking to the French officer he effects an exaggerated accent, don't recall if its southern though.

Raquel Welch possibly, I was thinking someone who would have given it an "R" raiting  ;D, maybe Goldie Hawn, Jane Fonda, Julie Christie, Tanya Roberts, to name a few.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 03:53:33 PM
Goldie Hawn: would have let the movie slip too much on the comedic side. Can't see her much as the right foil for Eastwood, who is a rather wooden actor: not even Leone could have made a comedian out of him.

Jane Fonda: yes, but I think a nun should have more of latin traits than markedly anglo-saxon ones like her.   

Julie Christie: an english nun in Mexico?

Tanya Roberts: have to check on her, can't visualize her this very moment.

If Raquel Welch couldn't have given it a "R" rating, then I can't imagine who else.

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You know come to think about it, when he's speaking to the French officer he effects an exaggerated accent, don't recall if its southern though.


You tell me.



Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 04:59:07 PM
Tanya Roberts: her first movie was in 1975, CJ!


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 05:04:21 PM
And anyway she was 14 in 1969.   ::)


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on August 18, 2006, 05:40:52 PM
How about Shelley Winters as Sister Sarah?  ;D

Just trying to pull titoli's chain, y'all.......


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 06:30:06 PM
As one of the Two Mules, maybe. Even both, if you wish.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on August 18, 2006, 09:17:22 PM
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As one of the Two Mules, maybe. Even both, if you wish.


 ;D very funny.

Raquel didn't do nude scenes, and Tanya was too young you are correct. I think we have to have an uninhibited actress for Sara, no?

see if you can come up with someone from this list:

http://www.cultsirens.com/index.htm

or here:

http://www.swinginchicks.com/main.htm





Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: titoli on August 18, 2006, 10:50:07 PM
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Raquel didn't do nude scenes,


Neither did McLaine :'(


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Tim on August 19, 2006, 11:32:47 AM
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Raquel didn't do nude scenes

  But didn't it always seem that she was well on her way to nudity in most of her westerns?   ;D  The ones that come to mind; Bandolero, 100 Rifles, Hannie Caulder especially.  Too bad. :(


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 19, 2006, 11:36:52 AM
  But didn't it always seem that she was well on her way to nudity in most of her westerns?   ;D  The ones that come to mind; Bandolero, 100 Rifles, Hannie Caulder especially.  Too bad. :(

I liked it in Hannie Caulder when she's in the bath and she stands up only to reveal she's wearing pants ( a huge tease to the guys in the audience ).

I was hoping there wouldn't be pants.  ;D


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Tim on August 19, 2006, 11:46:31 AM
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I was hoping there wouldn't be pants.

  Really?  I can't imagine why.  I'll have to think about that one.   ;D


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: moviesceleton on June 12, 2007, 08:33:22 AM
This is a great Western. Eastwood is cool as hell. There are plenty of good one-liners. Morricone's score is excellent, I could say equal to the first two of the Dollars-trilogy. The love story is really nice one, unlike in most westerns, where they often ruin the whole movie. Highly recommended!

PS: Our fascinating tour through the stupidest title translations ever continues: This movie is known in Finland as "Kourallinen dynamiittia" which is in English "A Fistful Of Dynamite". O0 


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Man with no dame on June 12, 2007, 08:44:17 AM
Two Mules was a fair to middling comedy-drama western. Considering the talent both in front and behind the lens, this should have been much better than it was. Personally, I don't find attempted rape all that funny, even if MacLaine was portraying a prostitute!


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on June 12, 2007, 09:02:05 AM
PS: Our fascinating tour through the stupidest title translations ever continues: This movie is known in Finland as "Kourallinen dynamiittia" which is in English "A Fistful Of Dynamite". O0 
:o :o :o


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: moviesceleton on June 12, 2007, 11:10:50 AM
I guess they tried to market this movie as a sequel to AFOD, or something...


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: marmota-b on June 12, 2007, 11:37:57 AM
Then how do you call DYS in Finnish? :o


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: moviesceleton on June 12, 2007, 12:05:50 PM
Then how do you call DYS in Finnish? :o
It's either "Kourallinen dynamiittia" ("A Fistful Of Dynamite") or "Maahan, senkin hölmö!" ("Duck, You Sucker!"); direct translations. But I think it says A Fistful Of Dynamite (in English) on my DVD cover.

