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Films of Sergio Leone => A Fistful of Dollars => Topic started by: Beebs on July 12, 2006, 08:13:40 PM



Title: Spanish
Post by: Beebs on July 12, 2006, 08:13:40 PM
My spanish isn't very good, so maybe this will sound like a dumb question. Forgive me...

When Joe grabs the post to get off is mule that "don't like people laughin'", he says, "Hello" to Silvanito. Silvanito says something like "Saloos". Now maybe I'm hearing it wrong or butchering the Spanish language but what is he saying. Obviously some kind of greeting. But I only know Hola


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: Tim on July 12, 2006, 10:39:09 PM
  I haven't watched FOD in awhile, but could it be "Salud" as in "to your health."  I'm not much for spanish slang, but from what you wrote there Beebs it could be "salud."  Just a guess of course.

  I'll have to go back and check.


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: The Firecracker on July 12, 2006, 11:09:53 PM
  I haven't watched FOD in awhile, but could it be "Salud" as in "to your health."  I'm not much for spanish slang, but from what you wrote there Beebs it could be "salud."  Just a guess of course.

  I'll have to go back and check.


your right Tim. "saludos" does mean "to your health" and/or "greetings".


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 13, 2006, 04:44:09 PM
I don't know a bit of Spanish, and I'm taking it in school.   ;D

I don't mean to offend anyone but I don't see any point in learning a second language if you're not planning on going to another country where they speak a foreign language. Why should I have to learn another language when I speak my own fluently? No offense but if a person moves to another country they should learn the language, it's only fair.


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: Beebs on July 13, 2006, 07:34:20 PM
I don't know a bit of Spanish, and I'm taking it in school.   ;D

I don't mean to offend anyone but I don't see any point in learning a second language if you're not planning on going to another country where they speak a foreign language. Why should I have to learn another language when I speak my own fluently? No offense but if a person moves to another country they should learn the language, it's only fair.

I agree. Why add another language if you're still learning your own. English is a class all throughout schooling.


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: The Firecracker on July 13, 2006, 08:35:50 PM


I don't mean to offend anyone but I don't see any point in learning a second language if you're not planning on going to another country where they speak a foreign language. Why should I have to learn another language when I speak my own fluently? No offense but if a person moves to another country they should learn the language, it's only fair.

well you never know where life will take you. You just might find yourself in parts of the country where not many speak English (believe it).
If you find yourself in some parts of California or Florida the majority of citizens of these certain places only speak spanish (or another foreign language) and not a lick of English.

Of course these certain individuals shouldnt be lazy and start to learn english (they are living in the US after all).


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: cigar joe on July 13, 2006, 08:40:24 PM
and you may want to go to Almeria someday.....


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: The Firecracker on July 13, 2006, 08:41:51 PM
and you may want to go to Almeria someday.....

good example Joe.

You  see Peacemaker. It's somewhat important.


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 13, 2006, 10:20:33 PM
It's funny, I did want to see Almeria ( what Leone fan wouldn't? ) I guess there is some use for another language. But they should teach it to kids at an earlier age when their minds are capable of learning a complex language. Instead they wait until now when I have a great English vocabulary and am well past the stages of lingual development.


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: Groggy on July 14, 2006, 06:47:54 AM
I'm with you Peacemaker, I've been taking German for four years (finally dropped it my senior year) and I barely know ten words of German!  ;D If you're going to teach kids a foreign language, it should be earlier in life.

On the other hand, one of my school friends (or more than one I should say) has mastered the Spanish language pretty well, so maybe I'm just not a linguist.  :P


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: dave jenkins on July 14, 2006, 09:35:55 AM
Learning a language or languages prior to adolescence (the Critical Age Hypothesis) appears to be the best method, but what if you miss that window? Should you wait until you have a need for a language to learn it? No; generally speaking (there are, of course, exceptional language learners) the older you are the harder it becomes to learn a second language. 9 is much better than 18, but 18 beats 36 all to hell. The problem for young learners, of course, is knowing which language to learn, since it is impossible to predict future usefulness (I spent high school and college studying German, not knowing I would spend 16 years as an adult in Japan). However, it may be that having a second language makes acquiring a third easier at a later age anyway, so you shouldn't worry too much about picking the "right" one to study now. The best thing is to go with a language you have some interest in, since then you are more likely to keep at it.

Of course, there is also the problem of language retention, which falls under the "use it, or lose it" maxim....


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 14, 2006, 10:17:49 AM
Learning a language or languages prior to adolescence (the Critical Age Hypothesis) appears to be the best method, but what if you miss that window? Should you wait until you have a need for a language to learn it? No; generally speaking (there are, of course, exceptional language learners) the older you are the harder it becomes to learn a second language. 9 is much better than 18, but 18 beats 36 all to hell. The problem for young learners, of course, is knowing which language to learn, since it is impossible to predict future usefulness (I spent high school and college studying German, not knowing I would spend 16 years as an adult in Japan). However, it may be that having a second language makes acquiring a third easier at a later age anyway, so you shouldn't worry too much about picking the "right" one to study now. The best thing is to go with a language you have some interest in, since then you are more likely to keep at it.

