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Title: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: mortimer on May 25, 2004, 07:51:25 PM
Just caught this one on the western channel. Pretty good flick. Even has Mario Brega as the bad guy. I see the r1 dvd just came out.It is widescreen so i am getting it. Recommended


Title: Re:A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: spag fan on August 20, 2004, 09:46:04 AM
I liked it too. I've got the MGM DVD. The original ending has been cut though. :-\


Title: Re:A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: cigar joe on August 25, 2004, 04:48:17 PM
What was the original ending?


Title: Re:A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Cusser on August 25, 2004, 10:57:31 PM
I believe Cord was shot in the original ending (sniper?).


Title: Re:A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: cigar joe on August 26, 2004, 04:40:41 AM
Yea, that would definitely be a more spaghetti like ending.


Title: Re:A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: cigar joe on August 26, 2004, 04:56:38 PM
Ok saw this last night actually, not a bad movie but not an outstanding one either, good production values, also besides Mario Brega (who looks like his Nino chatacter also noticed Cuchillo from FAFDM too.

Alex Cord, Robert Ryan, Arthur Kennedy, round out an ok Spaghetti Western, at $9.99 you can't really go wrong, score is non intrusive and forgettable.

Now it would have been more effective Spag if it had its original ending.

Still haven't recieved my replacement Keoma and I needed a SW fix.  ;D


Title: Re:A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: leonefan on August 29, 2004, 11:26:08 PM
I just watched this film and it was pretty good.  The music was average but the one slow guitar theme was nice and added a dramatic angle to it.  BTW WOW, Nicoletta Machiavelli is so hot.  She ranks way up there with Claudia Cardinale in OUATITW.  I'm sure to pick this one up.


Title: Re:A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Two Kinds of ... on October 23, 2004, 03:01:15 PM
It's pretty good.  Could have used a better leading man.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: boardwalk_angel on April 01, 2005, 07:51:51 AM
I was very disappointed.
The 20 minutes cut (that's a lot) seems to have made a very choppy...rather unabsorbing film out of what apparently..with the INTENDED ironic & downbeat ending.. some nice bits..and a very good performance by Robert Ryan.....could have been at least a pretty good film. As it is now...it's  often confusing.....and discordant...and exceptionally ordinary..a harkback, visually & musically, to the Hollywood carbon copy Westerns that Italy used to churn out before Leone got rolling. It was nice to see Arthur Kennedy & Ryan shoot it out with the bandits at the climax...and Alex Cord had a few good moments of action...other than that...a very forgettable film.
I'd like to see the 118 minute full version.


Title: A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die
Post by: Tim on May 12, 2006, 11:47:30 AM
  Looking over at imdb it says that the original run time of A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die is almost 2 hours.  Now, the DVD version is about 98 minutes and I've got about the same on the version I taped off of TV a couple years ago.

  So other than the alternate ending, which I'd love to see, what else has been cut?  Has anyone seen a longer version?  It's not a great spaghetti western, but one I've always enjoyed so I'm curious as to what I'm not seeing.  Gracias.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die
Post by: boardwalk_angel on May 12, 2006, 11:57:06 AM
That's the only reported version out------>
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=6160

I wouldn't be surprised, though, if the uncut version is sitting around on film or tape in a basement somewhere...waiting to be discovered.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Christopher on June 24, 2006, 09:12:37 PM
I just watched this today. A decent movie, nothing really special, but now that I hear it was originally almost two hours, I'd like to see the uncut version.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on June 24, 2006, 11:42:19 PM
A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die was a really good spaghetti. It was not great or outstanding but it was a hell of a lot better than many spaghettis that were simply thrown to the audiences to satisfy their unquenchable thirst for the genre in the 60's.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: cigar joe on June 25, 2006, 07:32:50 AM
Its a bit too green looking though, I'm assuming it was shot in Italy instead of Spain,  but I colud be wrong.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on June 25, 2006, 03:14:40 PM
Its a bit too green looking though, I'm assuming it was shot in Italy instead of Spain,  but I colud be wrong.

It was definantly shot in Spain, I recognize a few mountain passes ( a symtom of the disease boardwalk angel and beebs discovered ).


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: JamesK on July 10, 2006, 06:31:44 AM
I just caught up with this one myself and quite enjoyed it, upbeat ending or no.  What surprised me the most, though, was Roger Ebert's review from 1968 (http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19680610/REVIEWS/806100301/1023), in which he says a number of unfair things about the film and the Euro-Western subgenre in general.

