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Title: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on May 29, 2006, 04:46:50 AM
A close up of a pair of eyes,a boys face,down below we see a catapult extended and loaded with a stone,back to the face,then to the catapult slowly raising,his face again and so on until finally we see the catapult directly in the boys eyeline.The stone is released and to the sound of gunshots ricocheting the stone and camera lens bounce all over the place until the stone finally comes to its resting place just before the boy who is now fully in view-it is Ringo(impressively played by the young Eugene Fernandez).Sound familiar?
     Before you know it the sweet sound of those wonderful melancholic strings come within earshot introducing us to Morricones main "Sean Theme" from Duck You Sucker and the title appears - "EmeRy Films
Present - FIREARM"-written and directed by our friend The Firecracker! We return to Ringo who is now joyfully running with and caressing his dog Red.On the ground there is a mound swarming with ants but instead of pissing on them like elsewhere  ;) Ringo pokes away with a stick,but while this happens Red has run off towards an ominous silhouette  of six figures seemingly wearing ponchos and dusters.On closer inspection there's an unshaven very cool but mean looking leader Groucho(played very charismatically with a lot of humour by Victor Fernandez)wiping away a nose bleed along with five badass Mexicans including Nino(Mitchell Lee Davis)who i swear by his appearance and mannerisms is a reincarnation of Mario Brega.In fact with their course laughter and gross eating habits they could easily be mistaken for Indios gang in For A Few Dollars More and they are all standing in a stark,dried up grey surronding that looks very much like the Miocene clay of Almeria!
The bandits are wrestling over a ham sandwich,but suddenly it is snatched away by Red who proceeds to chomp into his prize.However Groucho is now seething and with little hesitation opens fire.Ringo desperately comes running over to save his pet but it is too late,Groucho finishes off the poor animal to the sneering approval of the other bandits.Groucho seeing the hatred in Ringo's eyes tosses him a pistol with which the boy frantically pulls the trigger again and again,but its useless,the gun is empty.Those bastards have now walked off but Groucho has made the biggest mistake of his life-he's dropped a bullet and Ringo still has the pistol.
I'm not going to give away any more but by now you will have figured that this is a revenge Spaghetti Western and during this movie (made in February 2005) of just under half an hour the director has very much opted for style over storyline considerations but as a Sergio Leone tribute this is very entertaining stuff.Pretty much every Leone trick in the book is utilised with the camera zooming in from all angles,gun duels drawn out to the maximum with bloody but imaginative deaths,windswept sound effects throughout and other great effects like the crunching of boots and cocking of pistols.To add to the authenticity ,like Leone everything has been overdubbed including some Spanish dialogue and i understand samples from other sw's.
     Along with all this we are treated to some very effective and appropriate musical accompaniment taken from the such movies as Django,The Dollars trilogy,OUATITW,Long Days of Vengeance and The Return Of Ringo which all fit the mood of the action perfectly.In between Timothy Murphy(also one of the bandits) provides basic but dynamic acoustic guitar accompaniment including some nice staccato licks and excellent repetitive riffs ascending up the musical scale.
     This is a very promising directorial debut which i understand was made on a shoestring budget .This obviously  accounts for the lack such things as horses and other locations but this in no way undermines an admirable attempt at emulating the master Sergio Leone to which this movie is lovingly dedicated.
    Stunningly filmed in widescreen and very recommended!! :D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Leone Admirer on May 29, 2006, 05:30:55 AM
Agree with banjo, it must be checked out, very interesting neo-spaghetti.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: columba on June 02, 2006, 06:41:00 AM
Are you going to do a full length sw then Firecracker and if so can I have an invite to the premier? ;D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 03:39:24 PM
Thanks for the review Banjo :)

This is a mistake on my part but Ringo is the one who finishes his dog off. Grocho(the sadistic bastard he is) gives Ringo one of his guns with only one bullet to kill his own dog. When ringo pulls the trigger on Grocho it doesnt work because it is a single action revolver and will not fire unless the hammer is pulled down. Ringo did not know this until the more sympathetic bandit "Eli" shows him how to cock the gun.
sorry for the confusion. I guess I didnt get that across to well in the film and I am ashamed of it.

Timmy's guitar playing is decent filler for the soundtrack. I do enjoy "Grocho's theme"(which is played when you first meet the gang) but the rest is far too repetative and rather annoying, but that is all I could get. Thankfully Morricone and Bacalov were there (not literally) to help me out.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 04:50:39 PM
Also Banjo, is "Catapult" what the English call a "slingshot"? Yes it is similar to a catapult indeed but around these here parts we calls it a "slingshot"


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 04:50:54 PM
Thanks for the review Banjo :)

This is a mistake on my part but Ringo is the one who finishes his dog off. Grocho(the sadistic bastard he is) gives Ringo on of his guns with only one bullet to kill his own dog. When ringo pulls the trigger on Grocho it doesnt work because it is a single action revolver and will not fire unless the hammer is pulled down. Ringo did not know this until the more sympathetic bandit "Eli" shows him how to cock the gun.
sorry for the confusion. I guess I didnt put that across to well in the film and I am ashamed of it.

Timmy's guitar playing is decent filler for the soundtrack. I do enjoy "Grocho's theme"(which is played when you first meet the gang) but the rest is far too repetative and rather annoying, but that is all I could get. Thankfully Morricone and Bacalov were there (not literally) to help me out.
I guess i shudda looked a bit closer but theres quite alot of the camera panning around in that particular scene with the dog.
I noticed some bum notes in the first bunch of guitar riffs for one scene but i really enjoyed the guitar players no nonsense attitude which is evident in his playing.  


