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Title: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on April 29, 2006, 06:25:04 PM
I Lunghi Giorni Della Vendetta (1966)
Long Days Of Vengeance
                                                        (http://www.cinemastrikesback.com/news/daily/longdaysvengeance1tb.jpg)
Directed by:
Florestano Vancini   (as Stan Vance)
 
Written by:
Augusto Caminito   
Fernando Di Leo   
Mahnahén Velasco   

Cast
Giuliano Gemma ....  Ted Barnett
Francisco Rabal ....  Sheriff Douglas
Gabriella Giorgelli ....  Dulcie
Conrado San Martín ....  Mr. Cobb
Franco Cobianchi ....  General Porfirio
Nieves Navarro ....  Dolly
Manuel Muñiz ....  Pajarito

  Original Music by
Armando Trovajoli   
 
Cinematography by
Francisco Marín   

The memorable main theme of composer Armando Trovaioli’s sole Western score, a slow and stately trumpet soaring over acoustic guitar and rolling percussion,  kicks off 1966’s Long Days Of Vengeance.

As 2 prisoners carry out a daring escape from a harsh, brutal military prison....we get our first look at Ted Barnett......, who, as we discover later,  is serving his 3rd year of a sentence of 30 at hard labor...framed for the murder of an Army Colonel...as part of an elaborate plan involving & including the murder of his father....slave labor..gun running.. & the ownership & control of a railroad.

The story quotes quite clearly from it's inspiration .... "The Count of Monte Cristo". Gemma, as Barnett..looking very much like the imprisoned Edmond Dantes....plots revenge against those who betrayed him.
After making his escape, ...and a not your typical day at the barber shop...he manages to find some helpers for his plan to exact revenge...from a traveling medicine show..who are VERY aware of the $10,000 bounty now on his head.

The only Western directed by Florestano Vancini ........he makes use of a good plot...with definite  noirish elements-- fall guy out for revenge..  the shady former lover , here  played by  Nieves Navarro , as the femme fatale, who may have access to evidence implicating the conspirators............greed,  redemption and payback.
It's a good story...one could see it used in an 40's B&W potboiler...as well as a lean, mean 50s American Western..but here it gets the Spaghetti treatment. ...there's even  a bit of ninja fare thrown in..to good effect, I might add..as it plays into the final showdown..from which some will walk away unbowed, but none will walk away unbloodied.

Of course no Gemma film would be complete without the former stuntman's trademark athleticism.....he shows off his gymnast roots...but this is a slightly darker Gemma...the smile & the humor are there.....but also the grit of an avenger as one by one the conspirators are confronted......as evidenced  by the lengths to which he'll go as he attempts to set the sides up for a fall...and by what  he sets himself up for to carry out his plan.

A good supporting cast....which, untypically for most Italian Westerns, features 2 strong female supporting characters...the fetching Navarro....and a nice turn by Gabriella Giorgelli as the aptly named, sweet but feisty Dulcie...who proves equally adept w/ a guitar or rifle.

The catchy & varied score contains a variety of themes & influences...ranging from Morricone to Toots Thielman's harmonica soundtracks. The stunning main theme --> which can be heard here <-- (http://media.putfile.com/I-Lunghi-Giorni-Della-Vendetta)  appeared in Tarantino’s "Kill Bill", during the  “Origin of O-Ren Ishii” anime sequence.

An interesting story..well told.. badly dubbed... nicely filmed....a nice fit somewhere in the middle of anyone's SW collection.

Recommended.





 


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 29, 2006, 08:05:33 PM
*spoiler*

Is the sheriff's badge flinging impressive?


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on April 30, 2006, 03:41:25 AM
This movie sounds familiar to another  i've read about-does it have another title?


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 30, 2006, 03:44:27 AM
This movie sounds familiar to another  i've read about-does it have another title?


It sounds Familiar because its like any other Giuliano Gemma spag. He gets out of prison and goes out revenging against the blokes who framed him.



Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on April 30, 2006, 03:52:18 AM
Its not Man From Nowhere is it?


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 30, 2006, 03:59:00 AM
Its not Man From Nowhere is it?

No, that is more like "Pistol for Ringo" I hear.


I think what you are thinking about is "California".


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on April 30, 2006, 04:19:26 AM
I'll check it out in Hughes book later-i'm sure its in one of the Ringo chapters.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 30, 2006, 04:25:45 AM
I'll check it out in Hughes book later-i'm sure its in one of the Ringo chapters.


Also I believe "Wanted" has a similar "prison escaping and then going out for revenge" type plot going for it.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on April 30, 2006, 04:27:33 AM

Also I believe "Wanted" has a similar "prison escaping and then going out for revenge" type plot going for it.
Theres a few Gemma films(wasn't a fan before) that i'm looking to get hold off later this year!


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 30, 2006, 04:32:26 AM
(wasn't a fan before)

what changed your mind? "The pistol for ringo" copy ;D

yeah that is one of my favorites too.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on April 30, 2006, 05:34:34 AM
That and the new Day Of Anger version.I like Price of Power too.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on April 30, 2006, 07:32:47 AM
This movie sounds familiar to another  i've read about-does it have another title?

Are you thinking specifically of another Gemma movie...banjo..or just another SW?
Oh..also--> "Man From Nowhere" is another name for "Arizona Colt"......Gemma does escape from prison..but it's not a "revenge" schtick.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on April 30, 2006, 07:39:34 AM
Not really-theres so many sws that Gemma's in that it gets a bit confusing and quite often they have different titles.I've just sussed that Man From Nowhere is the other title for Arizona Colt.
Isn't there 3 from Gergio Ferrio-Wanted,Fort Yuma Gold and One Silver Dollar?
Theres a whole pile of Gemma Ringo derivatives mentioned in Hughes latest book that i'll have to jot down some sort of wanted list!


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on April 30, 2006, 04:21:41 PM
You might have been reading about this one under another name...banjo......there are at least 5 names for this movie...I think there are like...3 in English alone..including just "Days of Vengeance".


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on April 30, 2006, 05:01:31 PM
so BA how impressive was the scene I mentioned earlier?


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on May 01, 2006, 05:49:06 AM
You might have been reading about this one under another name...banjo......there are at least 5 names for this movie...I think there are like...3 in English alone..including just "Days of Vengeance".
Sorry i've just checked and Days of Vengeance is the title Hughes uses-this movie sounds very interesting :)


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Arizona Colt on May 02, 2006, 01:08:40 AM
Hey Banjo, Gemma is in prison from the outset of ARIZONA COLT aka MAN FROM NOWHERE and takes up a job for sheriff in WANTED and ONE SILVER DOLLAR. These two have similar storylines but ONE SILVER DOLLAR is the better of the two and a fine action film to boot. Have you seen BEN & CHARLIE? Gemma plays a Trinity type role here and I'm waiting on ALIVE OR PREFERABLY DEAD to arrive as I think this is a TRINITY knockoff also.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on May 02, 2006, 05:01:13 AM
I've seen none of those movies Arizona Colt-thanks for the suggestions.
In his pocket guide Howard Hughes suggests that Fort Yuma Gold is the best of the Ferrino(sorry about speling) trilogy and has an atmosphere similar to GBU!


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 02, 2006, 11:08:02 AM
Have you seen BEN & CHARLIE?

