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Title: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Rblondie on May 29, 2003, 06:18:42 PM
Has there ever been an actor other than Randolph Scott whose best film was his last?  Peckinpah's second film ranks with his best. Beautiful photography (Lucian Ballard) and muscical score (George Bassman) along with a terrific and touching finale.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: KERMIT on May 29, 2003, 08:42:26 PM
honest to god. not trying ta kiss up to ya, but RTHC is an all time great. won't go into why as i tend to ramble.
 
i can't remember peoples names but i can remember each theater i've seen every movie i've seen. would consult a shrink but he jus wouldn't get it.

saw it in '62 @ the state theater.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Groggy on April 09, 2005, 03:57:15 PM
I don't know if there's a topic on this yet, but this morning (having been warned five weeks ahead of time by boardwalk_angel on the IMDB  ;D) I was able to watch Peckinpah's first masterpiece and I have just a few things to say.

Wonderful cinematography, and a great cast.  Joel McCrea was wonderful as the straight-laced Judd, but IMO Randolph Scott stole the show.  I did think that Ron Starr as Longtree was an annoying prick, and I wanted him to get wasted.  And the Hammond Bros. were among the most disgusting movie characters I've ever seen.  (Of course, with the likes of Warren Oates, John Davis Chandler, and L.Q. Jones among them, how could they not be?  ;))  R.G. Armstrong, for some reason, I found hilarious, particular his and McCrea's "Battle of the Bible Phrases" during supper time.  I don't think Armstrong was supposed to be a funny character, but that's how he struck me.

My favorite scene was the marriage "ceremony" in the mining camp's bar.  Wonderful show of how Elsa went very quickly from hopeful optimism about escaping her repressive father to horror at the prospect of marrying into the disgusting, inbred Hammond clan.  Great acting from Mariette Hartley too, especially in this scene.  And the Judge Tolliver character was a real hoot.

The final showdown between Scott and McCrea and the three surviving Hammond Bros. was truly, IMO, one of the best movie climaxes ever.

Also liked noticing all the recurring Peckinpah phrases - "Redneck peckerwood", "I don't need no bath", "Get the ball rolling!" - all three phrases would be used in several other Peckinpah films.

And "I just want to enter my house justified" is certainly one of, if not the, best movie lines of all time.

I'd give it 9/10.  Not as good as "The Wild Bunch", but that's a pretty high bar to reach.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on April 09, 2005, 05:47:10 PM
I'm glad that you were able to catch it..Groggy.
First time I saw this film was in a church...a local Film Society presented it as part of a terrific series of Westerns they were showing weekly..on the BIG SCREEN..amazing evening.
I think the "first act"..from the wonderful..wonderful  opening of McCrea riding down the street to when they ride out for Coarsgold...just might be Peckinpah's sweetest, most poetic...funny..& touching sequence of events, dialogue & images of his career.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: cigar joe on July 31, 2005, 07:38:20 PM
Gonna be on TCM letterboxed Wednesday night at 8PM Eastern Time.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: cigar joe on July 31, 2005, 07:39:50 PM
On TCM this Wednesday, letterboxed 8PM Eastern Standard Time.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: grandpa_chum on July 31, 2005, 08:56:43 PM
for my money the best american western not directed by sam peckinpah in the 70's


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: titoli on July 31, 2005, 09:42:34 PM
the best peckinpah ever.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: grandpa_chum on August 01, 2005, 01:45:02 AM
well i was refering to liking PG&Btk more, and i'm still up in the air on whether i like cable hogue more... but besides the point, it's a great f-ing western!


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: grandpa_chum on August 01, 2005, 01:59:46 PM
TAPE IT... like i did... may be a while till you can get your hands on a widescreen copy.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: jerkface on August 02, 2005, 09:30:50 AM
Ride The High Country must be released on dvd immediately. It's just not right.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Concorde on August 09, 2005, 06:35:00 AM
I have a widescreen copy duped off the old out of print laserdisc edition.

I bet that this TCM screening heralds an upcoming DVD release. I've heard that MGM Home Video is planning a "Sam Peckinpah Collection" series for 2006! (Of course, now that Sony owns them there may be a change/delay of some sort, but my fingers are crossed.)