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 04:52:47 PM
Also Banjo, is "Catapult" what the English call a "slingshot"? Yes it is similar to a catapult indeed but around these here parts we calls it a "slingshot"
Yeah we call that a catapult!
Was Mitchell Lee Davis aware of his resemblence to Mario Brega and if so did he try and play on this?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 04:56:50 PM

Was Mitchell Lee Davis aware of his resemblence to Mario Brega and if so did he try and play on this?

no. He has never seen or heard of Leone. Nor do I think he has ever seen a western in his whole life. I directed him to act like Brega whenever possible. For example the scratching of his beard during the canine's torture scene.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 05:02:40 PM
Well you did a great job of directing him because his performance was extremely close to Brega's character in the first two dollar movies.
Did you record the guitarist while he played along to the action,or was he recorded seperately and you overdubbed him afterwards?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 05:05:01 PM
Well you did a great job of directing him because his performance was extremely close to Brega's character in the first two dollar movies.
Did you record the guitarist while he played along to the action,or was he recorded seperately and you overdubbed him afterwards?

all sound you hear in the film, with the exception of some natural sounds, was dubbed in later in the editing room.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 05:10:12 PM
So the one tune i didn't recognise must be from Long Days Of Vengeance which arrived on my doormat from the postman this morning?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 05:12:42 PM
So the one tune i didn't recognise must be from Long Days Of Vengeance which arrived on my doormat from the postman this morning?
I suppose you mean the music used for the showdown? Yes that is "Lond Days of Vengeance".


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 05:22:17 PM
Looking at Firearm it looks as if you spent alot of time examining Leones camera work,are you completely self taught in this respect or have you received some sort of training?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 05:25:55 PM
Looking at Firearm it looks as if you spent alot of time examining Leones camera work,are you completely self taught in this respect or have you received some sort of training?

 you learn a great deal just by watching somebody elses work.
you don't need schooling.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 05:31:30 PM
   What with Noodles Leones upcoming film,Marco Leones The Ugly,The Pugly and The Ugly Pugly (i would really love to see and review this one Marco!)it makes you wonder how many more of us have a sw film hidden away in the closet.
Leone Admirer possibly? ::)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 05:33:26 PM
   What with Noodles Leones upcoming film,Marco Leones The Ugly,The Pugly and The Ugly Pugly (i would really love to see and review this one Marco!)it makes you wonder how many more of us have a sw film hidden away in the closet.
Leone Admirer possibly? ::)

I really want to see Leone Admirer's film noir short.
But the sneaky goat is hiding it away from me! ;D
I mentioned it once but not much was said about it and I didnt want to badger him with it so I am patiently waiting for his reply ;)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 05:36:02 PM
Well our good friend's very much logged on at this very moment!


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 05:42:00 PM
You mentioned in a pm about the upcoming full length western which i understand will have Sartana influences?Will you be striving to use more locations,a western town or Almeria possibly?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 05:50:15 PM
Well our good friend's very much logged on at this very moment!

it seems he has slipt away just as we were commenting on it.
mmmm.... curious ;D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 05:52:34 PM
You mentioned in a pm about the upcoming full length western which i understand will have Sartana influences?Will you be striving to use more locations,a western town or Almeria possibly?
oh no no.
I doubt it will be full lenght. I am guessing it would be at least 50 minutes to an hour considering alot more characters and story.
Personally I just want to experiment on how to make a good gunfight on this one.

And yes the Sartana influence is there. and expect an interesting use of communion wafers.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 05:58:28 PM
And yes the Sartana influence is there. and expect an interesting use of communion wafers.
You can't have a Sartana movie without a NEW gimmick so i'm very intrigued about the communion wafers.
What about using some cool Bruno Nicholai music in this one and can Mitchell Lee Davis play a Fernando Sancho type role?
50-60 minutes sounds great and will allow a lot more time for plot and character development.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 06:12:41 PM
Mitchell Lee Davis play a Fernando Sancho type role?

how did you ever guess?
He plays the leader of mexican bandits who travel by boat through the sea.

which reminds me this is more of an "eastern" and will be set on a more tropical setting, but it will have a nice period cottage near the beach(which will be great setting for the final confrontation) and an abandoned fishing village which will be used as a ghost town.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 06:17:36 PM
Will there be a different leading man to Victor Fernandez this time and some horses maybe?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 06:26:21 PM
Will there be a different leading man to Victor Fernandez this time and some horses maybe?


Horses will hopefully be used. They are in the script but rather hard to come by around here.
sadly Victor will not be attending this outing for he is much to busy teaching at the moment. The leading baddie will be a vain character who enjoys to look at himself in a personal mirror. Auditioning for that will occur tomorrow actually.
The leading man(the anti-hero) will be played by Roberto Escobar who is a working actor whom I met during my short time in college. You can see Roberto's film list and picture on Imdb.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 03, 2006, 06:37:41 PM
Hopefully your new bunch of actors will be more familiar with sw's but it would be even better to have horses as well ;)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 08:42:50 PM
but it would be even better to have horses as well ;)

I will certainly try to get some but whatever participation the horses will obtain will be minimal


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 10:58:51 PM
   What with Noodles Leones upcoming film,Marco Leones The Ugly,The Pugly and The Ugly Pugly


I will be recieving Noodle's western soon. I usually despise other film students short films. They are all rather bad but Noodle's western looks out-standing!
I really want to see Marco's two films as well. They both look like funny parodies and I dont mind the modern day back drop so long as it is a comedy.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 03, 2006, 11:03:43 PM
hey Banjo, have you seen my cameo in the film?
I show up as a shadow three times!


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: noodles_leone on June 04, 2006, 03:39:42 AM
Great interview banjo:)
I've also enjoyed Firearm 8)

I would like to create a forum where all of us could speak about their amator movies.. I'll post the adress there if I can find 5 minutes to do so...


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 04, 2006, 04:28:12 AM
Hey Noodles Leone,surely this(or the other discussions forum) is the perfect place to discuss all your amateur movies and i notice already that your upcoming movie has attracted a  large interest from members on this board.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 04, 2006, 04:36:13 AM
Great interview banjo:)
I've also enjoyed Firearm 8)
Thanks,a lot more was discussed about Firearm in my pms with Firecracker but unfortunately i can't reproduce these here because they've mainly been erased   :'( and i would feel silly repeating my questions-but i guess some more of you guys may see Firearm at some point! ::)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: noodles_leone on June 04, 2006, 05:03:44 AM
Yes, but for instance I made other movies, that have nothing to do with Sergio, SW and the like... I cannot talk about it here... Exept in the "off topic" thread... But I'd like sthg more specific, where any film director/amator could speak, introduce himself, ask questions, and, most of all, see the work of others. Don't you think it would be great? I'm sure i'm too ambitious, i cannot create sthg so popular, but if i only could encourage the meeting of a few talentuous guys, it would not be useless:)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 04, 2006, 05:07:11 AM
Does sound great-but there can never be too much to read or write about on this site.But do what you think best ;)