We have a saying here: "Rakkaalla lapsella on monta nimeä" which means: "beloved child has many names". (That's my own translation, so blame me if you don't understand.) I think that saying fits Leone's films extremely well.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: marmota-b on June 12, 2007, 01:26:19 PM
We have a saying here: "Rakkaalla lapsella on monta nimeä" which means: "beloved child has many names". (That's my own translation, so blame me if you don't understand.) I think that saying fits Leone's films extremely well.

That really fits well. :D


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on June 27, 2008, 11:16:19 PM
I've seen this movie countless times, and the more I see it the more I like it. And even if it was shot in Mexico and it was directed by an American, it has virtually all the ingredientes of a good spaghetti western.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Banjo on June 28, 2008, 12:53:08 PM
Saw this last week for the first time in widescreen on dvd as part of a 9dvd Eastwood box set.

Its very good with Eastwoods character being identical to the MWND and Morricone of course.The humour (and Shirley Maclaine) is  great but in terms of  excitement and coolness  it pales in comparison with the best Italian westerns.As Cigar Joe might say,it lacks the "wow" factor.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on June 28, 2008, 07:21:34 PM
Its very good with Eastwoods character being identical to the MWND and Morricone of course.The humour (and Shirley Maclaine) is  great but in terms of  excitement and coolness  it pales in comparison with the best Italian westerns.As Cigar Joe might say,it lacks the "wow" factor.
A fair assessment.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: titoli on June 29, 2008, 09:02:02 PM
Saw this last week for the first time in widescreen on dvd as part of a 9dvd Eastwood box set.

Its very good with Eastwoods character being identical to the MWND and Morricone of course.The humour (and Shirley Maclaine) is  great but in terms of  excitement and coolness  it pales in comparison with the best Italian westerns.As Cigar Joe might say,it lacks the "wow" factor.

Could that "wow" factor be that Eastwood is MWNN when dealing with men but still Rowdy Yates when dealing with McLaine? The fact is that MWNN is duped by the girl and this could have never happened in a Leone movie. That's why I can't consider Eastwood here as MWNN. There was that original story, yes, to take into account, but I think the screenplayers should have retouched it along GBU lines, with McLaine acting as Tuco: apparently fooling Eastwood but being fooled in the end, with Eastwood having known all along she was a humbug. Also, the fact that Eastwood is implied with a social commotion doesn't fit with the individualistic character of MWNN, absolutely out of context in a Zapata western.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on November 01, 2008, 07:22:39 PM
Watched this again tonight, I'm still wondering what Boetticher's original script was.

Its entertaining but you'd think that after GBU and the prominent use of Colt Navy's and Remington New Model Army's and Henry repeating rifles they would have taken better care to have weaponry right, rather than having Clint use a SAA Peacemaker. Also there were no railroads of any consequence in Mexico in 1867 and none in the North around Chihuahua where the action takes place. It would have been better to move this to the time of the MEX REV and make it a Zapata Western the story would have worked equally as well, and have a more sex-kittenish actress prone to dis-robeing (like I've mentioned previously) prehaps Angie Dickenson or Marianna Hill from El Condor comes to mind..


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: T.H. on November 02, 2008, 11:40:06 AM
Could that "wow" factor be that Eastwood is MWNN when dealing with men but still Rowdy Yates when dealing with McLaine? The fact is that MWNN is duped by the girl and this could have never happened in a Leone movie. That's why I can't consider Eastwood here as MWNN. There was that original story, yes, to take into account, but I think the screenplayers should have retouched it along GBU lines, with McLaine acting as Tuco: apparently fooling Eastwood but being fooled in the end, with Eastwood having known all along she was a humbug. Also, the fact that Eastwood is implied with a social commotion doesn't fit with the individualistic character of MWNN, absolutely out of context in a Zapata western.

Great point. Your assessment is spot on.

I would have also liked to BB's original intentions for this film.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: marmota-b on November 07, 2008, 09:06:42 AM
Could that "wow" factor be that Eastwood is MWNN when dealing with men but still Rowdy Yates when dealing with McLaine? The fact is that MWNN is duped by the girl and this could have never happened in a Leone movie. That's why I can't consider Eastwood here as MWNN. There was that original story, yes, to take into account, but I think the screenplayers should have retouched it along GBU lines, with McLaine acting as Tuco: apparently fooling Eastwood but being fooled in the end, with Eastwood having known all along she was a humbug. Also, the fact that Eastwood is implied with a social commotion doesn't fit with the individualistic character of MWNN, absolutely out of context in a Zapata western.