Bear in mind that I find Ebert an ass in most circumstances, but vitriol like this surprised even me:

All of these Italian Westerns are aimed at the lowest possible common denominator. If you do not have enough intelligence to understand them, you belong in an institution. They dismiss plots as being too complicated. Instead, they're built around a string of situations (like a color cartoon). Each situation shows the hero threatened with violence. In some of the situations his torturers succeed. In others, he outsmarts them and turns the tables. It is all done with a minimum of words (to save dubbing into English) and a maximum of blood.

You are likely to see between 50 and 75 people killed in the average Italian Western. Unlike Tom and Jerry, they do not spring to life again. You are also likely to see human heads carried in burlap bags, priests shot on an altar, various parts of the body ripped apart and a lot of spit.

Because the formula is so established, the writers of these films hardly need imagination. As in cartoons and pornographic novels, the characters are not full-dimensional people but puppets with a function. In Italian Westerns, the function is to kill and maim. Any additional plotting is usually plagiarized, without credit, from better Westerns.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Tim on July 10, 2006, 11:10:56 AM
  I've always liked/respected Ebert, hope he's doing better, but he contradicts himself about five years later with his love of Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, albeit not a spaghetti western but one could compare the style of violence.

 
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You are also likely to see human heads carried in burlap bags, priests shot on an altar, various parts of the body ripped apart and a lot of spit

  Two of three apply for BMTHOAG.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: JamesK on July 11, 2006, 08:51:04 AM
  I've always liked/respected Ebert, hope he's doing better, but he contradicts himself about five years later with his love of Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia, albeit not a spaghetti western but one could compare the style of violence.

I would definitely consider Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Garcia a western.

My issue with Ebert is that he's a snob who can't be bothered to let reality interfere with his conclusions.  He frequently gets even the most basic facts about film's plots and characters wrong, especially when he's critical of the film in question, which tells me that he barely pays attention during the screenings.  Probably too busy thinking up some semi-clever bon mot for his negative review.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 11, 2006, 12:48:11 PM
I just watched A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die the other night. It's definantly one of the best of the genre.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: titoli on July 11, 2006, 12:56:02 PM
Why "though", if it's one of the best ?

Anyway (we have gone into this before) whatever this professional critic called Ebert says is alright by me as long as he doesn't (more than 30 years later) get payed to feature in the extras of the very film he once tore to pieces.   


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 11, 2006, 03:51:06 PM
Why "though", if it's one of the best ?

I didn't write though.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: titoli on July 12, 2006, 01:41:01 AM
Yes, you didn't. The message in which it had been written has been removed by the author.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 12, 2006, 09:48:09 AM
Yes, you didn't. The message in which it had been written has been removed by the author.

Oh okay. Didn't bother to look back at the other posts.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Groggy on July 15, 2006, 06:16:43 AM
I personally have been waiting for Ebert to write a Great Movies review of OUATITW or OUATIA.  He seems to have recanted on his 2.5 star rating of the former, and his review the latter is very perceptive:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19840101/REVIEWS/401010365/1023

No holding my breath though. 

Ebert's review of "A Stranger In Town", however, is much more vicious than his review of this movie:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F19680327%2FREVIEWS%2F803270301%2F1023&AID1=%2F19680327%2FREVIEWS%2F803270301%2F1023&AID2=


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 15, 2006, 12:43:46 PM

Ebert's review of "A Stranger In Town", however, is much more vicious than his review of this movie:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=%2F19680327%2FREVIEWS%2F803270301%2F1023&AID1=%2F19680327%2FREVIEWS%2F803270301%2F1023&AID2=

I completely missed the point of writing such a horrible review. Was he that devastated by the violence that he had to walk out? How did he react to the Wild Bunch?   ;D


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Groggy on July 15, 2006, 04:40:05 PM
He loved it and defended it quite vehemently at its premiere. . .  :-\


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 15, 2006, 04:45:31 PM
He loved it and defended it quite vehemently at its premiere. . .  :-\

Really? I always disliked Ebert, because he's what I call a suck-up critic. In the 60's he prasied Peckinpah and gave little attention to Leone like the other critics but now that Leone is getting the attention he deserved Ebert is changing his mind.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Groggy on July 15, 2006, 04:47:40 PM
Critical opinion on Peckinpah was pretty split in the '60s. . . that being said, I like Ebert, though I don't agree with him quite a bit of the time.  I think his objections with the spaghetti violence was that he saw it as gratuitous and done for kicks (don't necessarily agree, that's just my take on it), whereas the violence in TWB was necessary to prove a point (Banjo's opinion notwithstanding).  ;)


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 15, 2006, 04:49:24 PM
Critical opinion on Peckinpah was pretty split in the '60s. . . that being said, I like Ebert, though I don't agree with him quite a bit of the time.  I think his objections with the spaghetti violence was that he saw it as gratuitous and done for kicks (don't necessarily agree, that's just my take on it), whereas the violence in TWB was necessary to prove a point (Banjo's opinion notwithstanding).  ;)