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Post by: noodles_leone on June 04, 2006, 05:15:37 AM
lol:)
i'm working on the forum, but that's harder that what I though :P


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 04, 2006, 05:19:25 AM
Good luck with that forum Noodles Leone-i'm looking forward to it-but hopefully you will at least keep everyone here still posted about your western movies? ::)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Marco Leone on June 04, 2006, 05:28:48 AM
By the sounds of it, Firecrackers effort is far more professional than my "The Ugly the Pugly and the Pug-Ugly" and its sequal "Two Clints for Sister Sarah".  These were basically just two blokes on a piss up in Almeria with a video camera, and a variety of ponchos and wigs.  But now its been burnt to DVD I may just share it with a few people!  :D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 04, 2006, 05:29:47 AM
hey Banjo, have you seen my cameo in the film?
I show up as a shadow three times!
I'll check that out Firecracker ;D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 04, 2006, 05:43:27 AM
By the sounds of it, Firecrackers effort is far more professional than my "The Ugly the Pugly and the Pug-Ugly" and its sequal "Two Clints for Sister Sarah".  These were basically just two blokes on a piss up in Almeria with a video camera, and a variety of ponchos and wigs.  But now its been burnt to DVD I may just share it with a few people!  :D
Still sounds like a must see-i've been meaning to pick up the Comic Strip team larking around in A Fistful Of Travellers Cheques which i haven't seen in years.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 04, 2006, 10:38:43 AM
But now its been burnt to DVD I may just share it with a few people!  :D

I'll send you a pm.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Marco Leone on June 04, 2006, 03:47:18 PM
The Comic Strip episode is a classic.  I guess its that style that we worked on in Almeria, albeit it mine is far more peurile.  lots of farting over dubs and drunken antics.  but it does have a story!  hidden in there somewhere  :D

Once I get the dvd burner on my pc (this week) i'll be able to run off copies from the master versions.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 05, 2006, 04:59:06 AM
The Comic Strip episode is a classic.  I guess its that style that we worked on in Almeria, albeit it mine is far more peurile. 
I don't know how many times this episode was repeated but i only saw it on the original screening from what must over 20 years ago.My memorys very vague but i do remember a "duel" between (i think) Rik Mayal and Ade Edmundson where they both gob out some flem only for the wind to blow back the flem back all over one of them ;D If yours is more peurile than that i can't wait to see it! ;)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Leone Admirer on June 05, 2006, 10:54:39 AM
I really want to see Leone Admirer's film noir short.
But the sneaky goat is hiding it away from me! ;D
I mentioned it once but not much was said about it and I didnt want to badger him with it so I am patiently waiting for his reply ;)

He he he, it's not been shot yet. I'm getting the money together as we speak so I can get it done on HD (it's my first proffesional short). I tell you what give me a PM, and I'll send you a draft of the script.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on June 05, 2006, 10:56:25 AM
sent you a pm.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Leone Admirer on June 05, 2006, 11:03:13 AM
Thanks, and sent the required script  ;D


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Post by: The Firecracker on June 05, 2006, 11:06:18 AM
Thanks, and sent the required script  ;D

that was quick! :o
must have a look see when I am done here.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Marco Leone on June 06, 2006, 08:12:21 AM
I don't know how many times this episode was repeated but i only saw it on the original screening from what must over 20 years ago.My memorys very vague but i do remember a "duel" between (i think) Rik Mayal and Ade Edmundson where they both gob out some flem only for the wind to blow back the flem back all over one of them ;D If yours is more peurile than that i can't wait to see it! ;)

Oooooh yes its more peurile.

I may be able to sort the Comic Strip for you shortly if you want.......


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Post by: Banjo on June 07, 2006, 05:11:54 AM
Oooooh yes its more peurile.

I may be able to sort the Comic Strip for you shortly if you want.......
WOW yes please! :)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on August 01, 2006, 02:32:47 AM
A review of Firearm has just been added to Shobarys "fanworks" category with some photo stills.

http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/misc/fanwork/fire/arm.htm

Shobarys a little harsh in his opinion but for the $200 budget this movie cost to make i maintain its a good first stab at a sw,and i'm looking forward to the (Sartana influenced-apparently) follow up to Firearm.


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Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 02:40:17 AM
and i'm looking forward to the (Sartana influenced-apparently) follow up to Firearm.


Follow up as in "next film". NOT a sequel.

And at least Shobary is honest with his review. much rather get true negative comments then false compliments.

Too bad he didnt have that coffin rating set up. oh well.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on August 01, 2006, 02:54:29 AM
Follow up as in "next film". NOT a sequel.

And at least Shobary is honest with his review. much rather get true negative comments then false compliments.

Too bad he didnt have that coffin rating set up. oh well.
You gotta bear in mind that Shobary gives 23% to Today Its Me Tommorow It You,20% to Django The Bastard and 10% to 4 of the Apocalypse.
I suspect that if you'd have managed to get an ageing Gianni Garko into Firearm then he would've given it 100% ::)


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Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 02:56:01 AM

I suspect that if you'd have managed to get an ageing Gianni Garko into Firearm then he would've given it 100% ::)

which reminds me...gotta call Gianni to see if he's up for saturdays shooting. ;D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 02:57:37 AM
You gotta bear in mind that Shobary gives 23% to Today Its Me Tommorow It You,20% to Django The Bastard and 10% to 4 of the Apocalypse.



hopefully he's quote

"Not bad-but something is missing"

means roughly around a 60% perhaps?????


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on August 01, 2006, 03:04:52 AM
Well if Gods Gun gets 50%-theres obviously something there i'm missing  ;D  then 60% sounds quite mean!!


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 03:05:55 AM
Well if Gods Gun gets 50%-theres obviously something there i'm missing  ;D  then 60% sounds quite mean!!


well "Firearm" doesnt have LVC sadly.


and GG is one of Shobary's few sw gradings I totally agree on.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on August 01, 2006, 03:10:06 AM
and GG is one of Shobary's few sw gradings I totally agree on.
Are you saying that GG is better than all those rated below that you've seen? :o


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Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 03:14:10 AM
Are you saying that GG is better than all those rated below that you've seen? :o


NO WAY!