A really good point; it felt inconsistent and now I think I know why.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Groggy on May 11, 2009, 12:17:22 PM
Just watched this movie today, here are my thoughts:

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So after posting my review of Vera Cruz earlier today, here's my commentary on Don Siegel's Two Mules For Sister Sara (1970), also set during the French occupation of Mexico, but despite the best efforts of super-cool Clint Eastwood and a surprisingly attractive Shirley Maclaine, it's not nearly as good as the former.

Hogan (Clint Eastwood) is an American gun-for-hire who rescues the attractive Sister Sara (Shirley Maclaine) from being raped by a gang of thugs in the middle of the Mexican desert. After some snappy dialogue and some close brushes with French troops and rattlesnakes, the two fall in together, finding out that each is working for the Juarista - Hogan for money, Sara for devotion to a righteous cause. They team up to help Juarista Colonel Beltran (Manuel Fabregas) destroy the French garrison in Chihuahua, where Sara worked - only Hogan finds out that Sara isn't actually a nun at all (as if that needed explaining).

Like a great many of Clint Eastwood's immediate post-Sergio Leone films (Hang 'Em High, High Plains Drifter), Sister Sara does its best to ape Leone's films in style and appearance, with Clint playing yet another Man With No Name clone. Reportedly co-writer Budd Boetticher (the director of such cult "adult Westerns" as The Tall T and Buchannan Rides Alone) was rather pissed off that the producers turned his original story into a "typical Clint Eastwood thing", and there's no small degree of truth to that. While Don Sigel made some great films through his career, several with Eastwood (Dirty Harry, Coogan's Bluff), Sister Sara is far from his finest hour, yet another early '70s Leone-lite Western that doesn't come close to the style and artistry of the films it tries to emulate.

The film starts out strongly with an iconic Eastwood intro; with a sleazy thug holding the half-naked Maclaine at gun-point, Clint coolly tosses a dynamite stick their way. The early scenes of Hogan and Sara together are wonderful, aided in no small part by the witty screenplay; the scene where Sara tries to remove an arrow lodged in the drunk Hogan's shoulder is a particular high-point. But about half-way through, as the film's main plot and side characters are introduced, the movie slows to a dead crawl and never really picks up again. The supporting cast is straight from central casting: the Juaristas are virtuous and heroic, the French decadent fascist slobs, and there are some poor helpless peasants in between, crying and staring at the atrocities from the edge of the frame. All of this has been done before and elsewhere, and better; when Hogan's only interest is mercenary, it's hard to care about the shallow ciphers he's helping, however noble and heroic they may be. Before long, we just wish that the interminable scenes of French atrocity and Juarista planning were replaced with more scenes of our two leads duking it out.

Sigel's direction, despite some nice photography by Gabriel Figueroa, is generally rather flat and un-inspired. Sigel can't really pick up the pace in the middle sections, and even the final battle is rather underwhelming given all the build-up (having, as in Vera Cruz, all the usual gimmicks, with repeating rifles, dynamite and Gatling guns in prominent use). While the outdoor scenes are beautiful and well-shot, the sets in the later segments are quite obviously sets. The strongest point of the film is undoubtedly the witty, well-written script by Boetticher and Albert Maltz. Ennio Morricone contributes a rather blah score that sounds like he just tweaked a few of his Dollars trilogy themes and called it a day.

Clint Eastwood is at his bad-ass best, playing the gruff, quick-shooting stranger, this time with a sharp tongue and a healthy sexual appetite (though not nearly as crude as the rapist "Stranger" from Clint's next Western, High Plains Drifter). Shirley Maclaine, whom I usually find rather mousy however charming she can be (The Children's Hour, The Apartment), is unusually attractive as the title character, and has a lot of fun as the whore in nun's clothing, whose occasional drinks and lapses into profanity threaten to reveal her true identity. The two leads have great chemistry and work wonderfully together. The rest of the cast is non-descript, playing as mentioned above rather broadly drawn caricatures; whenever the camera isn't on our two protagonists it drags, and that's much of the second half.

Two Mules For Sister Sara isn't a bad film by any means - if nothing else, it's worth watching for Clint and Shirley, who have a lot of fun with the slight material. But for the most part, I would only recommend it for non-discerning Clint Eastwood and Western fans.

Rating: 6/10 - Use Your Own Discretion


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Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: T.H. on May 11, 2009, 01:26:30 PM
Siegel, much like Scrosese, belongs in the street or the contemporary urban setting. if you look at his finer works (or what I perceive to be his best): THE BIG STEAL, INVASION OF THE BODY SNATCHERS, THE LINEUP, DIRTY HARRY, CHARLEY VARRICK and THE KILLERS (1964) - his "gritty" style just doesn't translate to period pieces, although there could be an exception I'm forgetting.

