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Films of Sergio Leone => Other Films => Topic started by: Silenzio on July 28, 2006, 06:19:36 PM
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Is it any good? I'm thinking of getting it on netflix. I'll probably get it regardless of what you say. But I'd just like to know your opinions on it.
EDIT: I added a poll to see which ones you guys like the most. I can see Gunsmoke or Bonanza any time I want because they're always on TVland. Of the two that I've seen, I prefer Gunsmoke. But I won't vote until I've seen Rawhide.
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Is it any good? I'm thinking of getting it on netflix. I'll probably get it regardless of what you say. But I'd just like to know your opinions on it.
It's not good. It's a cheap all-American thing, barely any violence. And Clint is in it but no anti-hero tough guy role!
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It's not good. It's a cheap all-American thing, barely any violence. And Clint is in it but no anti-hero tough guy role!
I used to watch this all the time when I was a kid, used to lay in front of the TV and pretend I was camping out (there were a lot of camping scenes in the show) with the drovers. Eric Flemming played Gil Favor the Trail Boss, Clint was Rowdy Yates, the ramrod, and Paul Brinnegar was Whisbone the cook, I enjoyed it had a lot of trail shots of cattle, not a whole lot of shootouts more drama.
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I knew that there was hardly any violence. I heard about somewhere how it was a departure from other western series because it was more character-driven than violence-driven.
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CJ, what did you think when you first saw Eastwood in a Leone film?
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Well let me go into more detail, it was like a buddy flick but there were a lot of buddies. Besides Gil, Rowdy, and Whisbone in the core crew you had John Ireland as Jed Colby, Mushy Mushgrove (Wishbone's not to bright helper), Jesus (Hey-soos) the vaquero, Pete Nolan and Jim Quince both good drovers, and the rest of the crew. There was a lot of good times and funny incidents provided by Mushy & Wishbone. You got to know everybody almost like family.
It wasn't town bound so you had a lot of stories set about cattle driving and what hardships and problems they encountered on the trail (water, weather, indians, etc.) all with good action sequences of cattle driving, stampedes, etc., etc., occasionally they met various travelers, traders, peddlers, craftsmen, on the plains and they would interact or travel with the chuckwagon and provide the story, sometimes they would have to hit a nearby town for supplies and have encounters good and bad, so it was a very fluid story every week. And they always had new hands taking the place of the some of the lesser hands as they either quit, got killed off, or retired.
CJ, what did you think when you first saw Eastwood in a Leone film?
Well you know that is how good Leone was at casting against type, cause I actually did not recognize Eastwood in his "Mysterious Stranger" role, on Rawhide he played an easy going lightweight while Eric Flemming played the tough as nails Trail Boss, Joe, Manco, Blondie, are tough hombres.
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I actually did not recognize Eastwood in his "Mysterious Stranger" role
You mean you saw Blondie (I presume GBU was your first Leone) and didn't realize it was the same actor you knew as playing Rowdy Yates? How long did it take you to realize that?
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Actually I saw For A Few Dollars More first, and I didn't figuer it out until I read about who Eastwood was, I never recognized him in the film when I saw it.
If you ever see Rawhide you'll undestand, he plays a completely different character.
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Oh, I surely will if I get the chance. Actually it's been years I tried to find some "Rawhide" show. Now that is out on dvd it will be easy.
Can I ask you your first reactions to FFDM?
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My cousin & I used to go see films and watch a lot of TV westerns the coolest western we saw up to seeing the first SW was "Nevada Smith" with Steve McQueen. One summer weekend in 1967 I was checking the films in the cinema section of a local paper and saw this add for FAFDM and the picture of the poncho wearing cigar smoking bad ass looked cool, who the hell paid attention to names (I didn't even have a clue who Clint was ) So we went to see it and were blown away by the style the coolness and the music.
I think that when I statred to read about the film I then read that it was Eastwood.
In Rawhide he smiled a lot in his easy going second banana role.
We went orve first viewing of a Leone Film quite awhile ago , I did a search but this thread is similar, but its not the right one.
cj
http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=36.0
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Maybe this:
http://www.fistful-of-leone.com/forums/index.php?topic=2127.0
But you're not there to be found. I remember that you posted something about you and your cousin going to see GBU, that's why I thought that was your first Leone.
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no I saw that thread, it was a long time ago maybe back as far as 2002.
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I caught a couple episodes of Rawhide on the Hallmark channel when they were doing a 4th of July marathon. Hadn't ever seen it before, but from what I saw I really liked it. I'm planning on getting the DVD soon. Havent seen much of Gunsmoke or Bonanza, I sometimes catch a few minutes of them on TVLand but never feel compelled to keep watching, while during the Rawhide marathon, I came in mid-episode and was intrigued enough by just a few seconds to finish the episode.
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"The Rifleman" was a damn good show.
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"The Rifleman" was a damn good show.
I'll second that, Firecracker. It's funny, I'm watching Wanted: Dead or Alive Season 1, and they're using the same set from The Rifleman, North Fork, as countless different western towns. All they do is switch the hotel sign or the sheriff's office so that we thinks it's a new town every episode.
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Heading out of town in a couple of days. Won't be hearing from me for a while.
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Rawhide out of the choices, though "Have Gun Will Travel" was also very good.
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Bonanza? BONANZA???
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Rawhide out of the choices, though "Have Gun Will Travel" was also very good.
what of Rifleman Joe? what did you think of it?
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what of Rifleman Joe? what did you think of it?
I once saw a hilarious Jay Leno sketch right after Cheyney shot his friend where they replaced the face of Chuck Connors in the opening shot of The Rifleman with Dick Cheyney. ;D
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I once saw a hilarious Jay Leno sketch right after Cheyney shot his friend where they replaced the face of Chuck Connors in the opening shot of The Rifleman with Dick Cheyney. ;D
took a quick peek on youtube to see if I could find it but no luck :(
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The Rifelman was good but Lucas McCaine's character was a bit gratting to me, sort of like the boy in Lassie.
Lucas was the kid right?
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Lucas was the kid right?
Other way around. Connors was Lucas, and Johnny Crawford was Mark, his son. And I agree with you, cigar.
In a Peckinpah biography I read, Bloody Sam wanted to develop the relationship between father and son over the course of the show, but the producers wanted little development. That way, there could be episodes with Mark being put in some dangerous situation and Lucas would have to save him. Just one of the reasons Peckinpah left the show.
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Lucas was the kid right?
oh Joe I really couldnt say. I havent seen that show since I was a wee one. I just remember liking it very much. Just like the Zorro show that came on around the same time.