Want too. But dont have the cash to spend.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Arizona Colt on May 02, 2006, 11:14:42 PM
If you enjoyed the TRINITY films you may like this too only it turns quite serious at the end when Ben and Charlie have to duel with the three comic book style villains they had sided with earlier in the picture.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 27, 2006, 11:40:15 PM
Just saw this. Very dissappointed. It had a lot of potential but it fails. The only thing worth watching is the climax, a suspenseful hair cut sequence(which we have seen many times in this genre) and a sheriff that uses his badge as a weapon(you will see what I mean). The rest of the film is rather hum drum and boring.  Not total crap but not "good" either. This is something I wouldnt revisit again.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on May 28, 2006, 07:51:19 AM
Just saw this. Very dissappointed. It had a lot of potential but it fails. The only thing worth watching is the climax, a suspenseful hair cut sequence(which we have seen many times in this genre) and a sheriff that uses his badge as a weapon(you will see what I mean). The rest of the film is rather hum drum and boring.  Not total crap but not "good" either. This is something I wouldnt revisit again.
Thats right try and spoil it for me while i'm waiting for it in the post. ;D
Hopefully it'll be another CWC scenario with this sw where we don't agree with anything! ;)


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on May 28, 2006, 12:39:44 PM

Hopefully it'll be another CWC scenario with this sw where we don't agree with anything! ;)

I doubt it will be. Its just below mediocre.
a shame.
Gemma's films are always wonderful. This is by far his worst sw.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on May 28, 2006, 12:59:29 PM
Howard Hughes seemed quite non-commital in a reference to this film during a chapter about Tessaris Ringo films-he mentioned Gemma being unrecognisable with his long hair and beard but saw it as him stretching his Ringo persona.
I'll have to see it to make my own mind up! ::)


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on June 06, 2006, 05:47:11 PM
I Lunghi Giorni Della Vendetta (1966)
Long Days Of Vengeance
                                                        (http://www.cinemastrikesback.com/news/daily/longdaysvengeance1tb.jpg)
Directed by:
Florestano Vancini   (as Stan Vance)
 
Written by:
Augusto Caminito   
Fernando Di Leo   
Mahnahén Velasco   

Cast
Giuliano Gemma ....  Ted Barnett
Francisco Rabal ....  Sheriff Douglas
Gabriella Giorgelli ....  Dulcie
Conrado San Martín ....  Mr. Cobb
Franco Cobianchi ....  General Porfirio
Nieves Navarro ....  Dolly
Manuel Muñiz ....  Pajarito

  Original Music by
Armando Trovajoli   
 
Cinematography by
Francisco Marín   

The memorable main theme of composer Armando Trovaioli’s sole Western score, a slow and stately trumpet soaring over acoustic guitar and rolling percussion,  kicks off 1966’s Long Days Of Vengeance.

As 2 prisoners carry out a daring escape from a harsh, brutal military prison....we get our first look at Ted Barnett......, who, as we discover later,  is serving his 3rd year of a sentence of 30 at hard labor...framed for the murder of an Army Colonel...as part of an elaborate plan involving & including the murder of his father....slave labor..gun running.. & the ownership & control of a railroad.

The story quotes quite clearly from it's inspiration .... "The Count of Monte Cristo". Gemma, as Barnett..looking very much like the imprisoned Edmond Dantes....plots revenge against those who betrayed him.
After making his escape, ...and a not your typical day at the barber shop...he manages to find some helpers for his plan to exact revenge...from a traveling medicine show..who are VERY aware of the $10,000 bounty now on his head.

The only Western directed by Florestano Vancini ........he makes use of a good plot...with definite  noirish elements-- fall guy out for revenge..  the shady former lover , here  played by  Nieves Navarro , as the femme fatale, who may have access to evidence implicating the conspirators............greed,  redemption and payback.
It's a good story...one could see it used in an 40's B&W potboiler...as well as a lean, mean 50s American Western..but here it gets the Spaghetti treatment. ...there's even  a bit of ninja fare thrown in..to good effect, I might add..as it plays into the final showdown..from which some will walk away unbowed, but none will walk away unbloodied.

Of course no Gemma film would be complete without the former stuntman's trademark athleticism.....he shows off his gymnast roots...but this is a slightly darker Gemma...the smile & the humor are there.....but also the grit of an avenger as one by one the conspirators are confronted......as evidenced  by the lengths to which he'll go as he attempts to set the sides up for a fall...and by what  he sets himself up for to carry out his plan.