I'm just saying that it deserves its place. Mostly every other film below it is pretty much out of whack!

The only thing that is noteworthy to be placed as "worse than GG" is "shoot the living, pray for the dead" and "Aquasante Joe" (holy water Joe).


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Post by: Banjo on August 01, 2006, 03:16:39 AM
"Aquasante Joe" (holy water Joe).
I got this to watch-i flicked through it and the music sounds crap-jazzy? ::)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 03:19:41 AM
I got this to watch-i flicked through it and the music sounds crap-jazzy? ::)


Saw it on Turner classic movies (surly this is not a classic  ::) ) a few years ago. dont remember too much of it only that it was downright rubbish.


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Post by: Banjo on August 01, 2006, 03:23:08 AM
I notice Miles Deem who directed Adios Companeros which gets the big 3% rating also did Savage Guns one of the better sw's in the Diamond box!


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Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 03:32:40 AM
I notice Miles Deem who directed Adios Companeros which gets the big 3% rating also did Savage Guns one of the better sw's in the Diamond box!

I have a mini review of Savage Guns (his name was Sam Walash but they called him Amen) here...

http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=2976.30

its on the first post.
it is a really bad film but a highly entertaining one.
I have said before that Deem has a real eye for dynamic shots (sometimes) but he has way too many continuity errors and fails to make a coherent plot.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Leone Admirer on August 01, 2006, 06:08:34 AM
A review of Firearm has just been added to Shobarys "fanworks" category with some photo stills.

http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/misc/fanwork/fire/arm.htm

Shobarys a little harsh in his opinion but for the $200 budget this movie cost to make i maintain its a good first stab at a sw,and i'm looking forward to the (Sartana influenced-apparently) follow up to Firearm.


I agree I thought the review was a little harsh. I enjoyed it immensly, the half hour being the perfect running time for it (in fact I might lave the disc in view of the cam for 'The Wrong Woman'


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 03:31:33 PM
I agree I thought the review was a little harsh. I enjoyed it immensly, the half hour being the perfect running time for it (in fact I might lave the disc in view of the cam for 'The Wrong Woman'

in truth I would say I can cut at the very most 5 minutes out of it to make it a more pleasent viewing.
Thats the way I feel about it.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 03:32:27 PM
(in fact I might lave the disc in view of the cam for 'The Wrong Woman'


what do you mean LA?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 01, 2006, 03:39:10 PM

what do you mean LA?

I was just wondering the same thing.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Leone Admirer on August 01, 2006, 04:27:06 PM
Whoops typo I didn't spot, I thought I would put it on Fullers desk in his room and have it in frame thats all  :)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 01, 2006, 04:30:04 PM
Whoops typo I didn't spot, I thought I would put it on Fullers desk in his room and have it in frame thats all  :)

Oh, okay.



Who's Fuller?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Leone Admirer on August 01, 2006, 04:53:00 PM
The protagonist in the short I'm (still) in prep for


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 01, 2006, 04:53:47 PM
The protagonist in the short I'm (still) in prep for


cool.   8)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on August 01, 2006, 11:50:59 PM
Whoops typo I didn't spot, I thought I would put it on Fullers desk in his room and have it in frame thats all  :)

would it be too obvious?
you wouldnt want a cd in the 1930's.

Or is this based in modern times?

Sorry LA...I read the script but the time period is never mentioned. I always saw it as the 30's.
But since that would be a tremendous pain in the ass with costumes and vehicles and such I guess it would be set today right?

Too bad Fuller never enters a movie theatre. "Firearm" could be playing in it ;D


EDIT: and if you do go ahead with your plans to place "Firearm" in your film I think it is only appropriate that I do some sort of reference to "The Wrong Woman" in my next film.
You know...complimenting each other. My reference to your film would have to be a bit more clever though...I'm set in the late 1800's. :(


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Leone Admirer on August 02, 2006, 05:52:02 AM
This inter-textual referencing is fun  ;D . Yes it is modern times as tracking down vintage cars and putting them in London is not impossible, but very expensive. I guess I could have Firear playing on a TV in the motel near the end? You don't have to mention mine if it's imposible, I understand  :)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 02, 2006, 11:24:57 AM
This inter-textual referencing is fun  ;D .

I got to get in on this!   ;D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on August 02, 2006, 09:11:52 PM
You don't have to mention mine if it's imposible, I understand  :)
Perhaps you'll have to settle for a mention in the credits. ;)


or I could always have one of the characters say..."lets get back to the GATEHOUSE Named OLLIE muchahos!" and then I could have a character wink at the camera. ::)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Leone Admirer on August 03, 2006, 05:26:16 AM
 ;D I'm game if you are!


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Sundance on November 26, 2006, 04:57:09 PM
Perhaps you should make this available for free download through some bittorrent sites (I remember you didn't know how to use bittorrent but I guess you could send it to someone who does) or something IF you don't mind sharing it for free to the entire world. ;D

For example in pirate bay... sure that place is also full of illegal stuff but since the movie is yours there shouldnt be any problems with it (hehe, who knows, maybe MPAA would still try to do something about it... ;D )

I'm sure there are more interested to see it than just some members here, I think someone at Shobary's guestbook was asking for it as well around the time it was reviewed there.

Just a thought. ;D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on November 26, 2006, 04:59:19 PM
Perhaps you should make this available for free download through some bittorrent sites (I remember you didn't know how to use bittorrent but I guess you could send it to someone who does) or something IF you don't mind sharing it for free to the entire world. ;D

For example in pirate bay... sure that place is also full of illegal stuff but since the movie is yours there shouldnt be any problems with it (hehe, who knows, maybe MPAA would still try to do something about it... ;D )

I'm sure there are more interested to see it than just some members here, I think someone at Shobary's guestbook was asking for it as well around the time it was reviewed there.

Just a thought. ;D


One of the members here tried to put it up on youtube some time ago but they wouldn't take it. There could be copyright issues due to the music that is used.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Amaze on November 26, 2006, 05:06:11 PM
what format is the movie on right now? dvd? if so, I could transfer it into a playable avi file and host if for you.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on November 26, 2006, 05:14:15 PM
what format is the movie on right now? dvd? if so, I could transfer it into a playable avi file and host if for you.