I can see that. One thing I like about him, though, is that even when he dislikes a movie he at least says one thing nice about it. He's not like the other critics who if they dislike a movie they try to slam it into the ground.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Groggy on July 15, 2006, 05:02:38 PM
I agree with that, unless the movie is absolutely terrible he generally tries to be concillatory towards it.  I agree with his practice of not attacking the actors unless they really deserve it, because actors, even if they give a bad performance, can hardly be faulted for bad writing, poor pacing, direction, etc.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Tim on July 21, 2006, 11:22:36 AM
  I was watching El Dorado with the Duke and Robert Mitchum this week and realized how similar parts of it is compared with A Minute to Pray, A Second to Die.  Now, obviously one's an American western and one's a spaghetti, but it seems Second to Die borrowed from this Duke western.

  In El Dorado, Cole Thornton is shot in the back and has attacks where the bullet remains near his spine.  In Second to Die, McCord has something similar, although for much of the movie he thinks its epilepsy.  Thought this was interesting, another case of westerns borrowing from westerns.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: JamesK on July 21, 2006, 11:59:56 AM
Quote from: Tim
In El Dorado, Cole Thornton is shot in the back and has attacks where the bullet remains near his spine.  In Second to Die, McCord has something similar, although for much of the movie he thinks its epilepsy.  Thought this was interesting, another case of westerns borrowing from westerns.

Yeah, I thought the misdirection was very well done, though if you read Ebert's review (referenced earlier in the thread), he behaves as though this is some kind of out-and-out plagiarism and therefore an indicator of how worthless Italo-Westerns are.

Clearly I disagree with that assessment, but there you are.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 21, 2006, 12:40:28 PM
I don't know why people need film critics. Most of them are pompous and arrogant anyway.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: JamesK on July 21, 2006, 02:26:04 PM
I don't know why people need film critics. Most of them are pompous and arrogant anyway.

I appreciate critics when they actually take the time to examine the film/book/whatever in question and give me a reasoned assessmet.  When it's basically nothing but this is stupid and I hate it, I'll agree they aren't much use.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: cigar joe on July 21, 2006, 04:46:07 PM
Yea they come in handy especially where you have little known films and foreign films that don't get a wide release.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Poggle on July 26, 2006, 01:01:32 PM
I enjoyed this movie a lot, one of my greatest SW watching experiences, right next to Ace High which I got at a Virgin megastore in Orlando a few weeks ago. I watched it again when my head was in tune and I thought it was one of the most genius plots of any SW(Ace High, that is) and would love to see the rest of the Cat Stevens movies. Anyway, back to A Minute to Pray' here. Since not too many people who have mentioned their opinions on the film here haven't written many reasons for their feelings I shall write something:

It was obvious there were cuts done to the film(Makes me think that those odd dissolves were where deleted scenes were) but I think that helped in keeping it tight. I like the fact that the story didn't have any obvious plot in the beginning and with each scene you found out something new and that, mixed with the tight editing of having scenes that are strictly relevant to moving the plot along, kept me interested from the beginning to the end which is something that rarely happens, like with Breathless. I loved the story, it was interesting how nobody was really honest and there were all these backstabbers and hypocrites. That gave a certain unpredictability to the story.
I thought the visual style of the film and the production design were very different from most Italian westerns, it showed how the director wasn't some pretentious Leone clone and had his own statements to make with the genre. Because of that it didn't have the usual SW feel but there was too much in it that was very Spaghetti-like that had I not known it was a SW I would definately think it was quite a different kind of American western following in the footsteps of the SW directors. In a way it's middle ground between the Italian and American western moods and style. The Spaghetti elite never cease to slip past me, the women are treated like ****** in a man's world, there are great infamous flashbacks, everybody is a greedy and dishonest pig, betrayals, beatings and torture, the law is corrupt, the hero isn't invincible and faultless, etc. if anything the SW feel is felt most through the story and plot devices.

I'm glad they made great use of both Spain AND Italy for the filming. I love Spain's deserts a lot but I also love when westerns get into greenery, like GBU, MNIN, Face to Face and Mannaja. It adds a feeling of diversity and epicness, but even more so because they filmed it in two different countries which makes it feel more epic than usual, like OUATITW, MNIN, and Ace High. It was interesting how the cuts between Spain and Italy didn't feel like going from one country to the other in a matter of seconds, they blurred the lines perfectly and at times I had to think "Is this Spain or Italy?".