A good supporting cast....which, untypically for most Italian Westerns, features 2 strong female supporting characters...the fetching Navarro....and a nice turn by Gabriella Giorgelli as the aptly named, sweet but feisty Dulcie...who proves equally adept w/ a guitar or rifle.

The catchy & varied score contains a variety of themes & influences...ranging from Morricone to Toots Thielman's harmonica soundtracks. The stunning main theme --> which can be heard here <-- (http://media.putfile.com/I-Lunghi-Giorni-Della-Vendetta)  appeared in Tarantino’s "Kill Bill", during the  “Origin of O-Ren Ishii” anime sequence.

An interesting story..well told.. badly dubbed... nicely filmed....a nice fit somewhere in the middle of anyone's SW collection.

Recommended.
I watched it today and i agree this is a real gem-though not one of the best  (i'd give it 7 out of 10) and the music is superb-confusingly Morricone is given a co-credit on imdb.com :o The presense of both Nieves Navarro and the guy who played Morning Glory-both in Tessaris Return Of Ringo together with the fact that Gemma character Ted Barnett "returns" from exile initially unrecognisable reminds me very much of that film-and like Ringo he kinda worms away in the background while reintroducing himself to his former acquaintances.
BTW very accurate and well written review Boardwalk Angel ;)


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on June 06, 2006, 06:45:43 PM
I watched it today and i agree this is a real gem-not one of the best  (i'd give it 7 out of 10) and the music is superb-

A shame I cannot call this a gem. The beginning is good with Gemma in prison and his eventual escape but after he gets his hair cut everything sorta  falls apart for me. It becomes really slow and tedious. Yes there are cool things like the sheriff's badge, Gemma's use of a piece of string and Nieves Navarro in the buff(no frontal nudity though  :'( ). The action scenes are stale...take note of the first action sequence where Gemma lazily picks off four guys from a mountain top. Something that could be done in 15 seconds takes almost several minutes. The villains never try to fire back or run away. The climax is only note worthy for...

SPOILER

...the final confrontation between Gemma and the baddie, as the antagonist shoots Gemma's legs several times and finally Gemma flings the sheriff's badge at his throat.

SPOILER END

This(to me) was a dull sw that tries too hard to be special.

The score is note worthy though.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on June 06, 2006, 07:42:44 PM
I found this to be better than "Return Of Ringo", for example...which I enjoyed..but whose plot was a little stupid...as well as less involved and inferior to "Long Days.....".
In my humble opinion...a better story...better plotted...& not reliant on the "Every 10 minutes..need some action" trap that a lot of SW fall into.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Arizona Colt on June 11, 2006, 09:49:43 PM
I have yet to see a Gemma film I'm disappointed with. I think the point of the opening where the 4 men are shot was to leave the audience a bit puzzled as to what was actually transpiring with the camera slowly panning over the mountain top as the men rode in several directions not knowing where the bullets were coming from. I take back my first statement as Gemma is also in HERCULES & THE SONS OF THE SUN which I didn't care for.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: titoli on December 02, 2006, 04:38:28 PM
I have to agree with FC: all the more so as the italian version I saw clocks at 1h57'. I saw it in three sessions and first 2 I got asleep. Sure, I was back on my sleep but the movie did nothing (nothing) to wake me up after a promising start. The action scenes are lost in a sea of blabbing and are nothing special. Only touch of originality is the tin star trick which ignited something in my memory: maybe I saw this movie in a theatre. I also liked the wardrobe trick. But then is a mystery why Gemma has to don that Rett Butler suit, how can he escape death from the mexicans, be so idiot as to consign himself to the law and risk death and prefer ugly Georgelli to sexy Navarro. (BTW, FC, if you want to see more of Navarro check Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals uncut release).