Yes it is on dvd.

dvd-r that is...


Brace yourself for a pm.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: pixelated on November 26, 2006, 05:18:46 PM
i would really like to see this also


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Amaze on November 26, 2006, 05:27:03 PM
might be sooner than you think. I'll keep you posted


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on November 27, 2006, 07:00:57 PM
Looks like a member named "Ramon" made one as well...


http://website.lineone.net/~braithwaitej/mainsite/overview/almeria04/sogni/sogni.htm


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Amaze on January 14, 2007, 05:12:09 PM
ok, finally you will all get to see firecracker's movie. I have made it available on my cheap little webserver(7 bucks for a whole year hehe). I made two version one high quality and one low quality. pick whichever fits your needs.

I have packed them with winrar, to keep you from downloading the whole movie at once. when you have all the files just open the first one and it will unpack the full movie.

samples are included for those who wish to see them first for whatever reason...



High Quality Version (http://www.dodgethe.net/Firearm.DVDRip.x264-ATV/)

this one is made with the new x264 codec for the best quality while keeping the size somewhat low. I reccomend using media player classic and ffdshow to play it.

pics:

pic1 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-x264/vlcsnap-742821.png)
pic2 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-x264/vlcsnap-743145.png)
pic3 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-x264/vlcsnap-743234.png)
pic4 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-x264/vlcsnap-743382.png)

some specs for the curios:

    Video Codec   :  x264             
    Video Bitrate :  1580 kbps     
    Audio Codec   :  NT AAC LC 2.0   
    Audio Bitrate :  96kbps 48kHz
    Aspect Ratio  :  2.35:1 Anamorphic           
    Resolution    :  704x352
    Frame Rate    :  29.97 fps
    Runtime       :  29 mins.
    Size          :  1/2 of CD

_______________________________________________________________________


Lower Quality Version (http://www.dodgethe.net/Firearm.DVDRip.XviD-ATV/)

this one is made with the older xvid codec, but in turn will work on your standalone divx player if you have one.

pics:

pic1 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-xvid/vlcsnap-7076761.png)
pic2 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-xvid/vlcsnap-7076903.png)
pic3 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-xvid/vlcsnap-7076996.png)
pic4 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-xvid/vlcsnap-7077096.png)

specs:

Video Codec   :  XviD             
Video Bitrate :  1003 kbps     
Audio Codec   :  MP3 VBR 2.0   
Audio Bitrate :  95kbps 48kHz
Aspect Ratio  :  2.35:1           
Resolution    :  624x264
Frame Rate    :  29.97 fps
Runtime       :  29 mins.
Size          :  1/3 of CD

_______________________________________________________________


a review for the movie (http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/misc/fanwork/fire/arm.htm)
older discussion thread of the movie on this board (http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=3499.0)

I hope you enjoy!  :)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 14, 2007, 05:15:34 PM
ok, finally you will all get to see firecracker's movie. I have made it available on my cheap little webserver(7 bucks for a whole year hehe). I made two version one high quality and one low quality. pick whichever fits your needs.

I have packed them with winrar, to keep you from downloading the whole movie at once. when you have all the files just open the first one and it will unpack the full movie.

samples are included for those who wish to see them first for whatever reason...



High Quality Version (http://www.dodgethe.net/Firearm.DVDRip.x264-ATV/)

this one is made with the new x264 codec for the best quality while keeping the size somewhat low. I reccomend using media player classic and ffdshow to play it.

pics:

pic1 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-x264/vlcsnap-742821.png)
pic2 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-x264/vlcsnap-743145.png)
pic3 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-x264/vlcsnap-743234.png)
pic4 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-x264/vlcsnap-743382.png)

some specs for the curios:

    Video Codec   :  x264             
    Video Bitrate :  1580 kbps     
    Audio Codec   :  NT AAC LC 2.0   
    Audio Bitrate :  96kbps 48kHz
    Aspect Ratio  :  2.35:1 Anamorphic           
    Resolution    :  704x352
    Frame Rate    :  29.97 fps
    Runtime       :  29 mins.
    Size          :  1/2 of CD

_______________________________________________________________________


Lower Quality Version (http://www.dodgethe.net/Firearm.DVDRip.XviD-ATV/)

this one is made with the older xvid codec, but in turn will work on your standalone divx player if you have one.

pics:

pic1 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-xvid/vlcsnap-7076761.png)
pic2 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-xvid/vlcsnap-7076903.png)
pic3 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-xvid/vlcsnap-7076996.png)
pic4 (http://www.dodgethe.net/firearm-xvid/vlcsnap-7077096.png)

specs:

Video Codec   :  XviD             
Video Bitrate :  1003 kbps     
Audio Codec   :  MP3 VBR 2.0   
Audio Bitrate :  95kbps 48kHz
Aspect Ratio  :  2.35:1           
Resolution    :  624x264
Frame Rate    :  29.97 fps
Runtime       :  29 mins.
Size          :  1/3 of CD

_______________________________________________________________


a review for the movie (http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/misc/fanwork/fire/arm.htm)
older discussion thread of the movie on this board (http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=3499.0)

I hope you enjoy!  :)

THANK YOU JESUS!

i mean... amaze.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 14, 2007, 05:17:30 PM
Thanks Amaze, although I don't know whether to be excited or embarassed.

Just brace yourself. Did it senior year in High School with only 200 bucks.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 14, 2007, 05:34:44 PM
Thanks Amaze, although I don't know whether to be excited or embarassed.

Just brace yourself. Did it senior year in High School with only 200 bucks.

Wow!!! That's the budget my parents set for my film!
Dead serious!

Except I'm a Junior in High school.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 14, 2007, 05:37:26 PM
I keep trying to download Firearm but it's not working.  :'(


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Juan Miranda on January 14, 2007, 05:43:14 PM
My PC no likee either. They seem to be all Mac compatible files.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Amaze on January 14, 2007, 06:11:51 PM
like I said, I packed it with WINrar. it's similar to WINzip. WIN is short for windows. get all the files and then open the one named part01 with WINrar.  ;)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 14, 2007, 09:56:43 PM
Ok, so I downloaded the program WinRAR (http://www.download.com/3000-2250-10007677.html) for free, so now all I have to do is download all those files and I can watch the movie? Easy enough. I won't be able to voice my opinion on this for a while because each file is taking about 8 minutes for me to download.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Amaze on January 15, 2007, 09:59:46 AM
follow silenzio's example everyone  8)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 15, 2007, 10:12:02 AM
follow silenzio's example everyone  8)

Amaze, why don't you just put Firearm on Google Video?

