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Title: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: El Mal on June 08, 2006, 01:34:24 PM
Following my recent trip to Almeria here`s a couple of "then and now" composites taken in Los Albaricoques.


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Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: The Firecracker on June 08, 2006, 01:38:21 PM
These are great thanks! :D
A shame so much has changed.


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: cigar joe on June 08, 2006, 09:23:59 PM
nice pics


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: Silenzio on July 18, 2006, 07:24:39 AM
Great pics, man, thank you!

Yay! My 25th post! Now I can have two stars . . . What a milestone.  ::)


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: CISCO on July 18, 2006, 10:10:07 AM
great photos !  :D


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: Tuco the ugly on July 18, 2006, 12:40:46 PM
nice photos man 8) 8)
shame what happened to the locations though... :'( :'(


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 18, 2006, 12:41:25 PM
nice photos man 8) 8)
shame what happened to the locations though... :'( :'(

Yeh, if only they hadn't modernized the place.


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: Tuco the ugly on July 18, 2006, 12:56:05 PM
Yeh, if only they hadn't modernized the place.

well,if that is modernized i'm st. peter... ;D

you look at that,it should be a monument and a touristic attraction...but instead they've ruined the whole place...
shame on them,shame


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 18, 2006, 02:01:21 PM
well,if that is modernized i'm st. peter... ;D


Nice to have you on the boards, St. Peter.   ;D


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: Tuco the ugly on July 18, 2006, 03:28:02 PM
Nice to have you on the boards, St. Peter.   ;D

hehehe,thanks...;D


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: CISCO on July 18, 2006, 04:04:14 PM
i have heard leone choose that area of spain as it resembled the u.s. west.  power lines that have been put up nex to hollowed ground . it 's such a pity.  :'(
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Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: Danny on August 01, 2006, 04:56:00 AM
Following my recent trip to Almeria here`s a couple of "then and now" composites taken in Los Albaricoques.

El Mal,
I've been to Los Albaricoques also last week, and found this arena as well, it was on the left just before entering the village. Is it the same or are there two arena's in this village?

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Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: dave jenkins on August 12, 2006, 05:20:52 PM
BYW, where is Agua Caliente actually supposed to be? After Indio and Monco have their discussion about whether to ride north or south, Indio decides to head east. If L'Oasis is somewhat near El Paso (as I take it to be), striking out eastward will land the boys in the middle of Texas. But Aqua Caliente seems to be in Mexico. Did Indio head east and then turn south? Or am I having a problem reading a map?


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: The Firecracker on August 12, 2006, 05:34:57 PM
BYW, where is Agua Caliente actually supposed to be? After Indio and Monco have their discussion about whether to ride north or south, Indio decides to head east. If L'Oasis is somewhat near El Paso (as I take it to be), striking out eastward will land the boys in the middle of Texas. But Aqua Caliente seems to be in Mexico. Did Indio head east and then turn south? Or am I having a problem reading a map?

There is several. mostly in Central America.

One in Mexico and one in the states west of El Paso.


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: cigar joe on August 12, 2006, 07:27:23 PM
Well if you go Southeast of El Paso you are pretty much following the border so it could be either side and actually I think the last time I watched FAFDM Indio I believe calls L'Oasis, Las Palmas.


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: dave jenkins on August 14, 2006, 07:52:03 AM
After watching the Agua Caliente portion of the film again I have this to report: once Mortimer cracks the safe, Indio makes a comment that all the men in New Mexico will now be after them. Why New Mexico? The bank job was in El Paso, Texas.  Wouldn't he be worried about Texans from El Paso chasing them, especially if they were still in Texas or near the Texas border? Presumably, then, Indio and the gang have returned to New Mexico, where the events of the earlier part of the movie took place.

BTW, I note that the current German dub has Indio saying that every man in Mexico will be after them. I can't quite make out whether Indio says Mexico or New Mexico in the Italian dub (titoli?), but he clearly says New Mexico in the English one. It makes a big difference to our understanding of things if the gang ends up in Mexico rather than New Mexico at the end, don't you think?


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: The Peacemaker on August 14, 2006, 10:04:39 AM
After watching the Agua Caliente portion of the film again I have this to report: once Mortimer cracks the safe, Indio makes a comment that all the men in New Mexico will now be after them. Why New Mexico? The bank job was in El Paso, Texas.  Wouldn't he be worried about Texans from El Paso chasing them, especially if they were still in Texas or near the Texas border? Presumably, then, Indio and the gang have returned to New Mexico, where the events of the earlier part of the movie took place.

BTW, I note that the current German dub has Indio saying that every man in Mexico will be after them. I can't quite make out whether Indio says Mexico or New Mexico in the Italian dub (titoli?), but he clearly says New Mexico in the English one. It makes a big difference to our understanding of things if the gang ends up in Mexico rather than New Mexico at the end, don't you think?

I think the Mexico dub on the German version is just a careless translation.

As for the New Mexico comment, that's a very good point. They robbed the bank in Texas...so the Texans should be after them.


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: cigar joe on August 14, 2006, 11:19:54 AM
But the alarm was also for the bank in Santa Cruiz NM too wasn't it?


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: dave jenkins on August 15, 2006, 08:50:01 AM
Well, it was for "Santa Cruz," but Santa Cruz NM is about 400 miles north of El Paso (if I've eyeballed the map correctly). No way could Monco go back and forth between El Paso and Santa Cruz as quickly as he does if we're talking about Santa Cruz, NM (Santa Cruz, TX is even further away). It's got to be a U.S. city, though.

The question remains: how does Indio go east from El Paso and end up in New Mexico (if that is in fact what happens)?


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: cigar joe on August 15, 2006, 05:57:51 PM
Well I think the closest possible town is Las Cruces (The Crosses) which would make more sence and would be doable fro the robbery, perhaps Santa Cruz was reffered to Santa Las Cruces its a stretch I know  ;D.

And I don't think they end up in New Mexico but Mexico, so they go Southeast along the Rio Grande, makes more sence.


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: dave jenkins on August 16, 2006, 08:48:33 AM
Ah, so instead of going due south and crossing the border, the "east" route (which in fact is southeast) allows them to stay in the U.S. for a while before heading into Mexico. Okay, that does make sense.

Why does Indio care about all the men from New Mexico chasing them? You don't think SL got confused about where El Paso is, do you?


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: titoli on August 16, 2006, 08:58:47 AM
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Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: titoli on August 16, 2006, 09:47:41 AM
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I can't quite make out whether Indio says Mexico or New Mexico in the Italian dub,

New Mexico.


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: cigar joe on August 16, 2006, 12:57:03 PM
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Why does Indio care about all the men from New Mexico chasing them? You don't think SL got confused about where El Paso is, do you?


Well the valley of the Rio Grande north of El Paso could be El Paso's subburbs so to speak, where most of the population that Banks in El Paso lives, its a stretch too.


Title: Re: Agua Caliente (Los Albaricoques) Then & Now
Post by: dave jenkins on August 17, 2006, 07:46:46 AM
Yeah, it's a stretch. Thanks for trying, though.