Of course, the script isn't perfect either but that's beside the point.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on May 11, 2009, 02:48:00 PM
Uh, Grogs, where in your review do you mention . . . the authentic Mexican locations? You may not believe this, but a Western filmed in Mexico has a more interesting look than those innumerable ones shot at Spahn Ranch. And the Morricone score is better than you make out. The location shooting and the music alone lift this film above most other American Westerns of the period.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: T.H. on May 11, 2009, 04:05:15 PM
Uh, Grogs, where in your review do you mention . . . the authentic Mexican locations? You may not believe this, but a Western filmed in Mexico has a more interesting look than those innumerable ones shot at Spahn Ranch. And the Morricone score is better than you make out. The location shooting and the music alone lift this film above most other American Westerns of the period.

I really didn't think the movie was that visually impressive. the locations were sort of bland, certainly could have been better.

the score, while soid, is below average for morricone standards.

I guess I place my allegiances with team groggy on this one.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Groggy on May 11, 2009, 04:48:51 PM
Uh, Grogs, where in your review do you mention . . . the authentic Mexican locations? You may not believe this, but a Western filmed in Mexico has a more interesting look than those innumerable ones shot at Spahn Ranch. And the Morricone score is better than you make out. The location shooting and the music alone lift this film above most other American Westerns of the period.

I do mention the photography at one point, but I don't see what your point is. Pretty much all of Peckinpah's post-Ride the High Country Westerns were shot in Mexico, as were The Magnificent Seven and Vera Cruz and numerous others, many of rather drekky quality. A film is not significantly improved by simple virtue of its locations, anyway. It's how they're used.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on May 11, 2009, 05:47:04 PM
A film is not significantly improved by simple virtue of its locations, anyway. It's how they're used.
Surely, it's a combination of the two?


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Groggy on May 12, 2009, 06:24:45 AM
Yeah, good thing Sergio didn't film all his Westerns in Spain or something - then they would have been shit. I'm really happy he used only authentic Mexican locations. :D


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on May 12, 2009, 08:17:27 AM
Huh? The point is, SL filmed on locations that didn't look like the USUAL places (at least to American eyes). I get really tired of seeing Westerns that are supposed to be in different parts of the country but are all on Spahn Ranch (or wherever). I crack myself up every time (which isn't often)I see a MASH episode (filmed at the Fox Ranch) and imagine a couple of costumed extras wandering in from a Planet of the Apes movie. It's the novelty value of the locations I'm talking about. Mexico is great to film in because it doesn't look like those usual locations in American Westerns.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on May 12, 2009, 11:21:51 AM
I was never crazy about TMFSS (sounds like Typhus), but it has its moments.

The opening sequence is exquisite; I don't know if anyone ever mentioned how many animals Siegel used in it?

There's the horse (the real one, not Clint), the tarantula, the snake, the cougar (the real one, not Shirley MacLaine)...

Anything else? Birds of some kind probably, maybe vultures, can't recall...


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on May 12, 2009, 11:27:08 AM
My mistake, no birds, it's a fish and two hares: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1XKZt5Nc5k


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on February 04, 2011, 07:23:47 AM
This is the sort of movie that if it's playing on tv, you can keep the channel on and watch it.

I'd give it a 5.5/10

Morricone's main theme is funny


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 11, 2011, 01:18:12 AM
After Maclaine pulls out the arrow from Clint's shoulder the movie becomes a snoozer.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: cigar joe on March 11, 2011, 04:15:06 AM
It would be nice to see Boetticher's original screenplay of this.


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: Dust Devil on March 11, 2011, 12:18:59 PM
It would be nice to see Boetticher's original screenplay of this.

I almost wrote Randy Scott was dead already when he was doing it... :-X


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on April 13, 2013, 04:01:07 PM
The UK blu is apparently region free : http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00BR1EZ48/


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: drinkanddestroy on April 13, 2013, 07:20:15 PM
Recent article in ESPN Magazine on Michael Jordan turning 50 years old. Says he is a huge fan of Westerns, and his 3 faves are The Outlaw Josey Wales, Two Mules for Sister Sara, and Unforgiven


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: dave jenkins on May 10, 2013, 01:51:35 PM
Blu ray in da haus!


Title: Re: Two Mules for Sister Sara (1970)
Post by: emmo26 on October 20, 2015, 07:11:51 PM
Maybe Sondra Locke for the part of Sister Sara....


Anyway I thought that Eastwood was miscast, because his drunk act wasn't really all that convincing.