It makes things so much easier.



Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 15, 2007, 09:36:20 PM
Watched this at about 2 o'clock today. Mmmm.... tasty.

the plot itself is humorous (in a dark sort of way) because of the way it's presented. It's about a boy who has many many good times with his dog, "Red." However, "Red" is a mischievous little bastard and steals a sandwich from a member "Grocho's" bandit gang. They think that such an offense commited by an animal should only be punishable my death, so they shoot him. He's wounded mortally, and they make "Red"s owner, the boy, execute the dog to put him out of his misery.

Some of the things I liked about this movie were the actors, they all really looked the part, I thought. There were also some very nice replica gun props. The leader, Grocho, is especially badass looking. Not to mention the Mario Brega/Fernardo Sancho-type fat mexican character. Those two were my favorites.

(http://spaghettiwesterns.1g.fi/misc/fanwork/fire/Firearm06.jpg)

(http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?action-pm;f=inbox;l=-1#msg20009)

The only real problems I have with this movie are the editing: which I thought both the sound and video editing were sloppy and choppy at times, and the originally composed music which is... just plain bad. Yes Firecracker, go tell Timothy Murphy that.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 15, 2007, 09:40:07 PM


 Yes Firecracker, go tell Timothy Murphy that.

I'm dialing his number right now...


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Amaze on January 15, 2007, 11:28:22 PM
Amaze, why don't you just put Firearm on Google Video?
It makes things so much easier.

because I wanted to make it downloadable. is it really that hard to get it to work?




Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on January 16, 2007, 07:38:11 AM
both the sound and video editing were sloppy and choppy at times
Hey this is a spaghetti western,afterall ???
Whats wrong with the soundtrack?All very well chosen material in my book and works well with the visuals  O0


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 16, 2007, 10:04:47 AM

Whats wrong with the soundtrack?All very well chosen material in my book and works well with the visuals  O0

He means Timothy Murphy's guitar contributions not the excellent sw soundtracks.

Personally I like Timmy's theme for the gang but the rest is filler.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on January 16, 2007, 01:41:01 PM
Oh i forgot about him.Some dodgy notes but in the right spirit!


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 16, 2007, 02:50:21 PM
because I wanted to make it downloadable. is it really that hard to get it to work?




It is.

A lot of people are complaining that it's unable to work and/or taking too much time.


If you just put it on Google Video, it's only a mouse click away.  ;)



Plus, Google Video allows more than 10 minute videos, and unlimited megabites.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 16, 2007, 04:01:55 PM



Plus, Google Video allows more than 10 minute videos, and unlimited megabites.


They have poor quality videos don't they?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 16, 2007, 06:12:13 PM
It's not at all hard to get this stuff to work.

Just download that program winrar (took me just a few minutes to download and install), and make a nice new folder called "Firearm." Then download those seventeen different parts, and save them into your new "Firearm" folder (and it's not strenuous to download seventeen different parts, just keep his browser open and whenever one of the items stops, start the next. If you do this all the time that you're on the computer, it won't take long at all to download it). Then open the very first part of what you downloaded with Winrar, and it will automatically play the movie on RealPlayer.


-------------------------


I watched the movie once again, the editing is better than i remember it being. I guess I just knew what to expect this time or something. However..... i still don't like the Tim Murphy. Make sure you put your earphones on so that you can hear every damn note while he goes up a chromatic scale up until the point when the dog gets shot. Innovative.  ::)

Maybe I'm a little too hard on him..........


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 16, 2007, 06:18:46 PM


Maybe I'm a little too hard on him..........

Burn him I says (along with every copy of "Firearm").


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Amaze on January 16, 2007, 06:46:37 PM
It is.

A lot of people are complaining that it's unable to work and/or taking too much time.

well, tell all those people to send me a pm about what the problem is and I'll be glad to help.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on January 17, 2007, 01:45:46 AM
Burn him
Naughty,naughty !! ;)



Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 18, 2007, 09:00:20 PM
I made a trailer for Firecracker's movie. Unfortunately, since it was on Windows Movie Maker, the widescreen ratio of the movie was "pinched" down to the 1.33:1 ratio. Also, the clips were imported kind of oddly in Windows Movie Maker, so sometimes when it transitions from one shot to another you see a flash of a completely different shot. It's quite odd.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5234013859824997899 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5234013859824997899)

I'm sure it's a surprise to you ALL that I refrained from using Timothy Murphy's original guitar tunes.  ::)


Don't let the time length scare you away, the trailer seems to go by rather fast (even though it's about three minutes longer than I originally intended)


I hope this convinces some of you guys that the download is worth it. Everytime i watch the movie I dig it more and more and more. I'm even becoming (a little) forgiving on Murphy's music (a little)*






*but not much.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Amaze on January 19, 2007, 02:29:39 AM
heh, nice


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 19, 2007, 02:13:43 PM
Wow.  :o

That was really good.


I wanna see more!  :D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 19, 2007, 02:18:02 PM
Wow.  :o

That was really good.


I wanna see more!  :D

Then download it.  :D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 19, 2007, 03:29:24 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5427816890812680716 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5427816890812680716)

Thanks Peace and Amaze for the positive feedback on the old trailer, but this new shortened version is much more trailer-like.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: cigar joe on January 19, 2007, 04:30:03 PM
I enjoyed what I saw too.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 20, 2007, 12:08:05 AM
I enjoyed this a lot more...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4638571912786912480&q=firearm


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 20, 2007, 03:03:11 PM
I enjoyed this a lot more...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4638571912786912480&q=firearm

 ;D

Classic.


Hilarious new signature too.  ;)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Kurug3n on January 22, 2007, 05:39:28 PM
Nice work with the trailer silenzio cant wait to see this movie later just have to extract the files.