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on December 03, 2006, 12:05:07 AM
(BTW, FC, if you want to see more of Navarro check Emanuelle and the Last Cannibals uncut release).

Thanks. Just for that I might have to change my nomination for "most helpful member" on LA's oscar nom thread.

She was also nude in a film called "orgasmo negro" starring Richard Harrison.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: titoli on December 03, 2006, 02:14:27 AM
I know it. But check the other one (uncut version) and don't tell my fav mod I told you.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: Banjo on May 26, 2007, 12:42:30 PM
Arizona Colts review:-

LONG DAYS OF VENGEANCE 1966-Very good and involving Guiliano Gemma Italian western about a man (Gemma) escaping a labor camp to avenge the wrongs done to him. Gemma’s hero is much different here from his portrayal of Ringo and others. In this film, humor is kept to a minimum and Gemma is a thinking mans gunslinger as he uses trickery to get himself out of sticky situations. The barber scene near the beginning is masterfully done. The remainder of the film is just as good. There is much story and dialog but the film is the better for it. The action scenes are well done with an unusual (for the time) finale where things aren’t going quite to plan for the hero. Some complain the film drags but I found no problem with it as I was drawn into the story mechanics. There’s more going on than standard good guy-gets-revenge-on-the-bad-guys scenario. This version contains a 120 minute Italian version, a 90 minute Spanish version that oddly enough, has much better picture quality and is correctly framed at 2:35:1. An English track is included but during the bits where there was no english dubbing, no english subs are provided either. The longer cut is best as it fleshes out scenes and characters even more. It’s not hard to follow though. If you’re a Gemma fan, you’ll want to see it regardless.


Title: Re: I lunghi giorni della vendetta aka Long Days of Vengeance (1967)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on March 13, 2010, 10:53:53 AM
I just finished watching two versions of that movie. The first time, and until the last 20 minutes, I wasn't sure if I was actually liking the movie or not. At the end, I came to the conclusion that I did like it. Indeed, it is another classic Gemma SW, and even if the plot and some of the scenes are not too original (in fact, they are very similar to other GG movies), I did like many of the camera shots as well as the soundtrack. At the very least, the movie is entertaining.

Don't know about the 120 minutes version. What I have seen is the Spanish 90 minutes version and another version with Japanese subtitles which is about 102 minutes long. Some of the differences between both versions below.

Scenes in the Japanese version not included in the Spanish version:

  • Extended escape from prison.
  • Extended bandits' riding.
  • Attempted rape of Pajarito's daughter (Dulcie).
  • Conversation between Gemma and the station master.
  • Gemma walking towards a building.
  • Gemma carrying sheriff Douglas's corpse and conversation with Pajarito and Dulcie.
  • Extended scene of Mr. Cobb and General Profirio waiting for the train.
  • Extended Gemma's torture.
  • Scene with Pajarito and Dulcie.
  • Extended fight between Cobb's and Porfirio's' men.
  • Extended scene of Gemma in Jail.
  • Scene of the gallows being built + Nieves Navarro walking on the street.
  • Extended scenes of preparations for hanging.
  • Extended final fighting.

Scenes in the Spanish version not included in the Japanese version:

  • Execution of two black men (killed by Cobb), as well as of the villager who betrayed them (killed by one of Cobb's men.
  • Extended conversation between Mr. Cobb and General Porfirio.
  • Extended railway station scene.
  • Extended conversation between sheriff Douglas and Nieves Navarro.
  • Extended conversation between sheriff Douglas and his deputy.
  • Scene of Mr. Cobb searching for documents in the late sheriff's safe, and being questioned by the judge.

I may have missed a few more details, but I was not in the mood of watching two movies side by side taking note of every difference. The fact remains, the Spanish version is a much nicer print, but some of the scenes in the Japanese version should have been included in the Spanish version (mainly the conversation between Gemma and the station master, as it adds clues regarding his father's murder).


6.5/10