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: cigar joe on August 10, 2005, 06:34:09 PM
I recorded it and watched it the last few days. I wouldn't consider it up there with the Wild Bunch but maybe a notch below it. A good second tier western, not overly melodramatic. How about the bazookas on the saloon madam she in a way sort of reminded me of a bigger Peggy from OUTIA.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: grandpa_chum on August 10, 2005, 10:05:09 PM
I wouldn't consider it up there with the Wild Bunch but maybe a notch below it. A good second tier western

Blasphemy!

the final shootout rivals that of a leone western... that 2 minutes alone is worth puting it into the 1st tier.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: titoli on August 12, 2005, 04:19:59 PM
Many years since I saw for the second time the movie. The fact that I liked it both times (and both as an adult) it means it is good. I remember the camel's race, Scott playing the bad, and very little else. But it is surely the Peckinpah I like best together with the Cross of Iron.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: cigar joe on August 13, 2005, 07:28:51 PM
Yea, the final gunfight is a good one I'll give it that.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: KERMIT on August 14, 2005, 03:47:56 PM
Peckinpah's mining community in this film is memorable for its spirited and dangerous atmosphere, with its one true gold mine being the whorehouse... The madam is a cheerful nightmare, and hidden in a corner is a drunken judge (Edgar Buchanan), with a bottle of whiskey, who comes alive only to remind us that people change... ;)


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on September 24, 2005, 09:40:43 AM
I was fortunate enough to see this film  in its big screen glory in a Church!!...of all places...thanks to a terrific weekly  film program run by a Western movie lover.

It sure has a history of shoddy treatment. When it was released, it was dumped onto the bottom half of double bills........& a proper DVD treatment is still awaited. (Consider the dreck that IS available).

It was filmed...as well as set in California....significantlly not Texas..not Oklahoma...not Kansas..etc........but the last stop..the end..as far as you can go..the "end of the West".......befitting one of the important themes in the film.

"Ride the High Country " needs to be restored & given the proper DVD treatment that it deserves.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Tim on September 24, 2005, 10:47:56 PM
Quote:"Ride the High Country " needs to be restored & given the proper DVD treatment that it deserves.

  Among several other Peckinpah movies I can think of.  Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, Ballad of Cable Hogue, and Cross of Iron.  I know I'm missing some, but I can't think of them now.

  Hopefully, these movies will be in that rumored Peckinpah boxed set in spring 2006.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Concorde on September 26, 2005, 06:06:47 AM
The excellent MAJOR DUNDEE disc that was just released last week was originally prepared as part of the rumored Peckinpah box set. It was a loan-out title because it belongs to Columbia, whereas the box set is an MGM project. The loan-out deal fell through, though, so Columbia proceeded with its own version, currently in stores.

If you listen carefully during the DUNDEE commentary track (recorded by the same group of Peckinpah biographers who recorded the commentary for THE OSTERMAN WEEKEND and ALFREDO GARCIA), you hear them refer to the other discs in the (non-existent) set, as if we already had the PAT GARRETT and CABLE HOGUE discs in our hot little hands.

As for RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY, there was an excellent letterboxed laserdisc version of it a few years ago, and one of the cable channels has been running it letterboxed lately. This usually betokens an imminent DVD version....


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Franks Harmonica on September 26, 2005, 09:55:03 AM
As a matter of fact if anyone out there has the HD Movie channels, they have been running a beautiful widescreen version of "Ride The High Country" as of late, and I had recorded the HD restored version of "Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid" off of the network last year.
I am attempting to transfer them over to dvd this week, so let me know if anyone is interested.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Concorde on September 27, 2005, 04:09:07 AM
... I had recorded the HD restored version of "Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid" off of the network last year.

Hey, I'm definitely interested in hearing how the transfer goes.  ;)

Tell me, does the restored GARRETT include the scene between Pat Garrett and his wife, which is missing from the "restored" VHS videotape (but present in the broadcast TV cuts)?


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: John Hodson on September 30, 2005, 03:43:08 AM
The excellent MAJOR DUNDEE disc that was just released last week was originally prepared as part of the rumored Peckinpah box set. It was a loan-out title because it belongs to Columbia, whereas the box set is an MGM project. The loan-out deal fell through, though, so Columbia proceeded with its own version, currently in stores.