Edit:Is there a IMDB page for it??  ;D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on January 23, 2007, 08:03:12 AM
Tried watching it but it keeps sticking every 2 seconds :'(

Well at least i've got the DVD :D


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: geoman-1 on January 27, 2007, 12:12:12 PM
Damn, FC. IMHO, the gratuitous dog-shooting scene would have been better
left on the editing room floor.  >:(


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 27, 2007, 12:17:57 PM
Damn, FC. IMHO, the gratuitous dog-shooting scene would have been better
left on the editing room floor.  >:(

Then the plot wouldn't make a whole lotta sense....


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: geoman-1 on January 27, 2007, 12:24:26 PM
Just a bit of advice. Any movie that has purely "gratuitous" violence against
animals will not fare well with the viewing public. I emphasize the word "gratuitous", which indeed was the case.
Possible other shooting victims: mother, father, brother, sister, uncle, nephew etc., etc.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 27, 2007, 12:26:05 PM
Just a bit of advice. Any movie that has purely "gratuitous" violence against
animals will not fare well with the viewing public. I emphasize the word "gratuitous", which indeed was the case.
Possible other shooting victims: mother, father, brother, sister, uncle, nephew etc., etc.

I think you'd get the best emotional impact from killing a woman or small crying child.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 27, 2007, 12:29:59 PM
Just a bit of advice. Any movie that has purely "gratuitous" violence against
animals will not fare well with the viewing public. I emphasize the word "gratuitous", which indeed was the case.
Possible other shooting victims: mother, father, brother, sister, uncle, nephew etc., etc.

Even though it's true, so I see where you're coming from, I think it's disgusting that we live in a world where the death of a dog is considered more disgusting than, say, the killing of a mother, father, brother, sister, uncle, nephew etc., etc.

Even though murder in any case is sick.



Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 27, 2007, 12:33:00 PM
Even though murder in any case is sick.

Agreed.

Unless it's to a person who has killed innocents.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 27, 2007, 12:35:04 PM
Agreed.

Unless it's to a person who has killed innocents.

Sure, like Saddam. I think The Death Penalty is considerably more humane than life in prison.

EDIT: Well, actually, I guess I can't say. I've never died and I've never been in prison.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: geoman-1 on January 27, 2007, 12:37:27 PM
NO, NO, NO. Please! I emphasized "gratuitous". The way the scene was edited it obviously
played to the appetite of the sick people who enjoy inflicting pain on animals.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 27, 2007, 12:41:10 PM
NO, NO, NO. Please! I emphasized "gratuitous". The way the scene was edited it obviously
played to the appetite of the sick people who enjoy inflicting pain on animals.

I think it was edited to emphasize just how sick the character of Grocho was. It's a spaghetti western, aren't the villains expected to be sick?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 27, 2007, 12:43:37 PM
Exactly. And the more brutal and twistedly evil you make the villain, it shows the audience what is wrong not trying to glorify it.

I love movie villains who are twistedly evil that they would kill anyone and anything for any reason using any method. That way, when the hero kills the villain you make the audience feel good watching someone so evil be condemned.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: geoman-1 on January 27, 2007, 12:45:57 PM
Agreed. But again I go back to my original premise. The scene went beyond
what was required to elicit emotions from the viewers. The scene was filmed to titillate
not anger the viewer. That is a big difference. I hope to get some
feedback from FC.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 27, 2007, 12:51:25 PM
Exactly. And the more brutal and twistedly evil you make the villain, it shows the audience what is wrong not trying to glorify it.

I love movie villains who are twistedly evil that they would kill anyone and anything for any reason using any method. That way, when the hero kills the villain you make the audience feel good watching someone so evil be condemned.

I agree. I can only remember a few films that actually made me forget i was watching a movie and literally yell at the screen, pull out my hair, and yell "I HOPE HE DIES A TERRIBLE DEATH!" One of those movies was OUATITW.




Anyways, I don't think this "disagreement" has anyway more to go, 'cause there is no basis on fact, it's all opinions. Geoman thinks the scene went too far, I don't. Nothing on this board is going to change either of our opinions.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 27, 2007, 12:55:07 PM
I agree. I can only remember a few films that actually made me forget i was watching a movie and literally yell at the screen, pull out my hair, and yell "I HOPE HE DIES A TERRIBLE DEATH!" One of those movies was OUATITW.

Me too when I first saw it.

When I saw Frank pull out and cock his gun, my heart dropped and I knew the kid was dead. I couldn't believe how terrible that was. I was very pleased to see Harmonica put a .45 into Frank's chest.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: geoman-1 on January 27, 2007, 12:58:35 PM
Now if that scene included the child's blood being sprayed on Frank's face, how
would you react. It has never happened in a mainstream film and never will. It's
called "crossing the lines of decency". Unless you like snuff films ;)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on January 27, 2007, 01:15:28 PM
Now if that scene included the child's blood being sprayed on Frank's face, how
would you react. It has never happened in a mainstream film and never will. It's
called "crossing the lines of decency". Unless you like snuff films ;)

I don't mind crossing that line.

There are horrible people like that in this world. I don't mind showing such disturbing images in a film to make the audience hate the bad guy.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: geoman-1 on January 27, 2007, 01:25:34 PM
Though, I think if the director leaves more to the imagination
it can have an even more profound effect on the viewer, instead
of just creating disgust, IMHO. Just like Leone's scene.
We never saw the boy being shot but we were appalled by
Frank's action nonetheless.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 27, 2007, 01:30:33 PM
Though, I think if the director leaves more to the imagination
it can have an even more profound effect on the viewer, instead
of just creating disgust, IMHO. Just like Leone's scene.
We never saw the boy being shot but we were appalled by
Frank's action.


I agree, it often is more effective to not show such violence. For example, the scene of the massacred home in The Searchers.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: geoman-1 on January 27, 2007, 01:34:55 PM
Great example Silenzio. Also, we can't forget Juan's slaughtered family scene in DYS.
The actual execution would have been too much to digest for the average viewer.
Can you envision that scene if Leone decided to "cross that line of decency" and actually show
the young boys being shot. Remember, Leone did show the executions of the other "adult"
victims of the revolution, which is acceptable to the average viewer.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Jon1 on January 27, 2007, 02:05:03 PM
Saw the extended trailer made by Silenzio....looks good.  Although I had no idea what was happening really...but it's a trailer, not the real thing.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Kurug3n on January 27, 2007, 02:32:48 PM
Though, I think if the director leaves more to the imagination
it can have an even more profound effect on the viewer, instead
of just creating disgust, IMHO. Just like Leone's scene.
We never saw the boy being shot but we were appalled by
Frank's action nonetheless.


probably Cannibal Holocaust was a somewhat influence on the scene? or not


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 27, 2007, 07:11:00 PM
Damn, FC. IMHO, the gratuitous dog-shooting scene would have been better
left on the editing room floor.  >:(


Did it bother you that much?

