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Films of Sergio Leone => Once Upon A Time In America => Topic started by: buff64 on June 27, 2006, 05:02:49 PM



Title: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: buff64 on June 27, 2006, 05:02:49 PM
   Very interesting post at OUATIA web board of IMDB.
 A couple days ago someone posted  that the producer
of OUATIA Mulchan anounced a future  release of 314
minute special edition of the movie.Unfortunetly no links of the source .Interesting!!.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The clint on July 07, 2006, 10:26:03 AM
I'd take what I hear on IMdB with a grain of salt, and besides, who want's a 314 minute version of this film? Isn't it long enough as it is?


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: noodles_leone on July 07, 2006, 01:56:00 PM
well, it's always interesting to see more work of sergio.... And it would may be be edited in 2 films..... who knows? (even if i really don't think so)


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: T.H. on July 07, 2006, 03:28:13 PM
interesting...


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: Tuco the ugly on July 08, 2006, 08:25:24 AM
sounds good to me 8)


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Firecracker on July 12, 2006, 12:22:38 PM
   Very interesting post at OUATIA web board of IMDB.
 A couple days ago someone posted  that the producer
of OUATIA Mulchan anounced a future  release of 314
minute special edition of the movie.Unfortunetly no links of the source .Interesting!!.

mmm...
anonymous Imdber posting news of this stature without any proof?

sounds like a hoax.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 12, 2006, 12:38:23 PM
mmm...
anonymous Imdber posting news of this stature without any proof?

sounds like a hoax.

Probably is. A few years ago someone on the OUATITW boards at imdb said that they were making a remake.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Firecracker on July 12, 2006, 12:50:13 PM
Probably is. A few years ago someone on the OUATITW boards at imdb said that they were making a remake.

With the final showdown being on top of Morton's train?

yeah I heard that one too.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 12, 2006, 01:03:58 PM
With the final showdown being on top of Morton's train?

yeah I heard that one too.

Yes! That's the one. That was bullsh*t wasn't it?


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Firecracker on July 12, 2006, 01:41:55 PM
Yes! That's the one. That was bullsh*t wasn't it?

oh most certainly.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: Leone Admirer on July 12, 2006, 08:33:05 PM
Would be intersting news (I doubt it muchly). Regarding a longer print then the Cannes version we have on DVD, the editor I worked for said he has seen an longer version of that cut via a Beta or low grade copy a few years back. Of course it could be that he is being confused the the Cannes version which at the time I believe wasn't then released on home video. He is sure however that it's a different version entirely. Would be great if this was true.  :o


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Firecracker on July 12, 2006, 11:06:13 PM
Bollocks I say!


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 13, 2006, 04:47:28 PM
Bollocks I say!

No, it's true. Arnon Milchan ( producer ) said it himself that the deleted scenes from the film exist and he knows where they are. The problem is that some, if not all, have no audio. He said that they should be released in the United States eventually.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: Groggy on July 14, 2006, 07:20:03 AM
Well here's the IMDB thread in question:

http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0087843/board/nest/44294654

It doesn't seem like a joke or deliberate hoax, but since it seems unsourced, I'd take it with a grain of salt.  Still, it's not completely outlandish, just unlikely.  I'd very much like the De Niro-Leone-Woods commentary.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 14, 2006, 10:23:28 AM
It seems like a hoax. Under commentaries it lists Sergio Leone.   ::)

But if this DVD comes out I'll be one of the first to own it.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Firecracker on July 14, 2006, 10:52:05 AM
It seems like a hoax. Under commentaries it lists Sergio Leone.   ::)



they could have gotten some old sources of him talking about the film. But of course it would have to be in subtitles wouldnt it?
But yeah a Leone commentary seems a bit far fetched.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: Groggy on July 14, 2006, 04:46:07 PM
It seems like a hoax. Under commentaries it lists Sergio Leone.   ::)

But if this DVD comes out I'll be one of the first to own it.