If you listen carefully during the DUNDEE commentary track (recorded by the same group of Peckinpah biographers who recorded the commentary for THE OSTERMAN WEEKEND and ALFREDO GARCIA), you hear them refer to the other discs in the (non-existent) set, as if we already had the PAT GARRETT and CABLE HOGUE discs in our hot little hands.

As for RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY, there was an excellent letterboxed laserdisc version of it a few years ago, and one of the cable channels has been running it letterboxed lately. This usually betokens an imminent DVD version....

The box set is a Warners project (they own all MGM studio produced titles prior to 1985 IIRC); had it been MGM, and had they had the rights, there would have been no problems. Sony, which owns the Columbia back catalogue, recently bought Leo the Lion, lock, stock and roar.

It's no surprise the Peckinpah posse have been discussing the other titles - they have been busy recording extras for the Warners box...

Sony/MGM could still produce their own Peckinpah box; Junior Bonner, Bring Me The Head of Alfredo Garcia, Killer Elite, Major Dundee.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: John Hodson on October 10, 2005, 04:50:49 AM
Heads up chaps - The Sam Peckinpah Legendary Westerns Collection (http://www.thedvdforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=392865) is coming January '06  ;D


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Concorde on October 11, 2005, 04:52:54 AM
 ;D

Oooooooh, man, that is such GREAT news!!


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Cat Stevens on October 17, 2005, 02:40:38 PM
I saw that this was on TCM a short while back, but passed on watching it in anticipation of the DVD.  I haven't seen it in several years and want my first new viewing to be a pristine one. :)


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Concorde on October 18, 2005, 06:03:22 AM
 ;)

That's a good plan!


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on November 02, 2005, 10:57:17 AM
For those who don't want to wait for the January DVD release (yay!!)........tune to Turner Classic Movies at..or set your recorders for---> 11:45 PM...Thursday...Nov.3 (tomorrow).


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: JamesK on December 06, 2005, 10:09:57 AM
Dang, I wish I hadn't missed recording this.  My wife hasn't seen Ride the High Country, though I've spoken of it often.  It's one of those underappreciated classics, often overshadowed by Peckinpah's later, bloodier work.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Leone Admirer on December 06, 2005, 10:35:17 AM
I cant wait till that Peckinpah set is in my hands  8)


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Banjo on December 07, 2005, 02:25:06 AM
I don't tend to watch the oldie American westerns but after hearing Sam Peckinpah directed this one i felt compelled to watch this on UK TCM and it didn't disappoint!I also found out i was a bit of a Randolph Scott fan and now i've been trying to catch up on all 7 westerns he did with Bud Boeticher(please excuse the spelling) in the 1950's.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Leone Admirer on January 03, 2006, 06:49:57 AM
Heres a review for the excellent Sam Peckinpah's
The Legendary Westerns Collection
DVD boxset from Warners http://www.dvdtalk.com/dvdsavant/s1860peck.html

I've got my order in for it, I can't wait to get it!


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Tim on January 03, 2006, 11:51:06 PM
  Well, not that I needed another reason to be more excited about the Peckinpah box set, but I'm really excited about getting this next Tuesday.  I've seen three of the four and I've heard good things about Cable Hogue.

  And I finally get to see PGABTK in widescreen!  Thanks for the link Leone admirer!


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: cigar joe on January 04, 2006, 05:11:49 AM
Yea I'll probably pick up PGABTK and Cable Hogue seperately, have the Wild Bunch, don't care much for owning Major Dundee seen it too many times and seen Ride the High Country.  8)


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Tim on January 04, 2006, 11:02:09 AM
  cigar joe, I don't believe Major Dundee is included in the Peckinpah boxed set.  I think its just 4 films, Wild Bunch, Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, Cable Hogue, and Ride the High Country.  Or at least I thought so.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Leone Admirer on January 04, 2006, 11:24:56 AM
It doesn't include Major Dundee, the pleasure of which I had, seeing it in the cinema this autumn. I'm not sure if I would own it on DVD though.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: cigar joe on January 04, 2006, 04:30:45 PM
Yes, You are right my mistake.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on March 09, 2006, 07:16:07 PM
Enjoyed my 5th viewing of "Ride The High Country" tonight...1st time I've seen it on DVD...it just never gets old.
Chills up & down my spine at "I just want to enter my house justified"......& that great shot of Steve Judd as he says it.
One of the best finales ever...& such a great ending...tears well up and I murmur "Oh..man".
Edgar Buchanan is a treasure.
And, of course, Divine was great as big Kate. ;)  :P




Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Banjo on March 10, 2006, 05:41:54 AM
I love this film, both Randolph Scott and Joel McCrea are excellent and as a western this is a much more moving,better paced and entertaining western than any of the other three Peckinpah westerns i've seen- Major Dundee,Wild Bunch and Pat Garett & Billy the Kid.Why did Peckinpah have to try and emulate all the violent stuff from the spaghetti's in the latter two-it just comes over as tedios,gratuitous and lacking the style of the Italian directors and boy do both these movies severely drag-it makes DYS come over as positively cheerful!!!
The actors involved-Coburn,Kristopherson,Heston,Oates,Dylan are the only reason i tune into a Peckinpah movie post-Ride The High Country.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Tim on March 10, 2006, 11:35:08 AM
  I've said it before, but I'm a big Peckinpah fan so I may be biased, but here goes.  I don't think Peckinpah borrowed so much from the first round of spaghettis concerning violence.  Take Major Dundee for example.  The action sequences are basically The Wild Bunch without blood squibs.  Think of LQ Jones' death in the river battle with the French and if it had been done in a close-up instead of the master shot that was used.

  And I'm not denying the spaghettis were violent, just in a different way from Peckinpah westerns.  With the exception of some torture scenes in various spaghettis, the violence is pretty tame, I.E. someone gets shot and they fall down.  The Wild Bunch was one of the first movies to use the squibs to show what someone getting shot might actually look like. 

  I just finished a bio about Peckinpah.  TWB was the best and worst thing to happen to him.  Because it was so successful, audiences expected the same violence in all his future movies.  That's why Junior Bonner, B of Cable Hogue didn't do well.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Leone Admirer on March 10, 2006, 01:19:51 PM
Peckinpah worked and directed in TV Westerns, re-inventing the genre somewhat in the shows he worked on. I thinkt his obviously is one of the guiding lights in changing the film genre of the western for him.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: titoli on January 01, 2009, 06:33:28 PM
Watched the dvd. Reservations about Ron Starr. But also about McCrea: I don't like his rubicond face and his potbelly.  But then the finale makes me love him too. P.'s other westerns weren't as perfect as this one.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: dave jenkins on November 13, 2009, 07:57:36 AM
Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrZC5t4Ews0&feature=PlayList&p=4EEA6CFAA79DF9BC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=3


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Groggy on November 17, 2009, 11:16:58 AM
Watched the dvd. Reservations about Ron Starr. But also about McCrea: I don't like his rubicond face and his potbelly.  But then the finale makes me love him too. P.'s other westerns weren't as perfect as this one.

I agree with you on Starr, he's pretty obnoxious here.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Moorman on March 11, 2017, 05:45:59 PM
A masterpiece. I only wish it was longer.  Thats how good it is.  Everything was on point.  The cinematography. The script. The acting. The music. All very good. I rate this a 9 out of 10...


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: dave jenkins on March 20, 2017, 11:15:29 AM
Warner has announced the Blu!
Quote
RIDE THE HIGH COUNTRY (1962)
NEW 2017 1080p HD REMASTER
BD50
Color - 94 Minutes
ORIGINAL ASPECT RATIO - 2.35:1
DTS HD-Master Audio 2.0 MONO-English
English SDH

SPECIAL FEATURES:
Commentary by Peckinpah documentarians Nick Redman, Paul Seydor, Garner Simmons and David Weddle; Documentary: A Justified Life: Sam Peckinpah and the Hogue Country (SD)

Original Theatrical Trailer (HD)
I have yet to see a street date.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: Novecento on March 20, 2017, 08:25:03 PM
Wow this is turning into the year of Peckinpah! Awesome news. Someone at Warner is finally going to be able to enter their house justified.

D&D must be stoked!


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: mike siegel on March 22, 2017, 01:58:44 PM
Yes indeed. In January I thought I'm more or less through with that kind of work, for
8 months nothing happened. Now, as I write this, I'm working on 4 Sam Blu-ray in 3 countries... Hooray.


Title: Re: Ride the High Country (1962)
Post by: dave jenkins on April 05, 2017, 12:40:52 PM
Savant: https://trailersfromhell.com/ride-the-high-country/