AWESOME!
(That was the intention)


IMHO I think your pulling my leg as I don't think those particular few seconds were edited very well.

+ the violence was off screen.

Jon1: Don't feel bad, I can't understand what's going on in that trailer either.

Kurugen: Nope. Nothing was influenced from Cannibal Holocaust.



Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 27, 2007, 07:13:09 PM

Jon1: Don't feel bad, I can't understand what's going on in that trailer either.




 >:(

You gonna make me have to whip out that old sig of me whapping you in the yarbles? (the cunning modification of the image is only comparable to Juan Miranda's achievements in terms of ingeniousness)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 27, 2007, 07:16:31 PM
  (the cunning modification of the image is only comparable to Juan Miranda's achievements in terms of ingeniousness)

I agree. My "Van Cleef + Law" avatar pales in comparision.

My short film needs to be seen from beginning to end. You can't catch it in the middle and know what's going on since there is little to no dialogue (3 lines I believe). The trailer you made was overlong and chopped up.  :P


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 27, 2007, 07:18:25 PM
The trailer you made was overlong and chopped up.  :P

I think you mean over-AWESOME and PORK chops.

But yeah, that original one was way too long. You convinced me that it was worthless to try and describe the plot with the trailer, so I chopped off the three minute prologue that showed the dog taking the sandwich.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 27, 2007, 07:25:35 PM
I think you mean over-AWESOME and PORK chops.

But yeah, that original one was way too long. You convinced me that it was worthless to try and describe the plot with the trailer, so I chopped off the three minute prologue that showed the dog taking the sandwich.


You could have easily made a 30 second flashy dashy trailer with some music and a quick statment describing the plot...







Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on January 27, 2007, 07:30:39 PM

You could have easily made a 30 second flashy dashy trailer with some music and a quick statment describing the plot...







You could've easily made Firearm a seven minute film. NOOOCH.

Just kidding.  :)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 27, 2007, 07:33:41 PM
You could've easily made Firearm a seven minute film. NOOOCH.

Just kidding.  :)


The intention was 15 minutes but I filmed so much that it became 28.

I can cut a good 5 minutes off of it to make it better.



Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Amaze on January 27, 2007, 08:12:57 PM
btw, firecracker. forgot to answer your pm. out of 9000 people, no one wanted it. sorry.  ???


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 27, 2007, 08:17:19 PM
btw, firecracker. forgot to answer your pm. out of 9000 people, no one wanted it. sorry.  ???


Huh?

You'll have to refresh my memory amaze :-[


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Kurug3n on January 27, 2007, 09:55:48 PM

Kurugen: Nope. Nothing was influenced from Cannibal Holocaust.



i see


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: geoman-1 on January 28, 2007, 08:24:41 AM
Other than the aforementioned issue with the dog, I thought it was a
good effort, considering the budget constraints. The actors had
good facial characteristics a la Leone. Friends of yours FC?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Sanjuro on January 28, 2007, 11:50:34 AM

The intention was 15 minutes but I filmed so much that it became 28.

I can cut a good 5 minutes off of it to make it better.



I saw "Firearm" last year. I must say I really enjoyed it. I've seen three times already. I didn't mind the running time as it is now, but you can tighten up here and there, and maybe you can shorten three minutes or so?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Firecracker on January 28, 2007, 07:45:23 PM
I saw "Firearm" last year. I must say I really enjoyed it. I've seen three times already. I didn't mind the running time as it is now, but you can tighten up here and there, and maybe you can shorten three minutes or so?


Yes three minutes sounds good. Unfortunatly I don't have an editing system at my disposal at the moment.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: moviesceleton on June 07, 2007, 06:22:17 AM
So where can I download this?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 07, 2007, 04:25:55 PM
Check out page 6.

I'm looking forward to hearing FC's latest update about his current western. :)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Man with no dame on June 07, 2007, 04:27:56 PM
Check out page 6.

I'm looking forward to hearing FC's latest update about his current western. :)
  Just out of curiosity, has anyone heard from FC lately? :-\


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Silenzio on June 07, 2007, 06:42:04 PM
He's been gone, but is back now.


But i'm going to be gone as of tomorrow til mid-July or so.  Probably without internets.  I know you guys'll cry yourselves to sleep, but just circle any given day in July, and anticipate my return.


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: The Peacemaker on June 07, 2007, 09:28:38 PM
He's been gone, but is back now.


But i'm going to be gone as of tomorrow til mid-July or so.  Probably without internets.  I know you guys'll cry yourselves to sleep, but just circle any given day in July, and anticipate my return.

We'll miss you masked stranger.   :'(


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: marmota-b on June 08, 2007, 02:33:06 AM
I can't download it. :'( It gives me another site instead...


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 09, 2007, 04:29:32 AM
I couldn't when i tried either,but i have it on dvd!


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: marmota-b on June 09, 2007, 12:58:15 PM
I couldn't when i tried either,but i have it on dvd!

So could you upload it somewhere again, for example?


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: Banjo on June 09, 2007, 06:01:22 PM
I would if i knew how ,so maybe some young computer whizz like Silenzio maybe the answer? :)


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: marmota-b on June 10, 2007, 01:08:16 PM
I don't know how to do it either...


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: noodles_leone on June 27, 2007, 06:09:54 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5427816890812680716 (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5427816890812680716)

Thanks Peace and Amaze for the positive feedback on the old trailer, but this new shortened version is much more trailer-like.

The link doesn't work for me...


Title: Re: "Firearm" a Movie by The Firecracker...Available For Download
Post by: moviesceleton on July 07, 2007, 03:18:47 AM
I can't download it. :'( It gives me another site instead...
Same here. Please, could someone upload it again somewhere.