Of course, there is also the problem of language retention, which falls under the "use it, or lose it" maxim....

Good summary, I agree.


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: BeauButabi on July 14, 2006, 07:46:19 PM
I took a course of Russian in community college a little over a year ago, and I now know the alphabet, some words, a few phrases and can count up to 199. I thought it was pretty fun learning it, but it got really hard really fast. I only got a C+. I've always planned on getting more books on the language to study, or some sort of CD-ROM thing to continue my leanring.


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: iceman on July 15, 2006, 02:00:34 AM
I'm with you Peacemaker, I've been taking German for four years (finally dropped it my senior year) and I barely know ten words of German!  ;D If you're going to teach kids a foreign language, it should be earlier in life.

On the other hand, one of my school friends (or more than one I should say) has mastered the Spanish language pretty well, so maybe I'm just not a linguist.  :P

Spanish must be really easy to learn, kids of 3 years old can speak it in Spain.........LOL  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ICE






Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 15, 2006, 12:19:51 PM
Spanish must be really easy to learn, kids of 3 years old can speak it in Spain.........LOL  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

ICE






Are you sayin' a 3 year old's smarter than me?  Them's fightin' words!!!     ;D   ;D   ;D


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: marmota-b on July 25, 2006, 03:22:12 AM
It's funny, I did want to see Almeria ( what Leone fan wouldn't? ) I guess there is some use for another language. But they should teach it to kids at an earlier age when their minds are capable of learning a complex language. Instead they wait until now when I have a great English vocabulary and am well past the stages of lingual development.

Hm, another of the things I should do if I ever visit Spain... Of course it is better to learn languages sooner. But there are some people who learn languages easily, my sister included. She started learning Lithuanian and Latvian about two years ago, and now she knows the languages well enough to be mistaken for native. Those languages can seem useless, but believe me, if you want to visit those countries (and there is something to see), they are very helpful. Older people there know only Russian and sometimes not even it.
I'm trying to learn Spanish myself, so, back to the original topic, it really is salud. And for sure Spanish is easier than my language. At least, they have no declension...


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: il brutto on July 25, 2006, 08:06:44 AM
Hi guys, going back to the original topic, what Silvanito exactly says is "saludos".
I'm italian and I studied spanish, been to Spain several times (but not in Almeria yet...) and I speak a quite good spanish. Of course it's easier for an italian, both  languages come from latin.
Anyway I still don't speak spanish as well as a three years old spanish kid.
Adios


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: marmota-b on July 25, 2006, 09:46:18 AM
Hi guys, going back to the original topic, what Silvanito exactly says is "saludos".

All right, thanks. I'm only trying to learn Spanish and I'm stuck in the third lesson. Salud is in the first, so I could act as the smart one.  ;)  Feel free to correct me, whenever I make a mistake.


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 25, 2006, 04:46:15 PM
All right, thanks. I'm only trying to learn Spanish and I'm stuck in the third lesson. Salud is in the first, so I could act as the smart one.  ;)  Feel free to correct me, whenever I make a mistake.

What are you learning Spanish for? Is it on your own free will or is it to visit Spain or along those lines?


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: marmota-b on July 26, 2006, 12:14:02 AM
I have found good Spanish friend through the internet. I would like to go to Spain because of that (and because my old dream is to visit Pyrenees - and now also Almeria.  ;))


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: il brutto on July 26, 2006, 01:50:41 AM
All right, thanks. I'm only trying to learn Spanish and I'm stuck in the third lesson. Salud is in the first, so I could act as the smart one.  ;)  Feel free to correct me, whenever I make a mistake.

In any case "saludos" is not so used in Spain, I don't remember I ever heard somebody saying it. The most common greetings when you meet somebody are "hola" (informal) and "buenos dias" (more formal). No idea of what they say in Mexico. Anyway, if we happen one day to meet in Almeria, I will tell you Saludos


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: marmota-b on July 26, 2006, 04:24:02 AM
Anyway, if we happen one day to meet in Almeria, I will tell you Saludos

If you recognize me.  ;)


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: marmota-b on July 26, 2006, 04:53:39 AM
Unfortunatelly that friend lives in Madrid and Almeria is still quite far away from it.   :(


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: marmota-b on July 26, 2006, 04:55:08 AM
Oh no. That post doesn't look how I wanted it to look... It will take me long time to get used to all those smileys and so.

Aha, modifying. I also didn't notice it before. So I changed it.


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: The Peacemaker on July 26, 2006, 08:10:56 AM
Oh no. That post doesn't look how I wanted it to look... It will take me long time to get used to all those smileys and so.

Aha, modifying. I also didn't notice it before. So I changed it.

It's okay, this place takes a bit of time to get use to. I didn't know how to reply with a quote until a few months ago.   ;D    I'm not kidding.   :-[


Title: Re: Spanish
Post by: marmota-b on July 26, 2006, 08:28:43 AM
I didn't know how to reply with a quote until a few months ago.

And I at first didn't know how to reply without quoting.  ;D