I don't care what anyone else thinks but this is one of my new favorite non-Leone SW's.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 26, 2006, 06:12:43 PM
I watched it again when my head was in tune and I thought it was one of the most genius plots of any SW(Ace High, that is) and would love to see the rest of the Cat Stevens movies.

havent seen "God Forgives I dont" but "Boot Hill" is absolute trash. Stay away from it.

stick with Cat stevens music instead ;D


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 27, 2006, 11:22:16 AM
havent seen "God Forgives I dont" but "Boot Hill" is absolute trash. Stay away from it.

stick with Cat stevens music instead ;D

Boot Hill isn't THAT bad.   ::)


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on July 27, 2006, 07:10:26 PM
Boot Hill isn't THAT bad.   ::)


name one decent thing that happens after the 15 minute mark.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 28, 2006, 06:27:57 PM

name one decent thing that happens after the 15 minute mark.

I have to watch it again. The last time I saw it was in February.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: The Firecracker on March 15, 2008, 04:07:03 PM
Okay I bought a vhs copy on ebay for a dollar and finally sat down to watch this.

It was okay. With the exception of an early gundown by a campfire, the whole affair felt more like an American western influenced by the spaghetti craze than a full fledged Italian western.
Score is unremarkable.
Nice to see that Giraldi kept the tradition (started by Leone) of having Mario Brega die a gruesome death. The aftermath isn't shown but you could imagine.

Some action scenes I felt would have been better if they went an extra step further. For example during the church shoot out Cord should have entered the confessional and the gunman, posed as a priest, should have attempted to kill him by firing a shot to the other side of the box.
Instead the gunmen just pops out of the confessional and Cord shoots him dead.


above average but nothing special.

6/10


I would love to see the uncut version or at the very least the downer ending (is this available anywhere?).


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Ben Tyreen on March 16, 2008, 01:34:42 AM
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I would love to see the uncut version or at the very least the downer ending (is this available anywhere?).

 I've never gotten a straight answer if the downer ending is available anywhere, but I'd like to see that too.  It's somewhat of a downer ending as is, but w/ the one where Cord gets gunned down, we're talking The Great Silence territory.  In my rating, it'd definitely go up a point w/ the downer ending. O0


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: cigar joe on March 16, 2008, 04:47:26 AM
Its the same with James Garner's "A Man Called Sledge" I'd like to see the uncut version of that with Laura Antonelli's murder parts back in, and whatever else got trimmed/cut for the US release. Also in international cut of Bronson's "Chato's Land" that also has his wife's rape & murder cut out. Its hard to evaluate some of these with horrendous key scenes cut out.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Banjo on March 16, 2008, 05:48:48 AM
Haven't seen this in a long time but its pretty good as i remember it and the epilepsy theme gives it a unique slant.

I'm surprised to hear that my version maybe lacking 20 minutes in all but hopefully Franco Cleef or someone can get hold of an uncut Italian print and put on some English subs for the extra bits because this film deserves it.

7 out of 10(in its present cut state)  :) 


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: O'Cangaceiro on September 14, 2008, 05:17:35 PM
I watched this movie this morning and I found it just OK. I believe it is the last spaghetti western that Giraldi made, quite different and in a more serious tone than the two Mac Gregors movies and Sugar Colt. Nevertheless, it failed to either make me laugh, or to provide a good deal of excitement, or have a good musical score (Nicolai, Morricone, Bacalov, etc) which are the ingredients I normally look for in SWs. Perhaps the movie was too American style for my liking.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: stanton on November 11, 2008, 03:16:24 PM
I've never gotten a straight answer if the downer ending is available anywhere, but I'd like to see that too.  It's somewhat of a downer ending as is, but w/ the one where Cord gets gunned down, we're talking The Great Silence territory.  In my rating, it'd definitely go up a point w/ the downer ending. O0

The german version is even shorter with only 94 min, but it has the downbeat ending.


Cord is shot by the 2 bounty hunters, who had appeared earlier in the movie, just when he has left the town. One says that it was never so easy to earn 10.000 bucks, but then they find the amnesty paper and he begins to laugh like crazy.



In the 118 min version this could become a minor classic.



Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: stanton on January 04, 2009, 08:07:57 AM
Btw, this 118 min version, has anybody here ever seen it. I'm sure it exists.


Title: Re: A Minute to Pray, a Second to Die (1967)
Post by: Ben Tyreen on July 04, 2010, 12:09:37 AM
I found this at Youtube, it's a Spanish version but it features the original ending.  SPOILERS obviously, don't watch it if you don't want to know the ending of the movie.  It's not of the best quality, but you get the idea of what it was going for.  Too bad this couldn't have been on the MGM DVD. >:(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqjzx-dt5rQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mqjzx-dt5rQ)