According to the post the commentaries were recorded by Leone shortly after the film's release in 1984.  I can believe that Leone had some things to say about it. . .

I know David Lean gave Steven Spielberg a personal commentary while watching the restored version of "Lawrence of Arabia" in 1989 (unfortunately for all of us film fans, no one was handy with a tape recorder  :'(), so I'm willing to believe there might be something out there.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 14, 2006, 04:48:06 PM
According to the post the commentaries were recorded by Leone shortly after the film's release in 1984.  I can believe that Leone had some things to say about it. . .

Oh that's an interview then, not a commentary. I thought he meant that they had Leone doing a commentary during the movie which is false because he speaks Italian and is, at the moment, dead.

Part of that 1984 interview is seen in a documentary on the OUATITW DVD where he is in his green screening room wearing a blue bathrobe.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: Groggy on July 14, 2006, 04:51:03 PM
Oh that's an interview then, not a commentary. I thought he meant that they had Leone doing a commentary during the movie which is false because he speaks Italian and is, at the moment, dead.

Yes, for the moment, but three years is a long time.   ;D

And I think Leone could've recorded a commentary track of sorts other than the interview, you never know.  Stranger things have happened. . .

I did hear somewhere that there was another OUATIA documentary which had interviews with James Woods, Elizabeth McGovern, Burt Young, William Forsythe, Scott Tiler, and a few others, besides the one on the OUATIA DVD - if that's around anywhere, I'd love to see it.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 14, 2006, 04:54:33 PM
Yes, for the moment, but three years is a long time.   ;D

And I think Leone could've recorded a commentary track of sorts other than the interview, you never know.  Stranger things have happened. . .

I did hear somewhere that there was another OUATIA documentary which had interviews with James Woods, Elizabeth McGovern, Burt Young, William Forsythe, Scott Tiler, and a few others, besides the one on the OUATIA DVD - if that's around anywhere, I'd love to see it.

My father, who thinks OUATIA is Leone's best film, told me that he saw an interview once with Robert De Niro on his films in general. The interviewer asked De Niro which director did you enjoy working with the most and De Niro responded Sergio Leone.

I don't know what interview that was but my dad is an honest guy so I believe him.


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: Groggy on July 14, 2006, 04:58:16 PM
I believe that.  I think De Niro's said his favorite performance of his was "The Deer Hunter", but he has said that he loved working with Sergio, the two had very similar working styles that complimented each other very well.  But I'd be interested to see what Bobby thought about Sergio.

Sergio was definitely an actor's director, I mean even Clem Caserta (the head Capuano) singled him out for praise on his website.  I've never heard of an actor - even Rod Steiger - speak out negatively about Leone.  Now, his writers of course, are a different story. . .


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 14, 2006, 05:03:46 PM
I've never heard of an actor - even Rod Steiger - speak out negatively about Leone. 

I know, that's really surprising. Leone and Steiger hated each other. Leone was into the traditional actors who you gave a command to and they said " yes sir. " Steiger was an Actor's Studio Actor and tried to take the reins himself  ( something Leone always detested, he always wanted his crew to know that he was the boss ).


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: Groggy on July 14, 2006, 05:09:47 PM
Steiger respected Leone and spoke highly of him as a director, and according to Frayling and Steiger himself Leone's account of their "feud" was quite embellished.  Steiger said something to the effect of, "I'd rather work for a talented son-of-a-bitch than a nice guy who had no talent."


Title: Re: 25th anniversary edition??
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 14, 2006, 05:12:20 PM
Steiger respected Leone and spoke highly of him as a director, and according to Frayling and Steiger himself Leone's account of their "feud" was quite embellished.  Steiger said something to the effect of, "I'd rather work for a talented son-of-a-bitch than a nice guy who had no talent."

I got that Something to do with Death book too. I think Leone's stories are just like his movies; epic and alittle above the truth.    ;)